Ancient Chinese skull suggests humans may have come out of Africa AND Asia

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Ancient Chinese skull suggests humans may have come out of Africa AND Asia

The origins of our species might need a rethink. An analysis of an ancient skull from China suggests it is eerily similar to the earliest known fossils of our species -found in Morocco, some 10,000 kilometres to the west. The skull hints that modern humans aren't solely descended from African ancestors, as is generally thought.

Most anthropologists believe, based on fossil evidence, that our species arose in Africa around 200,000 years ago. What's more, genetic studies of modern humans indicate that we are all descended from a single population that left Africa within the last 120,000 years and spread around the world. This African group is the source of all modern human genes, barring a few gained by interbreeding with other species like Neanderthals.

However, the Dali skull may not fit this story. Discovered in China's Shaanxi Province in 1978, it is remarkably complete, preserving both the face and the brain case. A study published in April concluded the skull is about 260,000 years old.

When researchers first described the Dali skull in 1979, they assumed it belonged to Homo erectus. This hominin species arrived in South-East Asia 1.8 million years ago and probably disappeared from the region by about 140,000 years ago. That fits with the standard story.

But by 1981, Xinzhi Wu at the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing had noticed that the Dali skull's face had many features in common with our species, Homo sapiens. This suggested that H. erectus in east Asia might have contributed to the origin of H. sapiens. In other words, at least some of the DNA in living humans might have come from Asian H. erectus.

Today many researchers reject this idea, because it contradicts the standard out-of-Africa model. But Wu - and Sheela Athreya at Texas A&M University in College Station - say we still don't have a complete understanding of the origin of H. sapiens. The pair have reanalysed the Dali skull and compared it with other hominin skulls, including H. erectus and early H. sapiens.

They found that the Dali skull is similar to two H. sapiens skulls found in the 1960s at Jebel Irhoud in Morocco. "I really wasn't expecting that," says Athreya.

Earlier this year, researchers at Jebel Irhoud found pieces of a third H. sapiens skull and dated the fossils to roughly 315,000 years ago. This dramatically pushed back the origin of our species by 115,000 years. Like the Dali skull, the Jebel Irhoud skulls have H. sapiens-like faces but their brain cases look more primitive.

The Moroccan skulls fit neatly with the idea that H. sapiens evolved solely in Africa, emerging from populations of hominins living in that continent. But Athreya says the Dali skull suggests the story might have been more complicated.

It's possible, she says, that the hominins in Africa weren't genetically isolated from those in Eurasia. The small-scale movements of individual hominins - like young adults leaving the family group and joining a neighbouring one - could collectively have allowed genes to flow right across Africa and Eurasia.

Under this scenario, the genetic features of H. sapiens that appeared in Morocco 315,000 years ago could have cropped up in individuals - like the Dali skull's owner - living in China 260,000 years ago, says Athreya.

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There is another implication. "I think gene flow could have been multidirectional, so some of the traits seen in Europe or Africa could have originated in Asia," says Athreya.

In other words, some features associated with H. sapiens could in principle have originated in east Asia, before being carried to Africa. If that is true, our origins are not exclusively African.

The alternative explanations are that H. sapiens left Africa far earlier than we thought, reaching China by 260,000 years ago, which contradicts the genetic evidence, or that Asian H. erectus separately evolved some of the traits of modern humans, but these "proto-humans" left no descendants.

Comparing the Dali and Moroccan skulls is instructive, says John Hawks at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is open to the idea that the Dali individual belonged to the ancestral population that evolved into our species. "In a real sense we are talking about a multiregional population, connected recurrently by migration and genetic exchanges," he says. However, he says we need more data to be sure.

The Dali skull does have similarities to the Moroccan skulls, but not enough to support Athreya's ideas, says Chris Stringer at the Natural History Museum in London. "And when it comes to the vast amount of genetic data, it becomes very difficult to give China a significant role in modern human origins."

Still, Stringer doesn't dismiss the idea of genes from Eurasia being a factor in the origin of H. sapiens. "I'm open to Asian-African connections at this time, but western Asia-Africa, not further afield," he says.

Journal reference: American Journal of Physical Anthropology, DOI: 10.1002/ajpa.23305

I wish the Jews would get their fucking story straight already

You're telling me different human hominids where walking around the earth and evolving separately from one another in different climates? No way.

Im starting to think nobody fucking knows where we came from

Aliens

It's in the Vatican. If you want to know.

Reminder that the earth is a cube and not a sphere

And we never will. Time travel to the past is science fiction, so we will never know for sure what happened.
Just pick the theory you enjoy the most and that's that. There's tons of them.

lol

WE WUZ CONFUSUS

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WE WUZ CHINKZ AN SHEET

Everytime they find new skull they claim it's from there. Useless shit and doesn't benefit anyone.

I kek'd

First, the idea that humans not only evolve, but come from niggerland of all places is so hilariously stupid, it could only originate in the diseased lump of evil that jews call their brains.
Second, the idea that a trustworthy fossil could come from the bughive, a place famous for schemeing little criminals who fabricate fossils for cash, is so galactically stupid, it makes the first one seem plausible.

not only is it science fiction, it's actually completely impossible physics wise although you can speed up time. Only thing that is possible is looking into the past.

Come to think of it, once we get quantum data and wormholes online we could possibly look into the past, correct?

>But by 1981, Xinzhi Wu at the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing had noticed
Shinese work is not reliable.

Just like Holohoax.

I bet you think the Library of Alexandria was burned with the books inside.

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Not surprising. They been detecting homo erectus introgression in East Asian gene pools since 2004. A weak multiregional model is supplanting out of Africa fuckery little by little.

Don't forget, the "racist" physical anthropologists of the late 19th century were never actually refuted.

So does this skull make Asians Homo Confusus? My brain hurts.

Be very sceptical of all Chinese anthropological claims, the Chinese always pull tricks in order to advance ridiculous Chinese supremacy claims

Honestly if there is one part of the world where you have to be super skeptical of claims made by anthropology departments, it's the super pozzed and boazian controlled west.

t. Chinaman
you're right though, you've got to investigate everything now days if you want to know the truth

Chinese accept the reality of race and Jewish controlled western anthropology departments continue to actively deny it. Chinese are at the forefront of developing new multiregional theories that fit the archeogenetic record. Western anthropology departments still push strict OOA.

Nuff said.

Chinese are at the forefront of claiming the whole world as Greater China due to retarded ancestral claims, you mean. If you aren't Chinese you're pretty naive. The Chinese are called the jews of east Asia for a reason

Out Of Kaifeng, We Wuz Ping Zhang

Get the fuck out of here, jew.Humans evolved in Eurasia, then entered Africa. Get your juden propaganda to cuckchan. This is 8/pol/.

dailysabah.com/history/2017/10/20/97-million-year-old-teeth-fossils-discovered-in-germany
bgr.com/2017/10/20/human-history-fossil-teeth-germany-discovery/
news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/10/ancient-teeth-found-germany-dont-rewrite-human-history-science/

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And no one actually cares, because the argument only benefits Jews

I don't understand what's your beef with Africa as a place, sure humans early ancestors may have come from Eurasia somewhere, but even if they came from Africa they were NOT the 7 foot tall musclechodes that niggers today are.

The problem is that media tries to imply niggers to be the original homo sapiens which they aren't, they interbreed with other hominids and they evolved in the harshest conditions on earth among the most dangerous megafauna thus making them more beastly than other races.

Out of Africa is the greatest myth of our time.

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holocaust myth is bigger.

I once tried to use this line back in high school to benefit from affirmative action.

Different continents, different species. That is the point here. Niggers are of different SPECIES. They are Homo Erectus species. Not Homo Sapiens, but Homo Erectus. To some degre hybridicised with Homo Sapiens.

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If that was true then wouldn't that have massive implications towards life off our planet?

We did come from africa as far as we know.. "whites" just left and evolved separately. Africans left and became asian. Island 80k years old without outside contact to the rest of the world, the half way point between africa and asian near the coast, is a group of people that literally look half gook half nigger. See "asians" left afrixa like "whites" and went somewhere else and eloved differently. According to this research it seems to have happened much longer ago and there was actually travel back and forth. If you know human history I dont see how this research is that surprising. Could suggest origins of humanoid first happened outside of Africa which is interesting. Who knows what happened..

Neanderthals werent Jews you dumbass. You are either low IQ, new , or a shill if you think neanderthals are jew. They are whites. Whites came from admixture of them. Last pure neatherals were about 10k-12k years ago. Not long. Jew want to claim neatherthal cause neanderthals were awesome. Asians also have neatheral genes. Only caucasoids and asians have them mixed in. Niggers do not.

..as far jews brainwashed you

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No, user, no. White people didn't come from anywhere near Africa. Africa is where DNA goes to die.

this is either a kike poster or just ignorant, whites came from cro magnons, and jews have the highest admixture of neanderthal genes in the world

According to Sitchin, Enki (the Sumerian god of water and human culture) suggested that to relieve the Anunnaki, who had mutinied over their dissatisfaction with their working conditions, that primitive workers (Homo sapiens) be created by genetic engineering as slaves to replace them in the gold mines by crossing extraterrestrial genes with those of Homo erectus. According to Sitchin, ancient inscriptions report that the human civilization in Sumer, Mesopotamia, was set up under the guidance of these "gods", and human kingship was inaugurated to provide intermediaries between mankind and the Anunnaki (creating the "divine right of kings" doctrine). Sitchin believes that fallout from nuclear weapons, used during a war between factions of the extraterrestrials, is the "evil wind" described in the Lament for Ur that destroyed Ur around 2000 BC. Sitchin states the exact year is 2024 BC. Sitchin says that his research coincides with many biblical texts, and that biblical texts come originally from Sumerian writings.

the Jews are awaiting the return of Enki and have been gathering all of the worlds gold

Here we go again.

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this is factual

Doesn't mean they 'were black'…blacks are a relatively new admixture on Earth since they are only 30,000 years old. The faggot kikes like to jerk themselves off with their 'black monkey roots' because in their case IT IS LITERALLY TRUE…kikes values, religion and culture come straight out of Africa…so when they say 'We came from monkeys' THEY ARE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT THEMSELVES…but not about us as we share no 'black DNA' with them and their 'black nobility' ←-sarc…as IF nobility could ever come from kike niggers…they are the antithesis of nobility (and this should be patently obvious due to their 'values' which are nigger values originating out of africa) which can only come from Aryan stock (as the children of God).

Anywho…there is no evidence in the slightest that the people who inhabited the North 'we black' when they came out of Africa (except the nigger jews)…as a matter of fact given that all the other races have nothing in common with nogs DNA it is more than likely that the people who came 'out of africa' where Denisovian or Neaderthal…I mean I come from the USA but that doesn't mean I am Native American…I carry only Ethnic European DNA. So, coming out of a place has no bearing on your genetic makeup..,sorry about the spelling, typos guys…I am remote right now and this screen is moving and real tiny because I am in a car.

No they don't. Jews have about the same amount of neanderthal dna as white Europeans. Certain groups of Asians and Native Americans have more than any other race.

There was a conversation on this that happened months back that was really crazy. Never seen something like it here before. Wish I screenshot it or could even find the original so I can go back and screenshot it but all that is left are the screenshots another user took. Do you guys remember the user people started calling Satananon back from October?

Our ancestors mated with another species of ancient hominins, the Denisovans, on at least two occasions. The discovery suggests that Denisovans were widely across Asia, and apparently co-existed happily with modern humans, to the point of having children with them in two different parts of the ancient world.

The Denisovans were unknown until 2010, when researchers described a fragment of a girl's finger bone found in Denisova cave in Siberia. Soon afterwards, researchers sequenced its genome from the surviving DNA. The DNA did not belong to any known hominins, such as Neanderthals, so it had to be something new.

What's more, around 5 per cent of the DNA of some Australasians - particularly people from Papua New Guinea - is Denisovan. Humans evidently mated with Denisovans 50,000 or more years ago.

But this posed a puzzle: why were the present-day descendants of Denisovans so far from the Denisovans' Siberian home? The simplest explanation was that Denisovans lived throughout much of Asia, including South East Asia, not just Siberia.

Sharon Browning of the University of Washington in Seattle and her colleagues have now found evidence of a second instance of human-Denisovan interbreeding - on the Asian mainland.

Hidden in the genes

Browning's team used a new technique to trawl for segments of ancient DNA in the genomes of 5600 living humans from Europe, Asia, America and Oceania. The chunks of older DNA stand out because they are unusually rich in mutations, which would have built up for hundreds of thousands of years in the genomes of Denisovans, but would not have been present in the human lineage. So when humans and Denisovans mated, their children would inherit these mutation-rich regions of DNA.

After Browning had isolated the ancient DNA, she then used the reference genomes of Denisovans and Neanderthals to establish where it came from. She found that some East Asians carry Denisovan DNA, especially Han Chinese, Chinese Dai and Japanese people.

But this Denisovan DNA is distinct from that carried by Australasians. It is more closely related to the Denisovan sample. "Although the Papuans ended up with more Denisovan ancestry, it turns out to be less similar to the sequenced Denisovan," says Browning.

The upshot is that Denisovans bred with modern humans in at least two places: in east Asia, and further south-east in Indonesia or Australasia. "Our research demonstrates that there were at least two distinct populations of Denisovans living in Asia, probably somewhat geographically distant," says Browning.

"The fact that two episodes of interbreeding occurred suggests that at least in some instances, Denisovans and modern humans were willing to live in proximity and interact," says Browning.

As well as mating with Denisovans, there is strong evidence that humans interbred with Neanderthals, which were a sister species to the Denisovans.

"This new work is important because for the first time it unambiguously demonstrates a third interbreeding [of modern with ancient hominins]," says David Reich of Harvard Medical School in Boston. "Up to this point, we only had data for two." There have been claims of a second, earlier instance of interbreeding with Neanderthals, but not everyone is convinced.

Tantalisingly, breeding with Neanderthals and Denisovans may not be the end of our ancestors' promiscuity. A quarter of the chunks of ancient DNA that Browning found in living humans didn't match either Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA. So we may have also had children with other, unidentified hominins.

"At this point, we have no way of knowing if these derive from an as-yet-unknown archaic group, or are simply false positives," says Svante Pääbo of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany.

Journal reference: Cell, DOI: 10.1016/j.cell.2018.02.031

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Native niggers are the shortest species of human. Even the chinks are bigger by an inch or so. And R-selection negates any benefits the intense environment would have had on them.
The Americanized negroid only has larger specimens because of recent racemixing. Take a peek at their DNA and it would be something around, 60%, 70% nigger.

no shit, it's obvious to anyone that know about neanderthal dna in modern human populations (lacking in africa completely)
which is obvious to people that know about haplogroups, it's been known for years now that whites came out of the eurasian steppes and split into two groups R1a slavs who went east and the R1b whites that went west and settled all the way into Spain

0/10 D&C kikeposting

Satananon called them "half breeds". All I have are a few screenshots someone else took but trying to find the archived post. It was interesting and had tongues wagging.

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Forever Anonymous.

Very true, user, very true.

Denisovan loli

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Nobody has thought this since the Human Genome Project. New Scientist is run by niggers.

Haplogroups A and B are the non-bantu Africans such as the Khoisan.
Haplogroups C and D are actual East and South Asians
Haplogroup E is Bantu Africans and is not related to the A, B, C, and D Haplogroups
Haplogroup F is South Aians
Haploparagroup GHIJK does not exist:
This is how they falsely connect what are clearly different apes that were never the same human but were maybe once the same ape group.

Following this we get the claim that:
Haplogroup R (Europeans) and it's sibling Haplogroup Q (Mongolians/Amerindians) the children of Haplogroup P (Filipinos)
See how much bullshit the out-of-africa theory is.

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Thanks for link, I am bookmarking/downloading the archive now…important as more and more of the archive is under fire from jew diddling to cover their non-stop lying.

Yes. A. Afarensis (Lucy)

Isn't the woman in the second pic Capoid rather than Congoid? What was the reason behind Khoisans having eurasian DNA again?

Found the first archive from that thread that went on through several posts. In the other posts they wrote a whole lot on "Erdah". I dont remember the exact words but it was something along the lines of the different races being akin to dogs and wolves and subspecies with one group being gifted with the blood directly from the source and the others meant to serve them to build.

Here is the first archive - archive.is/v6TNL
bottom of thread

Yes. Hotentot.
I think Capoids are haplo A.

Test…transport me to thread

Point/(((counterpoint)))

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I always thought the theory that we came from Africa was false for a couple of reasons, but the main one is the evidence to me that this theory is (extremely degenerated) Gnostic by essence;
a bit like communism trying to shape the future to reach an utopian pre-human way of life, this theory claims we come from Africa and therefore we should "go back to it" to reach "perfection"

Does anybody have the pic of the guy holding up a National Geographic with a H. erectus on the cover next to his nigger friend, who looks exactly like it? I had it on my old laptop, but not in the current meme folder.

And Europe.

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That image is so representative of the scientific illiteracy of the person who made it, its amazing.

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Very few homo sapiens fossils have been found older than 100kya, and the oldest ones were in ethiopia, isreal, and morroco. Out of Africa is based entirely on a lack of data.

*Also note that none of these are subsaharan countries*

That's why it's in my "Fail Memes" folder with the other leftypol garbage.

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Wasnt J the group for arabs?
The meme is true my friend, FLIPS ARE THE MOST POWERFUL RACE ON THE PLANET!

found a jew

No nigger jew that is ONE ape in ONE location.

J is Persians and Arabs.
The GHIJK Haploparagroup and other Haploparagroups are the thing that connects the individual Haplogroups. When no evidence exists that connects them it doesn't exist.

Shits getting old.

See

To say mankind emerged from Africa is one of the most illogical things anyone could even remotely believe. So, let me get this right, the earth had consistent conditions and yet… mankind just decided to emerge on one continent… yeah… fucking stupid.

Occam's razor.

Don't forget that the gray wolf branch is a paraphyletic assemblage that should be split in multiple subspecies over trivial differences because of dogs' existence.

European J2 is of Irano-Caucasian origin. Asian Arabs acquired it by rape slaves.

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J2 is Neanderthal infestation.

Hello schizo my old friend.
It's time to school your ass again.
Sick of all your constant shrieking…
whining, pissing, moaning, and bleating…
of…
MUH NEANDERKIKE!

Lay back down your head.
And please consume your meds.

spotted another jew

I find it interesting that throughout the entire history of mankind and what mankind currently has in terms of records there are many claims of this/that but there is not a single source that can trace the background of the white race. On top of that, the white race is, even today, the most racially pure group out there given the massive rapes/race mixing that took place everywhere else. Also given the wonderful societies and structures the white race created before anyone else it's almost as if they just emerged one day out of the blue and didn't follow the same evolutionary path as the other groups. Obviously the group has had its run ins and issues but, overall, there really is no other group that can even remotely come close to being able to show such grand societies, buildings, and advances. It isn't even close. Hell, it isn't even the same sport.

Hi again, schizo!
MUH CROMAGON!
MUH NEANDERKIKE!

Yes, and?…

You're the equivalent of "I didn't evolve from no monkey".

- Neanderthal, 1600ccm, sloped forehead, lack of frontal cortex, big visual part (nocturno beasts)
- Cro-magnon, 1700ccm, wall like forehead, big frontal cortex (part of brain for higher functions)
Found another jew. This thread is infested with jews like Caucasus and Taurus mountains with Neanderthals.

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If this was true, would this have a big impact on theories on life that developed on exo-planets?

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Theoretically time travel to the past is possible, but only back to the point that the machine was first built/activated.
So it could potentially be useful for historical investigation, but only for generations that come after its construction.

Though since we're talking about science fiction, its certainly conceivable that an alien civilization more advanced than humans could have built such a machine well before we evolved, which could be used for investigation of humanity's pre-history. Similarly, there's the even slimmer possibility of such a thing naturally occurring, in much the same way that nuclear fission "reactors" have existed by chance. Either one would present the same opportunity, but they are both so far into the theoretical as to be pure fantasy..

Erectus Walks Amongst Us
archive.is/3WP1a
analyseeconomique.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/richard-d-fuerle-erectus-walks-amongst-us.pdf

I really am getting tired of always linking to this book, but apparently there is no one else to do it.

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That theory hinges on the idea that time is somehow a separate component of reality, which is a rather retarded idea if you think about it. Vid related.

Thank you for linking quality content.

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You have within you (you specifically) the one and only thing to be able to obstruct or connect with the tethers that pull on the time and space continuum. In this day and age very few do due to the dilution of the original source but you do. You have seen moments that you cannot explain and yet you feel as if it is you there instead of those you see in the flash. Do you think this is just some random lucid dream that has no meaning or is to be interpreted as only a dream? You have within you the ability to stream any moment you wish. It has undoubtedly helped you many times through your life but merely considered a heightened sense of things. It isn't.

No, all of that wormhole/black hole stuff is completely made up.