"Because I may have my reservations about excessive political correctness, but honestly, I absolutely do not want to be seen as being in the same camp as the low-life scum on the internet that think it's OK to be a white nationalist Nazi, and have some truly nasty misogynistic, homophobic or transphobic behaviour. And those people were complaining about too much political correctness too, and in the process just making my public stance look bad. archive.is/NNDi4#selection-1507.0-1507.449
methinks we are white nationalist Nazi,,,,truly nasty misogynistic, homophobic or transphobic….he is talking about.
"Because technology is what I have always found interesting. People? Not my forte. Never has been, clearly. If you watched that TED talk, you'll know I wasn't a people person even as a child. "And if you have read any of the recent stories, you will now know at least one other reason why I've wanted to stay away from that whole discussion. Because it's not just my lack of people skills. It's the discussions themselves. "The advantage of concentrating on technology is that you can have some mostly objective measures, and some basis for agreement, and you can have a very nice and healthy community around it all. I really am motivated by the technology, but the community around Linux has been a big positive too. "But there are very tangible and immediate common goals in any technical project like Linux, and while there is occasionally disagreement about how to solve some particular issue, there is a very real cohesive force in that common goal of improving the project. "And even when there are disagreements, people in the end often have fairly clear and objective measures of what is better. Code that is faster, simpler, or handles more cases naturally is just objectively 'better', without people really having to argue too much about it. "In contrast, the arguments about behaviour never seem to end up having a common goal. Except, in some sense, the argument itself. "Have you read the Twitter feeds and other things by the people who seem to care more about the non-technical side? I think your 'hyped stories' is about as polite as you can put it. It's a morass of nastiness. Instead of a 'common goal', you end up with horrible fighting between different 'in-groups'. "It's very polarising, and both sides love egging the other side on. It's not even a 'discussion', it's just people shouting at each other. "That's actually the reason I for the longest time did not want to be involved with the whole CoC discussion in the first place. That whole subject seems to very easily just devolve and become unproductive. And I found a lot of the people who pushed for a CoC and criticised me for cursing to be hypocritical and pointless. I could easily point you to various tweet storms by people who criticise my 'white cis male' behaviour, while at the same time cursing more than I ever do. "So that's my excuse for dismissing a lot of the politically correct concerns for years. I felt it wasn't worth it. Anybody who uses the words 'white cis male privilege' was simply not worth my time even talking to, I felt. "And I'm still not apologising for my gender or the colour of my skin, or the fact that I happen to have the common sexual orientation. "What changed? Maybe it was me, but I was also made very aware of some of the behaviour of the 'other' side in the discussion. "Because I may have my reservations about excessive political correctness, but honestly, I absolutely do not want to be seen as being in the same camp as the low-life scum on the internet that think it's OK to be a white nationalist Nazi, and have some truly nasty misogynistic, homophobic or transphobic behaviour. And those people were complaining about too much political correctness too, and in the process just making my public stance look bad. "And don't get me wrong, please - I'm not making excuses for some of my own rather strong language. But I do claim that it never ever was any of that kind of nastiness. I got upset with bad code, and people who made excuses for it, and used some pretty strong language in the process. Not good behaviour, but not the racist/etc claptrap some people spout. "So in the end, my 'I really don't want to be too PC' stance simply became untenable. Partly because you definitely can find some emails from me that were simply completely unacceptable, and I need to fix that going forward. But to a large degree also because I don't want to be associated with a lot of the people who complain about excessive political correctness.
Nolan Morris
That's a imkampfy guide, not an Zig Forums one.
Jason Taylor
Also read
Jaxon Lee
Which is the real one?
Connor Thomas
You didn't reddit space it for him, so he missed it. Also, screw this Linus cuck.
Low-life scum of the internet and proud of it, baby!
Carson Long
Ya, he's totally dead.
Wyatt Moore
But honestly, we don't want to be seen either? ;)
Jeremiah Collins
No we make our own os with ns symbolism.
Logan Ramirez
All Linus wanted to do was code. That's it. Now he's on damage control for implementing a CoC supported by the same group of cunts that want him exiled for being born white.
Connor Bennett
I don't think that's very realistic, unless we're talking a very simple, CP/M type OS. OSs require thousands of contributors over decades to get to where Linux is now, and it's still less polished than Windows and macOS on the GUI front.
John Thompson
It would take less effort to eject these subversives.
which means that he is probably ready to listen to facts
Jose Wright
The maintainer summit's coming up in a few weeks. It's possible the CoC will be amended to calm everyone down based on the chatter within the LKML.
Angel Price
Another IP - one IP posts this thread, replies to this thread multiple times, bumping it multiple times, and keeps the thread going. IP does not appear in any other threads. Is this a Reporter? Is this an attempt to divide Zig Forums? You tell me faggots - I'm just reporting.
Jeremiah Jones
Mind control is fucking real m8s. Would explain a lot wouldn't it?
I have never met a computer scientist that thought "the cloud" was good. At best, it's convenient. However, I have met lots of marketers that love cloud computing, and would love to get my business to use their cloud services.
Weird.
Bentley Stewart
His opinions were never anti-cloud. Plan9 was very much early "cloud" thinking. So he's being consistent in that sense.
Aiden Mitchell
Cloud computing's a meme to me.
Kayden Martinez
CoC is laughable. I know nothing about so I could be seriously redpilled but I've done Linux From Scratch and Gentoo and many other Distros.
You can literally compile everything from source… how is it going to be possible to botnet?
