Rome: Christian Law vs Jews and Pagans

your logic, cuck
Jewish is what sprout from Judaism, not what's similar to it on a larger scale taken out of context

and before the christians arrived the heathens simply lived in peace and prosperity :)
imagine being this delusional, who the fuck had ritual sacrifices? it wasn't the christians

There is no "us"

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did you read my point, you illiterate mongol? my post mentioned virtues and sin, if you do not care about those and only care about tribe and race, you will become like the jews
it's no wonder siegefags are all schizos, like the guy who converted to salafism

What's wrong with ritual sacrifice?

paganism everyone
what a shitty thread, pagans are a fucking meme
choke on placentas

You didn't answer my question though

human sacrifice is what made the greeks and the romans describe the celtic and germanic as savage barbarians, I won't even bother addressing you
this is why you need virtue and not some shitty norcuck religion
cringe

Asschapped christcuck derailing intensifies.

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was there even an argument made? pagans were persecuted, good, as they were savages

Would filter for derailing but you're really seasoning this bread.

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Those pagan Greeks and Romans did say that

Constantine the Great merged Roman civilization with Christianity, and they became one whole

so the greeks and the romans were more advanced, as they have abandoned old pagan customs is what you are saying?

^ all these lies from two thousand years ago..

no, I can't believe you are this retarded
you make false comparisons which have no basis in reality and
being nationalist =/= Jew
being non-Christian =/= Jew
If your parents have been identifing as Jews and their parents and so on (to the point of Israel 0. century AD), that would make you a jew

Romans and Greeks have done much more evil to this world than Christians
Human sacrifise is nothing when compared to the basic needs our civilization needs to exist
Also, ignoring problems does not make things GOOD for fuck sake

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science_in_classical_antiquity

The history of science in classical antiquity encompasses both those inquiries into the workings of the universe aimed at such practical goals as establishing a reliable calendar or determining how to cure a variety of illnesses and those abstract investigations known as natural philosophy. The ancient peoples who are considered the first scientists may have thought of themselves as natural philosophers, as practitioners of a skilled profession (for example, physicians), or as followers of a religious tradition (for example, temple healers). The encyclopedic works of Aristotle, Archimedes, Hippocrates, Galen, Ptolemy, Euclid, and others spread throughout the world. These works and the important commentaries on them were the wellspring of science.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaximander

Anaximander (/æˌnæksɪˈmændər/; Greek: Ἀναξίμανδρος Anaximandros; c. 610 – c. 546 BC) was a pre-Socratic Greek philosopher who lived in Miletus,[4] a city of Ionia (in modern-day Turkey).

He was an early proponent of science and tried to observe and explain different aspects of the universe, with a particular interest in its origins, claiming that nature is ruled by laws, just like human societies, and anything that disturbs the balance of nature does not last long.[7] Like many thinkers of his time, Anaximander's philosophy included contributions to many disciplines. In astronomy, he attempted to describe the mechanics of celestial bodies in relation to the Earth. In physics, his postulation that the indefinite (or apeiron) was the source of all things led Greek philosophy to a new level of conceptual abstraction. His knowledge of geometry allowed him to introduce the gnomon in Greece. He created a map of the world that contributed greatly to the advancement of geography.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid

Euclid (/ˈjuːklɪd/; Ancient Greek: Εὐκλείδης – Eukleídēs, pronounced [eu.klěː.dɛːs]; fl. 300 BC), sometimes given the name Euclid of Alexandria[1] to distinguish him from Euclides of Megara, was a Greek mathematician, often referred to as the "founder of geometry"[1] or the "father of geometry". He was active in Alexandria during the reign of Ptolemy I (323–283 BC). His Elements is one of the most influential works in the history of mathematics, serving as the main textbook for teaching mathematics (especially geometry) from the time of its publication until the late 19th or early 20th century.[2][3][4] In the Elements, Euclid deduced the theorems of what is now called Euclidean geometry from a small set of axioms. Euclid also wrote works on perspective, conic sections, spherical geometry, number theory, and rigor.

Euclid is the anglicized version of the Greek name Εὐκλείδης, which means "renowned, glorious".[5]

Although many of the results in Elements originated with earlier mathematicians, one of Euclid's accomplishments was to present them in a single, logically coherent framework, making it easy to use and easy to reference, including a system of rigorous mathematical proofs that remains the basis of mathematics 23 centuries later.[17]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes

Archimedes of Syracuse (/ˌɑːrkɪˈmiːdiːz/;[2] Greek: Ἀρχιμήδης; c. 287 – c. 212 BC) was a Greek mathematician, physicist, engineer, inventor, and astronomer.[3] Although few details of his life are known, he is regarded as one of the leading scientists in classical antiquity. Generally considered the greatest mathematician of antiquity and one of the greatest of all time,[4][5] Archimedes anticipated modern calculus and analysis by applying concepts of infinitesimals and the method of exhaustion to derive and rigorously prove a range of geometrical theorems, including the area of a circle, the surface area and volume of a sphere, and the area under a parabola.[6]

Other mathematical achievements include deriving an accurate approximation of pi, defining and investigating the spiral bearing his name, and creating a system using exponentiation for expressing very large numbers. He was also one of the first to apply mathematics to physical phenomena, founding hydrostatics and statics, including an explanation of the principle of the lever. He is credited with designing innovative machines, such as his screw pump, compound pulleys, and defensive war machines to protect his native Syracuse from invasion.

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so what's different? there is literally no coherent doctrine of paganism, just some obscure customs (that nobody besides christian priests documented) that nobody knew why they did it, so all you're left with is "tribe" and "race" - how will that not lead to essentially becoming jews, when you abandon christian virtues in favour of furthering your own group?

no shit, greco-roman civilization was the forerunner of european society
how does shitty unwashed celtic/germanic heathens relate into this? why are they worth preserving, when they have produced nothing but war and destruction in all of their existence until they have been converted?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_science_in_the_Middle_Ages

In the ancient world, Greek had been the primary language of science. Even under the Roman Empire, Latin texts drew extensively on Greek work, some pre-Roman, some contemporary; while advanced scientific research and teaching continued to be carried on in the Hellenistic side of the empire, in Greek. Late Roman attempts to translate Greek writings into Latin had limited success.[3]

As the knowledge of Greek declined during the transition to the Middle Ages, the Latin West found itself cut off from its Greek philosophical and scientific roots. Most scientific inquiry came to be based on information gleaned from sources which were often incomplete and posed serious problems of interpretation. Latin-speakers who wanted to learn about science only had access to books by such Roman writers as Calcidius, Macrobius, Martianus Capella, Boethius, Cassiodorus, and later Latin encyclopedists. Much had to be gleaned from non-scientific sources: Roman surveying manuals were read for what geometry was included.[4]

De-urbanization reduced the scope of education and by the 6th century teaching and learning moved to monastic and cathedral schools, with the center of education being the study of the Bible.[5]

The leading scholars of the early centuries were clergymen for whom the study of nature was but a small part of their interest. They lived in an atmosphere which provided little institutional support for the disinterested study of natural phenomena. The study of nature was pursued more for practical reasons than as an abstract inquiry: the need to care for the sick led to the study of medicine and of ancient texts on drugs,[7] the need for monks to determine the proper time to pray led them to study the motion of the stars,[8] the need to compute the date of Easter led them to study and teach rudimentary mathematics and the motions of the Sun and Moon.[9]

Beginning around the year 1050, European scholars built upon their existing knowledge by seeking out ancient learning in Greek and Arabic texts which they translated into Latin. They encountered a wide range of classical Greek texts, some of which had earlier been translated into Arabic, accompanied by commentaries and independent works by Islamic thinkers.

The rediscovery of the works of Aristotle allowed the full development of the new Christian philosophy and the method of scholasticism. By 1200 there were reasonably accurate Latin translations of the main works of Aristotle, Euclid, Ptolemy, Archimedes, and Galen—that is, of all the intellectually crucial ancient authors except Plato.

During the 13th century, scholastics expanded the natural philosophy of these texts by commentaries (associated with teaching in the universities) and independent treatises. Notable among these were the works of Robert Grosseteste, Roger Bacon, John of Sacrobosco, Albertus Magnus, and Duns Scotus.

Under the tuition of Grosseteste and inspired by the writings of Arab alchemists who had preserved and built upon Aristotle's portrait of induction, Bacon described a repeating cycle of observation, hypothesis, experimentation, and the need for independent verification. He recorded the manner in which he conducted his experiments in precise detail so that others could reproduce and independently test his results - a cornerstone of the scientific method, and a continuation of the work of researchers like Al Battani.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Majus

The Opus Majus (Latin for "Greater Work") is the most important work of Roger Bacon.

Part six, De scientia experimentalis, a study of Experimental Science: It includes a review of alchemy and the manufacture of gunpowder and of the positions and sizes of the celestial bodies, and anticipates later inventions, such as microscopes, telescopes, spectacles, flying machines, hydraulics and steam ships. The occult overtones of this section reflect Bacon's interest in magic, which he also wrote about in De secretis operibus artis et naturae, et de nullitate magiae. It was a major influence on John Dee's theory of Archemastrie.[2]

tl;dr: christians copy-pasting science from greek pagans, arab alchemists, and european occultists is NOT "christianity invented science". similarly, "clock boy" ahmed did NOT "invent" a clock by buying a clock at walmart and bringing it to school.

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because
the definition is of jew is not nationalist you idiot dumbfuck

keep copy pasting wikipedia articles you mouth breathing retard
can you tell me what religion was practiced in renaissance Europe?

Judaism 2: Jesus Boogaloo, enforced by law on pain off death by cryptojew christiains

for me jews are a nationalist people with no morals
how will this not manifest the same way in pagans, when they have no doctrine? the US and the british manifest the same vices as the jews

and you think people weren't put to death for worshipping other gods before christianity?

nobody cares what things are for you
stay fucking objective for fucks sake
the world is so not subjective

strange coincidence that someone that worships a dead jewish rabbi as a god hates germans, lies about german history, and argues that exterminating germans is a "good" thing.

Only a slave would desire to kill a master.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master–slave_morality

Masters are creators of morality; slaves respond to master-morality with their slave-morality. Unlike master morality, which is sentiment, slave morality is based on re-sentiment—devaluing that which the master values and the slave does not have. As master morality originates in the strong, slave morality originates in the weak. Slave morality is the inverse of master morality. As such, it is characterized by pessimism and cynicism. Slave morality is created in opposition to what master morality values as "good".

Slave morality does not aim at exerting one's will by strength, but by careful subversion. It does not seek to transcend the masters, but to make them slaves as well.

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This never happened. The idea that Europe somehow forgot about Plato and the rest during the "dark ages" is pure fabrication. They were discussed constantly without break. This is what happens when you use Wikipedia.

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not as much as the germans hated themselves in unending tribal warfare of their primitive, barbarian, warmongering "religion"

then what is your moral code?

not related to my question
my morality is higher than you because at least I can stay on subject and not change the subject when I would have to admit something

This is why no one likes immoral, unethical pagans. You're misrepresenting the entire Christian faith in yet another D&C attempt. This is civil and criminal law from over 1,500 years ago, not doctrine.

315 16.8.1 "Any Jew who stones a Jewish convert to Christianity shall be burned, and no one is allowed to join Judaism.

326 16.5.1 Religious privileges are reserved for Christians.

336 16.8.5 Jews are not allowed to harass Jewish converts to Christianity.

336 16.9.1 Circumcised slaves are to be freed.

337 Title 4 "Jews may not own circumcised slaves. Also, Jews may not harass Jewish converts to Christianity.

339 16.8.6 Women employed by the government as weavers who were lead away by Jews may return to weaving.

339 16.9.2 Jews may not hold Christian slaves. Jews who circumcise slaves shall be executed.

Jews and pagans are both anti-Christs.

what the fuck is your morality? how will you not end up like the jews?

cool clock, christkike

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They always were. LARPagans and jews arethe same. They worship the material race as if it is something special and deny God.

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my morality is stronger than your morality because I don't change the subject when I would have to admit something
I don't make hypocritical comparisons when I have to convince others

what morality did christians copy from non-christians?

Everything that doesn't have to do with opening your ass to others.

your morality is not stronger because you haven't stated it, when I compare jewish morality and "pagan" morality that worships their own kind first and foremost and have complete disregard for universal moral standards, I see both of them ending up in the same sinful gutter

do you have a single fact to back that up?

your actions stand up your morality not whatever you think in your head

he wasn't the one making the claim, you imbecile

Emperor Constantine in 321 allowed the building of a jewish Synagogue in what is now Cologne, Germany. Roving Germanic pagans destroyed it sometime after but by the Franks full conversion to Christianity in the mid 400s the jewish community was reborn until marudering crusaders destroyed it in the 1000s. These crusaders who attacked the jews were hunted down and brought to justice in their own time.

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imagine being this fucking retard
what JUDGMENT evaluates your action? are you literally denying morals exist?

for starters, see

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arete

Arete (Greek: ἀρετή), in its basic sense, means "excellence of any kind".[1] The term may also mean "moral virtue".[1] In its earliest appearance in Greek, this notion of excellence was ultimately bound up with the notion of the fulfillment of purpose or function: the act of living up to one's full potential.

The term from Homeric times onwards is not gender specific. Homer applies the term of both the Greek and Trojan heroes as well as major female figures, such as Penelope, the wife of the Greek hero Odysseus. In the Homeric poems, Arete is frequently associated with bravery, but more often with effectiveness.

In particular, the aristocratic class was presumed, essentially by definition, to be exemplary of arete: "The root of the word is the same as aristos, the word which shows superlative ability and superiority, and aristos was constantly used in the plural to denote the nobility."[4]

By the 5th and 4th centuries BC, arete as applied to men had developed to include quieter virtues, such as dikaiosyne (justice) and sophrosyne (self-restraint).

It was commonly believed that the mind, body, and soul each had to be developed and prepared for a man to live a life of arete. This led to the thought that athletics had to be present in order to obtain arete. They did not need to consume one's life, merely exercise the body into the right condition for arete, just like the mind and soul would be exercised by other means.[7]

Arete is a significant part of the paideia of ancient Greeks: the training of the boy to manhood. This training in arete included physical training, for which the Greeks developed the gymnasion; mental training, which included oratory, rhetoric, and basic sciences; and spiritual training, which included music and what is called virtue.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicomachean_Ethics

The Nicomachean Ethics (/ˌnɪkoʊˈmækiən/; Ancient Greek: Ἠθικὰ Νικομάχεια) is the name normally given to Aristotle's best-known work on ethics. The work, which plays a pre-eminent role in defining Aristotelian ethics, consists of ten books, originally separate scrolls, and is understood to be based on notes from his lectures at the Lyceum.

The theme of the work is a Socratic question previously explored in the works of Plato, Aristotle's friend and teacher, of how men should best live. In his Metaphysics, Aristotle described how Socrates, the friend and teacher of Plato, had turned philosophy to human questions, whereas pre-Socratic philosophy had only been theoretical. Ethics, as now separated out for discussion by Aristotle, is practical rather than theoretical, in the original Aristotelian senses of these terms.[1] In other words, it is not only a contemplation about good living, because it also aims to create good living. It is therefore connected to Aristotle's other practical work, the Politics, which similarly aims at people becoming good. Ethics is about how individuals should best live, while the study of politics is from the perspective of a law-giver, looking at the good of a whole community.

The Nicomachean Ethics is widely considered one of the most important historical philosophical works, and had an important impact upon the European Middle Ages, becoming one of the core works of medieval philosophy. It therefore indirectly became critical in the development of all modern philosophy as well as European law and theology.

The first philosopher to write ethical treatises, Aristotle argues that the correct approach for studying such controversial subjects as Ethics or Politics, which involve discussing what is beautiful or just, is to start with what would be roughly agreed to be true by people of good up-bringing and experience in life, and to work from there to a higher understanding.[4][5]

Taking this approach, Aristotle begins by saying that the highest good for humans, the highest aim of all human practical thinking, is eudaimonia, a Greek word often translated as well-being or happiness. Aristotle in turn argues that happiness is properly understood as an ongoing and stable dynamic, a way of being in action (energeia), specifically appropriate to the human "soul" (psuchē), at its most "excellent" or virtuous (virtue translates aretē in Greek). If there are several virtues then the best and most complete or perfect of them will be the happiest one. An excellent human will be a person good at living life, who does it well and beautifully (kalos). Aristotle says that such a person would also be a serious (spoudaios) human being, in the same sense of "serious" that one contrasts serious harpists with other harpists.

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not but you can think anything in your head
it does not matter
thinking is never wrong
ACTIONS define a man

cringe, you must be in the double dibit IQ area

you are in that area
only if you lack of soul and you christians seem to lack it totally

Anyways, early Christianity is equally Hellenic and Egyptian as it is "Jewish" (Galileean is a better word – Jesus would not have identified as a Pharisee before his "rebellion" he was closer to the Sadducees who were Hellenisers but wouldn't identify with them either). The intellectual nervous system of early Christianity was Egyptian (see Desert Father's, Origen, etc).

Of course, it was corrupted by kikes and traitors and weak faggots (like everything eventually is). OP's findings are great! But to me they indicate a parasitic takeover of Christianity by kikes, not that Christianity was a Jewish scheme from its inception.

How does OP explain the Church BTFOing kikes repeatedly for centuries after 312? Could this have been a temporary infiltration?

christian-tier reading comprehension. stating that Plato and other non-christian Greek thinkers were discussed in Europe constantly without break is an affirmative claim.

Nice try JIDF

never united
FUCK OFF CRYPTO JEW

the claim the was responding to:

holy fuck, how dumb are you?

FILTER ID: 546262
He is just looking to derail the thread with cherrypicking and hypocrisy

I see you're becoming desperate you low IQ retard

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>>>Zig Forums
Time's up, christcuck.

Laws that were enforced becaue Saul the jew thought that goyim wouldn't embrace kikestianity if kikestians were slicing the dicks off goy children

the book of Paul condemned circumcision, you are one amazing retard
keep spewing dumb shit, it's hilarious

Rome was Christian for 70 years then collapsed

Lies, impugning motives, misrepresentations and insults is all you have.

GOT NO HONOR PAGANS, NONE AT ALL

RETARD ALERT
if it was anything that collapsed Rome, it was the germanic savages that the western relied on for their army

We knew almost nothing about Greece up until the Brits got a hard on for them in the 1700’s

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Byzantium wasn’t Rome in the same way the US isn’t British

Christfags should just go and suck Jewish dick off

Also like to add Byzantium was destroyed by the 4th Crusade

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heathens were murdering eachother any way, and they were the ones pillaging the british isles for 5 centuries before the northern crusades, so it was both justified to declare a crusade agaisnt them, and it would have made no difference because they killed eachother any way

The Byzantine Empire was Christian for 1,058 years before it's collapse

Interesting thanks

he wasn't the one making the original claim, moron

Notice how Christianity and the Bible is all about "interpretation". Countless millions of White Europeans squabbling back 'n forth over their "interpretation" of what some jew high on desert mushrooms was really thinking about 2,000 years ago.

I'm Celt, but I love pre-Christian Roman organizational society. I especially love how Titus smashed their jew temple into a pile of dust scattered to the winds in 70 AD.

Celts ended up saving the Roman tradition. They call us Germans, but we're Celts. Same people.

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Find it funny how pagancucks always scream "might is right" and "the weak should fear the strong" while also kvetching over stronger Christians taking over their land.

The outline of this universalist thinking will always lead to the same end phase. You flooding a European community’s with Africans.

It was sacked by the 4th crusade

can you please point me to the verses that advocate for inseminating european women with africans? you are literally talking out of your ass

did the pope call for invading byzantium, or was it the venetians who did it? you're a retard

Pagans = Philosophy school.

Now you know why there was a Dark Age.

The start of the dark ages and christian communism which became feudalism was this guy

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocletian

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Typical chrxstcucks in this thread crying their poor Jewish hearts out about "A-BOO-HOO D-D-DE SAVAGES WARRED EACH OTHER!!! HOW VICIOUS!!!" Inter-Aryan war is far from wrong and completely acceptable. War is normal and healthy, only a weak pathetic kike nigger would try to use the inter-Aryan wars of the Germanics, Celts, Romans, etc. as proof of "savagery", as though savagery is to be viewed as a negative thing. What a bunch of cry babies, the whole lot of these Lunar spirituality, Jew worshipping anti-Aryans. Death to them all, put them on crosses so they can be with their kike god they love so much.

one-line responses with zero proof to back up your claims are cheap-to-make and worth nothing.

speaking of which, care to explain why we should worship a dead jewish rabbi as a god?

isn't that literally what the OP is crying about? lmao

exactly… The (((gnosticism))) anti-Platonic schools of escapism that rule the NWO under ZOG to this day.

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Secular Lae is legislation that doesn't play religious favoritism. These Roman Christian laws do not fit the bill.

Law*
Polite Sage

WE WAZ ROMANS N SHIT

Allowing jews into Germany was a Christian affair that non-Christian Europeans would have successfully obliterated if Christianity didn't turn brother against brother for the protection of the defenseless jewish people and thus preventing the greatest problem our race faces now in jewish subversion. Christians can't be anti-jewish from the inception if the first Christian Emperor allows the construction of jewish synagogues. The White race can only survive a few more centuries on the jewish yoke before its entire strength wears out, Christianity has only used the powers in our race and was not the force which created our race nor has any care in preserving it.

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WE WUZ ROMAN LAWS!

Cicero disagrees

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if these were christian laws they'd be written in the bible
it's called secular law because they are given by the sovereign, in this case the emperor
more uneducated larpagan idiocy

Daily reminder: kike literally means "anti-Christian"

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Stay mad that the Christians defeated every pagan in war. We are the true Aryans

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