So it seems obvious that Tarrant was full-on 14 but not 88. Which brings me to my question:

So it seems obvious that Tarrant was full-on 14 but not 88. Which brings me to my question:

What is best? Should our movement be full on 14 AND 88? Or is 88 holding us back/too much baggage to ever attract normies?

Personally myself I'm both but I would be interested in how you all feel.

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88 is a symbol and a means to an end. If it serves a purpose, then it will be used.

14 should be promoted for now.
People are not ready for the truth about 88 or heil hitler just yet.

Tarrant was a (((tool)))

Yes but he also makes it clear elsewhere he is not 88. Also 14 was all over his weapons but there wasn't an 88 anywhere I could see (though he did have a Latvian SS divisions emblem drawn on one)

>>>/qtddtot/

As many other people are saying in this thread, the fourteen words must take precedence at all times. If the fourteen words are instilled in people's minds there'll be no white race left to preserve. 88 is something people come to after personal reflection and research. Hitler should never be disavowed, for he stood for what we ultimately stand for, but I don't think Hitler should ever come before promoting our race. It can quickly sink into LARPing or tactics unpalatable to normalfags who are still judaized

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Shut your faggot mouth you lying heeb.

He may be an 88 or not.
Most likely he may be due to him lurking here.
He just didn't didn't say it or else they will say he was a nazi or hitler worshipper or what ever.

*aren't instilled

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The 88 stands for the 88 precepts, which he followed fairly well.
No, retards such as yourself that have no idea what you are talking about and regurgitate shit podcasters say does

Posters who STILL don't know about the 88 precepts and their vital importance are either ledditors or 4niggers.

88 was the natural extension of 14 for 1930s central europe

By socialism Hitler meant pragmatic, adaptive, empirical, non-ideologically-based governance aimed at attaining the greatest weal for one's volk.

If you want to ditch the trappings of 88, fine, but you cant get away from the intent of 88 because its the optimal form of supporting 14

This guy gets it. One of the many works of David Lane.

Fucking checked.

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1488 or die in gas chamber!

Checked

Personally 88 holds us back, if we just went 14, more would join.
Going full 88 will be a natural move later, for some.

If we had a good 14 base (dislikers) and allow some to progress to 88 (haters) - that would be ideal.
The 14's would be our comrades in arms if needed.

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Symbolism and personality cult is idolatry. That is a sin under religion, but more importantly it's self destructive narcissism under natural laws. 14 stands for knowledge, which means creation, that's the purpose of life. That being said…14 okay, 88 nay, and NZ was still a jewish false flag.

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Ya 14 should be promoted.
88 is fot people who are capable of independent thought and critical thinking they will be questioning. They will be lurking and doing research on their own.

I wonder (((who))) is behind this post.

Cui Bono?

Europeans? Nope, PR disaster in race relations. Very bad for Europeans living among Muslims, will escalate tension and violence in every diverse neighborhood.

Muslims? Nope, very bad same as above but vice versa.

Mass media? Yes dream come true.

AIPAC? A dream come true

Governments trying to gut free speech? Yes dream come true

Governments looking to tighten gun laws? Yes dream come true

Police state/surveillance apparatus? Yes dream come true.

Military Industrial Complex? Yes citizen we need to keep you safe from terrorists, it'll cost you $750 billion per year plus interest. Sorry you can't afford Universal healthcare, what are you a Socialist?

Israel? Yes, "how nice of you to step in and volunteer to take the retaliation for our decades of slaughtering unarmed civilians in Gaza.."

Pro-war Neocons/Mossad? Dream come true, now they can easily lead some angry patsies into carrying out false flags in order to get US and EU to support their war with Iran and Syria.

There's nothing known about the three other suspects? Hey, that's not strange at all.

proof or filtered

Hitler didn't put himself over the people, he sacrificed himself for the 14 words. He himself said that one needs to sell the "Weltanschauung" to the masses. So the whole symbolism, the roman aesthetics and the cult around himself as the Führer, was a superstition created to sell the 14 words to the masses…because they need spectacle.

Why would jews orchestrate a false flag to get Europeans to attack muslims and sympathize with Israel?
Such an act would be unprecedented. It just doesn't add up.

Oh I can see where you are coming from.
But I think saying 88 is self destructive narcissism is false.

In what way did it make europeans sympathize with israel?

I'm 14.

But this whole christianity talk bs that goes on from some is annoying af.
Personally, Catholics are part of the problems, their destruction of Constantinopel (which was Orthodox at the times) opened the gates for the Islam.

Something many western Christians seem to forget.

A united 14 is:
Christians of all Backgrounds, Atheists, Agnostics, Old religions (Germanic, Paganism, etc).

As long as you are of White heritages you are Welcome to Europe.
Asians, like Chinese, Koreans, Taiwanese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thais are okay too and very tolerable as long as they are not Muslims.

Everything else can, and perhaps should be exterminated. Especially after seeing this one Rap video today of that french rapper about killing White Males totally changed me.

It is now or never, we need to resist and hit these rats hard. Remove them from our Lands or they will kill us no matter how friendly of a cuck one may be.

Apparently, Israel has been at war with most of the muslim middle east for almost a century and relies on western support. Or so the story goes. Don't shoot the messenger, dude

They've already been killing us for 1400 years, you stupid nigger.

What are they going to do? What else COULD they do that they haven't already done? Extra terror attacks on Fridays and Tuesdays? SUPER terror attacks? MEGA bus bombings?

Oh no, the propaganda arm of our hostile government is going to say bad things about us now! :(

Not even a factor in the shootings

They're already doing that, so the speed it happens doesn't matter. Censorship is censorship.

They're already doing that to. At least gun-seizure squads would force a conflict instead of slowly waiting until gun-owning white people die off.

Every waking moment of your life is already recorded. The shooting changed nothing.

They already control spending with an iron grip and they already get any war they demand. Again, nothing's changed.

Nothing has changed after the shooting with Israel, and the world has never cared that they shoot Palestinians enough to do anything about it.

That's a stretch, even by your stupid pattern of thinking. They already own enough ISIS fighters to do catastrophic terror attacks wherever they want

Fuck off. You're too stupid to be a shill. You're just a garden variety retard.

faggot, we will never accept your pro-Israel kosher nationalism
If you support Israel, you will also die on DOTR. No middle ground will be allowed.
No the_donald will be allowed. Jews in Israel are as much as a big as a problem as jews in white countries

I thought jews were fellow white men?

14 irl 88 on the net
not to imply 14 not on the net, but there's only so much you can do for our race via text

If compromising on our politics to be more palatable to cnn-watching normies is the aim, why not go it all the way ditch the 14 too and become full-fledged bleeding-heart liberals?
Oh wait, I remember. It's because that's retarded and self-defeating.

no, kikes are bringing rapefugees to europe, they are also forcing European man to pay them reparations for holocaust (which did not happen), force him to die for his Israel. Kikes are the #1 enemy of white people.
They are beind white genocide

faggot

Did youtube block comments on all music videos related to our Hero?

Keep 88 to your self or on the net.
No one outside of here will appreciate it, or normalfags will equate you to hitler (who in their minds is the devil)

*behind

Do you think they did 9-11?

It's idolatry. Put it in the closet and if we survive the war, you ask Palestine to hiss the Swastika over Jerusalem and they will tearfully accept the honor. Until then Hitler is dead, desecrated and his Weltanschauung isn't this war…only the 14 words remain as the foundation they cannot take away without killing us.

Yeah, they did. They also attacked USS liberty. They are the most backstabbing, evil race that exists on earth and only care about self-gain
If you search history, then you realize that most degeneracy and evil was brought to our society by kikes. Simply they created evil

You have to make these things normal for them
You define social norms by calling out kikes

Because going straight to 88 is unpalatable to most normies, we have to be political in our approach. People don't hate naturally, we have gentle lead the normy to 14 first.
A bit like fucking a virgin, finger them first then fuck them, or they won't let you do it again in a rush.

I'll agree that go 14 first but also go 88
When they accept that white genocide is happening, you should then tell them then
If you don't go 88 after that, you are literally helping kikes

14 is impossible without 88. You can't separate the too.

two*

Change the meaning.

Nope. Evil represents the temptation towards death. Life and death are the opposites on which the natural law is funded on. We exist in between in a struggle for life, while death is inevitable. Tracing this logic to the human origin reveals that we became parasitical to our ecosystem, by attacking it. By the laws of nature the host (ecosystem) will instinctively try to self preserve by attacking the parasite. Everything that happened to the human race afterwards is our ecosystem trying to stop us from destroying it. The jewish parasitical destruction of humanity came out of this line of natural self defense, by creating an adversary (anti-body) against the poisonous parasite that is humanity.

88 stands for eights let in the alphabet which is H

88 means Heil Hitler.

14 is the 14 words of some dude that said something like "the beauty of Arian women will never leave the world"

Yeah, but if they don't want to go full 88 we should accept it, otherwise we risk them dropping the 14 ideology.
The whole approach needs to be similar to the way the left has been working the last 20years.
We now have some left dogma that is mass accepted by normies which was viewed as extreme left dogma 20 years ago.

Then you will never convert the normies

Are you drunk? Be honest.

This

Wrong, jew. You'd be suprised how many minorities are anti-Semitic.

I think he intentionally left that out, because he thought the demographic situation in Europe is so dire that deporting shitskins is an absolute emergency, trumping everything else, even the JQ.
That's what transpires from his manifesto, as there are definitly hints that he was well aware of that stuff. If I'm right, I share his opinion.

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This is 14. 88 failed, we won't

Deportations of Muslims will never happen with the JQ un-answered. You can't have 14 without the 88. Its that simple. No amount of mental gymnastics will make pro-jew nationalism useful.

They may be dead but the ideology and their ideas are not.
Different is that we have to avoid the same mistakes they did and take back our nations by a different approach and potentially fighting a war with another country that they still have control over.

This is 4D chess all over again.

There is room for parasite in the ecosystem. In fact ecosystem needs some parasite to be more balanced.
There are ones who will eat and the ones who will be eaten.
However there are still rules for the strong and these should be to not overpopulate and take only so much food as the ecosystem offers
Strong (humans) can still have war with each other but they must make sure they have enough food for the future.

The fuck.

the 14 words are
"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children,”
Nothing about Aryan nothing about women, this Aryan fetish is real strange, all Aryans are not white but all whites are Aryan.

Cathloic opened the gates for islam?
I never heard of this before.

This. Tarrant appeals to the same retards who supported Trump. The jews know they can always steer the low-iq portion of the right away from being jew-woke.

(((they))) are the real enemy of every society in the world.
88 is almost more important than 14.
stop jewish wars, stop the rapefugees, stop the replacement of whites.
it's all about the Jew. All of it.

But wait a minute if israel wanted sympathy couldn't they stage an attack against themselves instead?

They are lemmings/npc the only way to get them back is to take back our nations and starting to reprogram them.

14 opens the door for 88, we've only just unlocked the door.

This.

Aren't jews parasites I mean the one who hates nature and wants to destroy it are jews.
Europeans love nature well at least in the past they did and nsdap germany I am not to sure about now.

Do people like jews enough to care what happens to them?

Lessons of history should be remembered, his world view should be taken for an example, but we should not make some kind of demigod out of Adolf. He is a hero to germans, and those who aren't germans should strive to find inspiration in their own history.
Although the swastika should respected and adapted in some way, be it the black sun or some other version, but it is a symbol of tradition, old and powerful.

No. People are slowly forgetting about the holocaust.

Its mostly jewish industry and commerce that's ravaging the ecosystem.

This dude speaks to Nazi Aliens and has the same Eyes Look like the murderers, shooters and terrorists. Is there a spiritual link?

Looks he has the Third Eye Open eheh

See it this way…Temptation exists in nature, which means existence is a test, but not just a test to keep the balance of natural laws, while struggling for survival. We were given a consciousness, and the compass to judge between right and wrong (common sense) so that we can navigate the struggle more easily. We were meant to be creators for this ecosystem, because it's us who can create truly worthy individuals, by creating a stable collective (blood and race) out of a healthy environment. These individuals then have the abilities to uplift the entire collective with their creations. In all of our history we only saw glimpses of what humans could've achieved had they lived in accordance to the laws of nature. Instead we corrupted the entire process of individuality into hedonistic worshiping, while ignoring nature. Today everyone thinks he's an individual, yet in the history books you only find a handful of names. The rest is forgotten.

Better be talking to aliens then receiving marching orders to go on a shoo spree

Nice find

OHHH MY GOOOOD!!!!

You have posted on the wrong place leftpol is down the hall on the left, on the door is written "Brausebad"
I hope I could help you Shlomo

Disagree user. Recognizing parallels between current year and weimar Germany led me to learning more about 88 which naturally brought me to 14

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You are a disgrace to the white race

He met a witch.

Witching will coming for alt-right soon. They are all indexed. It's part of the Great Divide (left-right) they are planning… heard it in the astrals.

They are telling spiritual folks the devil has lost but this is the lie. The devil is near getting 100% control. They control the astral realm now.

I always had the feeling about aliens being demons.
And more a believer for things like new swabia

Nothing is on the Antarctic… it's a psychic implant in Targeted Individuals

And people who really got abducted can't tell the difference between snow in Alaska or Siberia and the South Pole especially when being controlled.

I dont think humanity are parasites when that is the other way around.
Jews tend to harm nature them selves and hate it.

google it son if you don't believe me.

that about Aryan women is just a metaphor.

I'm saying New Swabia is a Remote Neural psychic implant. If you go there you won't find a thing.

It's a distraction just like it's Nazis , they are Communists pretending Nazis and pretending anti-white (to catch you later in the roundup) and they are in your cities and around you right now and not on the friqqing Antarctic.

That's probably for the best. Progressive thinking is associated with high IQ.

He pulled that out of his ass. His superior told him think of anti-jewish topics and replace jews with groups the jew don't like Catholics, Nazis, Hitler etc. You get the idea.

Now back to the important problem
Should we disown Uncle Adolf?
Maybe normal fags will love us if we just loud enough declare that we are no nazis!

Yes, but so are we, and them acting against us is in accordance to the laws of nature. The host uses self preservation to create defenses that attack the parasite, and that created the parasite inside the parasite. This also explains why jews are using our traits against us, while creating nothing for themselves.

jews are the worst parasites.
But all animals who eat others are to some level. Point was that humans only eat other animals and consume resources act therefore like parasites.
Eating other animals means you are higher on animal hierarchy. Parasites were needed to keep nature's resource management ok (niggers breeding too much, AIDS comes out of nowhere). However humans were fine before kikes.

The problem with humans is that they use too much resources and materials. We should evolve from there to be completely god-like creatures by making us stronger genetically.
I see that humans should become healthy leaders for our ecosystem, to take care of the nature and make it stronger. We first need get rid of all retards who would use their power for wrong reasons.
We also need competition with worthy a enemy, to keep us on high standards

Interesting.
Mind telling me where you found the info of it not existing there?

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We cannot blame them for everything. In all of recorded history mankind only ever took, with little to nor regard to any form of balance. Our progress forward was always away from nature, without realizing that it sustains our existence. Every tree or animal taking out has a consequence on everything, and exploiting this without understanding the importance of the natural laws is by definition suicidal. And we are the ones given a consciousness, we are able to understand this, so there are no excuses.

Mind listing me the actions that humans (europeans) did that got them jews in the first place?
I mean jews had been here for a long time since they are neanderthals.
But maybe I do see your point.

If we say that we are not nazis then they will just scream "nazi, nazi, nazi"
Trick is to declare that you are a nazi
Make it normal for everyone to be a nazi

If that was the case then was becoming christain a mistake? I mean the pagans at least the germans were worshipping nature and from what I read from titus (might be someone else) on how they are saying that they tend to be more morally right than they were, but was it because pagans or the germans back then were closer to nature than the romans were?

meant for

Because I hate the people who are orchestrating out genocide?

just ignore this post I still meant for
I am getting tired and doing work in excel. This thread is really tiring

I am not gonna call my self a slur word
I will be calling my self national socialist while others will call me nazi.

To a normie reading his stuff.
To us however his stance on the JQ is very clear from his answers.
His intent was to being 14 to the forefront of our social consciousness and probably felt introducing 88 memes would distract from that. And he was right because the media would otherwise be able to leverage sympathy for the jew as usual and water down divert demonize and distract from his primary message of 14.
Again this does not suggest he was not 88