I believe that the Cofnas critique has essentially debunked the JQ, lets debate

Christopher Russell
Christopher Russell

I will not respond to memes or inforgraphs. I only want to talk about this at an intellectual level.

Some points I find most convincing.

Non orthodox Jews in america intermarry at a rate of 71 percent. Too high to be tribal as a group. Obviosuly when whites intermix at such high rates you say that its white genocide, so Jews doing it should elicit the same response, it is a behavior that will destroy their group.

Jews in america are more likely to say Trump is too favorable on Israel than Christians are.

And of course, the example in MacDonalds work were shown to actually be examples that work against against MacDonalds own theory.

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davidduke.com/will-intermarriage-end-jewish-ethnocentrism/
angelfire.com/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf
invidio.us/watch?v=XNWF9CeoZdE
gss.norc.org/get-the-data
youtube.com/watch?v=kNDBOP7b7bg
archive.is/c6PQu
archive.is/hGVh9
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unz.com/article/reply-to-nathan-cofnas/
pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/11/12/what-happens-when-jews-intermarry/
researchgate.net/publication/327252296_ONE_MORE_TIME_A_REPLY_TO_COFNAS'S_CRITIQUE_OF_MY_REPLY_TO_HIS_CRITIQUE_OF_DUTTON
voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-myth-of-jewish-intelligence.html

Henry Gray
Henry Gray

I will not respond to memes or inforgraphs. I only want to talk about this at an intellectual level.
if you want to discuss things on an intellectual level then maybe you should learn English first you pajeet fuck

Mason Williams
Mason Williams

Im waiting for you to respond. Ive seen how Mike Enoch and the gang havent been able to get around to reading the 20 page paper. I assume most people here arent capable of reading it either

Colton Phillips
Colton Phillips

I was told this place was a congregation of high iq aryan gods. Im waiting to see if thats any true. I understand you white guys are used to letting jews teach you basic stuff, so I thought you wouldve read Cofnas

Tyler Hill
Tyler Hill

I believe that the Cofnas critique has essentially debunked the JQ
How so?
Please be as detailed as possible. I'll wait.

Austin Brooks
Austin Brooks

MacDonalds own examples work against his theory. For example, Kmac lists around 20 jews in his New York intellectual chapter, Cofnas pointed out that only two of those listed by Macdonald worked for him.

Also, Jews intermarrying at around 70 percent essentially debunks any notion of the being tribal as a group

Daniel Nguyen
Daniel Nguyen

what proportion are the jew in this study to the global population?

also, how does this answer the JQ?

Evan Scott
Evan Scott

Cancer spreading to other hosts is a reproduction strategy for a cancer.

Jayden Allen
Jayden Allen

non orthodox jews in america

im basing this off of macdonalds version of the jq where jews have a group evolutionary strategy to subvert their host nations

Austin Perry
Austin Perry

Because when a Jew mixes with a gentile, they produce Jewish children. This is because of their religion, not their race. It IS about their race, but also their religion. We despise both.

When whites mix with other races, the offspring they produce are not white. The offspring will lose much of the traits that a white person usually has. Instead they will have, darker skin, different skeletal structure, dark hair, and dark eyes/slanted if asian. And they won't inherit a "white" religion to ensure they stay within the bounds of a culture group.

TLDR: white people don't have a religion that turns their half-breeds into de facto white people like the Jews do. Plus Jews are already mixed race anyway so it doesn't matter.

Carson Hall
Carson Hall

kike enoch
muh intellect
muh can't spell despite it
Fuck off retard. There is no debunking kike control of the USSA, USSR, and EUSSR, and much of Asia. There is no debunking kike privilege. Go read some official ZOG shit about how Whites are ebil or whatever. No one here is going to debate you, particularly when you didn't lurk the two years (mandatory). Reported. Let's see if mods are alive.

Anthony Jones
Anthony Jones

again, how representative is this of the jewish population?

how is intermarriage an example that they don't subvert the host population?

Brandon Moore
Brandon Moore

If you think the religion will keep mixed jews in the group, you have to realize that jews identifying by religion is declining fast and that jews are the most secular group in america

Austin Thomas
Austin Thomas

There is no debate, the facts are in, nothing to tell you other than you're a troll/jidf/moron.

Samuel Lopez
Samuel Lopez

The facts are against you here. Its not my fault that you get so triggered by having your ideology debunked so clearly.

Muh Jews are so tribal
Jews intermarry at around 70 percent

pick one plz

Jayden Anderson
Jayden Anderson

Found you

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James Hill
James Hill

Only on in ten of american jews are orhtodox. There you go

The idea of them subverting the host population by mixing with them is not a part ofthe jq according to MacDonald. Most proponents of the jq believe that jews are tribal, but believing that they are tribal and marrying out at such a high rate is too hard to believe. And MacDonald tried to prove subversion by Jews but his examples were shown to not work with MacDonalds theory when Cofnas researched them

Gavin Clark
Gavin Clark

They aren't religious but they teach the traditions anyway. And if not by parents, then by aunts and uncles. Jews stick close to one another anywhere they are so that they can look after each other.

Daniel Wood
Daniel Wood

what percentage of the jewish population are the new york jews that took part in the study?

how is intermarriage contrary to tribalism?

Blake Jackson
Blake Jackson

This seems like a pretty weak argument for suggesting that they will remain Jewish

Wyatt Phillips
Wyatt Phillips

Honestly this is kind of a troll thread. They consider anyone with Jewish blood to be Jews so it really doesn't compare. They are still tribal, they just have different rules than we do.

Julian Collins
Julian Collins

I feel like you are wanting to prove me wrong by claiming that the study is wrong. Its not, David Duke and Kevin MacDonald both admit that Jews intermarry at a high rate

davidduke.com/will-intermarriage-end-jewish-ethnocentrism/

Jeremiah Watson
Jeremiah Watson

So because they will consider someone with a low percentage of jewish blood a jew means they are tribal?

Sebastian Parker
Sebastian Parker

This whole thread is a pretty weak attempt to troll. Comparing apples to oranges you guys are.

Jews consider everyone with a drop of Jew blood, Jewish. Whites do not consider people with 50% of blood white. Two different rules. Both are tribalistic within the stock of these rules.

Hunter Jenkins
Hunter Jenkins

Its really not a troll thread. The jq relies on confirmation bias mostly. Its really pretty dumb when you look at the evidence

Logan Garcia
Logan Garcia

Yes it does, because they require Jewish blood to exist in that person to consider them part of the tribe.

Camden Hernandez
Camden Hernandez

You need to show tribalism to say they are tribal. Why are Jews more likely than Christians to say Trump favors Israel too much?

Benjamin Cox
Benjamin Cox

Jews intermarry a lot therefore my obervation that jews do a lot of bad things in my society are not valid? Fuck off.

Nobody hates jews because they think they keep to themselves. People hate jews because they don't belong in our society and they fill it up with smut, subversion, and usury.

Jaxon Ortiz
Jaxon Ortiz

morning Rabbi

Anthony Martin
Anthony Martin

Why won't you answer the question?

Michael Davis
Michael Davis

No evidence has been presented.

OP banned infographics(stats)

Few of you have cited any stats.

So how? Tell me how the evidence stacks in your favor.

Nice ad hominem. The hallmark of the victor in debate.

Gavin Baker
Gavin Baker

Non orthodox Jews in america intermarry at a rate of 71 percent. Too high to be tribal as a group

The Jewish gene pool is so poisoned over centuries of inbreeding and dysgenics that if Jews don't send out sacrificial lambs to the goyum their cursed blood will render them a dead-end as a sub-species.

Luis Barnes
Luis Barnes

Non orthodox Jews in america intermarry at a rate of 71 percent.

You're full blown retarded user. This is part of the kike strategy. Look at Yael Kushner. They use intermarrying as a path to power. Since if you're mother is a kike you're a kike, then it doesn't matter if they marry off their women 100% of the time. Also if they've used marrying their sons to rich and powerful daughters as a path to controlling vast amounts of money.

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Anthony Jenkins
Anthony Jenkins

You do realize that Jews are on the left and the right, its just because of their high iq that they are always on top

Eli Clark
Eli Clark

Because not every Jew is a zionist. What does that prove? Some Jews have different views on the future of their race.

Kevin Stewart
Kevin Stewart

I know what you are doing, the study is valid, its been accepted by people in the far right

Isaiah Smith
Isaiah Smith

You're gay

Jacob Ross
Jacob Ross

idgaf if they are on the left or the right. Your attempt at reframing the argument against jews over and over is fucking stupid, and you are fucking stupid.

People hate jews because they do shit like fill the internet with pornography and then call people antisemites for wanting to stop rubbing their dicks to it constantly. That has nothing to do with left-right politics.

Cameron Cox
Cameron Cox

Jews are claimed to be tribal, yet intermarry at around 70 percent in america
Jews are more likely to say trump is too favorable towards israel than Christians.
MacDonalds work was shown to be bunk

Joshua Morgan
Joshua Morgan

tried what?

Hunter Ortiz
Hunter Ortiz

Some Jews have different views on the future of their race.
Assuming they have a future.

Elijah Hall
Elijah Hall

still not answering the question

how representative are the new york jews that took part in this study of the global population of jews?

how is intermarriage contrary to tribalism?

David Lopez
David Lopez

This is so stupid. You think 70 percent are marrying high elite gentiles? That means jews under the iq of 115 are marrying top tier people

Matthew Adams
Matthew Adams

How can marrying out of existence be an idea for the future of jews?

Benjamin Gutierrez
Benjamin Gutierrez

Here is "Culture of Critique" which details explicitly jewish action against what would be considered traditional white society as a sociological phenomenon.
angelfire.com/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf

As to your assertion regarding the fact that jews are now interbreeding with libshit whites, we already knew this dumbass. We've talked about it. The jewish conspiracy does not imply total competency nor a long term plan which actually ensures their survival as a distinct enthographic unit. They were a distinct unit and up to this generation have remained so, but they have drunk their own koolaid and are now dying as a result. And the liberal whites are also kikey faggots who also need to be exterminated. The well supported hypothesis is that both the kikes themselves and the libshits are expressing behavioral traits which are inherent to their lines of descent and highly heritable. Kikes seem to be destructive even to themselves unless heavily coerced against it. Liberal whites are addicted to social signaling thus in one age they will be Puritians who spend their time taking about how devout they are without any real personal conviction and in the modern day they are libshits who constantly bitch at society and signal how morally superior they are by their own modern materialist standards whiles often being massive hypocrites.

Just because they are fucking up society and conspiring to fuck us over doesn't mean they have a good plan to survive themselves, their natural inclination towards self destructive behavior is causing this shit, they need to die so that those behaviors cease to exist. This isn't a difficult concept to grasp, all behavior is 93% inheritable. Therefore all those expressing shitty behavior should be killed to eliminate the propensity for that behavior from the population. This can include kikey nepotism, libshit hall-monitor incessant bitching, or shitskin stupidity.

Killing them all is in our interest, the fact that they are killing themselves with their stupidity doesn't mean anything other than that they are helping us kill them.

Blake Peterson
Blake Peterson

if you think getting rid of jews would remove porn you are severely mistaken. Its like thinking that if you got rid of jews you wouldnt get movies anymore since they founded hollywood

Nathan King
Nathan King

high iq that they are always on top

Average IQ of Israel is less than 100, which is lower than the white average. Ashkenazi make up about 40% of the population, 20% Arab and the rest being other groups of Sephardic Jew. Arab IQ is typically in the mid to high 80s, and Sephardic Jews are about the same or only slightly higher. Averaging it all out the average European Jew is only on par with whites. They cannot claim success due to an IQ a full standard deviation greater than whites, because data that suggests this comes from studies containing data that is not randomly selected from Jewish populations. They came from high property value neighborhoods. Who lives in such places? People with money already and therefore more likely to be smart.

It's the same thing Asians do too, by the by.

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William Edwards
William Edwards

This is why you guys are so stupid. You think jews can be tribal and intermarry at such a high rate because they need to be the big bad. Its obviously a contradiction

Gavin Foster
Gavin Foster

It isn't. That isn't possible. Jews will have Jewish kids no matter who they marry. It is their tradition and no amount of mixing will change anything since they are already mixed.

Mason Rivera
Mason Rivera

The orthodox jews do not intermarry at any rates, only the liberal (like liberal whites not having children at replacement level) not practicing atheist jews marry outside of their group, they also share the same low "western" birthrates, the hasid (orthodox jewish) communities have significantly more energetic birthrates like mormons and other fundamentalists in the west. So in the long run only the non miscegenating hasids will remain.

Hunter Williams
Hunter Williams

how is it a contradiction?

Liam Phillips
Liam Phillips

Well jews were behind the push to legalize pornography and they absolutely control the industry. When young men started helping each other get out of chronic pornography consumption xHamster took to twitter to cry about antisemitism. Even if removing them wouldn't completely eradicate the problem, they still deserve to be cast out of our society for creating the problem in the first place. Punishment.

Oliver Ortiz
Oliver Ortiz

Go meme somewhere else. You guys got fucked so you're just ignoring us and trolling.

Nolan Ramirez
Nolan Ramirez

Im sorry but Jews do have a higher iq than whites. Its why around half of the chess champions throughout history have been Jewish

Samuel Reyes
Samuel Reyes

Fuck face OP. The act of Nazis impregnating qt pie jewesses and asshole Jewish producers impregnating chinks is considered the SILENT HOLOCAUST.

Jayden Gutierrez
Jayden Gutierrez

Great they can go play chess in Israel then and leave us alone. Maybe gathering all the high-iq jews together in their own nation will allow them to figure out how to stop this mysterious problem where everyone throughout history always hates them.

Hudson Smith
Hudson Smith

Then why do ultra orthodox jews in Israel not want jews to mix. Its obvious that the less religious the jew, the less tribal they behave

David Peterson
David Peterson

A group that has a strong tribal connection could not intermarry. It simply does not work

Jacob Edwards
Jacob Edwards

how is that obvious?

Noah Torres
Noah Torres

why not?

Landon Young
Landon Young

As I said to another person. Some Jews have different views on the future of their race. Just because Jews do not agree 100% on something, it doesn't make it invalid to point it out.

Benjamin Moore
Benjamin Moore

Porn has existed since the roman times. Its always going to exist

Jaxon Hall
Jaxon Hall

i believe
essentially debunk
Doubt.jpg
Either something is true or it's false.
Truth and falsehood can be defined using predictable patterns or absolute evidence.
invidio.us/watch?v=XNWF9CeoZdE
38:20 onward.

I will not respond to memes or infographs.
Then you will not respond to predictable patterns of behavior, which means you cannot accurately process external information in a way that allows you to come to repeatable conclusions.
You're a soft-brain retard.
GTFO

Logan Cook
Logan Cook

The extant kikes were created when a group of the now extinct "hebrew" race interbred with various asiatics, levantines, and whites. Most of the whites were those who sold their daughters into marriage to cover debts. This is all covered in Macdonald's work. This outbred population then inbred for generations forming several distinct talmudic "jewish" populations which though related distantly where distinct from one another. These include Sephardi, Ashkenazim, ect. These populations all exhibit behaviors of extreme nepotism and tribal interest in societies in which they dwell and have alienated those societies over and over again. However recently they have begun to outbreed again. Why? Because partly through their own disgusting efforts and due to the natural of industrial society certain preexisting constraints on expression of behavior have broken down. And they are not immune to this breakdown despite being one of the biggest contributing factors to it.

Currently white conservatives have a birthrate of 2.7, white liberals 0.9, jews 0.8, hispanics 1.7, blacks 1.2, and “others” 1.3. The only demographic in any industrial nation which is breeding at or above replacement level are right wing whites in America. That is why they are so desperate to import more non-whites, without that importation by 2050 America would be 75% white again and the vast majority would be voting so "conservatively" that the GOP would not have been politically viable by the 80s. Similarly we see fecundity of shitskins tank when they are imported into Europe, down to 1.6 which is little better than the native population as an aggregate. Certainly the cause seems to be hedonism and distraction of all types even abstract intellectual distractions we don't commonly consider hedonism. Remember that in the past most leisure activity was social and thus it would introduce young men and women with one another increasing the rate of contact between compatible mates. Remember than in the past society coerced them into breeding and caring for the offspring. Remember that in the past there was no option to engage in regular sexual activity(not counting sodomy ect) without the possibility of procreation. In the paleoenvironment selective pressure did not strongly apply to hedonism as it did not impinge upon fecundity; not only were ancillary distractions rare and expensive due to the material poverty but what distractions did exist where tied to familiar and community life which to an extent facilitated reproductive activity rather than interfere with it.
gss.norc.org/get-the-data

Parker Harris
Parker Harris

they would mix themselves into a new genetic group. Thus the group would no longer exist as a distinct group

Gabriel Gomez
Gabriel Gomez

let's debate
Debating the jew is useless.

Henry Hall
Henry Hall

Mass porn consumption and a porn industry worth billions? No that hasn't always existed.

Lucas Kelly
Lucas Kelly

There are also other behavioral predispositions besides hedonism that play into reproductive behaviors and also that in the past children provided financial security and thus were not detrimental to the long term prosperity of the individual. Those "conservative" whites live in America where food is cheap, they live in rural areas were free distraction is plentiful, they have more STEM degrees than liberal whites both per capita and in total, they have more disposable income than liberal whites and thus could buy more distractions. Yet they are breeding while all others are not, why is that? Because most of them are the descendants of cruel, taciturn populations: Cavaliers, German Mercenaries exiled after the 30 years war, expats of all sorts ex. They are naturally brutal people with inherent predispositions towards an insular religiosity, clannishness, stocism, racism, and hatred of all sorts. They are the strong ones, they are ones who have reject modernity as a matter of course because it is eminently natural for them to do so, they cannot accept modernity no matter how much society demands them to do so. The use the fruits of modern technology be feel little interest in the behaviors associated with it. If it wasn't for the importation of hundreds of millions of shitskins this situation would have been a boon not a curse. Our race would be purged of the weak in a far more complete and merciless than any eugenics program could have managed, because natural selection via the voluntary suicide of all libtards, pussies, faggots, and hedonists would over generations have scoured their genes from the breeding population. And still is in the white rural areas, this division always existed in white populations but now it has effectively created too distinct populations with minimal gene transfer, this is the what the beginning speciation looks like.

Anthony Lee
Anthony Lee

Thats fine so has rape and murder and usury. That doesn't mean I want people who do all of those things walking around in my society doing them without consequence. You are a huge faggot.

Brayden Morgan
Brayden Morgan

Porn became a billion dollar industry because of demand for it and the internet, not jews

Nolan Perry
Nolan Perry

inbred kikes in the United States intermarry mutting themselves up
jq isn't real

Go and check marriage laws in Israel and how Jewish elite conduct themselves in terms of marriage. That kike down the street that works for your local school isn't the topic of discussion. Jews are on a tier system, and they function on different levels. Once you start observing you realize they have 3 different levels of function.
Criminal
Clown
Civilian

The criminals are ones that sit out of site and operate on enormous financial levels. Perfect example for instance is George Soros. He avoids being in public eye. Criminals are extremely intellegent and run on debt and investments. When investments fail they commit crimes in grey areas and walk away claiming losses or just abusing the economic system and paying off politicians. They are protected by the clown class. Read below.

The clowns operate in Hollywood, Media, and entertainment for goys. Lets check out Harvey Weinstein. He is one of the most powerful individuals in hollywood, he is a criminal. What happened when he faced enormous backlash? The clowns came to the rescure, defending everything they could. Why? They get jobs and paid enormous amounts to do it. When a clown fucks up, they get thrown under the bus and forgotten. The criminals bring more clowns into the picture. It works the same way as the media.

The civilian. These are more interesting and actually have a greater effect. Typically financially succesful and standup people in a community. They almost always vote gibs but some of them will vote cuckservative. Either way they will support the Zionist state of Israel over there own nation. These are the ones you talk to daily at work or school. These are the ones who intermarry. These are the majority. These are Low Class. Even if they are rather wealthy engineers or network security administrators. The more successful ones operate sliding into medical and law.

And back to the start, you should really resesarch Israels marriage laws around religion and how the country operates. If Israels methods of governing, voting, and marrying where implemented in the United States with the replacement of Jews with WASP. The amount of kvetching, ape noises, and other races screeches would turn the world inside out. The privilege that jews have is unfathomable. Imagine being the greatest victims in the world while controlling it completely.

OP is a fag 2

Aiden Young
Aiden Young

They are a distinct group, despite intermarrying with Europeans for centuries.

How can that be?

Jeremiah Anderson
Jeremiah Anderson

We've seen bullshit like the libtards before, the Cathars were accepting of homosexuality, vice of all sorts, and even murder. They encouraged people not to breed, and thought that because the world was filthy and fallen nobody should have children and that no authority should control them because it was temporal, except for the Cathar Elect of course. Sound familiar? How many times has a libtard bitched to you about overpopulation and how you are selfish for bringing children into a world were they suffer, you are selfish for not adopting a little nignog because muh overpopulation, you are selfish for doing anything biologically adaptive and placing your family before shitskins you've never met. And when you point out that we could just stop feeding the shitskins and billions would die off in the first ten years they have no material rebuttal they and only sputter and stammer "W-W-WACIST!"

This is the same sickness we as a race have always had. The Catholic Church organized the extermination of all adult Cathars under the request of France and the German states because these faggots were trying to destroy society. But they didn't purge enough it seems, the Cathars were never that big and the Inquisition was created to prevent another heresy of that sort. And it did, and it only cost 4,500 lives at most over an 800 year period to do it. The Inquisition essentially invented modern investigative law because they weren't a secular court looking for scapegoats to throw to the outraged mob. They were actually trying to stop heresy.

But it was a mistake and yes any NatSoc plan of forcing these fags to act like humans would also be a mistake. We should just let all those who don't have a predisposition to survive die off, ZA VINAL ZOLUTION IV YOU VILL!

Zachary Peterson
Zachary Peterson

Your big statements seem to be 70% Jewish intermarriage and something about CoC isnt as damning as it should be. Both of these points do not nullify the following: Jewish interests spread in media, control of media, control of news outlets, cryptojewish destructive seeding, and Jewish names behind political corruption, misrepresentation politically. Etc, etc.

Just an honest question and not the usual Zig Forums kneejerk. Are you jewish? Because I sense a little confirmation bias in your posts. You may be Irish, which sometimes is just as bad.

Bentley Lee
Bentley Lee

Porn isnt bad for you though. The only people who believe hat are retards who believe in nofap

my people
kek, you must be an american

Easton Hall
Easton Hall

No, it really doesn't. The only way to be tribal is as a group, and I can show you thousands of rabbis who support open borders in the US. That's tribalism. That 70% aren't intermarrying to exist in a dominant culture, because judaism dominates the culture from kikestianity to the hollywood, to the food we eat which must be blessed by rabbis.

But let me ask you, what do you actually know about the JQ? Looks to me like you listened to an eceleb or read a tiny, smug blog.

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Evan Martinez
Evan Martinez

porn isn't bad for you

Porn isn't something that white people traditionally have tolerated, and most of us would like to continue with that tradition. If you kikes like porn so much go do it somewhere else and leave us along.

Nicholas Price
Nicholas Price

Thats exactly why they have become less and less distinct over time. Without their religion they are basically just another group of whites.

Easton Harris
Easton Harris

Porn isnt bad for you though.
OP isn't worth responding to. Please use sage. Let the thread die.

Parker Reyes
Parker Reyes

It does though, the orthodox jews stick to their ways super majority of the time, they talk of this in their own magazines even. What is happening is that the non ethnocentric jews or liberal jews leave the group core group while the core orthodox jews still remains and grows.

strong tribal connection
only some jews in some way have this strong tribal connection, the liberal jews do not and so they are bred out.

Same thing as in many other fundamental religious groups. You could say the unsuitable and unstable individuals leave and the core group remains. Colonization in european history might well be the same system in function.

Alexander Smith
Alexander Smith

how have jews become less distinct over time?

Daniel Rivera
Daniel Rivera

Demand is just a dogwhistle for temptation. They were tempted into buying that junk. Just because there is a large audience for something doesnt make it ok. Illegal drug trade is worth a trillion dollars world wide. Is that ok? Is that ok just because millions want drugs? No it fucking isnt. Capitalism has brainwashed you into a "BIG GDP GOOD" pawn. Bigger GDP is not always worth it.

Jaxson King
Jaxson King

Ive read kevin macdonalds book and listened to various believer of the jq. Its all rather stupid when you look at it. You can tell how stupid you are for thinking your confirmation bias of seeing rabbis support open borders means that the jq is real

Anthony Moore
Anthony Moore

I believe
okay. cool opinion, bro.

Levi Ortiz
Levi Ortiz

some points
the points don't refute anything
you're fucking stupid

Jews in america are more likely to say Trump is too favorable on Israel
leftist Jews aren't happy with Bibi's policies, but they aren't anti-Israel. If you scratch the surface, they're critical of Israel because they BELIEVE ITS BAD FOR JEWS. Ethnocentric does NOT necessarily mean nationalistic, fuckwad

Stopped there bc these are really, really old arguments

lurk 2 years b4 posting again

Easton Butler
Easton Butler

its just because of their high iq that they are always on top
You blew it too early. You are definitely Jewish, with a twinge of morality and conscience. My recommendation would be to lurk and become a Steve Miller type. Everyone else here will tell you what they think you should do since you are jewish.

Nathaniel Watson
Nathaniel Watson

Except porn is bad. Its bad for everyone involved and those who watch it are affected.

John White
John White

lol, sorry for busting your bubble here. I know you think this place is some sort of truth bubble but its not. You guys are clearly wrong about mist of what you talk about here

Blake Campbell
Blake Campbell

Jewish. Dissonance is palpable. You sound female too.

Colton Robinson
Colton Robinson

this is so wrong on many levels. You guys constantly point out that liberal jews are a part of the jq and yet here you are trying to make it look like only the religious ones are

Michael Martinez
Michael Martinez

Did not mean to post 'jewish' as first word.

Jayden Stewart
Jayden Stewart

lol, so you can only be anti israel if you want every israeli to burn am i right?

Thomas Ross
Thomas Ross

there are more jews today than ever existed

Tyler Johnson
Tyler Johnson

debunked jew IQ myth

You're either a troll or retarded.

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Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

more and more jews identify as white. How can that be good for a group? Imagine if whites started doing something like that, youd probably scream white genocide.

Robert Perry
Robert Perry

there are more people today than ever existed

Easton Young
Easton Young

Ohhh are you used to females one upping you?

Nathaniel Gomez
Nathaniel Gomez

She's female. I'm curious what she's fishing for. She's looking for a reason to sleep at night, or she's dating a bageled asshole super jew.

Luke Foster
Luke Foster

literally everyone watches porn and masturbates. Masturbation has been proven to have many health benefits. You have to be a religitard to believe pron is bad, its literally just watching people have sex.

Juan Carter
Juan Carter

You are pointing out the fact that Jews are a culture and not a race. I agree and the problem isn't race it's behavior and it's even something you pointed out with some American Jews concern about Trump's support of Israel. Yes, "not all jews" and in fact I would argue that the people using Judiasm as a human shield to deceive, perpetrate endless wars, division, financial slavery, ect are not actually Jews. Just as pedophile priests could be accused of "not being Christians".
The problem is that the culture of Judaism has a long history of this kind of behavior and philosophy at endorses it is baked into the culture itself such as
1. The talmud (inb4 "misinterpretations" tell that to Jewish scholars and curent and former Jews who point out the accusations are correct and not misinterpretations.
2. Victim consciousness. True or false, right or wrong the Jewish story is one of repeating patterns of persecution and exile. This creates a consciousness where people feel justified in doing anything to survive and perpetuating the very things they suffered from. The same consciousness permeates this forsaken place see: youtube.com/watch?v=kNDBOP7b7bg
3. circumcision is genital mutilation and inherently wrong

It's not the people its the behavior of people within the halls of institutional power and the others who go along with it because they benefit from it in some way. Same as Christians and Muslims.
IMO The big three religions and their banks need to be deconstructed and perpetrators of evil need to face investigations, swift trials and summary executions.

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Samuel Perry
Samuel Perry

No. It does help to understand how you think, and what possible arguements you will have next.

Logan Stewart
Logan Stewart

its only evidence when I say so, otherwise its confirmation bias
Good job, faggot. I also don't believe you have even a bystander's grasp of the JQ. You're really hung up on MacDonald. So you've listened to a ranting eceleb, and that's your exposure. You haven't actually read Culture of Critique or any of thousands of books and papers published elsewhere. Enjoy your porn.

Parker Lee
Parker Lee

how are jews identifying as white making them less distinct as a group?
considering the amount of time they've been intermarrying with Europeans, it's a wonder there's any left

but here we are and there are more jews than ever before

Josiah Watson
Josiah Watson

Jews are around half of the chess champions through history. If you dont think they have high iqs, that would be hard to figure why they have been so good at brain sports

David Turner
David Turner

Well actually white arguably pornography and prostitution have always existed the matter of fact is that the old dominant religion in the west, Christianity did not support this thing, so there were laws even until the 50's in most places in the west that flat out banned it, like i believe israel, china and south korea still do to this day.

After the 50's with the sexual revolution, and hippies etc yadda yadda these laws were removed by lobbying effort of, pure guess but probably jewish interest groups who then for decades had a defacto monopoly on pornography in america at the very least.

Aaron Watson
Aaron Watson

Well they didn't actually intermarry that often until the 1960s, essentially never according to gene frequency charts. However their natural need to shit own host societies has eroded even their own cohesion in a sense and thus intermarriage is increasing between themselves a certain portion of the host population. That portion is one which is already kikey and thus their behaviors are not changing must since offspring exhibit the same behaviors as their parents outside of strong coercion.

Let's look at the opposite number, the rural whites in America they are composed of several seperate populations which interbred however there was strong selective pressure applied to these individuals which ultimately meant that ones which survived and stayed in America to become that population had a certain mentality. Remember that prior to 1965 more than 68% of all immigrants to the US left again. In terms of application of selective pressure that is the same as having 68% of a population die and never breed. They didn't like or could not survive within the cruel taciturn anglo-germanic society that the early settlers who were all warrior classes, mercenaries, reactionaries, or huntsmen created(with the exception of the proto-libtard Roundheads in urban New England who the ones interbreeding with the kikes now).

It doesn't take long to develop group specific behaviors when those who don't fit in are exiled from the group or voluntarily leave and therefore might as well be dead so far as evolutionary models are concerned.

Jack Scott
Jack Scott

No, not literally everyone. I didn't say masturbation was bad, and I didn't mention morality anywhere. Try again, kikel.

Hunter Morris
Hunter Morris

didn't a bunch of kikes marry into nobility during the middle ages? or did they just buy title?

Colton Taylor
Colton Taylor

Also obligatory. mind geek owns 80-90% of porn distribution. Is Jewish backed. Is actively pushing miscegenation. Is pushing incest.

Ian Reyes
Ian Reyes

I have read the book, its quite dull but i read it. The jq is not something taken seriously by academics. Kmac was really the only to do so and he completely messed up in his research to try and prove it.

There is data to see if the jq has any predictive power, and guess what, it doesnt seem so at all

Luke Long
Luke Long

Jf gariepy went though the Cofnas critique of kmac on his show. He went through it word for word and showed how he made 6 shitty arguments.

Jose Davis
Jose Davis

Wow, I really have to explain everything to you dont I. Jews only exist culturally because of their religion. Its why non orthodox jews are marrying out so much. The secularization of the jews will leave as just another group of whites

Christopher Barnes
Christopher Barnes

they're not white though

Austin Adams
Austin Adams

Even if you were to take CoC out of the discussion. There is a problem with media's information distribution, that it always aaligs with Jewish interests and is owned by Jewish.

Mason Flores
Mason Flores

you think watching someone have sex is bad for you

Nathaniel Carter
Nathaniel Carter

Jewish 115 IQ big debunk
ITT we debunk the "Smart Jew" myth, commonly used by cuckold philosemitic faggots to excuse jewish crimes
I'm looking at you Stefbot, you fucking slimy kike.
some of the formatting may fuck up because of how the text was copied, if you whine, you're gay
Is High Jewish IQ the Primary Cause of Jewish Overrepresentation in Western Civilization?
Many claim that Ashkenazi Jews are ‘highly successful’ in the West
due to their extra-ordinarily high average IQ (108 to 115, but most claim it to be 115), which is said to have developed due to the persecution
and oppression that Jews have faced in every single country they have inhabited since their departure from the Middle East, 1,000 to 2,000 years ago. Are “Ashkenazi success due to their high IQ” and “high Ashkenazi IQ due to persecution and oppression” solid hypotheses? Let’s find out!
Firstly, we’ll assume that the claim of 108-115 IQ is completely accurate and honest. Using the USA as an example, let’s calculate how many individuals of the Jewish and the White population groups fit into the ‘highly gifted’ IQ category (135 IQ+).
The number of highly gifted US Whites is over 10.5 x larger than the number of highly gifted US Jews, 4 x larger than the number of highly gifted Jews globally, and almost larger than the entire US Jewish population (gifted or not).
If there are five times more highly gifted Whites in the USA alone than there are highly gifted Jews on the entire planet, then why are Whites so drastically underrepresented in almost all aspects of higher-tier American society, and why are Jews so drastically overrepresented?
Note:
1)We haven’t factored in other high IQ racial groups that perform well in the USA, such as East Asians and Central Asians.
2)The USA contains ~198,000,000 Whites, ~20% of the global White population.
3) USA has the highest quantity of Ashkenazi Jews (outside of Israel).
Jews are admitted to Harvard at 15 times (1,500%) the ratio of equal or better qualified European Americans, and 7.5 times (750%) higher than Asian Americans.
▶Anonymous 12/21/18 (Fri) 23:15:56 10ba4d No.12591648>>12591650 >>12591651
12591643 (OP)
Where did the claim of the average Ashkenazi IQ of 108-115 originate, and is it reliable?
The most frequently cited studies on Ashkenazi IQ are: Bachman, 1970; Levin, 1977; Levinson, 1959; Seligman, 1992; Storfer, 1990; Herrstein, 1994; Romanoff, 1976; Block 1977. Wow - isn’t that interesting - almost all of these people are all Jewish! Is it feasible that some of these individuals may have had ulterior motives which led them to use biased methodology, sample populations, or to report results dishonestly?
Fact: It is well documented that the Chinese have fraudulently boosted their national average IQ (105) by using methods such as testing only their best and brightest.
Fact: Jews were denied entry into the USA under the 1924 Immigration Act because their IQs tested significantly lower than Whites.
According to data on Israel’s average IQ, Ashkenazi Jews somehow managed to gain a two standard deviation IQ advantage over Middle Eastern Jews in under two millennia. According to Out of Africa theory, Whites took over fifty millennia to gain a two standard deviation IQ advantage over Blacks.
Avg. IQ of Israel:
95
Avg. IQ of Arabs (25% of pop.):
84 (calculated via mean of average Levantine Arab state IQs)
Avg. IQ of Jews (75% of pop.):
98.7
Calculation, for reference:
(84 x 25 / 100) + (98.7 x 75 / 100) = 95.025
Avg. IQ of Israeli Jews:
98.7
Avg. IQ of Ashkenazi (48% of Jews):
115 (or 111)
Avg. IQ of Other Jews (52% of Jews):
83.7 (or 87.4)
Calculation, for reference:
(115 x 48 / 100) + (83.7 x 52 / 100) = 98.7
(111 x 48 / 100) + (87.4 x 52 / 100) = 98.7
Is 1,000 to 2,000 years of divergent evolution, interbreeding with 92 IQ Eastern European Whites, and “being oppressed and persecuted” enough to cause this dramatic of an increase in average IQ in such a short space of time? Is the Occam’s Razor explanation that Ashkenazim of Israel simply hacked their national average IQ, employing methods used similarly by the Chinese?

Tyler Reed
Tyler Reed

you don't

Robert Hughes
Robert Hughes

Despite living in Europe for 1-2,000 years, Ashkenazi Jews still genetically cluster with Arab racial groups, which have a total average IQ of approximately 84, ranging from 82-87.
One Israeli study found that there was a difference of 14 IQ points between Ashkenazim and other Israeli Jews (almost one SD).
This is a more plausible scenario, given that Ashkenazim have White admixture, and have only lived in White civilizations for 1,000 to 2,000 years. This difference is also in line with the IQ separation between Whites and Arabs (~100 IQ and ~85 IQ).
Hypothesis 1)
Average Ashkenazi IQ is about 106, non-Ashkenazi Jews about 92.
(106 x 48 / 100) + (92 x 52 / 100) = 98.7
= Jewish average IQ,
as per Israel avg. IQ
Conclusion 1)
Unlikely scenario, considering that native Levantine Jews most probably share the same average IQ as native Levantine Arabs,
due to their genetic similarity, and evolving in the same environmental conditions. Ashkenazim caught telling lies about their high average IQ.
Hypothesis 2)
Average Ashkenazi IQ is about 98, non-Ashkenazi Jews about 84.
(98 x 48 / 100) + (84 x 52 / 100) = 90.7
= Jewish average IQ,
doesn’t match Israel avg. IQ
Conclusion 2)
More likely scenario, taking into account that Ashkenazim are racially mixed with 92 IQ Eastern Europeans, have only been out of the Levant for 1-2,000 years, and how biologically similar Levantine Jews are
to Levantine Arabs. Ashkenazim caught telling very big lies about
their high average IQ.
Hypothesis 3)
It’s more bogus nonsense.
Can “oppression” and “persecution” increase the IQ of a population group? Let’s ask our friend Global IQ Map about the persecuted and oppressed peoples of the globe:
Unfortunately, it looks like their countries’ average IQs are so low that they would mostly be classified as legally mentally retarded.
Observable reality (and accepted leftist social dogmas) confirm that oppression and persecution reduce IQ, so where is the evidence that persecution and oppression can lead to an increase in IQ? Does oppression and persecution somehow affect Jews differently to every other race on Earth? Where did this hypothesis originate?

Adrian Torres
Adrian Torres

JF didnt even understand the paper. Cofnas pointed out that Kmacs ow examples he used worked against his theory. JF speed reads diagonally, its why he didnt understand the paper

Evan Stewart
Evan Stewart

Yes, and additionally, those who call themselves Jews in the modern day are descendants of the Edomites—a tribe that interloped with the peoples of southern Judah, resisted the Judean ethnic majority, helped Nebudchanezzar and the Babylonians attack Judah from within.
The Edomites institute the oral law of the Pharisees, superficially adopting the Jewish religion and then creating the Talmud on top of the existing holy texts to suit the needs of their reproductive strategy.
Then Jesus tried to expose them as frauds, and was crucified. Christianity came about, and was either from the very beginning, or quickly after it was created, subverted by the Pharisees, who now we’re the clergymen of the new religion of Christianity, that adopted Germanic values and encroached into Europe over hundreds of years until there was no opposition to it. Then they were Russian, and Polish, and German.
They “are” whatever culture they are a parasite of so long as it suits them, which is why many of them are now separating from religion and identifying as secular—while still remaining connected to the related people within Israel. (Ben Shapiro mentioned this in a recent BBC interview.)
They claim there is one human race while they intermarry with the other races so that their familial ties transcend all cultural boundaries. This is akin to institutional nepotism like in academia or mass media, but instead in the realm of entering bloodlines of geopolitical figures and producing offspring with an outward appearance as that of the host culture.
The genetic re-engineering of mankind has been in effect for nearly a century. The creation of a caste system is underway.
Israelites, as the name we know them by today, may not be known by the same name after the series of conflicts that looks to be coming within the US and between the US and the rest of the countries in the Greater Levant. Especially since we are quickly transitioning into a post-Christian society, where most of the support for open Zionism had been coming from in recent years.

Robert Butler
Robert Butler

White is arbitrary and since they look white and identify as such they are. They generally group with Italians when you look at where they cluster

Jordan Brooks
Jordan Brooks

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Gabriel Gutierrez
Gabriel Gutierrez

just like how i dont think listening to someone else play music is bad for me.

Aaron Peterson
Aaron Peterson

'''Jewish success in Western civilization
cannot be explained by the highly dubious, Jewish-originated claims that Ashkenazi Jews have an average IQ of 108-115, regardless
of whether these claims are true or not.'''
To reiterate: assuming that the 108-115 claim is accurate, the entire global population of high IQ Jews are outnumbered 4:1 by the US population of high IQ Whites alone. When factoring in the global White population, this number increases to approximately 20:1. However, when Whites and Jews share a country, Whites are disproportionally underrepresented in almost every aspect of society and business.
The Jewish overrepresentation vs White underrepresentation increases in intensity the further one looks up the hierarchies of civilization.
The claim that one can successfully “oppress” and “persecute”
a people into geniuses opposes all evidence across the globe
(aside from the magic Ashkenazim) and completely defies logic.
What is the most likely scenario, with regards to Ashkenazi and other Jewish average IQs? Ashkenazi, around 100; Mizrahi, around 85; Sephardi, around 85.
If not IQ, what are the most likely reasons for Jewish success
in Western civilizations? Nepotism, usury, criminality, immorality, extreme hostility towards non-Jews, and disregard for the happiness
of all non-Jews. They essentially behave as if they were an ethnic mafia.
Read the full list of Jewish expulsions (1,030 times in 1,800 years)
to see historical examples of Jewish misbehavior. An expulsion every
10 years is not coincidental, nor is being expelled for criminal and subversive behavior “persecution”.
Read the Talmud and Torah for more information on how Jews
view non-Jews, and how Jewish scripture tells Jews to behave
towards non-Jews.
Expulsions: archive.is/c6PQu
Talmud: archive.is/hGVh9
Torah: archive.is/S6fTu

Xavier Gray
Xavier Gray

To be quite frank this is very low IQ statement you made, you must be a mizrahi, my condolences.

there exists no exact definition of the JQ, the matter of fact of is that jews do work together for jewish interests in ways that are detrimental to non jews on the average. However not all jews necessarily participate or support this matter, there are self hating jews who are shamed by more in-group positive jews for this terrible act. Jews are humans like the rest of us, probably. There are many shades to this thing.

Leo Clark
Leo Clark

Examine why you feel like you need to prove to a bunch of nazis on the internet why Jews aren't bad. There's a reason there. You are a different shade of shill that I have not seen in s while.

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Justin Jenkins
Justin Jenkins

if racial definitions are arbitrary, then they can be arbitrary jews in addition to jews

Charles Taylor
Charles Taylor

yes yes yes, you have to keep it entirely vague or else you can see the bs you are spewing, its why Kmac got eviscerated when he tried to pin it down

Logan Sanders
Logan Sanders

They don't group with Italians, and being white isn't arbitrary. You're playing coy with the word white.

Samuel Phillips
Samuel Phillips

I just like showing how low iq you all are

Chase Johnson
Chase Johnson

its entirely arbitrary. If you are scientific about it and use the word Caucasian you will be grouped with north africans.

Cameron Price
Cameron Price

Which you haven't done. You've only made a cocksucker of yourself, Nathan.

Caleb Sullivan
Caleb Sullivan

jews intermarry at 70 percent
The point you are trying to make isn't as sharp as you think it is. For starters, if a few paragraphs of CoC is the only thing you are operating on (and it's clear you haven't read it in full) then you are behind the curve, there is simply too much to cover on the topic of the JQ by reducing it to one statistic. But in that regard, jewish intermarrying is necessary for continued genetic fitness of the diaspora (read about all manner of Jewish genetic diseases in your own spare time) and the 'Jewing' of the spouse and offspring in the immediacy, and extended relatives and associates as a delayed influence (poisoning the well). Look up what a shabbos goy is, the corridors of power are filled with them.

The larger human war of the ancients is and has been between two basic survival strategies. They are semitic/asiatic cunning and deception vs aryan strength and intelligence/willpower. The aryan strategy got humanity to where it is/was (at least, as of the mid-20th century), with the semitic influence now living and winning out over the aryan strategy as a parasite of western (aryan) institutions and civilization.

The question remaining is whether the parasite will kill its host before the host wakes up and kills it first.

Luis Lopez
Luis Lopez

Think of it this way, you have Zionkikes and Expatkikes. Zionkikes think the biggest threat is gentiles exterminating kikes after routing them out of society thus they want a bunker to fall back to in times of trouble, that bunker is Israel. The Expatkikes think that Israel itself is painting a massive target on their collective kike backs. They think that the existence of an openly Jewish state makes them all stand out as a distinct group within their host societies and thus might contribute to the formation of anti-kike sentiment which will eventually lead to their extermination or expulsion. Both fear the same thing they just differ in their reaction to that fear.>>13349677
ho now we’re the clergymen of the new religion of Christianity

Ian Powell
Ian Powell

everyone watches porn
Masturbation has been proven to have many health benefits
These two things are not mutually necessary. You can masturbate without porn. There are likely adverse effects on porn consumption specifically, and especially in over consumption. I realize that book "your brain on porn" is not a very good work but it does touch this subject.

Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

Think of it this way, you have Zionkikes and Expatkikes. Zionkikes think the biggest threat is gentiles exterminating kikes after routing them out of society thus they want a bunker to fall back to in times of trouble, that bunker is Israel. The Expatkikes think that Israel itself is painting a massive target on their collective kike backs. They think that the existence of an openly Jewish state makes them all stand out as a distinct group within their host societies and thus might contribute to the formation of anti-kike sentiment which will eventually lead to their extermination or expulsion. Both fear the same thing they just differ in their reaction to that fear.

Anthony Collins
Anthony Collins

non-jews intermarry at a rate of 71% therefore they cannot be a tribal group
Except that despite this intermarrying they retain aspects of jewish culture heritage. Many atheist jews will tell you they still celebrate Hannukah with the family, that they still circumcise their children, that they still congregate primarily with other jewish individuals. If a Chinese man marries a white woman, but he teaches the kid chinese, engages in chinese cultural traditions, socializes with chinese immigrants, is he not tribally chinese simply because he intermarried? Of course he is. Religiously, anyone born to a jewish mother is a jew, genetically, anyone born to intermarriage is half jewish, evidence for this being the fact that Russian jews and French jews are more similar to each other than french and russians are to each other.

Denying Jewish tribalism as a group because of intermarriage is also a red herring done strategically in order to avoid having to refute a single argument made in Culture of Critique which shows that there is indeed nepotism among Jews and people with Jewish heritage. This nepotism is proof of jewish tribalism and in group preference that you cannot refute.

Jews in america more likely to say trump is too favorable to israel than christians are
Do you know who you're even talking to? Why the fuck do you think we call him the Zion Don and his sycophants MIGAniggers? Wow, Jews acknowledge our president is too kind to them, jewish approval of degeneracy and shit like open borders is now officially REKT because of this factoid! Except its not. Jews are over represented in their support of leftist causes such as gun control, open borders and mass migration (but not for israel), censoring speech under the guise of hate speech/antisemitism, overwhelmingly responsible for producing pornography, direct involvement in passing the 1965 immigration act, direct control over media messaging that shapes the thoughts of the country, wars for israel at our expense, foreign aid for israel… I can go on and on. All these problems are not excused by their admission that a kike lover of a president loves kikes. It's pathetic that you actually brought this up as a sort of counter.

macdonalds work had examples that actually work against him
Meanwhile, in reality, MacDelouser has directly responded to the very guy you're shilling. What a surprise that you conveniently ignored this.

"Much of Cofnas’s critique depends on the claim that I conceive of the Jewish community as monolithic. As a result, he repeatedly brings up examples of Jews who dissent from various intellectual and political views that are common among Jews or those participating in the Jewish movements I discuss (e.g., Jewish critics of Israel, Jewish critics of the left).

Cofnas in several places characterizes my view as stating that the fact that some non-Jews have participated in Jewish movements implies Jewish manipulation, Machiavellianism, or that they have been blindly indoctrinated (e.g., Margaret Mead as a “puppet” of Franz Boas). These are misrepresentations. My view is that non-Jews who participate in Jewish movements may have a variety of motivations, ranging from sincere belief (perhaps motivated by their own, independently derived hostility to the cultural norms being attacked by the movement) to naked self-interest.

Best part? COFNAS DIDNT EVEN READ SOME OF THE SHIT HE CLAIMS HE DISPUTED: "Cofnas claims that if he is successful in refuting CofC, he would have in effect refuted the first two books as well. This is incorrect. In fact, the three books are quite separate theoretically and discuss entirely different data sets (…) Cofnas claims that I haven’t provided evidence that Jews involved in particular intellectual movements have often gone out of their way to recruit non-Jews as visible leaders of the movement. However, this phenomenon goes far beyond the intellectual and political movements discussed in CofC. In Chapter 6 of Separation and Its Discontents (pp. 193–196) I discuss several historical examples, beginning with the New Christians during the period of the Inquisition in fifteenth-century Spain."

unz.com/article/reply-to-nathan-cofnas/
YOUR LOVED ONES WILL ROAST IN THE OVENS AT 1488 DEGREES SOON, KIKE!

Isaiah Taylor
Isaiah Taylor

muh random uncited journo article which like 95% of them are never verified or actively fail verification says jacking off is good checkmate ebil nazis

Has anybody told ya your a poofter today?

Angel Hill
Angel Hill

More and more half and quarter Jews are identifying as Jews due to the opportunities that comes with that identity. They're basically marrying 'up' in social status and creating a hybrid of elites that identity themselves as Jews. It's not a bad strategy.

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Dylan Morgan
Dylan Morgan

Top comment right here, fucking laughed at them fixing that """mysterious problem""", how could everyone hate G-d's chosen people :^)

Caleb Mitchell
Caleb Mitchell

This shit posting thread is on half chan as well.

Liam Garcia
Liam Garcia

The jew isn't intermarrying to survive in a dominant culture either, as they define culture. Judaism is the culture, and the marriage is a conversion, because their children will be counted jewish.
Nathan keeps six terabytes of other men's dicks sliding into slag pussies on file. For some reason, he can't talk to girls anymore. Being a cuck is good for you, (((science says))).

Nathan Gray
Nathan Gray

Then why do ultra orthodox jews in Israel not want jews to mix. Its obvious that the less religious the jew, the less tribal they behave
Because even in the Old Testament bible, it is self-contradicting. The jew-god commands the jews not to intermarry with other groups, but stipulated that the reason why is because other groups worship other gods - so the true threat of racemixing wasn't the racemixing itself but the threat to jew-god worship.

Then to complicate things, jew-god makes it clear that if you worship jew-god, you are a jew. Aside: Fun Fact, this technically makes christians honorary jews. This is also how ancient iews got other men to marry into their tribe. Since jewish ancestry is considered matriarchal to ultra orthodox jews, this is how it would be done. Stupid racemixers marrying into jew groups were glorified sperm donors.

To summarize:

Ultra orthodox jews futilely know that racemixing is not kosher but only because
despite jew-god counting those who worship him as jews
is only truly against (jews) racemixing because it potentially invites non-jews (those who do not worship jew god

The ultra-orthodox jews follow this, but follow it knowing it is contradictory. This rule is a hallmark of jewish cognitive dissonance. You're trying to apply logic to a group of parasites that do not follow logic, are hypocrites, and will invent loopholes when they desire one.

Furthermore, the JQ - the jewish problem - is not solely bound to jews operating as a tribe. Jews not being tribal would not suddenly and inexplicably end the jewish problem. To reason that if jews as a tribe ceases also dispels the jew problem is a shrouded black or white fallacy. This is because jews thrive off of the use the traitors, as the majority of jews are apefrican-tier IQ retarded. It is convenient to realize and act on the fact that jews are essentially the cause of every evil in this world, and that is why they are given so much focus. It is ironcially reassuring that jews being approximately the sole group causing so much evil means their removal would cease so much evil.

The threat of the jewish problem is such that it will take the removal of traitors and jews. Even the low IQ retarded jews must go because their existence is one that is dedicated solely to trickery, lies, and hypocrisy. Civilization requires an unspoken code of honesty so that only the small percentage of white outliers in white ethnostates are the problem. Having semites that blend in and work to subvert and to pay for corruption is a parasitic existence that must end. So long as there is a culture of dishonesty and subversion, the race behind it must be eradicated. Because culture is the result of genetics, the genetics that belongs to that race must be removed.

James James
James James

OY VEY SO WHAT IF HE READ THE PAPER WORD FOR WORD LIVE, HE CLEARLY DIDNT UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T AGREE WITH MY CONCLUSIONS!!!!!
What did he not understand? What statement was incorrect?
Cofnas proved MacD's own examples worked against him
You keep saying this despite the fact that MacD has defended himself against this allegation AND that you yourself do not provide which examples work against him.
JF ad hom
i only want to talk about this at an intellectual level
Typical tricks rabbi. You wanted intellectualism so here you go, the response to the critique of the critique of the critique of the critique by MacD himself. One key quote, ironically, has him responding with similar words that you use yourself:
"Cofnas writes: MacDonald’s assertion that ethnocentrism is not relevant for his theory of
Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy contradicts many of his previous
statements."
Again, as repeatedly emphasized in my previous reply, ethnocentrism is
indeed central to my theory of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy
(discussed in A People That Shall Dwell Alone). However, general statements
about Jewish ethnocentrism are not important for CofC where I am only
concerned with particular Jewish groups and their leaders. In other words, it’s
important for me to show that Freud, Horkheimer, et al. were ethnocentric. It's not important whether or not all Jews are ethnocentric or whether intermarriage
is destroying the ethnic basis of Judaism in the diaspora (…) As has been the case throughout these exchanges, Cofnas fails to grasp the argument and thus he continues to flail away,
typically without really getting at anything important. And when he does deal
with a central issue, such as the ethnic identities of the Frankfurt School figures,
he ignores what I have written and misinterprets other passages. His replies are
thus not only incompetent but intellectually dishonest.
researchgate.net/publication/327252296_ONE_MORE_TIME_A_REPLY_TO_COFNAS'S_CRITIQUE_OF_MY_REPLY_TO_HIS_CRITIQUE_OF_DUTTON

Luis Cox
Luis Cox

Some OC for the newfags

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Anthony Anderson
Anthony Anderson

I hate kikes as much as the rest of you, but this is unfortunately a just so story that boils down to "lel kike researchers therefore invalid data" without actually invalidatingthe data.
according to out of africa
which is debunked trash no one here should even dream of referencing
they bred for 1-2000 years with 92 iq eastern euros
There is no way for you to factually claim they bred exclusively with the lower half of the bell curve. Shit like this is not convincing or based in fact and gives people an out to discredit highly valid work such as CofC. Use your best weapons, not your duller blades.

Asher Williams
Asher Williams

muh word definitions goyim

So you are just pretending that halogroup scatterplots and gene frequency charts don't show the clustering of samples in bodies that precisely conform to what we anecdotally identify as "races" and "nations".

You have nothing, your ilk has been trying this for 10 years and you still have nothing.

We are going to kill you all and there is no empty wordsmithing that can help you evade your death. No amount of "slick" kike speech will stop the bullet from crashing into your skull.

Ryan Martinez
Ryan Martinez

I'm not the originator, I'm just reposting it because it offers rhetorical points in refutation of a comment the kike made purely as a rhetorical point.

However the orginator was correct that there are far more whites with IQs over the supposed mean of 115 than there are kikes in existence so one would assume that the kikes wouldn't have their choice positions without nepotism.

Joshua Williams
Joshua Williams

However the orginator was correct that there are far more whites with IQs over the supposed mean of 115 than there are kikes in existence so one would assume that the kikes wouldn't have their choice positions without nepotism.

The most important point for sure.

The 115 IQ myth has no basis in reality due to sample size and lack of diversity in the population. While white IQ is taken from a range of populations, the infamous 115 number was exclusive to a tiny group in an elite school.

voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-myth-of-jewish-intelligence.html

This study is limited to applicants for Day Schools adhering to the principles of the National Commission for Yeshiva Education. This sampling does not claim to represent the entire Jewish school population or even those children attending yeshiva Day Schools with a different educational emphasis.

Firstly, it just measures Ashkenazi IQ. It's safe to assume that those on the higher end of the IQ scale would be taking part in more elite education while the vast pool of jews are excluded. IQs are higher in more prestigious institutions as a rule.

So it's only measuring the cream of the crop while other races get their IQ score from a representative range.

Matthew Garcia
Matthew Garcia

Come back when you've learned how to make a decent thread. I am willing to consider your argument if you present it properly.

Adrian Cook
Adrian Cook

No, it hasn't. Elite Jews like Soros are the main problem. Though, the ordinary Jews he speaks of are often unwitting conduits for the machinations of their own elite. They all still wants to impress the Rabbi.

Samuel Myers
Samuel Myers

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Dylan Watson
Dylan Watson

Death to all Jews

Liam Gutierrez
Liam Gutierrez

running to the safety of a crowd wont save you from reality kids
remember your theories and walls of text have no merit outside of this site
they are really only ever to be spoken of vaguely for fear of attracting actual criticism
it's not fear of consequences, but because you know how weak your arguments really are
your beliefs survive through obscurity, and prey on uninformed targets

it was always this way from the start, but you let your uncritical peers convince you otherwise
you will never be taken seriously, because you do not want to be taken seriously, it would not be good for you

Ethan Smith
Ethan Smith

I guess our jewish friend went to sleep

Adrian Jenkins
Adrian Jenkins

It's pretty easy, and mostly has already been stated. Not all Jews are zionists/globalists, there is more to Judaism than genes, it's a religion, ethnicity, and tradition. Also, you clearly said NON orthodox Jews, whom aren't usually Zionist.

Tyler Phillips
Tyler Phillips

Fuck off cofnas you dumb kike. We told you to fuck off a year ago, think we've forgotten?

Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones

jews dindu nothing to nobody
You and your filthy kinsmen are going to be wiped out, chaim. No amount of verbal trickery or deceit can save you this time.

Thomas Green
Thomas Green

There are always people who take the meme too far.
The problem has always been the ELITE Jewish people that hoard money, and have excessive influence over the media, political system and etc.
Poor and ordinary Jewish people have never been the enemy.
Race is a 19th century ideology, people should know better now because we have a more advanced scientific understanding of genetics.

Elijah Hughes
Elijah Hughes

There are no good jews.

Everything can broken down into Tribal Warfare, nothing really makes sense without understanding how tribes fight one another and who survives. If the Aryan cannot find the resolve to wipe out a tribe who has shown to be an enemy to Aryans for 1000s of years then we will die and the jews will live. The jews must ask themselves the same question, which the jews have already answered 1000s of years ago and why jews are acting as they do right now.

Looking at all other groups Worldwide Whites are losing. You could make a similar thread about niggers, asians, spics, or pajeets and still by the majority of these groups actions its members are triumphing over Whites by using Whites, to some extent just like the jews. Though the jews are much more nuanced to their approach than like the Mexican who just goes on Welfare.

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Christopher Murphy
Christopher Murphy

see thread
go in thread
Jewish Question still not debunked
Imagine my shock

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Connor Baker
Connor Baker

the time for arguing about this is long over. Read miles mathis. You're 15 years too late.

Easton Long
Easton Long

<Poor and ordinary Jewish people have never been the enemy.
The jewish race is the enemy.
<Race is a 19th century ideology, people should know better now because we have a more advanced scientific understanding of genetics.
Race is a scientific fact, shlomo.

John Cox
John Cox

Fuck off, kike. When things go live and our guys get a hold of nukes Israel will be target number one, followed by all jewish enclaves on American soil.

Aiden Young
Aiden Young

Non orthodox Jews in america intermarry at a rate of 71 percent. Too high to be tribal as a group.
That's how they expand, newfaggot. Regardless of who they mix with, they call their children jewish. The matrilinear thing does not matter in practice. Even conversion of the spouse isn't necessary. Jewishness is a mix of genes/culture/religion that basically comes down to a loose tribe of parasitic nepotism.

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Asher Perez
Asher Perez

Allow me to explain something I haven't seen mentioned on Zig Forums before, at least not called out for what it is. The jews, like most shitskins, have a caste system. Not like the poo-in-loos, where it's mostly based on skin color and old money. Not like the asians with their antman hierarchy. Jews are segregated based on old family/old money, useful middlemen, skilled workers, religious sect, and useful idiots. The old "kings" have the majority of the money and power, but don't usualy act directly. They loan out their money to an up and coming mover and shaker who can be the public figure to represent jewish elite. But any money or power he accumulates is not his own, it belongs to his overlord. Soros is someone else's dog. Skilled workers are allowed to go into business with loans from jewish lenders, which allows jews to use the services of other jews, keeping all their money "in the family". The religious sect, orthodox jews, are the ones who help keep the jew magic rituals going. And the useful idiots are used for false flags, actors, victims, and cannon fodder. They believe in blood sacrifice bringing them power, this includes the blood of their own kind because they are the "Chosen".

Grayson James
Grayson James

chess is the ultimate determiner of intelligence. holy shit go play with some blocks you fucking retard.

Camden Cooper
Camden Cooper

op is a faggot but at least he stuck around for awhile and tried to argue his views which is more more then i can say about most.

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Jordan Lewis
Jordan Lewis

infographics, which are compilations of data with sources provided, aren't intellectual
Of course, the only "intellectual" action would be to agree with (((your))) assertions.
If we had an actual Zig Forums moderation team and not hostile foreigners masquerading, this obvious bait spam thread would not be here.

Caleb Perez
Caleb Perez

Jews intermarry at a rate of 71 percent.
Too high to be tribal as a group.
Obviosuly when whites intermix at such high rates you say that its white genocide, so Jews doing it should elicit the same response, it is a behavior that will destroy their group.

Except they stop considering you as a jew if you are too dumb and start calling you white. Also they mainly mix with wealthy whites or asians. It's a way of picking the best and discarding the worst. An elitism achieved through eugenics.

Noah Ross
Noah Ross

debating jews
<debating jews
jej even martin luther concluded this was fruitless on like the 3rd page. thanks to the real anons who tirelessly provide information and arguments for lurkers to digest, and thanks to jews for always being jewish.

Cooper Brooks
Cooper Brooks

The 115 IQ myth has no basis in reality due to sample size and lack of diversity in the population. While white IQ is taken from a range of populations, the infamous 115 number was exclusive to a tiny group in an elite school.
This should be added to the copypasta then since its an actual refutation of data.

Oliver Thomas
Oliver Thomas

I really found gariepy funny, "I found a bee doing something different than the other bees" and "i found a bee bringing stuff back to the hive that's poisonous…"

I think he savaged cofnas.

Joshua Baker
Joshua Baker

Actually they have and have done a few shows on it. Enoch and many others has challenged Kofnas to a debate and Kofnas refused. JF just did one last week. Basically Kofnas attacks a straw man thesis that “all Jews are liberals”. It wasn’t even KM’s thesis in COC. So Kofnas was btfo’d the moment he released his article. Not to mention Kofnas made alot of, “it’s not the jews fault for being in parasitic professions and destructive intellectual movements because they have high IQ’s and tend to live in major urban centers”. Which Macdonald states as two of many contributors to Jewish behavior. Kofnas’ article was an own goal and amounted to bitching about MacDonald only focusing on Jews. When Macdonald’s subject and focus was on the Jewish people. It’s just silly kvetching. Which is why Kofnas won’t debate MacDonald, Enoch and many others. He’s gone into hiding because he was exposed as a hack.

Landon Ortiz
Landon Ortiz

Lol, "I'll debate you since Kofnas is too much of a pussy to debate anyone."

Nice try faggot

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Austin Rogers
Austin Rogers

i will not respond to
intellectual level
ONE DROP RULE KIKE
<wahh please take me seriously
no shit OPs get shit replies

Adrian Russell
Adrian Russell

Quads of truth.
No arguments needed.

Xavier Peterson
Xavier Peterson

reddit
You don't understand the JQ. If anyone here is honest and wishes to learn something, learn this. The external diversity of the jew stands not in contradiction to its internal cohesion but as causa sine qua non of said cohesion. By definition an enemy that uses subterfuge and infiltration will need to physically infiltrate, up to a certain point, the enemy (us). Intermarriage in jewish circles is more about power and trust as it should be with any group that recognizes itself as a hostile parasite. Think about it in this way. A jew does not marry into a christian family. It is a christian that marries into a jewish family. The statement is contradictory and still is true and illustrates the reality of marriage in the jewish community.

Ian Cox
Ian Cox

Intermarrying at 70% debunks tribalism. This is so stupid it doesnt even need to be addressed. I will say that their birthrates are high enough to maintain their population despite defections. Part of JQ is the orthos constsntly are shitting genetic trash into white gene pool who become marxists or trannies or degenerates. These in turn donate to orthos and defend them. Much like how bolsheviks gave orthos special treatment during revolution. These shed half breeds serve as a cultural shield from backlash much like viruses disarm immune system by confusing intetcellular signaling. See story of Joseph and how he enslaves entire nation of egyptians for the sake of his pure bred family.

Chase Carter
Chase Carter

Perhaps the most elegant, simple refutation of Cofnas is as follows:
If jews are not a threat and outbreeding as much as he claims, why is "The Culture of Critique" now banned on Amazon?

Blake Hill
Blake Hill

This.
OP Is a jew. Do not debate with jews. Do not argue with jews. Do not negotiate with jews. They do not represent us, and they will never speak for us.

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

And they will NEVER "argue" in good faith.
Drain them of their essence into the gutter instead.

Oliver Robinson
Oliver Robinson

oy vey goyim just believe me
fuck off kike, pic related is you

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Evan Rodriguez
Evan Rodriguez

Good post user, but please do learn to English

Christopher Parker
Christopher Parker

2 days ago
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Damn, I missed a shitstorm. It was probably Cofnas himself lol.
I'll just reiterate what I'm guessing 99 percent of anons said. Look at media, look at academia, look at finance, look at dual-citizens affecting foreign relations. It's all jews fucking the country raw. It's jews sending whites to die in wars to take land for Israel, and then accept the displaced people as refugees. Nobody says every single jew is in on it, that's just a retarded take by maroons who don't want to argue the real issues.

Nathaniel Gutierrez
Nathaniel Gutierrez

Kevin MacDonald's 'work' is about trying to construct an identity for Kikes. Kikes aren't a Nation, a race, an ethnic group, or anything like that. Religious nutjobs from every race like to pretend to be Kikes. It is Kike identity itself that causes Kikes to act the way they do (as parasites). There is no Kike-DNA, there is not even much loyalty between Kikes.
It's called the Zionist Occupation Government for a reason, not the Jew Occupation Government. Jews couldn't rule that thing called "America" without hordes of willing Christfags to do their bidding. The war for the liberation of the White Nation is a war against religious nonsense the hollow-nothing of "American" identity. The Jewish Question happens where ever people who can pass for another group, but actually don't identify with it, are allowed to operate freely. This is why the Manchu came to dominate the Han for so long, and why the Tutsi dominates the Hutu.
Kevin MacDonald's shit work obscure all of this, and nothing that worthless piece of shit Nathan Cofnas says sheds any light on that reality. He is another person preaching Jews have higher IQs than whites, so they deserve to rule over us, just like 'we' supposedly rule over the niggers. That's the point of pushing the IQ shit by the 'Right' wing of the ZOG.

Austin Peterson
Austin Peterson

Judaism makes no sense if you think about it as a religion. Rather, it should be considered as a nation, but a decentralized one, using contronymic names and brands to obfuscate function. Intermarriage has nothing to do with anything other than preventing national diffusion into host nations and prevention of assimilation. Secondly if you "debuked jq", perhaps you should define jq, because the jq is far from debunked as jews are manifesting their theocracy to a more visible extent than ever before, taking conspicuous and dangerous steps at a greater pace than in the past. They are preparing to build a third temple, have the WH, and have land given to them via potus tweets, have jewish laws enacted in the US (fl), have marxist orgs doing social engineering on global scale tides found. immigration etc. Not sure where you would pull a debunk out of this, more like confirmation. Perhaps you are insane?

William Cox
William Cox

Non orthodox Jews in america intermarry at a rate of 71 percent. Too high to be tribal as a group. Obviosuly when whites intermix at such high rates you say that its white genocide, so Jews doing it should elicit the same response, it is a behavior that will destroy their group.
This implies you believe kikes are not defined in anthropology as an "ethno-religious" group. Think about this, and how this definition alone destroys your theory.

Now think about how kike shills always spam the chans with anti-Christian D&C shit. Specifically they will most often claim Christianity is the boon to the human races crossbreeding. This implies those shilling believe that Christianity is also an "ethno-religious" group. It is not.

Jews are the ones that systematically destroy races by polluting the other races with jew genes. This is their double edged sword: destroy the race while also spreading the religion.

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James Davis
James Davis

The issue isn't as simple as a matter of an intermarriage statistic. First of all, this episode of intermarriage is a recent phenomena. Jews are, in fact, subject to their own propaganda. That is because there is no Jewish conspiracy, but Jewish nature, and their influence on the West comes from their nature, not an overt conspiracy that somehow includes all Jews. Despite this episode in particular being a recent phenomena, it's not the first time Jews intermarry in history. Ashkenazim came to be from intermarriage of Jewish males and European females thousands of years ago. They were certainly tribal then, and the children they produced came to be considered as ethnically Jewish as any other. The same is true for children of Jews who intermarry today, they are are in-group as far as Jews are concerned, and often act as such, the Jewish identity superseding other especially if they're part White.

Of course, I'm not going to pretend it has necessarily to work this way. A Jewish halfling can feel attached to their Whiteness and detached from their Jewishness, and in fact even someone who is Jew from both sides can in theory feel that way, despite many here certainly disagreeing, although the latter is probably mostly a mental exercise at this point in history. These are trends, not rules, but the whole question is about trends rather than hard rules.

This is also in great part a matter of survivorship bias. There have been communities of Jews in the past that intermarried in great numbers. You don't hear about it because they stopped being Jews and are not here to be considered. The Jews we see today are there precisely because they're the ones that resisted intermarriage up until now. Jewish identity is necessarily tribal because otherwise it couldn't exist in their host nations for too long. It's not surprising, then, that a group of Jews start intermarrying today, because that has happened before. That will either mean that the Jewish identity will eventually die in their descendants, or they'll incorporate it and eventually return to low levels of intermarriage.

Austin Nguyen
Austin Nguyen

Kikes are a race complete with DNA, you fucking East ZOG faggot.

inb4 kikes are white and you are a liar if you deny it

Samuel Gray
Samuel Gray

chess champs are disproportionately jewish, ergo Jewish IQ on avg is higher
Behold the semite brain, eager to deceive and declare supremacy over the goyim chattle
No, what that illustrates is jews are schemers. Craven gollums who, rather than engage with other young men in physical tests of strength and will, the jew sits in a dark room plotting subversive actions that will benefit him and his tribe.
Just look at what their brightest say about their fellows

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Matthew Gomez
Matthew Gomez

/thread

Carson Evans
Carson Evans

Jews are just merchants lol
blame the people buying the crap they sell

Grayson Gomez
Grayson Gomez

I understand you white guys are used to letting jews teach you basic stuff
Doesn't this indicate you aren't interested in intellectual discussion, but rather making passive-aggressive statements and shitposting at our expense?

Asher Thomas
Asher Thomas

yes, this is why every single "jewish" chess champion has a healthy dose of white dna

Angel Butler
Angel Butler

someone who knows nothing
lol

Cameron Lee
Cameron Lee

Yeah, I think it’s that by the time Gen-x rolled around, where middle class jews would have lived would be the suburbs in major urban areas. So they wouldn’t have really stuck out or felt like an outsider as much as the past. It’s not like the Catholics they were dwelling amongst were hyper religious(by the 80’s lapsed boomer Catholics were a thing and wouldn’t have raised their kids in a religious environment other than slapping it out there once a month for Mass or maybe sending the kids to CCD)and wouldn’t have seen at least a distinctive difference between a Jew broad or some kind of Italian or Greek broad. So the X’er/millennial jews got comfy and more friendly with the goyim.

Brayden Roberts
Brayden Roberts

To add: KMac started the the book in the early 90’s before the Gen-X/millennial kike was fully materialized. They were still teenagers or young children.

John Sullivan
John Sullivan

lets debate
no infographics
Fuck off and die word-nigger

John Wood
John Wood

Jews intermarry as survival-strategy. Female jews marrying gentile men means (by halakah) jewish kids. Even male jews marrying gentile females create jew-friendly kids, which boosts the base of jewish power, which relies upon the ‘minority influence’ effect as well as nepotism among the mixed multitude of the crypsis-hoard. And money, of course. Lots and lots of it. Thus the pervasive influence of jewishness grows and grows.
Jews extend their power and seek to change the world to think like they do. The problem is, jews have evolved as an aberration among humanity, being a chronically-damaged and deeply psychologically and spiritually disturbed group whose ‘normal’ is cancerous to the needs of everyone else…. The problem is in perceiving the reality of their ‘interior’ group-world, they blind themselves to their ‘exterior’ impact and reality.

Andrew Roberts
Andrew Roberts

Non orthodox Jews in america intermarry at a rate of 71 percent.
thats called infiltration you twat. same reason they change their names. they are parasites hyper-specialized to leech off the White men. they have no worker caste of their own
not tribal as a group
they vote as a bloc. 70% dem. you are going to get an infographic because we deal in facts here kike
race mixing destroys kikes
you dont understand the longevity of that blood, its like nigger blood takes many many generations to wash out. quote related
Jews in america are more likely to say Trump is too favorable on Israel than Christians are.
bald face lie. jews hate trump even though he is the most philo-semitic president ever

sage because you're a lying kike faggot

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Ian Cruz
Ian Cruz

jew debunks JQ

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Liam Ortiz
Liam Ortiz

im basing this off of macdonalds version of the jq where jews have a group evolutionary strategy to subvert their host nations
history verifies this. you dont get kicked out of entire nations as a race 359 times for no reason you ignorant yid

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Owen Young
Owen Young

bobby fisher was jewish, and honest about their nature as well, unlike you rabbi

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