How a Fascist or Natsoc movement can gain popularity

Aaron Adams
Aaron Adams

If it wants to gain followers, a Fascist movement cannot only appeal to 4chan autists and people who are far-right already. We need all sorts of people to succeed. Hitler knew this. we need to get the following on our side (some of these groups may seem odd, but bear with me): The Working Class and The Farmers, The Unemployed, The more reasonable members of the Black Nationalist community, the Baptists and Evangelists, the Normie moderate conservatives, Militant Communists, and the Middle Class

(Note: do not refer to our movement as Fascist or Nazi or White Nationalist from the get go. We need a more vague name, like "American Worker's Party", or "National Syndicalist Party" or "American Populist Party". We need to rope these average people in by just being generally populist, and then bring about our rise to power. Also, we don't need uniforms yet. Either dress in simple work clothes, or wear a nice suit and tie when trying to gain supporters. I suggest going to areas where people of whichever group we are trying to appeal to meet, or going door to door, especially in struggling communities. We need a force of men who are willing to be "missionaries" for our movement) (continued in comments)

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William Cook
William Cook

The Working Class: Simple. National Socialism is already the perfect system for them. The Working class doesn't like queers, feminine people, trannies, etc, but they sometimes side with the left because of their socialist programs, which would benefit the working class, or they side with the Capitalist Right, because they agree with social conservatism. We need to show that neither established side will help them, because the right sends their sons off on unnecessary wars, gets rid of social programs that help them, and cannot conserve any values effectively. We need to demonstrate that we share their social values, but that we will employ economic programs that help the working class. We also need to emphasize protectionism , and how we'll stop their jobs from being outsourced overseas. We change our promises and the details of our plans depending on whether we are talking to rural farm laborers or urban factory workers.

For the Unemployed, just promise them guaranteed jobs with decent pay.

Black Nationalists: Obviously, the "Kill Whitey" crowd is a lost cause, but more respectable groups, like the Nation of Islam, can be useful allies, as they are against race mixing, and many of them are woke on the Jewish Question. Just appeal to them by showing you agree with many of their goals and ideas. (I take an ethnopluralist approach to racial policy in the U.S., which means that multiple races can live in the same country, but race mixing is not allowed. Ethnonationalism is good for Europe, but the unique conditions of the United States make it more suited for Ethnopluralism.)

Baptists, Evangelists, Christian Fundamentalists, etc: These people are sympathetic to far-right views, but they seem to be stuck voting for normie Republicans, who can't effectively defend their values. We just need to show them that we are FOR Christianity, and AGAINST decadence and degeneracy.

Normie Moderate Conservatives: These folks already lean right. We just need to promise to get rid of abortion, get rid of leftism, etc. Our party must be pro-gun, because that's the only right most conservatives really care about. They wouldn't give a shit about us silencing every leftist ideologue's freedom of speech, as long as conservatives get to keep their guns.

Militant Communists: This seems like a weird choice, but I don't mean the SJW communists. I mean the ones who only care about socialist economics and the class struggle, and who think all the progressive identity politics stuff is just a Bourgeois distraction from the real struggle. We have two ways to get these people in our side: We could either form an alliance based on mutual hatred for the system, bankers, capitalists and elites, or We could persuade them to fully join us by convincing them that degeneracy and globalism are bourgeoisie, and point out that the actual proletariat tends to be conservative and nationalist. Hitler actually did this, by convincing Communists that he would usher in socialist policy that they liked. In fact, a large amount of the Brownshirts were actually communists who joined the NSDAP because they thought the National Socialists had a better chance of winning the election.

The middle class: We can appeal to the Middle Class by exaggerating our reactionary aspects, while downplaying our revolutionary aspects (basically the opposite of what we have to do to appeal to the communists) We just need to promise normality, stability, safety and security from terrorism, and we will have the Middle Class on our side.

Remember, we need to model our tactics, and many of our promises, on Trump's campaign, but with the anti-capitalist elements of Sander's campaign, while being less cucked than either one.

Henry Rodriguez
Henry Rodriguez

pretending to be something else
Unless the name and organization is organic, it is destined to fail. You cannot artificially create such a machine out of thin air - there must be an existing basis for such a movement.

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Aaron Bailey
Aaron Bailey

As each country tanks financially, these movements will spring up out of necessity. (((Their))) mistake was not keeping the goys fat and happy for another 20 years until everyone is completely soyed.

Jason Turner
Jason Turner

pretending to be something else

I'm just saying, don't use the NAME "Nazi" or "Fascist" they've become pejorative terms, with far too much baggage. We are presenting ourselves as populists who want what is best for the people. Which is, objectively, what we are.

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I knew I was gonna get shit for the "continued in comments" part. What should I have said? "Continued in replies"?

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

Nigga we faked you out. We're only hear to BTFO of pedos and traitors and it's happening brother.

Ryder Murphy
Ryder Murphy

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Chase Johnson
Chase Johnson

Go to a rainbow gathering and carefully drop subtle redpills.

Samuel Gutierrez
Samuel Gutierrez

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Christopher Garcia
Christopher Garcia

CFR researchers are now studying Zig Forums with their own bread.

Levi Smith
Levi Smith

With the combined power of Zig Forums's autism, you cucks never did dox Spencer's puncher.

Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

By spreading the truth and not being scared to own up to it.
Stop giving a fuck if someone calls you buzzword-X. The word Nazi and national socialist iconography is still used as an insult. Liberal faggots use it and so do cuckservatives. Words only hold the power that people allow it to have. Call me a racist/Nazi/misogynist and I don’t even blink.

Short answer: stop being a pussy

Zachary Moore
Zachary Moore

The only answer worth a damn. Get out there, do not fear death and you will win. The only way to lose is by doing nothing and never taking active measures.

Radicalize, organize, decentralize and destroy the jew economy with mass worker protests until we force them out of their hiding holes. Violence and terrorism are a must too. If we do not kill our enemy then they will win. Study guerrilla war.

Adam Moore
Adam Moore

It's already slowly and naturally moving that direction in both the US and parts of Europe.

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Daniel Moore
Daniel Moore

Sure schlomo, let's make sure all the NatSoc are terrorist and other scum who will be vilified by the masses. OP is correct in everything he says. Hitler would've approved. You are either an underage edgyfag or a JIDF shill.
Keep doing the good work OP, it's so nice to see some people who really understand the essence of national socialism.

Jonathan Brooks
Jonathan Brooks

FINALLY, A DECENT THREAD.
1. Follow the example of Golden Dawn in Greece and CasaPound, Forza Nuova and Fiamma Tricolore in Italy (as well as Lega Nord).
START SMALL in the community doing service and giving food to the WORKING CLASS who need it.
2. NETWORK with OTHER NATIONALISTS around the world for support.
3. Have a LARGE NUMBER of political candidates running for various offices to gain media attention. In the U. S. this should be through the American Freedom Party (founded by Kevin MacDonald).
I HAVE A CURRENT IDEA.
Support a MARCH ON SACRAMENTO to protest the blatant election rigging against Patrick Little.
This should appeal to:
- Whites
- Anti-Zionists/Anti-War activists
- Arabs
- Asians
- Blacks and Latinos as well (due to promise of spending money to Israel on rebuilding inner cities)
Pushing the issues of AFFORDABLE HOUSING (removing building regulations) and removing auto emissions regulations
"He who controls the street, controls the politics."
FINO ALLA VITTORIA!

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Eli Parker
Eli Parker

The Working class doesn't like queers, feminine people, trannies, etc,

Also, interlopers. Working class people do not like intrusions from foreigners. Probably one of the bigger ones concerning fascism and natsoc tbh.

CasaPound is a good example of organic growth. Trying to appeal to people comes across as contrived and forced. You have to believe in the values that these ideologies espouse and the fastest way to implementation is pushing towards affordable housing, cheap food and ridding the nation of predatory practices like usury and landlord classes. When you get widespread landlord classes emerging as has happened among the boomers you get downturns in other parts of the economy. All the money they generally make goes towards paying off numerous mortgages and overseas holidays. Landlord classes generate very little net social value.

Agree on all points

Julian Allen
Julian Allen

Anybody with an active social life and a real job (sitting at your computer everyday to cry about da joos along with other schizos doesn’t count, Zig Forums) will never become fascists. The only chance you stormfags have is to pander to the rejects of society. From my experiences as an active leftist I can tell you for a fact that we do not have a grip on white male incels and outcasts, they are too depressed and butthurt to help other people in a communal setting, none the less themselves. You guys have the perfect slogans and ideals that will appeal to them. (Emphasis on improving yourself, forming a master race of ubermensch, usings the jews as a scapegoat, etc.) They will see these and eventually convince themselves that fascism will make them stop being losers, or if the individual is past the point of no return, will want to support fascism to stop other white men from becoming outcasts like they are.

I shouldn’t be telling you guys this but i’ve always had a soft spot for you spergs as a lot of my incel friends are fashies/alt-right

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Joseph Reed
Joseph Reed

We need all sorts of people to succeed.
Be careful with this 'we' you speak of, because this is Zig Forums. However yes, any political group needs to appeal beyond the philosophical cauldron that is Zig Forums. This place is never meant, not ever should be, a political party in itself but merely a caustic pot from which truth and right action is extracted and provided to anons.

We need a more vague name
Not vague, resonating. But otherwise you're correct. NatSoc worked for Germans because Germans tailored it to their particular volk. It is the underlying philosophy that needs to be embraced to create a system that works for Americans. Anyone advocating for a new group to be neo-Nazi or whatever is either a hopelessly nostalgic fanboy little different than a weeb, mildly delusional as to what normal people will swallow today, or a shill of the JIDF type.

Also, we don't need uniforms yet. Either dress in simple work clothes, or wear a nice suit and tie when trying to gain supporters.
Only in the most early stages should there be no uniform when you are gathering your initial dozen or so members. The National Socialists began in beer halls and subsequently created the Brown Shirts who were prototypical uniforms, and only later did the advanced uniforms come into being. Uniforms are vital so that people can distinguish at a glance what group you belong to, attribute your deeds to that group and vice-versa, and create a powerful sense of unity within your group.

Working Class, Unemployed, Religious, Conservatives
You forgot rural folk, but this should be your major, if only initial, base. These people can labor well and have good characters. But it is important not to bring into your fold those they will conflict with.
Black Nationalists
No. You don't need these people 'in' your group, or as official 'allies'. Being amenable to others doesn't mean lashing your group to theirs.
Communists
Deconvert them or crush them. Unless they are the reasonable ones, most are broken and only a blight to your group, as they are designed to be Demoralization - study it.
Middle Class
Until they are downtrodden economically and socially, they won't do shit to risk their own station in life. Same with most of the rest.

As each country tanks financially, these movements will spring up out of necessity.
Partially true. The conditions for the group to rise in prominence will be an economic disaster that dislodges people from their stable lives and creates massive uncertainty and insecurity. But these groups don't just spring from nowhere, like they were formed right there on the spot. They exist beforehand, preparing their mechanisms and arguments and tactics well before the depths of despair in the populace, and grow explosively when the conditions become right. Great organizations don't just 'happen', they are designed to happen.

I knew I was gonna get shit for the "continued in comments" part. What should I have said? "Continued in replies"?
The answer is 'Lurk more'. You are obviously not fully a Zig Forumsack if you think bringing Reddit shit terms into this board will be acceptable. Observe from the better threads how to create an OP and learn the arguments that pass muster here.

Because Zig Forumsacks don't give a shit about a guy who thinks tiki-torches would be an inspiring sight.

Words only hold the power that people allow it to have. Call me a racist/Nazi/misogynist and I don’t even blink.
That's good advice. People WILL call you nasty things and try to label you because it makes them feel powerful and attempts to discredit you. Subvert their expectations first by not responding as expected by not giving a shit, and then show yourself to be reasonable and good despite their characterization. I don't agree you should march around calling yourself a Nazi because the truth itself is enough to rile people up, but overall good advice.

Get out there, do not fear death and you will win. The only way to lose is by doing nothing and never taking active measures.
It's a great way to start, but again great organizations don't just appear because you get people not fearing to do the right thing together any more than you get a house by piling up a bunch of planks. Organization is rare in itself, and good organization is rarer still. An organization filled with those unafraid of the truth and is consequences will conquer, but you need more than just bravery.

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Ian Cooper
Ian Cooper

le alt kike
Filtered.

Eli Brooks
Eli Brooks

The main problem I have with fascism is that they lost the war yet a whole bunch of anons around here venerate Hitler and say that "he did nothing wrong."

Western countries are fucked, regardless of who technically won. We are being invaded by Chinese and Indians and god knows what else.

Here is something that sums up the role of technology and superiority in Hitler's Germany:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_XXI_submarine
Construction
Between 1943 and 1945, 118 boats were assembled by Blohm & Voss of Hamburg, AG Weser of Bremen, and Schichau-Werke of Danzig. Each hull was constructed from eight prefabricated sections with final assembly at the shipyards. This new method could have resulted in construction time of less than six months per vessel, but in practice all the assembled U-boats were plagued with severe quality problems that required extensive post-production work to rectify. One of the reasons for these shortcomings was that sections were made by companies having little experience with shipbuilding, after a decision by Albert Speer. As a result, of 118 Type XXIs constructed, only four were fit for combat before the Second World War ended in Europe. Of these, only two conducted combat patrols and neither sank any Allied ships.

Hitler was just as nepotistic and retarded as the fucking Jews.

Sage for reddit copypasta

Kayden Sullivan
Kayden Sullivan

Coward. Enjoy living in fear as your depressed children seek drugs and literal emasculation due to the world you bequeth upon them. Remember as you lay dying what a useless and pathetic cunt you were. Terrorism is the bombing of government institutions. It is necessary when open war and organization is impossible in a tyrannical surveillance state. Fucking rat race running twofaced genocide enabler. Hope the kikes replace your bloodline and destroy your hometown so you wake up to the dire situation. We are the last possible generation to rebel before they win permanently. You do not understand what the fuck is going on. We will die anyways, stop being an egotistical bastard pussy and take up arms for the 14 words! Reminder that your should never target civilians, only ZOG.

SIEG HEIL!

Nicholas Butler
Nicholas Butler

<demoralization shilling
<openly admits as much
DOTR is for you too. You fucking arrogant race traitor swine. Your job and material wealth is a fucking illusion I will gladly cure with some lead to your worthless traitorous skull.

Alexander Anderson
Alexander Anderson

Trying to appeal to people comes across as contrived and forced.
Agreed, which is why Zig Forumsacks often balk at the notion of 'optics'. There's merit to both sides, but ultimately conviction is the greatest attractant among people.
Landlord classes generate very little net social value.
That would have to be an interesting discussion for another thread, because I disagree on the face of it but would need to know more on the subject.

Anybody with an active social life and a real job will never become fascists.
Even filthy leftists can make decent observations from time to time. Those with a lot to lose will not dare flirt too closely with ideas that get you branded as 'bad', either from rejection from their social circle or their job. However those who have lost everything or never had anything don't worry about it, and with enough perceived social approval people can change the minds of even the comfortable. Leftists rely on amassing groups of disgusting, broken people who by their mere numbers convince others. If you amass men of conviction together in a positive direction, you'll see some serious shit. Now you should hop back onto your containment board, leftypol.

The main problem I have with fascism is that they lost the war yet a whole bunch of anons around here venerate Hitler and say that "he did nothing wrong."
When the rest of the world dogpiles on top of you and you lose, does it mean you had the wrong idea? No. And the phrase 'Hitler did nothing wrong' is mainly in reference to the ideology and actual political/ethical actions, aside from it being a joke because it riles people up.
Hitler was just as nepotistic and retarded as the fucking Jews.
I doubt Hitler was personally busying himself with being a shipwright expert in 1943. Besides, as said previously, serious Zig Forumsacks don't want to copy Hitler so much as use the model provided to inspire something new for their various circumstances. It isn't an argument to say a historical figure wasn't perfect, therefore the overall model should be thrown out.

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Jackson Sullivan
Jackson Sullivan

WW2 was lost by the good guys due to kike propaganda and elite masonic/jewish cultists and bankers
<just give up goyim we are superior!
NEVER SURRENDER, NEVER TIRE, NEVER SLACKEN!

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Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

It isn't an argument to say a historical figure wasn't perfect, therefore the overall model should be thrown out.
I agree. Mein Kampf was written almost a hundred years ago and needs a serious reboot. The psychology is still spot on but the technological and economic aspects are extremely dated.

When the rest of the world dogpiles on top of you and you lose, does it mean you had the wrong idea?
It means that perhaps you were wrong about many enemies only appearing as one. Is international Jewry really this powerful?

Give up? Never!

Zachary Price
Zachary Price

This has all been done before, even with those exact names.
The only way to win over the masses is to provide them an alternative viable government that personally benefits them, the white man. Viable meaning you have sufficient force of arms and can exert your authority without retaliation by the occupying power.

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Luke Reed
Luke Reed

as an active leftist my buzz words are:
<da joos
<stormfags
<white male
<incels
<scapegoat
<losers
<white men
<outcasts
<fashies
<alt-right
also epic .jpeg dude, i upvoted it on /r/communism the other day based

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Matthew Cruz
Matthew Cruz

Landlord classes generate very little net social value.

That would have to be an interesting discussion for another thread, because I disagree on the face of it but would need to know more on the subject.

Most Landlords will do minimal maintenance on their properties whereas owners are more likely to do renovations and upgrades which pours money into the economy. Landlords serve the banks first and foremost by paying interest on their loans. Hitler had the right idea by giving low interest loans so that everyone could have a house and forgave certain loans after a couple had a number of children.

Ryder Russell
Ryder Russell

Mein Kampf was written almost a hundred years ago and needs a serious reboot.
There are many books, studies, and figures who have since illuminated various parts of what Mein Kampf was suggesting and observing like Culture of Critique explaining the oddity of Jewry in far greater detail than Hitler's observations, though it shows you can come to more or less the right conclusion even with incomplete data. The problem is that ye olde Zig Forums Book Thread posts hundreds of books that frankly very few Zig Forumsacks will ever read. What is needed is notes on each and people to consolidate the useful information together into useful tools and maps so that the strategic-minded of Zig Forums can put together useful tactics and strategies.
It means that perhaps you were wrong about many enemies only appearing as one. Is international Jewry really this powerful?
The idea of saying all your enemies are just one enemy is useful to mass psychology to focus your efforts and not feel utterly besieged on all sides. In reality you can cut down the opposition into nearly infinite groups of different enemies, but that view of it is rarely useful except for tacticians who can handle the stress of it. International Jewry is highly networked, but it isn't nearly as powerful as I believe Zig Forums's paranoia believes. It's still powerful and dangerous enough to constitute the 'one enemy' idea for the masses though.

That's sad that NW Front doesn't include Eastern Montana, where all the best Montanans are. The western section has the blue cesspool of Missoula in it. An excellent site for experimentation with group dynamics though - the university is dying and its leftists are weakly organized while pockets of discontents are appearing.
The only way to win over the masses is to provide them an alternative viable government that personally benefits them, the white man.
Everyone is asking, "What should I do?" and very few people actually have an answer. The most aggravating thing about e-celebs is that even the ones who talk and talk about the woes of the western world and that people should 'do something', the audience asks constantly what they can do and the e-celebs have no answers. The better among them just aren't creative, but the worst are beholden to the Chicken Little model of income generation where they alternate between riling people up and then assuring them so that the service of relief-giving through anger or joking deprives them of their will to get up and do something as well as their sheckles. An organization worth its salt will have the basic outlines of how a governance would work, which is why previous working models like NatSoc Germany or Italy or other successful governments are of such interest to those who want to find that viable answer. When people are presented the real crisis and ask, "What can I do to help?" you better have a practical answer to give them or you're wasting a massive opportunity.

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Owen Murphy
Owen Murphy

Dont use socialist either, because antifa has already ruined that.

David Gutierrez
David Gutierrez

You KNOW that Hitler didn't do any mechanical inspection and just said "yes" or "no" to new inventions, right?
ALBERT SPEER was responsible for that piece of shit submarine. Which was a tiny thing in the whole picture of the Kriegsmarine.

Fuck off.

Hitler was just as nepotistic and retarded as the fucking Jews.
At least he fought against them then, you dunce. What did your grandpa do? Thats right, took bullets for kikes while his neighbors took turn fuck your grandma. He might not even be your biological grandpa.

Joshua Roberts
Joshua Roberts

Well then he's just as useless as the MBAs that currently run this place. Go fuck yourself if you don't know what I mean by that.

John Russell
John Russell

Two words. Community outreach. That and generously helping only other whites and saying that you are only helping them as a kinsman and if they wern't you'd spit on them and runaway with a big friendly smile on your face, and people begin to understand what you are. For nonwhites explain you cannot give material aid but only advice and most of that of things that are outside the area the conversation takes place.
If we got together with local whitegangs and started talking openly about how all the other tribals are dividing us and how theres not enough of everything on this earth for absolutely everyone, and that its impossible to share all the valuable things we have with the uncounted billions on the earth without impoverishing and starving ourselves, we could probably be able to trade help and items among ourselves.

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Nathaniel Campbell
Nathaniel Campbell

not already running under the GOP and getting seats for city positions that have no competition for them

Isaiah Howard
Isaiah Howard

In fact, no. Go fuck yourself, period. If I'm being talked down to it won't be by a fucking moron like yourself.

socialist
Any political movement with the word "socialism" in it is poison.

Julian Rivera
Julian Rivera

What did your grandpa do? Thats right, took bullets for kikes while his neighbors took turn fuck your grandma.
You know I don't know if it's just me but I think I might remember you from another thread which is right here: . With the "le 56% face" posts I've seen possibly coming from you, I hope you're not implying that the founding fathers, John F. Kennedy, George Lincoln Rockwell, William Luther Pierce III, Pat Buchanan, David Duke, and Patrick Little are not White just because they were American. You could be just the wrong user but still.

Liam Anderson
Liam Anderson

In fact, no. Go fuck yourself, period. If I'm being talked down to it won't be by a fucking moron like yourself.
Bite me, retard.
Sure, don't run around with NSDAP regalia yet, but you stink of a boomer retard that eats kike propaganda for breakfast.

Be paranoid somewhere else. Of course a kraut breaking the conditioning will unleash his autism. We all know that better than anyone else.
And do you blame him?
We still have retards posting bomber harris and things like these

Eli Foster
Eli Foster

The future of NatSoc, ladies and gentlemen.

Gavin Martin
Gavin Martin

It has resorted to weak, snarky shaming attempt
No Hitler will be created here, we all know that.
Zig Forums is just a place for me to go to read the news and shit on semi concious retards, like you.

Gavin Thompson
Gavin Thompson

Mein Kampf was written almost a hundred years ago and needs a serious reboot.
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Nolan Clark
Nolan Clark

The future of NatSoc, ladies and gentlemen.
Sure looks like a much better future than what the kikes have in store for the West to become.

Jaxson Gutierrez
Jaxson Gutierrez

They're wasting their breath. Even when a gem of a thread pops up, it's just a circle jerk of anesthetized Jewhate. Nobody wants to put that rage to use.

If you are, then all the best to you

Brandon Garcia
Brandon Garcia

The guy was shitting on my ancestors. I note that the Jews and their supporters did the same just prior to the revolution in 1918.

Agree to disagree.

Adam Roberts
Adam Roberts

Blind adherence to bloodline is not an European trait. If the ancestors were shit you say THEY are shit and forge a new path.
You are following the same trainwreck of the prussian nobles who betrayed Hitler. And the cuckservative boomers who can't pull their head out of their asses.

Gavin Young
Gavin Young

blind adherence
forge a new path
Which was my point at

Andrew Bennett
Andrew Bennett

Yeah, Hitler and friends fucked up many chances. No denying that. But to do it YOUR way means burying the truth. And that doesn't help us correct the mistakes.
Just another umami dream of kike bullshit.

Josiah Lee
Josiah Lee

What is the truth?

Logan Cox
Logan Cox

Hitler and friends fought for what was right.

Adam Martin
Adam Martin

Having gotten an MBA myself, I can tell you that plenty of my peers were not terribly capable in terms of planning or understanding business. Surprisingly. However, Hitler himself talked about how in his view the organization and delegation was a necessary evil once your influence and power grows so much that a single man simply has no more time or energy to handle it alone. Even small businesses go through a transition stage where they get so many workers that the owner can no longer be on the line, in meetings, and guiding the ship without delegating some responsibilities down the chain. Hitler was busy doing things that only the top of his organization could do, while figuring out what would be the best design for a submarine had to be delegated to a hopefully competent individual. Nepotism creeps into any organization, even good ones, because when it comes to hiring a person asks themselves, "Do I know anyone who I think could do the job?" and usually goes with that just to avoid expending energy on thinking about it too long. That usually becomes insiders and connected individuals rather than those with the most merit, and in a big organization like one running an entire country, plenty of lesser candidates can slip through the cracks. Keep in mind that NatSoc Germany also had like three separate divisions of police forces all tasked with doing the same job with essentially the same jurisdiction, yet that redundancy never even came to Hitler's attention apparently. It's a great evil of organizations that grow really large, and it takes a lot of focus just to keep the bureaucracy controlled. Hard to do in peacetime, let alone in a war.

Two words. Community outreach.
Your dubs are wise. Zig Forums should have Community Improvement Generals alongside the Self-Improvement. Even little things like picking up trash or painting a worthy person's house or planting flowers or making gardens would not only improve one's neighborhoods but be a way to select for one's volk and, if done under the organization's banner and uniform, be the greatest kind of grassroots politicizing possible. Plus it is just good for the soul, and it is hard to label a group as a bunch of hateful monsters when they spend most of their time painting houses for little old people and cultivating flowers.

not already running under the GOP and getting seats for city positions that have no competition for them
That's an easy route too, as when it comes to a city the only money you have to overcome is usually just whatever the local buggers put in, which is only a few thousand dollars. Just keep your powerlevel hidden until you have enough fellows in there to unleash yourselves effectively. But again, an organization devoted to an organized approach to this would be highly beneficial.

The future of NatSoc, ladies and gentlemen.
In my organization, squabblers like this would be reprimanded and subsequently removed if they persisted in this kind of petty arguing. What matters is keeping the philosophy clear and pursing the plan, and if you can't argue without maintaining those efforts you have no place in a proper organization. Arguments that are focused on the betterment of the plan and organization can be very useful, but so long as it stays on topic and doesn't devolve into useful insults. Both of you should grow a thicker skin, make your arguments, and stop shitting up the thread with personal insults unless they are particularly clever and amusing. Practice some self control for the lurkers.

Even when a gem of a thread pops up, it's just a circle jerk of anesthetized Jewhate. Nobody wants to put that rage to use.
Exercising hate is a way of letting off steam, but we need that steam to fuel real efforts. Agree with Patrick Little or not for instance, but that fucker got mad and used his anger to wander outside and distribute redpills. Zig Forums is a place to share information, gather ideas, and test notions as a philosophical proving ground. It is not a platform for organizing in itself, just a public square to talk in. Organizations won't be born here, just partially supplied.

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Elijah Reyes
Elijah Reyes

No.
You are describing an appeal to the center into cuckservativism and "kosher" civic nationalism.
You are describing the "alt-right" or even the "alt-light"
Any movement that does not have Volkish White nationalism and an opposition to both degeneracy and the vile jewish NWO as its FIXED CORE VALUES is bullshit that will be pozzed to hell.
It will be endlessly "appealed to the center" until it stands for NOTHING (just like the repubs today).
Furthermore, no White man is going to fight and die for "moderate" black and brown invasion and for "reasonable" White genocide (other than maybe a few worthless cucks). And the blacks and browns are already getting everything that they could possibly want. Why would they oppose the diversity multicult/ gibs gravy train?
Why fight for White genocide to take a little longer? Why not fight to STOP IT ENTIRELY?
Damn civnats. Not even once.
And Bernie Sanders? Really?
Wake up and smell the White genocide, White man.
There is no "middle ground" in a world rocketing towards total White marginalization and the eventual total genocide of White people.

Gas yourself. Thoroughly.

It's not about hate. It's about the truth.

Wow!!! White genocide is TOTALLY OK now!!!!!
gas yourself

White countries for White people and only White people.
Anything else is bullshit.
Anything else is White genocide.

White genocide or White nationalism.
Pick one, White man.

Gabriel Hall
Gabriel Hall

What are the positive goals of the organization?

I won't be part of any movement that uses others as a scapegoat.

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

Wow!!! White genocide is TOTALLY OK now!!!!!
My grandpa wasn't on the water of Normandy. So I don't know about that :^)

I won't be part of any movement that uses others as a scapegoat.
But you just did. 2 more drop of kike lies and you would have compared Hitler to a marxist.

Or are you still butthurt that your grandpa fought for the wrongside? Grow the fuck up.

Luis Mitchell
Luis Mitchell

Too long; re-read Siege and The Turner Diaries instead.

Logan Nguyen
Logan Nguyen

The mark of a man is to take responsibility. Blaming international Jewry for all of my problems will not make my problems go away.

Where did I blame Hitler for my problems?

2 more drop of kike lies and you would have compared Hitler to a marxist
You're still blaming the Jews. If there were no more Jews would we still have war?

Nicholas Campbell
Nicholas Campbell

Were there Jews in China during the warring states period?

Ayden Brown
Ayden Brown

The fuck. It is too late in the night for me to type something long but I will say this.
I don't give a fuck.
My sole reason for exterminating every kike on earth is because of their abnormal, inhumane creation called communism.
Literally all other races only tried to ape it.
But only the kikes have created communism and the basis of globalism as we know it.

We kill each other. But we are of the same blood. It is our business.
The kikes don't belong anywhere. And the damage they have caused justifies their extinction.

The mark of a man is to take responsibility
What the fuck nigger?
I'm at fault that I, like most of my peers, have to grind ourselves trying to study things we are not passionate about, therefore not good at and wasting tax money and all our time?
It is MY fault that retards like your grandpa saved communism and fucked Europe over?

Sure, I won't just lay down and cry over this but don't you fucking DARE to lay the blame on me.

Some truthful memes for your good night sleep.
Yeah I saved them

Who gives a fuck? Are you some kind of commie?
Conflicts blow up into war eventually, but we always survive and get better from it. Whole Asia has been changing dynasties like their imbiss menu since the dawn of time and they were content.
Only with a KIKE ideology that they fucked their culture and turn into the bug people we and they themselves despise.

You are trying to defend and deflect blame from kikes. Must be the remnants of that ZOG education.

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Dominic Clark
Dominic Clark

good post lefty dude, and yea, you are mostly on point. The thing with fascism tho is that it helps to get to the old mindset of past ages, and with the arduous standards that it had (think of trying to go near Olympian levels), its a shame that more normies arent trying it, I have found that if you push your limits far enough, eventually you can get farther ahead than those who didnt do it. So many things are taken for granted by those who have something…that they dont realize how much they can cut off…not a very good min max strategy they have…

Chase Bell
Chase Bell

What are the positive goals of the organization?
Excellent question. I'll have to organize it more carefully and make it more concrete, but in a nutshell:
Secure the existence of an American read White homeland against threat foreign and domestic
Ensure the government, economy, and society serves a higher purpose than the acquisition of wealth or the elimination of suffering
Reclassify citizenship to be a voluntary effort that may only be undertaken by eligible individuals married, landowning Whites
To balance the liberty and improvement of the individual with their responsibility to their fellow citizens
It's shoddy right now because it isn't specific, but I'll be working on it until it shows up in some future thread. A good organization should have a platform of ideas, but boil it down to just one or three simple things in order to be successful in convincing the masses to support.

Siege and The Turner Diaries
When it comes to violence, a modern organization has to be extremely careful about it. That violence should be first turned inward in the form of discipline over members, meaning that you should remove a traitor or an insubordinate before an enemy. Doesn't mean hurting them physically so much as just ousting them from participation, but it is an aggressive stance. When it comes to violence outside of itself, that should only be taken when all other avenues, and I mean all, have been fully exploited to their highest possible degree. Violence is energy intensive, dangerous to membership, and very tricky to make look righteous for the masses. Staying defensive but highly punitive towards threats is what the small organization should strive for and do its best to control offensive violence for when they have a greater foothold in the hearts and minds of their people. Anyone here is so far away from that last point though we don't have to discuss what to do then, but it is about specified and intelligent control of that aggressive energy.

Were there Jews in China during the warring states period?
No one on Zig Forums has ever said that a world without the influence of Jews would be peaceful. Quite the opposite. Europe's peoples were forged in an almost eternal conflict, as were the Japanese, as were many other great nations on Earth. The Jews are just one of many threats to most people on Earth, but they are not the sole cause of strife among humans. This is a strawman argument, and you should be ashamed for using such shilly logic.

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Cameron Perez
Cameron Perez

We don't hate kikes because they are the only cause of war, we hate them because they have caused incalculable strife for our people over the past 300 years in particular and for 2000+ years in general. This is like suggesting that you shouldn't remove a tumor because it's possible that one day you could get malaria instead.

Easton Gomez
Easton Gomez

Non-whites can see the injustice being done to White people but are reluctant to help for fear of what will happen after you defeat your arch nemesis–da joooos. Will you turn into Nazis and kill everyone that isn't White?—this fear is used by the Jews to make non-whites unwilling to take your side. For example, the constantly reminder of Hitler this, Holocaust that, Nazis killed xxxx people in the Jewish controlled media.

Alexander Gonzalez
Alexander Gonzalez

1. Disgust: @pedophiles @fags @fatties @bugmen @cucks etc
2. Expose fact of planned ethnic replacement

These alone are enough to psychologically activate the emergent collective defense program known as fascism. Fascism is innate and latent. It only requires activation. This is exactly why image boards produce fascists. Spam disgusting images. Expose people to constant threat of invaders and outsiders replacing their culture. The reproducible and predictable result is fascism. Everything the left is doing is fueling our rise. We only need to offer people the language and lens to see it more quickly.

Lincoln Evans
Lincoln Evans

As each country tanks financially, these movements will spring up out of necessity.
No. Unless you take matters into your own hands nothing will happen on its own.

Hudson Martin
Hudson Martin

Top kike. Why don't you join OP at the Ebin Leddit Cocksucking Convention? I mean, seriously–your faggotry is completely allowed there. We actually need boards because we are censored by kikes unlike your shabbos goy ass, retard.

And what the fuck is up with the blind hatred? That's all you fucks are–you have never made sense about anything, and that's why no one likes you or your shitty starvation ideology. And we're not feeeeeeeshists. This is an NS board, retard. Now, YOU fuck off and die.

I would be likely to beat the fuck out of someone using a racial pejorative for me IRL.

No, dubs-waster. You need to be "Communist" when you do all the black hat shit. You'll be indistinguishable anyway, lol.

Wew–shills everywhere.
hurr I kno eggastkly what errryune does eeeere
Fuck you.

NO. McDonald is an altkike cianigger shill who is soft on kikes and corrupt and I know insiders and have it 100% confirmed. Stop giving bad information you dumb faggot.

not sees
Too bad that's not real and the accusations by kikes are obviously lies. The biggest problem I tend to have with foreigners is how they believe shit like that, honestly.

Adrian Ward
Adrian Ward

I can't be bothered to read your comment, but as a European I've come to similar conclusions:
1. Appeal to the working class.
2. Be nice and friendly, not a tattooed skinhead.
3. Don't try to rehabilitate the Nazis.
4. Promote good Christians values and virtues. Be humble, modest, and chaste.
5. Always market yourself as loving your own, never as hating the other.
6. Be a hard-line ethnic nationalist and racial purist, but always put it in positive terms.
7. Your highest goal must always be "freedom from Jewish globalism". People love freedom movements.
8. Be brave, risk your life and freedom for your movement if need be, but don't allow it to degenerate into a violent/criminal organization.
This is how Hitler made it, and this is how we will make it too. Stay strong brothers, having sincere conversation with worried fellow countrymen is a 1000 times more worth than waving Nazi flags at rallies.

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Samuel Roberts
Samuel Roberts

Also, I want to add, in the USA your first goal must be to get rid of the kikes, since they will spoil your every endeavour. Work with whoever you must in order to accomplish this goal.
If you try to build an ethnostate without getting rid of the kikes first, know that you will fail.

John Rogers
John Rogers

because of their abnormal, inhumane creation called communism
It would be reason enough if every Jew had conspired to create communism but as yet there is not enough evidence. And if we were to destroy communism, what would take its place?

Let's face it guys, we have an image problem, and even though marxism killed 10x as many people as natsoc did, marxists openly organize and meet while anyone even vaguely right wing is disemployed and hounded to suicide.

I'm not ashamed; I've dealt with too many SJWs to feel shame anymore. It is folly to fight the unreasonable with reason; they fear only the boot.

Once we are on the field of reason then I will argue reasonably.

Easton Edwards
Easton Edwards

Good suggestions. Jews don't lead with the purple hairs and we shouldn't lead with the tatts.

loving your own
This is KEY! The people that we want are sick of negativity. Being positive will attract positive people.

freedom from Jewish globalism
This will make me sound like a crazy when talking to normies. Can I just say "freedom from globalism"?

Tyler Evans
Tyler Evans

McDonald is an altkike cianigger shill who is soft on kikes and corrupt and I know insiders and have it 100% confirmed.
And we're gonna take your word on it, because sharing what you know would be too much to ask.

always put it in positive terms.
This is very important. Be the whitepill that inspires others, can't agree more.

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Hunter Gomez
Hunter Gomez

These incompetent faggots posted this on four chins too. I never looked to see if the bait was taken there.

Adrian Roberts
Adrian Roberts

To expand on what this user had to say:

You can lower people's guard by saying some variant of, "You know, I realized a while back that while obviously it's wrong to commit genocide or invade Poland, I never actually learned any of the Nazi party's other policies. We use them so much as the example of what not to do, but other than those two things I never had any clue what they do, exactly, the way we all know about communists. I feel like I should at least know what I'm talking about." You can use some variation of that to lower the "Nazi=bad" defenses and discuss all kinds of taboo subjects with most people. This works because people want to feel smart, and because the Nazis and Fascists actually had a lot of good policy positions by today's standards.

Definitely stop caring about being called a racist. "Birds fly, fish swim, leftists call people racists. Some people, their accusations don't count as evidence one way or the other." This works because it's true, and most normies will accept this.

Biggest thing, though, is what actually worked for the Nazis. Be willing to defend your fellow citizens from violent commies. To borrow a phrase, be the change you want to be in the world. Real Nazis obtained power because when every other group and even the government had given up on stopping the commies burning down buildings and attacking ordinary people, the brownshirts were risking their own safety to protect them.

Robert Thomas
Robert Thomas

Can't be done. Trump cucked too hard too fast. It's over. Just hope for a quick death.

Anthony Myers
Anthony Myers

Need to show people that their lives will improve greatly under nat soc, so many people on gibs worried they will miss out if things change, they need to be swayed to want to improve their own lives

Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

You've made a grave error if you think that will work here.

Andrew Reed
Andrew Reed

FUCK YOU GOYIM, JUST LAY DOWN AND DIE!!!!!

Cooper Thomas
Cooper Thomas

How many times do you optics niggers need to be told to fuck off and read siege before you stop posting these dumb ass threads? We don't need to pretend to be something we aren't, and trying to pretend only leads to trouble in the long run.

Lincoln Moore
Lincoln Moore

What is the truth?
I 1939 Adolf Hitler authorized Aktion T4. Reich Leader Bouhler and Dr. Brandt were entrusted with the responsibility of extending the authority of physicians, to be designated by name, so that patients who, after a most critical diagnosis, and on the basis of humane judgment, were considered incurable, could be granted mercy death. There were 6 locations at which this were carried out under medical auspices. Those locations were not at the labor, concentration or internment camps but at primarily psychiatric hospitals. The edict was protested against heavily, primarily by Catholics but also Jews and others and it was repealed in 1941 but it's apparent that the program continued de facto until a short time after the war.
Several methods of mercy killing were employed with the most common being lethal injection. There were also gas chambers but they didn't employ Zyklon B. Some people were shot. The number of mercy killings was accounted precisely at 70,273 in Germany and 16,153 in Poland. Those euthanized were primarily German but it isn't impossible that Jews were subject to a degree of discrimination and overrepresented. This was the genesis of the mass extermination by homicidal gas chamber mythos, which existed even during the war. Those Catholics, Jews and others who objected to the program and protested against it sometimes took it to the point of hysteria and beyond and some wanted to illustrate their perception of the program as an obscenity as graphically as possible. There was much exaggeration. The stories of mass extermination by homicidal gas chambers in German concentration camps is almost entirely false.
There were captured Bolshevics who were considered war criminals in retaliation for war crimes inflicted against Germans by the Bolshevics. Some were selected for inclusion in a comparative anatomy study/exhibition. Subsequently 87 were gassed to death in a makeshift gas chamber in Belsen. 80 of those gassings were supposedly done by Josef Kramer, notoriously named 'The Beast of Belsen' by post war propagandists and whose primary crime seems to have been that he remained at his post where on March 1, 1945, he filed a report asking for help and resources, stating that of the 42,000 inmates in his camp, 250–300 died each day from typhus. On March 19, the number of inmates rose to 60,000 as the Germans continued to evacuate camps that were soon to be overrun by the Allies. As late as the week of April 13, some 28,000 additional displaced people were brought in. He was accused of taking part in the selection of Jews to be sent to the 'gas chamber'. In fact what he did was triage and attempt to maintain some semblance of order even after the allies cut off the water supply. There are of course other stories, and they're almost all claptrap. 87 Bolshevik Jew war criminals were gassed in German concentration camps. 86,426 people who greatly suffered were granted a quick and painless end. That program very likely was abused a few times because everywhere there are bureacrats someone is an evil asshole. Several hundred thousands of people died of disease and malnutrition within the labor and concentration camp system when Germany was eventually bombed into submission.
I could go on for days, if you really want the truth.

Nolan Stewart
Nolan Stewart

you need black nationalists, communists and zionist evangelicals for a NS party
This is what happens when you don't take the Siegepill. Maybe we also need LGBT and genderqueer "people" in the big tent?

Jayden Gray
Jayden Gray

but the unique conditions of the United States make it more suited for Ethnopluralism
The unique conditions of Jewish subversion of immigration laws? The Founding Fathers were white nationalists by modern standards. Ethnopluralism is absurd, traitorous and will inevitably lead to conflict. No capitulation.

Nathaniel Morris
Nathaniel Morris

(Note: do not refer to our movement as Fascist or Nazi or White Nationalist ==from the get go==. We need a more vague name, like "American Worker's Par-

Part of the reason for this fake moment is so later they can point to this thread and say
"See, they are sneaky and dishonest

Wyatt Lopez
Wyatt Lopez

Read Siege
Also you need to understand that organizing on 4chan or Zig Forums is essentially impossible now IF you post a thread about it you will instantly be called a CIA nigger/Glow in the dark/Honeypot even meet up Swiss which were ones possible in the past and led to grear events like Charlottesville are completely impossible now because of the shills on here. Until they ban anyone who posts about Q CIA niggers or honeypots POL is all but dead

Jacob Anderson
Jacob Anderson

zigforums.com/thread/11715046/politics
^
Exhibit A
Try to organize anything annnnd In come the JIDF shills screaming
ITS A HONEYPOT GOY
RADICALISM IS BAD
GOING TO JAIL FOR THE CAUSE IS WRONG
CIA NIGGERS IGNORE OP GOYS HE IS ZOG CONTROLLED

Adrian Jenkins
Adrian Jenkins

I always love LARPERs who became a nazi in 2016 come in and think they have the solution, and that their grand idea of starting a party with shitty names from scratch is the best and only option.

Hunter Price
Hunter Price

TL Read my previous posts above^

Jeremiah Morris
Jeremiah Morris

Agree to disagree.
"I don't want to discuss our ideas in order or protecting my own, whether or not they turn out to be right or wrong. It's not worth the risk."

Austin Powell
Austin Powell

can't crosspost properly

Charles Nguyen
Charles Nguyen

This will make me sound like a crazy when talking to normies. Can I just say "freedom from globalism"?
No. We have to attack the Jews directly, because our success hinges 90% on whether or not we can defeat them. If you are a hard-working, helpful and virtuous person and a good Christian, people are more likely to adopt your viewpoints than not.

Ryan Baker
Ryan Baker

Also, never forget, that once someone is red-pilled, you can't un-red-pill them. Our fight is the just fight, if we insist we will prevail.

Zachary Barnes
Zachary Barnes

Fascism is illegal so it can't. Case closed.

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Dylan Flores
Dylan Flores

Go suck your BOs dick

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Ethan Sullivan
Ethan Sullivan

Torfaggot honestly thinks nonwhites will ever care about whites or support white racialist movements that want to, at the very least, kick them out of white countries.
kys

David Walker
David Walker

As always, self improve, get stronger, get smarter, get wealthier.

With influence, wealth & force, you can conquer the world.

Brayden White
Brayden White

muh based zogbot ancestors

Parker Green
Parker Green

Let's not blame the jews, let's blame our ancestors instead, goyim.

Who are you trying to fool?

Thomas Hill
Thomas Hill

I blame the jews and them. They ate the "saving democracy" bait hook line and sinker.

Sebastian Sullivan
Sebastian Sullivan

There is no enemy but the jews, muslims and africans.

You blaming your ancestors wouldn't change shit but turn you into a self-hating piece of crap.

Jacob Butler
Jacob Butler

I believe that the words have power, look.
First we have to popularize the term "oppression" in the same fashion that "triggered" now have in all of these autistic right//radical centrist/ant sjw/lolspergtarians and etc, the same meaning that lefturds give to it.
danger faggot milo OPPRESS whinny feminist
antifa OPPRESSED by based stickfigure
Grandpah OPRESSING thugs (old man shoot and kill blacks who only wanted monies for deir prugahms during home invasion)
After the word become a meme, we do the same thing with "nazis","fascism" and "hitlerrary litter" again in the same meaning that the lefturds give to it.
i'm a NAZI just because i believe that white people have the right to exist

Daniel Lewis
Daniel Lewis

1) Critiques of capitalism itself are meaningless as it is a ill defined term created by marxists and socialists specifically to critique. Despite all claims to the contrary it doesn't constitute and ideology or morality of its own and is nebulously applied to elevate or denigrate. Nobody would have called themselves capitalists until commies started screaming it then it became default "fuck commies".

Instead point out that you are extremely pro-industry and pro-business within the context of nationalism. If Ford Motor Company doesn't hold any funds in foreign banks, builds all its components and does all finishing work in the USA while following the rules then guess what, Ford doesn't pay corporate income tax this year though the individuals might if they make enough money. Meanwhile Shekleburgstein pays 500% income tax, because fuck kikes and investment banking in general and if they can pay with their lives if they lack the coin. Similarly Walmart pays huge taxes because fuck service and retail they have no real function. But the small oil company which employs 100 men pays no taxes as it contributes to national prestige and power. These are merely examples but the gist is that if you are good for the nation then we take nearly nothing from you but if we deem you bad for the nation then you have no place here and we plan to impoverish(and though we don't say it aloud, kill) you.

The welfarism of Prussianism isn't even necessary in the US given an all white population anyway. Whites in the US were never amiable toward socialism in the first place and after 150 years of their money being taken from them and given to shitskins and kikes they really despise it. Remember that the majority of extant whites are now the children of "conservatives" and ruralites because nobody else breeds anymore or has been breeding sufficiently for almost 80 years at this point. The population has in fact shifted back to the original colonial stock of German mercenaries and Cavalier expats because the Roundhead New Englanders and the post 1880 immigrants stopped breeding. These people are naturally taciturn and some of them even fled from the Prussianism that National Socialism is derived from, more about that latter. These people often don't want welfare and don't take it even when elligable. So what should be done is an attempt to make it easier for whites to get welfare if they really need it while denying it to niggers and spics, requiring personal indentification at all times and drug tests is one example of things that can be done. Remember that the few rural whites who do vote democrat are basically white niggers looking for gibs me dats and constitute the lowest 1% of the rural population to begin with.

When it comes to economics hammer on the truth that non-whites are a net fiscal loss to the government and economy, so are faggots by the way. Point out that if the non-whites population disappeared and their contribution to the economy wast stripped away from corporate taxable income we'd still have had a 0.8 to 1.8 trillion dollar federal budget surplus every year for the last 40 years. You could have a European welfare state with that dosh though I would fight against it tooth and nail because it isn't necessary and undermines the position of local communal support. But it wouldn't be ruinously expensive. Or you could keep 2 million men under arms, or build 4 new aircraft carriers ever year and 20 destroyers, or 400 f22s, or a nuclear pulse propulsion space battleship or anything you wanted. The shitskins are an albatross around the neck of white men who produce all the surplus in this society.
White Medicare beneficiaries
cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2012/128.pdf

White Social Security beneficiaries
kff.org/report-section/income-and-assets-of-medicare-beneficiaries-2014-2030-tables/

White Welfare recipients 2015

White Medicaid recipients
cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2014/118.pdf

Total Medicaid Spending
kff.org/medicaid/state-indicator/total-medicaid-spending/

Total Medicare Spending
futureofmedicare.org/content/reports-and-resources/congressional-budget-office-2015-long-term-budget-outlook

Total US Government Spending at all levels 2014
usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2014USbt_17bs2n#usgs302

Total US Government Revenue of all types and at all levels 2014
usgovernmentrevenue.com/piechart_2014_US_total

2014 income distribution of Whites, alone, not hispanic
census.gov/hhes/www/cpstables/032014/hhinc/hinc05R.xls

2014 “Who pays taxes”
ctj.org/pdf/taxday2014.pdf

2014 US Federal Budget
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_United_States_federal_budget

US Non-Hispanic Whites in 2012
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hispanic_whites#Population_by_state_or_territory

Nathaniel Harris
Nathaniel Harris

What is this thing you've got against "roundheads"? I see you posting here a lot, and you say this constantly

Joshua Phillips
Joshua Phillips

2) When it comes to social issues don't bother with foreign symbols, our founding documents and stock were far more racist anyway and much stricter than Hilter ever was.

Point out that non-whites were never eligible to become citizens and legally speaking should not be today according to the 1790 Naturalization Act. Point out that the Declaration of Independence was moralist propaganda tripe meant to divide the British parliament of the time and hamper their support for the war. Use colonial symbolism and if any uniforms were to be developed for civil servants base them on colonial garb perhaps including tricorn hats and smallswords as sidearms. Dark blue would be a good color as it was that of the continental army as would gray because of its association with the Confederacy which the majority of rural Americans support despite having no historic ties with it.

One thing you don't want to do with Americans is start appealing to morality and being "nice" or feeling shame for killing people. Especially the sort of Americans who are likely to provide the majority of support for a movement amiable to Zig Forums ideals. They honestly don't care about dead German children, they do care that they spent time and money fighting a war which didn't benefit them. They could be convinced that Germany should have been supported and Russia liberated form communism and turned into a Orthodox Christian monarchy again. But many of them utterly lack empathy(talking about the men here), they are the descendants of mercenaries and the warrior classes of the Anglos don't expect pity or remorse from them. But that is good in its own way, most of them are outright proud that we exterminated the injuns;always say injun never Native American as only whites can be Americans and America is the empire established by and for whites exclusively. If they had no fear of repercussions they would murder kikes and shitskins for free, whereas Germans in Germany would not. They are not ubermensch, have no interest in becoming that and frankly lack the capacity. But that is good because in their own way they are stronger, they are merciless reapers of lives: not warriors or soldiers but killers. In every conversation I have had with a rural American whether they are blue collar or high professional every one of them was amiable toward imperialism, protectionism, mercantilism, and profitable war. And that should be our anti-war push. These wars don't make money, we can't kill every Iraqi and empty their coffers into our treasury so what is the point of going to war? Ultimately the unspoken goal should be a Imperialist genocide of the Americas and a portion of South Africa for the sake of chromium reserves.

We can cut governmental costs by dropping all foreign aid, not only will this force Europe's situation to come to a head it will of course kill perhaps billions of mudmen the world over as we cut imports of essentially free food and medicine to them.

When dealing with Americans remember that they are not Prussians, nearly half are those who left because they were kicked out after the 30 years war or didn't like the way the cantons were heading. The Cavaliers left because they didn't like the kiked up results of the English Civil War which let kikes bodily back into Britain. The rest were huntmen, reactionaries who lost wars, those who had no place in society, ect. The best and the worst of Europe. And until 1965 67% of those who came to America left again, they were not compatible with the brutal and taciturn society which had developed in most areas.

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Joshua Carter
Joshua Carter

Americanism was never based on the love of one's people but rather the hatred of ones enemies, many of the educated ones still nurse wounds centuries old and seethe with bitterness over what they consider their denied birthright. Remember that nearly half the landed nobility and 90% of the squires were stripped of their titles and fled after the English civil war. These were the warriors of society and fumed with anger at being defeated by weaklings and pussies because they had more money to buy arms with thanks to Cromwell's kike backers. You could argue that the American Revolution had nothing to do with the ideals espoused by the exiled Roundheads found to liberal for England but rather was a continuation of the English Civil War due to the failure of the Cavalier Parliament to restore the previous order and the Kings siding with the Parliamentarians one too many times.

We should always appeal to the fact that all of America's problems can be laid at the feet of non-whites. Without them we would have almost no crime. Without kikes we would have nearly no economic bubbles. Without blacks and spics we would be the richest nation in the world with gold in our pockets rather than debt. Without the jews and liberals would practice imperialism and protectionism to ensure we remained the mightiest indefinitely and could take anything we wanted from a world which is rotting away around us. And when those kikes and faggots accuse of scapegoating then pull out the reams of statistical data which prove every one of our talking points. Use rhetoric and only resort to dry fact to make the opposition look like idiots. Appeal to hatred and a sense of our rightful inheritance stolen through no fault of our own except that we allowed weaklings, kikes, cunts, and muds to have any opportunities at all.

Matthew Martinez
Matthew Martinez

I think this makes sense. Even if your end goal is ethnonationalism this is really the only viable strategy. There are several steps one must take before arriving at a destination. You can't just skip to step 10(NatSoc) without going through steps 1-9. I imagine a pragmatic pathway to NatSoc as along these lines
generic nationalism (Trump)
immigration reform
generic awareness of JQ
generic non-racial fascism
promotion of Western Values (white values)
strong white identity emerges
strong black identity emerges (back to Africa, get in touch with roots movements, etc)
convince the blacks that Mexicans are taking their jobs. (whites + blacks push out Mexicans)
at the end of conflict, we either shake hands and separate, race war now, or coexist peacefully understanding that both out people won't mix. (who knows)
There will never be an 100% white ethnostate. It's not possible. But something along these lines could happen. To boost the white birthrate several things could be done…
financial incentives
land grants to white families. (Farms are birth factories for the best kind of white people).
pay minorities to leave
encourage black conquest into Mexico and South America.
set up fascist puppet states in Africa, while exporting /ourblacks/ to lead. (This is sort of a win-win)
The interesting thing about America being the most multicultural country on the planet is that it has given us the potential to become a Fascist training grounds for the rest of the world. We have every single minority. We could export world wide revolution if so desired. It would require training, education and financing. These are things America already does, but in reverse.
But the point is that NatSoc is not an overnight thing, it would likely be a progression of events.

Bentley Ortiz
Bentley Ortiz

Good post OP. It's very useful to look at how Hitler formed his coalition. Mein Kampf is a shit book for learning NSDAP policy, but a wonderful case study for how to create a movement in a divided country.

One huge difference is that Darre's farmer block that won Hitler the election no longer exists. Less than 2% of the US population is in agriculture now.

We also need to think about taking red as our color. It matches the GOP colors, pisses off commies by stealing their color, and is supposed to be the most attractive/assertive color. Too bad it clashes with green.

Michael Torres
Michael Torres

There will never be a 100% White ethnostate

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Julian Collins
Julian Collins

Unless you are just talking about America,
Yeah, even at our peak we were only 90% white.

William Fisher
William Fisher

They are proto-liberals, the expression of the genes we see now in white liberals during another age. And the ones who were most addicted to social signaling. They eventually became our self appointed "elite" on the East Coast even as the rest of America shunned them. They were the ones who became abolitionists, commies, suffragettes, and opened the borders. All while displaying utter contempt for the honest Americans who maintained the country.

Read about the English Civil War(Roundhead Parliamentarians vs Cavalier Royalists) and then later compare the fact that witch trials didn't happen until the modern age and only happened among the same populations which are now the most ardently liberal whites. These people are genetically predisposed to act like hall monitors constantly interfering in the business of other whites and demanding they be "moral" like them for the sake of signalling their own social status and orthodox opinions. That morality is of course dependent upon what is in vogue and changes like the wind. The only constant being that they are always willing to betray other whites for the sake of outgroups like kikes and shitskins.

This isn't something unique to the Anglos and exemplified in the Roundheads, but they are a very prominent example.

Daniel Gomez
Daniel Gomez

Yes, I was specifically talking about America.

Ethan Morgan
Ethan Morgan

Technically none of the them were Americans, remember that they didn't have any rights under the law they weren't even subjects but rather merely residents of the territory controlled by the USA.

That is a good way to fuck with conservative cucks, point out that their "respectable" shitskins aren't even American and can never be American.

Zachary Perez
Zachary Perez

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Adrian Morales
Adrian Morales

Interesting. I'll have to look into that
tfw your reading list is already about 1000 books long

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Brayden Moore
Brayden Moore

The issue is that niggers and spics will never go back because their nations are shitholes and privately they know they need to suck the tit of the state paid for by whites just to survive. It will come to civil war sooner or later.

And the whites we like already have the highest birthrate of any demographic in any industrialized nation. According to the General Social Survey the white republicans in the US have a birthrate of 2.7(more for "more conservative" respondents), the white Democrats a mere 0.9, kikes in America manage only 0.8, spics 1.6, niggers 1.3, mudslimes 1.7(even in Europe mudslime birthrates are below replacement), and asians(a nebulously defined group) just 1.0.

If the borders were closed now the whites we would would outbreed all the others they would already constitute 73% of the population right now if we had the demographics of 1945.The white liberals haven't had kids for 80 years and they are killing themselves with greater rapidity today.

That is actually my greatest critque of National Socialism. Its inherent triumphalism and coercion of the ignorant masses into adaptive behavior woudl remove the strong selective pressure against liberal whites which currently exists. It would make them behave like adaptive little boys and girls again. But to my mind that is merely kicking the can down the road. We don't want to save the liberals we want them dead so they can never happen again. Whether we kill them or they commit slow suicide is irrelevant so long as they are utterly exterminated. One could even argue that slow selective pressure is a more complete form of extermination than a crackdown which could miss some and drive them into hiding within society.

Jackson Cook
Jackson Cook

NatSoc is kicking the can down the road
I don't want to fix liberals…
You're just as bad as the post modernists who deconstruct ideas but offer no solution. Not anything even remotely pragmatic anyways…

Eli Morris
Eli Morris

lel

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Austin Nguyen
Austin Nguyen

Any political movement with the word "socialism" in it is poison.
shut the fuck up boomer

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross

You're on the wrong board, dude.

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Thomas Morris
Thomas Morris

3. Don't try to rehabilitate the Nazis.
shut the fuck up alt-kike faggot, go back to your containment forum.
Promote good Christians values and virtues.
christianity is semitic slave morality cancer
Be a hard-line ethnic nationalist
there is no such thing as ethnic nationalist, there is only nationalist.
5. Always market yourself as loving your own, never as hating the other.
< d-don't hate the enemy, goy!
Your highest goal must always be "freedom from Jewish globalism". People love freedom movements.
cute, the alt kike newfag thinks he understands the highest goals of nationalism
but don't allow it to degenerate into a violent/criminal organization.
< follow ZOG laws goy :^) just PR cuck like (((GI))) faggots
This is how Hitler made it,
NO IT IS IT HOW HITLER MADE IT, YOU BLUEPILLED ALT-KIKE FAGGOT
you don't have a fucking clue how Hitler won because all of your opinions are filtered through retarded, clueless alt kike e-celebs who want you to PR cuck yourself into obscurity
This will make me sound like a crazy when talking to normies. Can I just say "freedom from globalism"?
hownew.ru
no, you dribbling retard always name the jew. don't follow that faggots advice anyway, terrible.

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Dominic Morales
Dominic Morales

NO IT IS IT HOW HITLER MADE IT,
Not* lel

Carter Jackson
Carter Jackson

please continue

Robert Harris
Robert Harris

the more reasonable members of the black nationalist community
hyper religious cuckservative christtards
normalfag moderates
Eat shit and die, you nigger loved at. Hitler advocates the exact OPPOSITE of what you propose. Including enemies and ducks in our ranks will kill us. We do NOT ally with niggers. They want us dead and we should want them dead. Fuck your PRcuckery proposal, TRDosomits

Kevin Gutierrez
Kevin Gutierrez

I don't think you faggots realize how big of an opportunity the growing incel crisis is.
With femoids' increasing hypergamy, the number of involuntarily celibate men in the west is increasing exponentially each year.
You have literally hundreds of thousands (possibly millions) of young men who have literally nothing to live for and hate thots and degeneracy with a burning passion.
They only need a slight push to discover (((who))) is behind their suffering.

Henry Barnes
Henry Barnes

There were many communists who went with the NatSocs because they were the most viable party. It's about maintaining ideals but at the same time you have to be being pragmatic. Assuming that we do things your way no positive change would occur.
Let's consider the groups you seek to isolate
Christians
that's basically every single cuckservative in America. That's MILLIONS of white people. Even if they don't really practice Christianity, they would NOT associate with an ANTI-Christian group.
Black Nationalists
Once again, MILLIONS of Hi-Test violent people who DO NOT participate in the system. Why alienate them from your movement? Don't you see how potentially useful they could be in dismantling ZOG?
moderates
What movement doesn't have useful idiots? Even NatSoc Germany had plenty of people like this. The whole point of NatSoc is people! We love the people of our collective race, we don't abandon them simply because they're "moderates". kek.. You have much to learn about NatSoc, user. And you have much to learn about the world.
Do you really think that you could successfully implement a Whites only NatSoc society without Christians, cuckservatives, and moderates. That would leave us with maybe 5-10 percent of white people at best. I don't want to sound rude, but only a fucking idiot thinks this way. See this post This is the ONLY way it will happen, if it happens.

Jackson Nelson
Jackson Nelson

Hmm

We get spammed by shills trying to nuke or social proof/social acceptability via sex based D&C by labelling us as incels (as if). Maybe they are preemptively preventing us from recruiting actual NEETs?

Maybe we should promote NS in r9k and other incel communities? Not invite them here, but make them convert and radicalize their apolitical incel forums

Angel Fisher
Angel Fisher

The behaviors we express are 93% based on inheritable traits, that is reality. If we didn't have these faggots and traitors we would not be in this mess.

Where would America be if every white was as heartless and cruel as the ones I deal with every day? What if they had zero empathy(I can't wait to here the bitching about that one but it is true) and instead just cared about their families? What ever nobody gave a shit if a billion mudslimes were exterminated by some crusader host or three hundred million spics and injuns were shot by an imperial army? What would that world look like? I think it would look better. Yes perhaps they have eye for beauty, maybe they are dour and see life as an endless struggle to endure in stoic silence rather than an triumphal joy like german idealism wanted to portray it. But you know what? They would kill 6 million kikes and those ubermensch wouldn't.

And I did offer a solution, let them kill themselves off, don't induce them to breed. If we eliminate the spics, niggers, and kikes then there is no danger in having the pussy caste die off and leave only the bastards.

Blake Peterson
Blake Peterson

r9k, incels.me, and any other incel containment zone
These guys are already almost redpilled, they just need that extra push

Levi King
Levi King

Like I said, not even remotely pragmatic. I'm not an optics cuck, but your views are that of a comic book villain.
The behaviors we express are 93% based on inheritable traits.
If that's the case, then why are the children of great people so often mediocre?

Xavier Gray
Xavier Gray

Needs more replies, we need to make nationalist/populist groups that do things similar to what the Golden Dawn and Soldiers of Odin have done. We win the hearts and minds of our people and even sympathetic non-whites by protecting and helping the most vulnerable of this evil society. i.e. the heroin and opium epidemic is hitting mostly the white working class, which was (((their))) goal.

Jayden Young
Jayden Young

Kek, you're the exact kind of retard that the right wing doesn't need.

Xavier Rogers
Xavier Rogers

implying active leftists aren't degenerate rejects and outcasts who found themselves getting free ideological subversion bucks and asspats from braindead iPhone addicts and don't know what to do with it
Your observation is a good one, however it's one is both incomplete and one that was made 50 years ago by George Lincoln Rockwell and Pierce.

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Jaxon Hill
Jaxon Hill

I ironically wan't the blacks to go fascist in America for this exact reason. Imagine what you could do with 10 million angry nogs…Give them a little discipline and you could go pretty far. I'm not sure it's possible, but…what if?

Jayden Young
Jayden Young

Hitler was BLACK
WE WUZ FUHRERS N SHIET

At the very least it would be hilarious

Joshua Cook
Joshua Cook

Idi Amin 2: The Sequeling

Aaron Torres
Aaron Torres

And when you're done using them in America, you can get rid of them by sending them south towards Brazil. You tell 'em pillage and loot all you want boys. Then you lock the door when they leave.

Joshua Barnes
Joshua Barnes

It's not an insane idea. If you look at Rhodesia, many blacks were in Rhodesia's army fighting to expel mugabe and the other assorted scum. In the end Rhodesia lost, but that doesn't change the fact that they used blacks effectively. It would definitely be possible to use some blacks in this way, but in North America blacks absolutely fucking hate us. They even hate shitlibs but love their gibs.

Cameron Roberts
Cameron Roberts

they hate us
This is true. That's why they would have to be united under black nationalism first. If our morals and goals are similar and our enemies are the same, I think we could do bidness with them. Think about the Nation of Islam, Faraquan (spelling?) is basically the walking black version of Zig Forums. I think you could cut a deal with a guy like that. Maybe in the end you tell him something like "we'll conquer X mineral rich country in Africa and put you guys in charge there" Give them a sweet deal. Maybe even allow certain industries to to there so they are financially well off. It would be a win-win. They get a semi prosperous ethnostate. (which has a huge military presence under our control) and we get to deport 10 million or so happy blacks.

Henry Scott
Henry Scott

All we need to do is give them a 100 year loan and write it off as an expense of doing war. Never expect them to pay it back but give them enough so that they can sustain their little banana republic for at least one generation.

I've seen relatively smart blacks on Zig Forums before. Not all blacks are niggers imo and we should take all the help we can get. This war effort might be quick or WW3 depending on what the kikes do. Either way, I would rather fight alongside them than against them AND the jews.

Charles Rodriguez
Charles Rodriguez

The loan idea is a good idea. We're in agreement, I'd take anyone that wants to side with me. Also… observed.

John Diaz
John Diaz

The question is, how does the black community achieve fascist unity? Through Rap music? Appreciation of fascistic aesthetics? Religion? Understanding of the JQ? Where do they begin? They are the sleeping giant in America. There is no force of greater change for a community than that of the blacks. The Jews realized this and now we need to harness this force of change for ourselves. So back to the question. How is it done?

Chase Martin
Chase Martin

children of great people so often mediocre?
Have you never heard of regression to the mean? I'm honestly baffled you haven't given we are on Zig Forums, it is exemplified by the children of "intelligent" niggers being closer to common niggers. Great individuals are often one off mutations rather than the culmination of breeding trends through time thus it is unlikely that the unique combination of traits which formed them will reoccur when only half their genome is mixed with that of their mate who may themselves not be exceptional, women in particular cluster about the mean in the first place and thus it is often hard to assess their quality as breeding stock without seeing the outcomes or having some long standing selective pressure.

You just compared an individual instance to the collect trend of millions, which is a basic liberal/libertardian mistake.

heroin and opium epidemic is hitting mostly the white working class, which was (((their)))
More accurately it is hitting the lowest 2% of whites who are "non-working class" just like 80% of niggers and spics. It is an issue as it appears to be deliberate but most of the victims are trash who voted democrat to begin with because they wanted gibs just like a nigger.

The actual working class whites don't often have problems like that. Indeed due to drug policies enforced by employers you cannot really get employed in rural America if habitually use drugs.

Kevin Russell
Kevin Russell

Niggers seem to be quite easy to rule.
Look at the gangs that they would die for and study how and why niggers join them.

Luis Davis
Luis Davis

The JQ and jew weapons sales to Africa. If we can prove that cultural marxism, propaganda and the ZOG has been repressing blacks and sabotaging their societies (think FDI, think corruption, think foreign exploitation and feeding wild animals syndrome) then blacks will rise! Blacks can and must wake up to chaim's view and manipulation of them. Chaim is why blacks do not have eugenics, like was planned, filtering out their retard population and helping them ascend.

ABSOLUTELY VITAL 100% IMPORTANT REDPILL HOLY SHIT user THIS IS IMPORTANT CHECK IT OUT NOT EVEN KIDDING:

See the end of the CFR interview where they mention us. The jew justifies (((US Government))) propaganda to an African 90+ IQ nog and he gets pissed off so the jew shuts it down forcefully.

Aiden Cook
Aiden Cook

There is no force of greater change for a community than that of the blacks

Why are you here?

Jacob King
Jacob King

The idea of allying with black nationalists died out with Rockwell. They are too addicted to gibs and hating whitey now to help us. So take your nigger loving shit elsewhere.

Xavier Garcia
Xavier Garcia

Perhaps we can promote more of the recent racist comments a israeli MP said about 'jews being the chosen race'.

Lincoln Torres
Lincoln Torres

why are you here
the OP is about how to implement Fascism. My advice is arguably the best starting point there is to achieve Fascism. ZOG would quake in their boots with Fascist blacks against them.
How do you not understand the utility of having 10million+ blacks fight for you? It's not too complicated, it's either you fight them directly, or you have them do your bidding. One way is retarded the other is comfy. The idea didn't die with Rockwell either, ideas can't die you fucking retard. The type of people who say shit like that say things like "Hitler killed Nationalism". Fuck off with your blackpill shit…If anything because of the fact they are on gibs it makes them even more useful, they don't have anything to lose, they are guaranteed an income whether they out themselves to the public or not. Blacks are the ultimate ally and tool.

Andrew Baker
Andrew Baker

Blacks will never side with us.
Any effort to do so is bullshit and counterproductive.
The end goal is White countries for White people and only White people.
Blacks will not support this goal. They are parasites.
The black community loves to talk big, but the reality is that they want gibs and "reparations," not separation and independence.
They would not pick up a rifle and fight with us.
If they did arm themselves in some sort of "civil conflict" situation then they would be more of a hindrance than a help as they would immediately loot and pillage whenever the opportunity arose.
They would destroy everything unless forced not too. Just like today.
The stupid blacks have been told their whole lives that "whitey is to blame" and that they deserve more welfare and free stuff. The smarter blacks know that if they went back to Africa that they would be starving to death in squalor within a few years. Of course, the smarter blacks use "black power" culture to gain prestige and status within the black community, even if they know that it is a load of shit.
The difference between black nationalists and White nationalists is that White nationalists are serious about wanting separation. The blacks are serious about wanting more welfare.
No.
Just no.
Cut off all gibs.
Send them all to either Liberia or Brazil.
By force.

Gavin Long
Gavin Long

look at the gangs that they would die for
That's why they are so valuable. They love violence and crave military order. A gang provides them with a hyper-masculine outlet. We need to channel that violent warrior spirit for our own aims.
prove that cultural marxism etc has been repressing blacks
this might work. Tell them that there is a conspiracy to turn their men into homosexuals and destroy black identity and so on…That would be pretty funny and I think effective.

Juan Diaz
Juan Diaz

Fuck off TRS retard. The niggers will never bite the hand that feeds them (Kikes and White egalitarian liberals). All blacks want is what the white man has. They don't believe in any higher ideals, like the ones that Fascism (Which is philosemitic, race blind garbage anyway) and National Socialism promote.

Henry Morales
Henry Morales

More non-constructive criticism
I too am NatSoc, but I take a pragmatic approach. I don't believe there will be some glorious revolution of blinding whiteness that will purify the lands anytime soon. I think it will be a step by step by step systematic approach where deals are made with various groups eventually leading to something that resembles a white NatSoc country. This is how the leftists achieved their goal of a MultiCulti shithole. there was no Commie revolution, it was incrementalism.

You know my perspective. Now how about you tell me how a white NatSoc Utopia will be achieved?

Nathan Bailey
Nathan Bailey

Literally the only way you will get a National Socialist, or hell, pro-White government in America is through a race war, limited nuclear exchange, plague,etc.
Tell me how you will get tens of blacks to collaborate with you when they have had "HATE WHITEY" and "WHITEY IS THE CAUSE OF ALL YOUR PROBLEMS" drummed into their heads for 70+ years?

William Robinson
William Robinson

**tens of millions

William Bennett
William Bennett

race war, nuclear exchange, plague, etc
kek good luck with that. Well,go with your Armageddon route and I'll give the radicalizing the darkies route a try and we can come back to this conversation in a couple of years. For the mean time I'm going to keep shilling this idea here.

Jaxon Wilson
Jaxon Wilson

Good luck . I'm sure the based niggers will kill you last.

Grayson Rivera
Grayson Rivera

Fascists will not become popular, people dont want to die in future hitler maniac’s world conquest war… fuck collectivism. Fascists are just as bad as commies. social democracy is the future.

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Jayden Rodriguez
Jayden Rodriguez

Oh hey, its you from the crimea thread. Should have figured you were a lolberg.

Evan Reyes
Evan Reyes

Fascists will not become popular, people dont want to die in future hitler maniac’s world conquest war
Until they realize who Hitler really was.

Jordan Johnson
Jordan Johnson

thas right, we gonna end degeneracy fo good dis time

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Josiah Martin
Josiah Martin

Fascists will not become popular
<social democracy is the future.
You'd shit your pants if you knew the rate of conversion I, and probably other Anons, have been seeing in normalfags. We're growing stronger everyday as you grow weaker. You'll find out soon enough.

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Samuel Richardson
Samuel Richardson

One of the reasons for these shortcomings was that sections were made by companies having little experience with shipbuilding,
Literally learning how to control and maximize the quality of an invention. Of course many models of the time were hard to build and poorly designed. Yet those same examples are used as how to NOT build u-boats. It is about learning and discovering, efficiency and practicality.

Hitler was just as nepotistic and retarded as the fucking Jews.
go die in a fire jew.

Jacob Cooper
Jacob Cooper

old.reddit.com/r/NatSoc/
old.reddit.com/r/DebateFascism/
Since, we're on the topic of fascism, I thought I would show you something that seems shocking

Reddit actually has subs to talk about fascism/natsoc. Just goes to show it's spreading to normalfag sites
inb4 go back to reddit

Austin Evans
Austin Evans

I'm just saying, don't use the NAME "Nazi" or "Fascist" they've become pejorative terms, with far too much baggage.

This should not be controversial.

Doing this in 21st-century America is like Hitler parading around Weimar Germany with a Confederate flag shouting about "Southron pride".

Take that ridiculous image, and then imagine that Germany also fought a brutal war with the Confederacy within living memory, and that German children have been trained to despise the Confederacy and its symbols since birth.

It's retarded.

Ayden Thompson
Ayden Thompson

I'm fine with Optics cucks and Open NatSocs. My only criteria is that they don't interfere with each other or go against each other in public. I just don't want to see Optics cucks openly disavowing NatSocs or anything like that.

Christopher Watson
Christopher Watson

t. brainlet alt-kike faggot
Fascists will not become popular, people dont want to die in future hitler maniac’s world conquest war… fuck collectivism. Fascists are just as bad as commies. social democracy is the future.
t. low energy (((leftypol))) shill
t. cowardly alt kike faggot

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Brody Torres
Brody Torres

This is actually closer to my position. I'm fine with what the NSM does, and what GLR did back in the day. But "everyone MUST use a swastika and openly pledge allegiance to Hitler or else they are CUCK" is shit policy.

The important thing is that if you're going to use NS symbols you have to represent them WELL. You should also not mix optics-conscious WNs with open NatSocs.

A good example was the recent NSM rally in Georgia, where the NSM behaved lawfully and spread their message, while antifa sperged out and got arrested en masse for wearing masks and assaulting cops. NS came out looking better that day.

Nicholas Morris
Nicholas Morris

oy vey, the goym are awakening
let's tell them to present themselves as nazis, that will sink them
Nazism on the internet is just jews sabotaging whites. You say the word and the public at large immediately disregards you like a fool

Carson Diaz
Carson Diaz

Are you the "White Nationalism is White Genocide" spammer?

James Rivera
James Rivera

Nazism
Oh how I love our fine moderation!

Ian Baker
Ian Baker

Like this. This reasoning is how I also became a fascist.

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Juan Young
Juan Young

It doesn't matter that the Founders were racist. They supported liberalism, democracy, and "natural rights". They were the antithesis of National Socialism.

Sebastian Gonzalez
Sebastian Gonzalez

see OP's image
brain says it's a Smash Ball on glance

This E3 has done things to me.

Carter Nguyen
Carter Nguyen

they supported liberalism and democracy
How's 5th grade going, little Billy?

Dominic Campbell
Dominic Campbell

National Socialism or nothing. Hitler or Hell.

Jason Clark
Jason Clark

If it wants to gain followers, a Fascist movement cannot only appeal to 4chan autists and people who are far-right already

WOW, such insight. Much US college debt. So worthless his political degree.

We need all sorts of people to succeed.

Here comes the sales pitch for, 'not all spics and niggers are bad guize herp derp'. Nothing wrong with having two dads.

The more reasonable members of the Black Nationalist community

Whoop, there it is and where I stop reading. Kill yourself, OP.

Jason Brooks
Jason Brooks

National Socialism or nothing
Like wtf. I voted for Trump, where's my National Socialism. What's with this cuck nationalism shit. OMG he still hasn't deported all the juice. He's a fraud. (which he very well might be)
If everyone thought like you NOTHING would ever get done. You won't get NatSoc overnight, you won't get NatSoc through revolution, you won't get NatSoc through Nuclear Armageddon. You have to go through the steps. You need to ease people back into Nationalism. How do you not understand that? Guess what the first step is? CivCuck Nationalism. Thassss right.

Alexander Powell
Alexander Powell

Did Germany go through a civcuck phase before NatSoc?

James Ortiz
James Ortiz

user, you can't compare the two. The situation couldn't be any dissimilar. Germany was pretty much 100% huwhite, while America is a multiculti shithole right now. Back then Nationalism was pretty fucking normal, nobody would bat an eye if you said Germany is for Germans! or America for white men of good character! etc…Nationalism has been beaten into the dust, it must reemerge slowly enough for people to digest. We are like a skiddish horse that's been abused. You can't just jump on it, it'll throw you off and freak the fuck out. You have to pet it, gently whisper into it's ear, feed it an apple and then mount it. What I'm trying to say is that just plain old shitty generic Nationalism will be hard enough to make the norm, let alone full blown National Socialism. Keep in mind there's been almost 100 fucking years of brainwashing in ALL aspects of our lives, political, media, literature, education, etc to slander any form of Nationalism.

Liam Moore
Liam Moore

P.S. Germany didn't have to go through a civcuck phase because they were already an ethnostate…

Lincoln Gonzalez
Lincoln Gonzalez

When do we take the guns?

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Levi Thompson
Levi Thompson

Did Germany go through a civcuck phase before NatSoc?
No, they went through a Rhodesia phase, even though Rhodesia came much later.

If you catch my drift.

P.S.:
Rhodesia didn't make it.
P.P.S.:
Unlike Germany.

Chase Reed
Chase Reed

Are you saying that the hu'whites in Rhodesia would've somehow been better off without black support?

Jack Russell
Jack Russell

t. brainlet alt-kike faggot
You've had 70+ years of Neo-Nazi revival and you've accomplished nothing. Time to seek new idols with a cleaner slate.

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William Kelly
William Kelly

3. Don't try to rehabilitate the Nazis.
What said. Go watch some Red Ice videos you alt-kike faggot.

Camden Cox
Camden Cox

The same way we came around. En masse.

Xavier Peterson
Xavier Peterson

social democracy
It is literally the fucking EU you dumb fuck. 12 years of Hitler over a lifetime under your subhuman slave system.

Jace Robinson
Jace Robinson

You've had 70+ years of Neo-Nazi revival and you've accomplished nothing.

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Ayden Howard
Ayden Howard

That's a valid argument, I don't care if you put this in your comic or not.
You are a failure, and Hitler was a failure too, the sooner you understand this the better for you. If you want to remain stupid go ahead, I'm not an American so I couldn't care less.

Adam Myers
Adam Myers

I'm German you fucking vermin.
Hitler was a failure
Yeah, sure he was. Take a hike back to reddit.

Jace Johnson
Jace Johnson

You're probably that salty faggot from the nick Fuentes thread.

Aaron Martin
Aaron Martin

I'm German you fucking vermin.
kek, enjoy your cucked country
no

Michael James
Michael James

How is that real communism/anarchism thing going? Pretty sure Lenin and Stalin were a lot closer to communism than your kind.

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

what are IDs

Connor Robinson
Connor Robinson

This. I'd be willing to use them if we could send them all to Africa afterwards in exchange for the Boers/Afrikaner

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Aiden Watson
Aiden Watson

Here, use this for bugmen disgust.

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Jackson Long
Jackson Long

WILL SOMEONE KILL THESE NOTSEE FAGGOTS ALREADY.

THEY ARE THE CAUSE OF WHITE GENOCIDE. AND THE JEWS' TRUMP CARD.

Ryder Carter
Ryder Carter

Exactly!

Easton Morris
Easton Morris

Hi Schlomo!

Jace Wilson
Jace Wilson

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Caleb Perez
Caleb Perez

Just like this board and site. All run by Jews. StormTards are too stupid to understand this.

Blake Williams
Blake Williams

Are you the Jew that keeps supporting Nadsees?

Xavier Bennett
Xavier Bennett

Gypsies rape babies literally caused the death of the 6th army in Stalingrad.
Your entire "people" are lower than the poles, which is quite an achievement in itself.

Ryan Garcia
Ryan Garcia

cultural marxism is unnatural.

We will create The Thousand Year Space Reich.

Nicholas Rivera
Nicholas Rivera

That isn't loss.

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Jack Harris
Jack Harris

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Jack Turner
Jack Turner

antislide

Anthony Allen
Anthony Allen

bumping a thread last posted in 5 days ago with no content
implying not sliding

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Elijah Murphy
Elijah Murphy

axios.com/israel-united-states-pressure-iranian-government-protests-e820d144-302c-40ec-8d31-88c2abd09640.html

Couldn't find the proper thread for this but this is a reminder for those who still assume that the US gov isn't kiked.