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Reminder that the chinks haven't won a single conflict in over 150 years.

It's far more Mexican than nigger, chink.

Who did they rip it off from?
Fucking chinks always copy whatever it is they can't steal from others, even fucking idol groups.

I thought that was already in place and in use?

(checked my man)
They are building their third in Shanghi that displaces 80,000 tons, and it will be ready for sea trials in a couple months. I somehow suspect a ship named Type 001A aircraft carrier won't be the last of them deep forward thinker.

user, let's not exargerate here, you're talking about a nation which fucked up their neighbors so hard (literally) they're still whining about it to this day, they also won battles agains ruskies back in Czarist russia. So I wouldn't call japs retard when it comes to warfare, they clearly knew their shit back then. Although today they're quite harmless after being BTFO by americans.

If the US had such a system, where do you think niggers would then rank in society?

chinese shills are the worst, russians are okay and jews are good as well but chinese are such shit

Yea I'm afraid of something the Gooks engineer. Their Navy is more of a shit show than the Irish.

He was talking about the Japanese, not chinks.
Maybe read the whole thing before commenting.

Well, they wouldn't be able to buy houses, land decent jobs, get loans, etc.
So not really all that different from now, I suppose.

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The future will be disposable and cheap swarms of drones that will be pre-programmed to carry dumb payloads for indiscriminate carpet bombing. Precision strike weapons that rely on datalinks will become useless after quantum computing becomes a thing. Also, railguns have the potential to chuck slugs of metal at distances comparable to that of a missile for much cheaper while also being much harder to intercept.

Is it just me or does that thing look small as fuck compared to our carriers?

ITTY BITTY BULLSHIT BOAT

you know, our antiship missiles can network together now.
have fun defeating 20 harpoons working together

why not call those bullshit sandbar islands carriers too.
"China has 17 carriers displacing missions of tons. They are unsinkable"
Silly China, come see.

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This is a carrier. it can carry more than paper airplanes.
notice the diffence in size using the one jet on the Liang's deck and the many jets on the deck of the Nimitz.

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I sense lots of FUD there. Care to elaborate on the 'datalinks will become useless after quantum computing becomes a thing' part?
They'll just move to post-quantum authentication encryption crypto primitives.

yeah ok, everyone is so fucking happy here, so satisfied, so living the life they love living. The future looks so bright doesn't it.

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yeah we have the best zogbot toys.

user, Japs started every major war since the industrial era through surprise attacks.
They bogged down and overstretched in China like retards. They lost 4 carriers in Midway which probably one of the biggest fuckups in history of warfare.
They have the flexibility of a rock.

kek
Pray for WW3 so you can see shlomo get btfo'd across the world along with every nation who has power, lose power for the next thousand years.

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Isn't chinese steel like shit tier quality and basically paper anyway?

Once exponentially more powerful computers of any kind start breaking the adversary encryption regularly the more economical strategic decision will be to go back to analog. So long as the weapons i'm shitting out consume more value in enemy defensive measures then I am winning. This is why the anti-nuclear missile systems never de-escalated the cold war. The systems were so much more expensive than making more bombs.

Don't post in serious threads anymore, user. You have nothing to add and in fact, you are only detracting from the discussion.

The russians already did this.

Cant fucking wait to hear when this will be serviced sooner than any of our other ships. Most chiner steel sucks in absolute comparison with strong american alternative. Look wt all the shortcuts Chiner slant eyed fucks make when they build.

The bug people are advancing at a rapid pace.

I think for Chinks it's a matter of prestige rather than military necessity. They want to be seen as the next global superpower, or at the very least a major player in Southeast Asia.

Fan Bingbing is well put together anons

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Hencho en China, blub blub blub…

You sound like one of these buttblasted gook shills

Doesn't change the fact Air Craft carriers are largely useless in modern warfare. This isn't the 1940's and they were shit back then as well. Submarines have largely destroyed the entire purpose of surface water fleets. The only reason they continue is because there hasn't been any nations Navy on equal footing with one who has a surface fleet to show how retarded they are.

If any nation worth a shit with offensive capabilities that isn't third world went to war enjoy losing thousands of people within the first minute of a naval conflict.

China has 1.4 billion people now, it may have 2 billion very soon. Now if all the young anons here were buying, building, and moving into new homes with their wives and 3 kids I'd be a little more reassured however every city in the US has a housing crisis, and everywhere you go shitskins are running amok. I wish we in the US could point to a dozen new metropolitan areas/cities/economic development areas free of subhumans and the banker Jews that control this miserable life.

You don't understand the point of aircraft carriers. It's force projection. The Chinese want one because they can better control the south china sea.

Regarding how little you actually know about aircraft carriers. That's a meme. Of course they will be targetted first, but outside of nuking them (and that will be tried) nothing will work. Subs won't be able to find or catch them. Surface ships will be killed before they get close and unless the Carrier group is stupid (they aren't) they won't ever be close enough to shore to be at risk.

You have no idea how effective modern anti-missile defenses actually are.

Fear over a large Chinese navy is pretty stupid and evidence of a general lack of knowledge regarding how the PLA-N works and, as others have pointed out, how modern naval warfare works.

First and foremost the PLA-N and PLA-AF are both woefully inexperienced. The Chinese military personnel are like ants. All you need to do is take out the bridge of a ship and the whole ship will fail because the ants don't know what to do.

If the PRC wants any chance at winning a major war, they need to have a few small ones first. Unfortunately for them, with the way the international community is organized now, it's basically too late for that.

are there any navyfags who can tell us how good this thing actually is?

Carriers are useful for putting out craft that can detect submarines, but for that you certainly don't need something as large and expensive as a fleet carrier. Most of the carrier force in the war were small escort carriers.

It's not about how big your boat is, it's about how competent your crew is
In the case of the ChiComs, they are incompetent to the point where, many times, the ship captain doesn't even know what to do and has to radio back to his superiors.

They are also floating Hospitals, can easily provide aid to an area at the drop of a hat.

That's the first problem: the Navy and Air Force seem to be subsidiaries of the Army.

They are.
The way that the PRC is organized, the Army (PLA) actually belongs to the party (CCP) not to the state. And the Navy (PLA-N) and Air Force (PLA-AF) ARE both subsidiaries of the Army.

fake news. it has a ramp

Just imagine for a second what would happen if the Republicans (In the United States) got a bunch of militias to come together to form a new "Army"
Then advance the clock about 50 years
That's what the CCP PLA is

Stop drinking currynigger and gook "redpill" coolaid if you are not of them. You entire description is actually factually completely wrong from the start to end and just parotting retarded memes and antique perceptions of China.

where does he mention gooks retard

I think they're confusing the PLA with the PLAGF.

Implying niggers wouldn't automatically start out with a high baseline score (gotta right those historic wrongs goy).

How much stolen technology did they buy from Israel to build it?

read the post or learn some history retard

Makes no sense either way.

There is no world war scenario. The entirety of the West is populated by black and brown people who have absolutely no interest in whatever "conflict" you imagine exists.

I'm talking about the present user, the scenario you presented is the future. We're still not there…yet

No, we pretty much are.

Even though some people love to spout the 'le isramutt forced meme' or europe is full of non europeans, it's not true. Western countries are still white countries, however the number of non whites are rising to a point where they might be a majority in a few decades, we're witnessing the beginning of that demographic change for the worse, it still have much ground to get even worse.

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When it visits Los Angeles at the Port of Los Angeles - Long Beach think of the millions of Chinese-American bug people that will come to see it.

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It is true. It is true in the United States, Canada, France, Sweden, now Germany. The UK and Australia will be in that company soon. Italy to a lesser extent. That right there is basically "the West", the real meat of it. Little countries like the Netherlands and Belgium sure as shit aren't any better [Belgium might be worse]. So that leaves Norway? Iceland? Time to get realistic. It's comical, really. What are you even planning to fight China over? Faggot rights? Ford not making their numbers? Some kike chip company getting ripped off? There isn't any scenario where anything makes sense.

The truth isn't a blackpill. It's hard to even understand why anyone who is genuinely White would even take up the mantle of assuming the desired conflicts of the "West".

The US Air Force also used to be a subsidiary of the Army, and that was changed after World War 2. It wasn't uncommon historically.

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You're never going to be white, kike.

I'm not positive, but I'm 90% sure that you're the jew here. I don't know what other conclusion can be drawn from reacting so viscerally to the idea that the jewish Western governments don't have a future.

I am at times appalled and impressed with the Chinese. Take for instance the his little boy on the right. He leans to poop without a toilet from infancy and develops a sense of balance and strong legs at the same time. Balance is the key to living a happy stress-free life.

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The big manufacturers sell off their bad runs for a song to retailers who then pass it off as the real deal to smaller customers who can't afford to deal with the manufacturers directly. The manufacturers more-or-less meet international standards but unless you're building skyscrapers or trucks you're not making orders big enough for them to bother with you - you either have to have a good contact or take your chances.

Pretty much.
If you're a customer able to take them to court and win (meaning a chinese customer) or a customer making a big enough order that pursuing the matter despite being non-chinese is sensible, then they'll typically provide exactly what you ask for.

Otherwise you get shit.
Small orders? Get shit. They won't bitch enough for it to matter and pursuing it in court is too expensive for what it is.
Foreigners? Get shit unless its a massive order.

My evolutionary instinct is to revile worms, but then I'm not a bug person/asian. I'll stick to evolutionary advice.

those creatures are everywhere, you can take a plane to Timbuktu right now and it's guaranteed that you'll share it with a whole bunch of them, they're always in large groups too.

Generally speaking Chinks buy package holidays run by Chinese firms who will be chaperoning and directing said group. Providing everything from accomodation to transport to food and translator services while in the country they're visiting.

As their language group is so rarely spoken outside of China itself, it's the most sensible option for the Chinese tourist.

With government contracts they send random inspections, if something was missed by a previous inspector that inspector gets punished. The chinese have figured out how to get shit done in china a long time ago.

Ah yes, that explains why they always have some kind of leader wearing something to identify him and they're unable to speak anything but chinese even if their lives depended on it.
Any user who have ever went to a tourist trap or airport will know what I mean since they're everywhere.

Who did they rip it off from?
It's an old ruski tub.

Kek, you mean the ones that have a few seconds to react to a bunch of hypersonic, networked, sea skimming ASMs with decoys and ECM? Good luck with that.
Even multiple milfags have said the phlanax cannons are basically an 'oh shit' alert as they do not trust them to stop anything.

Good fucking point fellow 80s child
We should not rest while we have a slight lead in this constantly changing world

When you get down to it a lot of Chinks have difficulties with non-asian languages. Primarily because they're so different in many ways.

Can't even use a written dictionary to try and get by because the written methodology of Chinese is essentially pictograms for whole words. So most chinks when presented with an alphabet are just stunned, its almost entirely an alien concept to many of them.

Trying to learn enough to get by even on a basic level is not worth the effort.
So it's easier to just buy the package deal that comes with the translators.

He's right though, faggot
The under-25 groups in nearly every western country are ALREADY MAJORITY BROWN
It's a really hard pill to swallow but literally nothing short of genocide can bring us back from the brink

REMINDER THAT YOU HAVE NOT WON A WAR IN 400 YEARS

REMINDER THAT YOUR NAVY IS COMMISSIONING NEW SHIP CLASSES THAT WESTERN NAVIES HAVE CONSIDERED OBSOLETE FOR DECADES

For those of you still terrified of Big Bad China coming for the US, even if they make everything in their military plan, they still won’t commission more warship tonnage than the USN from now to 2025.
US warships to be commissioned by 2025:
3x Ford class, 300,000t
3x America class, 134,913t
3x Zumwalt class, 45,000t
14x Burke class, 137,200t
10x Freedom and 10x Independence class, 66,040t
16x Virginia class, 126,400t
3x San Antonio class, 75,900t
And those are just the commissioned major combatants, not including the MSC or support hulls. A total of 885,453 tons of commissioned warship by 2025, all of which are either currently under construction or currently on order. For reference, this is roughly 3/4 of the entire current PLAN commissioned displacement.
PLAN new build ships by 2025:
1x Type 001A, 67,500t
1x Type 002, (no confirmed tonnage; ~80,000
12x 055, ~156,000t
23x 052D, 172,500t
1x 054A, 4,053t
24x 054B, 97,272t
2x 071, 50,000t
4x 072, 160,000t
For a grand total of about 787,325t, and that’s only if they are wildly successful and there are no issues with building the first in class ships of at least 5 brand new first-build designs in the next 9 years. Still almost 100,000t less than the rate at which the USN has been building and commissioning warships for years now. The USN has more supercarrier tonnage (1.1 million tons) commissioned and operational than the tonnage of the entire PLAN. As of May 2015:
Total commissioned tonnage for the USN: over 3,000,000 tons.
Total commissioned tonnage for the PLAN: 992,363 tons.

Carriers number/tonnage
USN: 10x, 1.1 million tons, Nimitz class
PLAN: 1x 67,500 tons, Liaoning

LPA/LHD/LSD numbers/tonnage
USN: 9x, 369,693 tons, 1 America and 8 Wasps
PLAN: 0x, 0 tons, nada

LPD/LSD numbers/tonnage
USN: 22x, 448,214 tons, 8 Whidbey Island, 4 Harpers Ferry, 1 Austin, 9 San Antonio
PLAN: 3x, 60,000 tons, Type 071 (Yuzhao)

LST number/tonnage
USN: 0x, 0 tons, nada
PLAN: 60x, 209,360 tons, various types from 800-7,000 tons

Since the decommissioning of the last Newport-class in 2002, the USN has not used LSTs. It still operates 32 LCUs (381t apiece) as well as the 35 US Army operated LCUs (1,102t apiece), but because the USN has so many LHAs, LHDs, LPDs, and LSDs, LSTs are no longer needed to ferry LCUs to the combat area. Notice that this class of vessel, which the USN considers obsolete in modern amphibious warfare, comprises over 20% of the PLAN fleet. So, no. Even if they’re wildly successful (spoiler: they’re commies, so they won’t be), the Chinese are not even going to be gaining ground with the 2025 plan.

I wouldn't be afraid of China, because they're one of the LEAST experienced countries on Earth when it comes to modern warfare. When was the last international incident involving China that wasn't a skirmish against some other tiny third world commie nation?

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Not really an issue for China.
As their primary military agenda is defending against an invasion of mainland China by the USA.
Everything else is just fucking about.

As it stands the Chinese can fairly easily defend against a US invasion of mainland China.

A nation without a culture is like a man without a master plan.
If the motherland was really that great why are chinks still trying to colonize America/Canada/Africa/Australasia?

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Aircraft carriers are obsolete. They're all going to the bottom of the see as radioactive hulks within the first week of a real war. Total waste of money unless you find some lucrative reason for bombing barefoot niggers living in mud huts somewhere…

No, it suggests an upcoming rescue operation.

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Why the hell have you quoted me ?
are you so stupid you couldn't see that I was talking about Japan's military power and not China's ?
Jeez

They also had a skirmish with their larger commie neighbors. Apparently ruskies were scared of a full scale chinese invasion of their vast borders and backed off.

It's like the third person by now.

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tbh it'll probably be used against Canada first during the founding of China's new colony in British Columbia.

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I worked for a company that basically taught many capable Chinese manufactures primitive yet complecated procedures and ISO standards to meet US supplier standards for company’s such as Mack/Volvo and John Deere. Boom pins, suspension components, castings, lever pins, etc. all were being made in China, shipped in containers weekly to then be processed, inspected and delivered just in time. I was an inspector there and was brought on in hopes to bring me up to speed and have me go over to China to help with the production and processing of these orders and help mitigate any manufacturing errors. I quit after 6 months because I couldn’t bring myself to work for a company that was helping the destruction of our nation and workforce. This was globalism at work and I couldn’t be a part of it. I’m glad I quit and never looked back. Chinese steel is definitely capable if John Deere and Mack trucks are using it, even if they’ve bent their supplier standards to allow for it. They had to keep lot/heat samples for MPI, TYE and metallurgical property testing, heat treat testing, etc. All of this knowledge being handed to them freely for cheap labor and goods. It was truly eye opening to see the wealth of knowledge being shared to these fucks. Don’t for any reason underestimate they’re ability to produce goods in China that can compete with American steel or goods. The only difference being that the Chinese have either stolen the IP or have someone helping them along the way.

I even re-read it to see if whatever I said could be misinterpreted, but no, it's pretty clear I was adressing Japan and not China.
Either those idiots quoting me are not english speakers or they're completely retard and unable to interpret a sentence.

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Yea except they have millions upon millions of able bodied men for warfare. The sheer numbers they have vs any other nation should be the scariest part of about facing China.

Dubs confirms. I understood it just fine that you were talking about Japan. The last sentence should be a clear give away.

How the fuck do these things balance in rough seas?

Oh look! The Chinese have built themselves a new version of an obsolete ship design! Neato! I guess it is much more propaganda worthy than ghost cities and the whatnot

Afraid not user. The richer parts that westerners have access to perhaps, but they're the typical bug people everywhere else. Pic related.

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commander tells all the chinks to run from one side of the boat to the other

And if it ever saw combat its sole tactic would consist of charging full-steam ahead in a straight line towards the enemy while launching its aircraft at full throttle also in a straight line towards the enemy, and they'd all be obliterated in under a minute.

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Jesus, what's with this thread and all the people with a lack of reading comprehension?
He's talking about about how the group in video I posted is trying so hard to ape the Korean pop style and utterly failing at it with their anemic dancing and stilted moves (which was why I posted that video in in the first place, or perhaps you didn't catch that, either?), no one said anything about anyone being about cool or smart.

For comparison.
It's from a Japanese group but I think you get the idea (or maybe you don't).