This thread will be for the discussion of the different tactics and strategies to be used when America erupts in it's second civil war.
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The cities will be especially vulnerable to seige warfare. Since all that would be require to starve a city like New York would be to destroy the roads and highways leading into them. There wouldn't even need to be any active force outside the city since any food that could get in via an all-terrain route would not be enough to sustain the population. Although for New York specifically the ports would need to be disabled to prevent cargo ships.
I like the image but, i think the civil war will be a race war not a Dems vs Reps 2 :Electric Boogaloo.
I've got some problems with some of what he's saying in that video.
1) The establishment is anti-Christian: except that Christianity has always been a means by which the elite control the masses through an ideology inherently egalitarian, multicultural and the precursor to marxism. They're not anti-Christian, they just don't adhere to any ideology or dogma.
2) The very term "deep state" has now been appropriated by people wanting to become members of it and latched on to their enemies: i.e. anyone who questions the destabilization of Iran.
3) France's National Front is anti-establishment: they are basically like Trump but in France, and like Salvini. Allegedly racist, but actually just globalists exploiting conservatism like Reagan and Thatcher in the 80s. Anti-establishment parties and figures do not even exist, they would be terrorist leaders if nothing else.
4) 11:07 - "A Trump or a Sanders who really would change things" - I get that this came out in late 2015, but holy shit he was sooooo wrong about this
5) "We need to be creating an alliance of states against non-state forces." I get that he was alluding to ISIS, but he's really talking about us without knowing.
Well this is spooky. What is Google up to? I was suggested this video as well today… not that I've found much that John Mark has said that I strongly disagree with. I'm curious about what propertarianism fully entails. His other videos on it makes it seem like it's Libertarianism 8.8 and fixes the flaws.
It will be a race war and city vs rural people. Trump is a failure. You want a strategy for Electric Boogaloo? It starts today:
1) Hit the gym. Movement wins battles, and in asymmetrical warfare you're going to be moving from point A to Point B A LOT. If you had to choose between training strength or training sprinting / running / hiking distance choose the latter. If you're in hand to hand combat you're doing it way wrong. You'll still want to build up some strength, but looking like Arnold or being a strongman is not the combat ideal.
2) Have enough food and water stored. This can be done relatively cheaply. Beans, Rice, Cooking Oil, and Vitamins to supplement nutrients you will be missing. Ideally a years worth. If you can get drums or rain drums this will help you.
3) GUNS. Get a fucking AR and .556 ammo. Whatever ammo you think is enough you need more of it. It's the most common rifle in the U.S. and most common round. If you get a second gun, get a bolt action in a large caliber. This is for hitting and taking down soft infrastructure targets. A luxury item wound be night optics for your ar. Night time ops go to the people with the better tech.
4) Make friends. I think this will naturally happen once it kicks off; but you'll want them before hand. If you're like me and in a city, you're fucked on this end.
My city votes 80% Democrat. Kill me fam.
5) Learn some chemistry and some basic electronic circuits. If practice what this is for before CW2 kicks off, you're going to be in jail. Unless you've gotten a degree in Chemistry you're going to have to learn this on the fly sadly.
Oh, and get a copy of this map… www . eia . gov/state/maps.php
They are anti-christian but pro (((judeo-christian))). Just because Salvini hasn't started a race war in italy doesn't mean he is /ourguy/.
Most niggers and spics smoke ‘muh weed yo’ and are extremely immobile, not physically fit enough to hike anywhere except a few blocks to the liquor store. Shitskins will be cordoned off in the cities and burned. Become the RWDS in your city. Anons can kill hundreds of homeless/incapacitated niggers within hours or less.
One of the signs of an impending civil war too look out for is an increase or normalization of political violence. This is what the elites seek to avoid at all costs and is one of the most peculiar things about Americans. Americans will blow each other away over the results of a sportball game but few ever lay so much as a hand on the clammy skinned, suit wearing little men who rule them.
tell us your secrets goyim
Sage and report. There won't be a war.
They are anti-christian but pro (((judeo-christian)))
Christianity is inherently globalist, egalitarian, and openly preaches that you should give up all your money to the poor. No one has practiced it sincerely for thousands of years, nor should anyone.
Just because Salvini hasn't started a race war in italy doesn't mean he is /ourguy/.
You mean it doesn't mean he isn't /ourguy/? Maybe you should do your homework, look up who he's connected to.
Netanyahu is about to provide Salvini with a pro-Israel license
according to Fiamma Nirenstein, a prominent Italian-Israeli writer and a member of the think tank Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, the initiatives critical of Salvini are “simply absurd.
“I consider these initiatives marginal; Salvini and the League were always outspokenly pro-Israel,” she said.
Is that mark john's video? It was pretty weak, he just went over the pasta we've seen here a dozen times.
Thomas Chittum's Civil War 2 has much better info, definitely worth a read. He goes into detail about how similar wars have popped off in other countries and talk about things like how racial armies will form.
Niggers are the ones with the guns in the city… You're still going to need to sprint between cover. Niggers might not be able to aim, but you don't want to be unlucky either.
I forgot something on my list: ACQUIRE ANTIBIOTICS. Gunshots will have a 70% kill rate without them.
tell us your plans goyim!
Talk about nothing!!
Don't help eachother goyim!!
openly preaches that you should give up all your money
How does it feel to be a liar? That passage you are referencing is in the context of a woman(shocker) demanding others be more charitable to which Jesus tells her to sell everything she has before criticizing others for giving what they can or will. You "could" always be more charitable until you beggar yourself, even if that charity was given to the immediate familiar and tribal unit.
All those European nations were highly exclusionary while Christianity was the predominant. The rural Americans today despise and murder shitskins today are almost entirely Christian. So when people give examples of this you turn about and say "not really Christian". You dumb fuckers don't seem to understand that all behavior is 93% heritable, the system is conceptualized and enacted by the individuals through the lens of their natural predispositions. Thus Christianity as practiced by the only population in any industrial nation which is breeding at above replacement rates(rural "conservative" whites in America) is a cruel, insular, and taciturn religion. That is why a liberal faggot in 1880 London will cry about "white man's burden" and demand that niggers be civilized and then in 1980 that descendant of that libshit who is also a libshit will cry about imperialism and how the poor niggers are mistreated. That is why the cavaliers and germanic mercenaries(the guys who were even mentioned in the video as being driven out of Europe to America) killed fuckers in 1610 with pointy sticks and kill them now with AR15s. It's in the blood you fucking retard, the expression of the behavioral predisposition only changes in form in different environments but not in function or in basic motivation.
You faggots know about the primacy of heredity but when it comes to white culture and the shit situation we find ourselves in your racial pride in our demonstrably superior race becomes racial fetishism. You attribute no weaknesses of flaws to the historic Europeans and become environmental determinists. Well fuck you, the problem is and always has been that we've had this poison in our population which we now refer to as "liberals". If they didn't exist then we would have killed all the kikes long ago and we would have exterminated all the shitskins just like the white in America did, who were the only Europeans to ever engage in wholesale genocide even as the Crown and then the US government obstructed that effort on behalf of dirty Injuns. The solution to the same shit we've seen since the Greeks, the whiny litigious governments and the pussy social signaling faggots is to extirpate them by whatever means we can. If everyone is a cruel heartless motherfucker then this cannot happen again.
You repeat the same empty platitudes in every fucking thread the second any cultural issue comes up.
All your points are true, but this isn't what matters. I'm not a burger and don't know who he is, but this is the best analysis I've seen of the current situation: how can it come from a boomer-aged guy? This fucker is basically redpilled at Zig Forums level (Frankfort school? Israel?).
He is just softening it up a bit for his audience, and also pretending to be on their side.
destroy the roads and highways
How do you even destroy an highway, or a bridge, without military firepower?
Jesus tells her to sell everything she has
You "could" always be more charitable until you beggar yourself
<openly preaches that you should give up all your money
So then I'm right, you just refuse to see this in any other framework than nationalism, which is itself incompatible with Galatians 3:28.
It's your religion faggot, own up to it.
<Trump is an outsider
Not even remotely.
Funny how the delusional leftists mutlicultural utopia only breaks down into sectarian violence like it has always in the past. Why do those imbeciles not learn from history?
implying most of Zig Forums didn't also believe Trump was Hitler reincarnate in 2015
And… still missing the point.
It's only because of racists like you that it doesn't work.
implying most of Zig Forums didn't also believe Trump was Hitler reincarnate in 2015
That's exactly what I'm implying. Glad you caught on to the implication.
You are so redpilled, oldfag. Glad you are here to screencap your own posts and talk about the past.
your own posts
Not my posts, (notice there's no you beside them). Here is one of my posts.
it's genetic. spartans used to leave undesirables out to the elements. let nature take its course.
what do you suggest we should do to make sure the kosher right does not take power?
Probably something illegal and inadvisable to advocate online.
They're in the cities too.
Isn't D Lemonsucker stepping down from his position/retiring?
there would have to be some kind of night of the long knives to get get rid of the controlled op out of the right
You know you faggots talk about how materialism is a problem and then bitch about the passage berating a materialist who thought that merely paying homage to rules without understanding their reason and who is stated to put his faith in money is a problem.
3 And Jesus looked round about, and said unto his disciples, How hardly do they that have riches, enter into the kingdom of God!
24 And his disciples were afraid at his words. But Jesus answered again, and said unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches, to enter into the kingdom of God!
25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
26 And they were much more astonied, saying with themselves, Who then can be saved?
27 But Jesus looked upon them, and said, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
The issue isn't that he should beggar himself it is that he values the money more than anything else, that is why he is so dejected when he is told to discard it.
This isn't the only time this is brought up.
Also Mark 9 bitches out the Pharisees for being money grubbing faggots on the previous page. But just contextualize it down to four paragraphs.
Also you didn't address my actual point, that blood determines all things, that inherent predispositions are the primary influence on all cutlural phenomenon including the expression of religious sentiment.
Just kill every kike, shitskin, and libtard and the problems solve themselves no matter what the system that is emplaced because then you won't have shit people shitting up whatever exists. It may not be optimal but it will at least endure for a time, while any system which is an imposition upon a population, including national socialism or christianity or anything will inevitably fail once the power of coercion falters. That is why we are in the shit to begin with you idiot. The paleoenvironment didn't allow for such rampant hedonism and diversion and now that it is available all the hedonists both white, kike, and shitskin are being poisoned by their own bread and circuses.
Also to actually contribute to the thread in a meaningful way here is my recipe for nerve gas pastebin.com
So i dont know if this is the right thread for this but, im looking for pretty much anything that someone needs done, if you have a problem with 'something' im sure i can find a 'solution'. if you have anything like that send me an email at [email protected], any persons not using pgp encryption will be ignored and disregarded
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Control a couple of Coloradan and Mississippian waterways a couple
Of mountain passes ahem parleys and s port or two and you own it ALL
his faith in money is a problem
And Jesus, the jewish rabbi, told his fellow jew to give up all his money. It's like Marxism but before Marxism.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
This is the shit I'm talking about. On top of advocating against family values, and Paul's preaching against the difference between Jews and Greeks. The whole New Testament is garbage. How can you not read that and conclude Jesus was a hippie kike who ought to have been crucified next to two-bit thieves.
blood determines all things
Just kill every kike, shitskin, and libtard and the problems solve themselves
What the fuck do you think Jesus was? White?
das a big boolet. more than half an inch. Even bigger then .50 BMG
WTF I love Jesus now.
Wow. I'm blinded by how brightly you are glowing
If civil war happens the jews win. They will control both sides in full force and control any actions that happen. While they make us kill eachother they'll be rolling out their grand plan behind the scenes.
It'll almost be like the US government never even split just using pitting it's people against eachother while they clean up after.
Yep. That was the whole point of all of this build up since 2012. Its pretty close now, the "conservakikes" are all ready to go, they need one or two large injustices perceived by the libbots to get them to shoot some ppl, then state will respond, and in the process introduce new emergency law to disable public consensus of constitutional rights. The jews will fund both, they are really bad people.
Also, its the exact technique used in post ww1 weimar and russia. Its freightening how unaware of history the masses are. Theyre going to destroy eachother. there's no way to stop it at this point, the fuse is lit. You would need powerful cohesion of a competent legit military force with JQ to prevent this flower from blossoming.
How about a competent guerilla force working within both official armies?
We can slowly convert their movements against them when people realize how shitty the war is. Like how when the Allies got to the Eastern front and realized they weren't fighting demons but regular dudes. This will take belief elevated to the spiritual. We'll have to be unstoppable forces of nature within and without.
It's only because of racists like you that it doesn't work.
Can't believe I'm hearing this on fucking Zig Forums. What the hell happened to this place? Of course, please just ignore reality and history and try the same failed insanity over and over and over again for millennia or scientific reality.
Prejudice as a Response to Perceived Group Threat: Population Composition and Anti-Immigrant and Racial Prejudice in Europe (1995)
Author: Lincoln Quillian
“I extend and test a theory of prejudice abased on perceived threats to dominant racial or national groups by subordinate groups. Perceived threat is hypothesized to be a function of economic conditions and of the size of the subordinate group relative to the dominant group. I test the group-threat theory using a multilevel model that combines population data with survey results on attitudes towards immigrants and racial minorities from Eurobarometer Survey 30. “Group threat” explains most of the variation in average prejudice scores across the 12 countries in the sample and has a small but statistically significant effect on the influence of certain individual-level variables on prejudice. These results demonstrate the importance of perceived intergroup threat in the formation of prejudicial attitudes and suggest a re-interpretation of past findings on the relations between individual characteristics and expressions of prejudice.”
Is Collective Violence Correlated with Social Pluralism? (1997)
Author: Rudolph J. Rummel
Increasing social pluralism (diversity) is correlated with increased chance of collective violence.
What Makes Teams Work: Group Effectiveness Research from the Shop Floor to the Executive Suite (1997)
Authors: Susan G. Cohen, Diane E. Bailey
Ethnically diverse workplaces have lower cohesion, lower satisfaction and higher turnover.
Does Social Capital Have an Economic Payoff? A Cross-Country Investigation (1997)
Authors: Stephen Knack, Philip Keefer
“Memberships in formal groups—Putnam's measure of social capital—is not associated with trust or with improved economic performance. We find trust and civic norms are stronger in nations with higher and more equal incomes, with institutions that restrain predatory actions of chief executives, and with better-educated and ethnically homogeneous populations.”
Participation in Heterogeneous Communities (2000)
Authors: Alberto Alesina, Eliana La Ferrara
“Using survey data on group membership and data on U. S. localities, we find that, after controlling for many individual characteristics, participation in social activities is significantly lower in more unequal and in more racially or ethnically fragmented localities.”
Cowards and Heroes: Group Loyalty in the American Civil War (2001)
Authors: Dora L. Costa, Matthew E. Kahn
Homogeneous military units have less desertion than diverse units.
UNDERSTANDING THE AMERICAN DECLINE IN SOCIAL CAPITAL, 1952-1998 (2003)
Authors: Dora L. Costa, Matthew E. Kahn
“Rising community heterogeneity (particularly income inequality) explains the fall in social capital produced outside the home.”
The persistence of white ethnicity in New England politics (2004)
Author: James G. Gimpela, Wendy K. Tam Cho
As an explanation of recent voting behavior, ethnic origin trumps class differences. “…the political salience of white ethnicity persists, suggesting that ethnic groups do not simply dealign or politically “assimilate” over time.
Predicting Cross-National Levels of Social Trust: Global Pattern or Nordic Exceptionalism? (2005)
Authors: Jan Delhey, Kenneth Newton
Ethnic homogeneity and Protestant traditions positively impact individual and societal levels of social trust.
The New Separate But Equal (2005)
Author: James Chen
In the most liberal region in the US, San Francisco and surrounding suburbs, White parents are pulling their kids out of public schools that are becoming increasingly asian.
Trust, Inequality and Ethnic Heterogeneity (2006)
Authors: ANDREW LEIGH
“Using a large Australian social survey, combined with precise data on neighbourhood characteristics, I explore the factors that affect trust at a local level (‘localised trust’) and at a national level (‘generalised trust’). Trust is positively associated with the respondent's education, and negatively associated with the amount of time spent commuting. At a neighbourhood level, trust is higher in affluent areas, and lower in ethnically and linguistically heterogeneous communities, with the effect being stronger for linguistic heterogeneity than ethnic heterogeneity. Linguistic heterogeneity reduces localised trust for both natives and immigrants, and reduces generalised trust only for immigrants. Instrumental variables specifications show similar results. In contrast to the USA, there is no apparent relationship between trust and inequality across neighbourhoods in Australia.”
When Does Diversity Erode Trust? Neighborhood Diversity, Interpersonal Trust and the Mediating Effect of Social Interactions (2008)
Authors: Dietlind Stolle, Stuart Soroka, Richard Johnston
“Our analysis, one of the first controlled cross-national comparisons of small-unit contextual variation, confirms recent findings on the negative effect of neighborhood diversity on white majorities across the two countries.”
The Effect of Ethnic Diversity and Community Disadvantage on Social Cohesion: A Multi-Level Analysis of Social Capital and Interethnic Relations in UK Communities (2009)
Author: James Laurence
“Our results show that while increasing diversity does have a negative impact on social capital, it simultaneously improves perceptions of, and relations between, ethnic groups. Furthermore, we find that forming ‘bridging’ ties in diverse environments plays a significant role in the positive relationship between diversity and tolerance, and that the presence of ‘bridging’ ties can also reduce the negative impact of diversity on social capital. However, while our results show that diversity has both positive and negative effects on social cohesion, we find that it is disadvantage which has the most detrimental impact, undermining both social capital and interethnic relations.”
ETHNIC DIVERSITY AND TRUST (2010)
Author: OGUZHAN C. DINCER
“I find a negative relationship between ethnic polarization and trust and a U-shaped relationship between ethnic fractionalization and trust. According to my estimations, (a) going from an ethnic polarization index (PI) of 0 to an ethnic PI of 1 decreases trust by almost 12% points;”
School Choice, Universal Vouchers and Native Flight from Local Schools (2010)
Authors: Beatrice Schindler Rangvid
Using data from Copenhagen school registers, researchers found that native Danes opt out of public schools when the immigrant population concentration hits 35% or more.
Ethnic, Religious and Economic Diversity in Dutch Neighbourhoods: Explaining Quality of Contact with Neighbours, Trust in the Neighbourhood and Inter-Ethnic Trust (2011)
Authors: Bram Lancee, Jaap Dronkers
“Besides ethnic diversity, we identify economic and religious diversity, as well as language proficiency in the neighbourhood. This study explores data from the Netherlands showing how these four dimensions of diversity in the neighbourhood affect the quality of contact with neighbours, trust in the neighbourhood and inter-ethnic trust for immigrant and native residents. We find that ethnic diversity in the neighbourhood still lowers the quality of contact with neighbours. For natives, ethnic diversity is positively associated with inter-ethnic trust, whereas for immigrants there is no effect. Furthermore, for natives, religious diversity negatively affects the quality of contact with neighbours and inter-ethnic trust, whereas for immigrants this effect is positive. Economic diversity positively impacts on trust in the neighbourhood and inter-ethnic trust. We do not find an effect of language proficiency.”
Good Fences: The Importance of Setting Boundaries for Peaceful Coexistence (2011)
Authors: Alex Rutherford, Dion Harmon, Justin Werfel, Shlomiya Bar-Yam, Alexander Gard-Murray, Andreas Gros, Yaneer Bar-Yam
Borders, not multiculturalism, reduce intergroup violence.
Patterns of Racial-Ethnic Exclusion by Internet Daters (2011)
Authors: Belinda Robnett, Cynthia Feliciano
Exclusionary dating is a natural consequence of racial diversity.
Disentangling the ‘New Liberal Dilemma’: On the relation between general welfare redistribution preferences and welfare chauvinism (2012)
Authors: Tim Reeskens, Wim van Oorschot
“In the present ‘Age of Migration’, public policy as well as social scientists are puzzled by the ‘New Liberal Dilemma’ (Newton, 2007) of finding popular support for welfare programs that have been installed in times of cultural homogeneity… we show that particularly those who favor that welfare benefits should in the first place target the neediest, place the highest restrictions on welfare provisions for immigrants. In addition, the relationship between preferences for welfare redistribution and opinions about immigrants’ access to social welfare is moderated by a national context of cultural heterogeneity.”
Ethnic Conflicts: Their Biological Roots in Ethnic Nepotism (2012)
Author: Tatu Vanhanen
“[E]thnic heterogeneity [diversity] explains 55% of the variation in the scale of ethnic conflicts, and the results of regression analysis disclose that the same relationship more or less applies to all 187 countries. … [E]thnic nepotism is the common cross-cultural background factor which supports the persistence of ethnic conflicts in the world as long as there are ethnically divided societies.”
can't believe I'm hearing this on fucking Zig Forums. What the hell happened to this place?
Lots of shills here for awhile now. Place has gotten popular, mostly through the media and certain happenings, and the occasional legitimate SJW/antifa type wonders in to take on “le ebul nahstees”. That and authentic JIDF/ADL shilling has ratcheted up as well
Polite sage for off topic
Ok, but i will be fighting on the liberal side sorry guys.
A liberal with guns……
But this bad? There would normally at least be a bunch of anons calling this cuck out but not even that. What the hell?
Sure libchild, don't shoot your eye out with your invisible gun.
Spam thread still up.
But this bad? There would normally at least be a bunch of anons calling this cuck out but not even that. What the hell?
My guess it that we are on an isolated server and these are probably bots.
Silverado hit and run squad.
American Civil War 2.0
It's going to happen no matter what. Inescapable history. America will Balkanize like no other in history and we have the traitors who created the 1965 immigration act and rights for subhumans to thank.
That is the entire purpose of making it an OPEN BORDERS nation user. No borders, no nation.
Location really matters on this one. Besides CAli, the Southwest is no place for a white to be. The eastern coast is ours and all of canada is ours incase we need to escape into the wilderness for guerilla warfarre, almost like how the Russians use the Ural mountains as a retreat location. We can use the appalachians to the same effect by taking land all the way up to the Mississippi and extending down to the south. In effect, the midwest and everything east of it is white and all of cananda.
We could have the entire south as well if we just bump off the stupid nignogs.
Unfortunately, the area below the colonies is mostly black. WE'll need to funnel them below the mountains through ALabama and out west. We can create proxy warriors of them and pit them against our inevtiable enemies in the west where the mutants are.
See Also the area near the dakotas can easily be snatched from the natives who barely use it. With Canada ours we can use it to send troops through it to the West coast.
These threads are the best ones
The Dakota's have high quality Northern European people (high IQ; high trust) as well. They will be an asset.
It's always a war.
But it isn't a civil war, it's a war on (((them)))
They want civil war, just like they want pornography, pedophilia, and any sick shit that has already been normalized.
You imagine it's going to be niggers vs. whites vs. city folk?
It's the war room.
Yes I believe they possess the highest average IQ right? It's close proximity to Canada will ultimately give us access to ALL of Canada's major cities for siege.
Vote Berny! He will help!
Image related for sieges.
When we send the blacks through Al westward we can tear them right through Texas, pit them against the Mexicans, and take Texas back after the chaos. It will prove pivitol for stopping illegals. ALL browns go West.
This image makes it clear why the midwest is such a key location. The Ohio and Mississippi rivers meet at the bottom tip of Illinois to form a nice defensive barrier. I believe these cities in the US were created with defensive measures against the indians in mind. These same barriers are still useful. Notice how many major cities would be under our grasp.
Since this will start a guerilla war and may stay that way, the boreal forests above the great lakes especially around Quebec and Ontario are key. From there we can strike South into the Eastern US.
Using the forest as a cover we can move troops all along the Western stretch of the continent if we need to get North into Canada or South into the West where I believe the liberal pussies wil stay if not for new york. We cannot let them have the EAst or we are doomed, as that's where the most whites are. Believe it or not, whites are more likely to survive in Europe, but both continents need to be ours. Some eurofag who knows the land better than le burger here should create the equivalent plan in Europe.
Between the Europe and American armies will be a central command in the colonies. Europe is now far too close to enemies to be the primary headquarters. We'll have a second there instead
This is all minecraft stuff too.
Blackshirts against the Redcaps!
Nothing has changed.
…you realize you're supposed to post your _public_ key so people can encrypt messages to you, not your _private_ key, right? I'm disappointed. Will send you an email anyways to remind you of such.
Anons check out the maps and plan I listed this is a good thread to compile.
Our movement, though one of empowerment, is made up of a group (whites) who are currently disenfranchised. With this in mind, we can ally with other underdogs of the times. Perhaps it would be possible to set the Natives about claiming their land back from the other minorities?
OKC ring any bells? "Military firepower" not required. Hell, at the rate infrastructure is crumbling, may not even need any of that anyway.
Your plan is largely garbage. First off, the northeast, while white, is filled with leftists and nonwhites in the cities. It is also very close to Toronto, Ottowa, and Montreal; cities the kikes can use to stage troops and build a power base from. The Northeast is isolated from potential suppliers, namely PRC and RUS. Europe is zog central and mostly NATO member states, and as such can't be counted on to provide heavy weapons or war material aid. It is also subject to noreasters and hurricanes in the midatlantic states. As far as the appalachian states are concerned, they can and will become economically and physically isolated once the great american boogaloo starts. While this is good to a certain extent, it gives coastal elites immense economic power, as these states are cut off from the see. Eastern Canada is a whole other can of worms that is beyond the scope of this discussion.
Out west things are different. For one, the areas of MT, ID, eastern WA, eastern and southern OR, northern CA and WY are sparsely populated. The natives that live there only number a few hundred thousand to 2 million or so. Its entirely possible that if racially conscious whites fled the multicultural areas such as the black belt and southwest, it could easily be majority white if an effort was made. Second, the whites already in these states (with the exception of liberal expats from California and the coastal areas) are largely traditionalist and half way towards our ideology. Unlike the urbanized whites of the east and coast, these whites are used to living sparsely and have ample amounts of resources at their disposal.
The the northern US rockies in states like ID and WA and dense forests of northern CA make excellent guerilla territory (almost as much as Appalachia), The western US is also home to the majority of the US nuclear arsenal and many weapons stockpiles.
The climate of the western US is not as unpredictable as the eastern half, as the weather is pretty constant, with four distinct seasons. Finally, there are several potential flashpoints brewing in these states as liberal expats move there and start trying to fuck everything up. Best example would be WA states new gun laws, with local conservative sheriffs electing to not enforce these laws. This could become a flashpoint if the leftist governor in Tacoma decides to make an example of one of these sheriffs.
Overall, the two best places to hold a white resistance would be Appalachia and the areas considered to be part of Cascadia. Newfoundland, Labrador, and Maine could be other potential spots. Using the mountains for shelter like the Taliban do, we can sweep the planes once we have enough equipment from potential allies abroad.
Give the canadian natives northern canada around Hudson bay. Maintain white control of the Ellesmere and other western arctic islands. Give the american natives most of the dakotas and large portions of southern Colorado and southern Nevada, and most of northern Alaska. It'll be a fucking mess, but if you want to get the natives on board, you'll have to offer them things.
Though you're right about most of the cities being filled with browns and libs, the rural area surrounding these areas are almost entirely white. Like the discrepency can be insane. I live somewhat near the East coast near a city and it's just as I describe. Perhaps we could just siege these cities and get rid of them while we can. Also, I should say most Jews are in NY. These poc and jews are not smart. They chose an easily disrupted concrete jungle as their home. Whitesa are moslty rural. This is proibably are main advantage no? We've been settled on the land for longer so we are more spaced out.
I imagine the biggest goal now is to settle whites in an area that is geographically protected. You mentioned Cascadia and I agree. From there we could sweep the plains east or Cali to the south if need be. From Appalachia we have access to almost he entire east of the US. As far as Canada goes where would be the best place to settle a white homeland?
A tactic I haven't seen as of yet is preparatory organization. You're going to want to get groups of able individuals together now so they can learn how to function as a unit, how to shoot, how to fight, how to use the equipment available to them, and more.
As well, something else that hasn't been considered is the need to manufacture ammunition and firearms as well as stockpiling it. Ammunition is still plentiful, but the fact of the matter is, manufacturing a glut of firearms under the 'personal use' statute is going to be cheaper in the long run than buying yourself guns, unless you want to be the one splurging all his money on nothing but Hi-Point pistols and carbines. I have a solution for this and will probably start a thread regarding it soon.
I disagree completely. Brinksmanship is the only way they're able to continue. A civil war is an automatic loss because the security forces are the only thing they need unified, or at least willing to take orders.
Commies/kikes pull this shit every time and you people never get it: They need enough order to control and enough chaos to distract. Their terrors RELY on just enough social stability that no one will do anything and enough fear/chaos to never have to limit themselves.
Both accelerationists and the incrementalists are right in a sense. If there's enough stability to leave room for argument, we win. If there's enough chaos and violence to actually fight, we win. This uncertain grey area is their home turf.
Does any one have that user's red team analysis as to why a civil war would never happen?
Couldn't find a picture but here's a vid.
Perhaps we could just siege these cities and get rid of them while we can.
Nice thought, but take lessons from Grozny, Sarajevo, and the recent city sieges of the Syrian Civil War, particularly Aleppo and Homs. And keep in mind these cities aren't as large nor as populated as some the east coast megacities like Boston, NYC, DC, Baltimore, etc. These cities are heavily built up and have massive CBDs with large, often sprawling, suburbs, with extensive above group and subterranean transportation systems, not to mention several large and active major international airports and seaports. City sieges take time to do, and they are often costly in terms of equipment, men, and money. Imagine having to siege Philly. How many military assets would you need? Now imagine a largely disorganized irregular force tasked with capturing one of these cities. Its not feasible.
inb4 land blockade and wait them out
While their economy will be absolutely destroyed, leading to general third world conditions in them, they will still receive aid from the zog countries and UN, both nonmilitary and otherwise. They also still plenty of financial capital, even in their weakened state. Enough to finance their own militaries if they so chose to.
whites are moslty rural. This is proibably are main advantage no?
The kulaks of 1917-1924 soviet russia disagree. The Bolsheviks, thanks to their control of the cities, were able to freely roam the countryside, often killing anything they came across. I would encourage you to read about this time period in the USSR and how the jewish urban communists behaved towards the rural people of Russia. Rural populations have an edge insofar as they are able to minimize the enemy's tactical advantage. In this case, the primary ones being heavy armor and air assets. Densely wooded, mountainous terrain is difficult for heavily armored vehicles like MBTs and heavy IFVs to operate in. Likewise, its easy to hide and employ MANPADS, ATGMs, anti-material and snipers, and light artillery in these conditions, making it ideal for infantry based warfare.
As far as Canada goes where would be the best place to settle a white homeland?
The eastern coastal regions of Canada aren't as populated as Ontario and Quebec, and they have a higher portion of whites as a percentage of population. Although my vote tactically would be the mountainous western coast of BC. From the Columbia/Cassiar mountains to the coast. Maybe include all the way up the northern Yukon/NWT coast. Close to RUS/PRC potential suppliers, isolated from the majority of Canada, both mountainous and forested, providing for ideal guerrilla conditions. But very underpopulated. But I think the original idea of hugging the forest could work as well. It depends on if you care about the natives.
Ghostgunner mills finishing 80% lowers would be my vote. Ammo is more difficult.
I have that and more. Keep in mind that these don't discuss the racial side of a potential civil war.
Gonna have to disagree with that. For one, GhostGunners still cost a shitload of money($2k USD per unit), not to mention you still have to get parts kits for your lower(including a stock), magazines, and an upper for it. About 25% of the gun is home manufactured, and in a time of war, you're not going to be able to source uppers, parts kits, magazines, and stocks in any serious numbers, let alone 80% receivers. As well, the GG2 will be cut off from any potential source of long-term maintenance or repair and, if broken down, pretty much kills your ability to churn a firearm out.
Will put a new thread up to explain a solution that can be profitable currently and sustainable long-term to explain soon.
Looking forward to it. You posting it here or on /k/?
Probably a crosspost, ngl. Suffice to say that what I'm thinking of is something that could appeal to both groups.
preaches you should give all your money to the poor
"OY VEY GOYIM! THEY WANT ME TO GIVE UP MY SHEKELS!"
nice try Goldman
Please stop. Trump cucked out. Cucked out bigly too. A civil war will never happen now. There will just be more heroin overdoses and suicides for white people.
send them all to jerusalem. they'll spark a chain reaction that'll implode their state.
we are actually more united than you think here in the city. You keep forgetting that were all Christians. quit dreaming with our massive man power we would blockade the right, you we can defend more ground than you can. it will be like the first civil war all over again. the only difference would be the massive genocide.
No, it's perfect. It means nobody believes in voting or the system anymore. Only one option left, history is fate.
Communism (and Christianity) are stupid in that they advocate you give up all your money, capitalism is stupid to suggest you should hoard it and exploit your ethnic group and if your powerful enough, lobby politicians like Obama or Trump, to continue immigrating cheap labor that effectively displaces them in their own country. So fuck Christianity, fuck communism, fuck capitalism, fuck it all. You happy for the clarification faggot?
You can't even form a coherent sentence. Cities are the most segregated places in the entire USA, the educated whites even in the cities voted Republican, and the advantages the North had in the last civil war have all but evaporated this turn around and works against them greatly like shooting fish in a barrel. The logistics just aren't there for urbanites, it's mathematically impossible. They're going to die and even more if the likely chance of foreign intervention in a proxy war/civil war situation. The world hates America and I can't blame them after the constant exportation of degeneracy and values of evil wrapped in gold foil. As the state marches for war against Iran, the world will remember if it weren't for us, Iran would still be a democracy npr.org
Beans, Rice, Cooking Oil,
jesus we should not try to kill ourselves
Meat and fat: get yourself a heerd of animals
Ok, so I usually don't care for the whole liberal 'muh tanks and jets can beat your AR 15s', but all of the Great Plains could easily be taken early on in a civil war by anyone who moves the fastest. Hundreds of miles of open land with no natural land to hide in. It would also be very fast paced. Like imagine the early early stages of World War One or the Mongol conquests, before the front lines are somewhat well defined. Especially if the Chinese or EU military get involved, what's going to beat them is fighting in forests and mountains, not the plains. The only strategic importance (besides farmland) is waiting until there's a really brutal winter and doing a Napoleon in Russia hit and run kind of attack on whoever is stuck there, which is harder without forests anyways.
2020, that's when it'll all begin. It was foreseen.
Professor Peter Turchin uses mathematical models to predict political events
He says his models predicted a rise of political turmoil starting three years ago
This is expected to reach a peak some time in the 2020s, according to his theory
This includes decline of living standards and declining health of the state
A professor of Ecology and Mathematics from the University of Connecticut, Peter Turchin has led the development of a cross-disciplinary subject called 'cliodynamics'.
'My model indicated that social instability and political violence would peak in the 2020s,' he says.'The presidential election which we have experienced, unfortunately, confirms this forecast. 'We seem to be well on track for the 2020s instability peak.'
Professor predicts societal collapse in 2020s
We are living in society’s twilight years – if a professor of ecology and mathematics from the University of Connecticut is correct. Studying history as a science with variables and trends, he predicts the 2020s will see massive instability.
For some, our political future is frightening. Others find it exciting. But Professor Peter Turchin from the University of Connecticut claims that it is time to prepare for political turmoil that could rock society to its core.
Turchin is known for developing a cross-disciplinary subject known as “cliodynamics,” which treats history like any other science, with predictions and models. He has been writing about the subject for some time, but three years ago he began working on predicting the future. One of his predictions was: “We should expect many years of political turmoil, peaking in the 2020s.”
Turchin says that “the negative trends seem to be accelerating,” and that in three years, the path to instability will seem unavoidable. He was quick to point out that Donald Trump’s presidential election neither accelerates nor decelerates the process, but was simply a predicted aspect of his theory.
Turchin’s concepts include “elite overproduction,” in which the rich grow richer and relate less and less to the poor. He said that elite overproduction would result in “ideological polarization and fragmentation of the political class.” He used the 2016 election as a prime example, and explained that the Republican party has shattered into different factions consisting of Traditional Republicans, Tea Party Republicans, and Trump Populists.
Professor Johan Galtung predicting the end of U. S.
In short, I stand by my prediction that by Year (October) 2020 the US empire is gone. In the UK, Labour will put an end to it.
Galtung has also accurately predicted the 1978 Iranian revolution; the Tiananmen Square uprising of 1989 in China; the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union; the economic crises of 1987, 2008 and 2011; and even the 9/11 attacks—among other events,
Back in 2000, Galtung first set out his prediction that the "US empire" would collapse within 25 years. After the election of President Bush, though, he revised that forecast five years forward because, he argued, Bush's policies of extreme militarism would be an accelerant.
Galtung claims the US will go through a phase as a fascist dictatorship on its path down, and that the Patriot Act is a symptom of this.
Get ready to salute those fasces hanging on the wall in congress as it gets raided by the people, boys.
what about drones?
How would drone operators work in a civil war scenario?
give us a common enemy and you will see how united we are. You are acting like we will sit around and starve to death. NO comrade They ALL MUST DIE. with millions of men and women. the right will eventually run out of man power. something like this x100.
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with millions of men and women
60% to 70% of which are obese, have never held a gun and as OP says, are welfare dependents.
Civil War was the result of Origin of Species publication. It was to subvert the sovereign United States into doubting their rights from their Creator. Bloodiest war in US history, self defeating, severely weakened the US and paved way for the Federal Reserve act in 1913. Communism and Nazism are both Darwinist based ideas.
Make like a patriot and reject imperialism.
sauce of this great video?
south america if only
We're reaching levels of boomerposting that shouldn't be possible.
Never underestimate good ol' boys, Ms. Paglia. "Dey terk our jerbs" is only half-joking. Land that had been in their family for generations gets sold off to Monsanto or whomever practically at gunpoint, and they're just as frustrated and pissed off as you or I. They're already versed in the issues – niggers gonna nig, shlomo is not to be trusted, drones are spying on you, etc.– all it would take is one uppity ass coon in a uniform shitting up the nice quiet life they've built for themselves and BAM.
tl;dr Missouri Mike knows his little corner of the woods like the back of his hand, and he went to school with Kansas Ken and Nebraska Ned. They still go hunting/fishing/mudding/rafting/shooting/drinking from time to time.
eternal enemy for every ethnonationalist
As stated before, even the soldiers who only enlisted for benefits will have a very difficult time turning those weapons on American citizens.
I wanted to kill hajis, this isn't what I signed up for.
One thing I haven't seen discussed here is corporate influence/interference.
It's foolish to dismiss the possibility that they'd just sit by and do nothing when there's shekels to be made. We already know where the media stands. Your thoughts?
Charity works in a strong cohesive ingroup that monitors induviduals.
The gibs economy sucls because people are lazy, greedy, fatherles little shits. Very unchristian
Also some of you I guess hate the colectivist globalist crusaders who fought the fucking muzzies. Who came from multiple "nations" even tho nationality wasn't even a thing back then. Also ethnically diverse germanics, anglos, croats and even hungarians took part.
Christianity calls for peace. Oh well but the jews and arabs belong on the sword edge. I'll take hell for a better Earth.
Good luck with Odin keeping the morals and social cohesion up fagboi.
Romans and greeks fucked eachother in the ass.
Pedirasty was rampant and accepted.
Big question for the logistics of Civil War 2:
With much of gas shipping done via ports and highways, how are rural localities going to obtain the gas they need to run their combines/tractors? Will we see people fashioning woodgas converters like they did in the world wars? Does that burn well enough to fuel heavy machinery & farm equipment?
Will Oregon or Idaho become the first to create an engine that runs entirely on potatoes?
Nice asspulls. Did you pull them all out of your ass or some from a sandnigger's ass?
It will begin as a Republican constitutionalist vs left wing Democrat war initially. Then it will devolve into a full blown tribal race war. Eventually we will have to turn on our fellow whites like nigger loving oathcuck kosher conservatives like Alex Jones. Sad part is they wont even see it coming.
we could just farm food without powered machine or power tools
farms would look different, but it's possible
imo its superior
but yes there will be disruptions in the food supply
Have you considered that sending them North would naturally weed them out through starvation? Sending them West or South is going to supply them with the more parasitic environment that they are used to thriving in.
Yes… The north west. There are a TON of good white people here. All under siege by faggot shit head liberal Whites and mexicants. All of rural Oregon and Washington is white with few exceptions. The liberals though are bad news. There are A LOT of them.
It will begin as a Republican constitutionalist vs left wing Democrat war initially.
My only problem with this line of thinking is: you can’t fight an enemy that isn’t willing to fight. It would essentially just be terrorism against an ideology, not like two armies engaged in guerilla war. 1) most leftist don’t have guns. I know there are some that do, but the majority that are DSA types are not into guns. Orgs like DSA or SAlt have called for “assault weapons” bans and the like. And these groups are totally comfy working within the system, the media is more or less in their pocket and pushing the Overton window in their direction, the universities pump out more street soldiers for their causes, and the demographic shift is getting more of their kind elected. Why would the need to pick up guns when they can do it all “legally”? And also unlike the right they are very patient, this has been decades in the making and they are winning.
So with this in mind it’s up to the “right wing” to get this Minecraft party started. And as soon as they do the state will label they traitors and terrorists. So I’m under the impression it’s gonna start off as the general, more or less all encompassing “right wing” vs. the state (likely under leftist control).
Also in this regard I see I lot of talk about choking off the cities but I personally see them as a major battleground. What often makes guerillas difficult to fight is their ability to hide in plain sight, carry out attacks and then disappear into the unidentifiable mass of people. It would be very difficult for fully organized forces to indiscriminately carpetbomb highly-populated areas. Of course there will be counter measures to this, such as military police checkpoints, stop-and-frisk on steroids, ect, but there is no way they can keep total tabs on a city NYC or LA with close to 10 million people a piece. They already have a hard enough time with drugs, and those are mostly dumb Dominicans. Imagine a logistical chain of intelligent white arms smugglers.
But I think the reason cities are important is because it is where most of the elites are. They will eventually flee so there needs to ave an effort to cut the head off the beast when the opportunity arises. After that security forces will regardless sink tons of resources into peacekeeping in the cities, so a big component of our offensive should be to keep them draining resources and time there while the real battles go on outside the cities. Rural forces should focus on infrastructure distruption, supply line raiding, resource capture, ect.
The whole idea is make it too expensive for the military to continue operating conventionally. Force their hand. Also keep the cities intact enough to use as concealment and as a battleground, but hungry enough to be in a constant state of turmoil (creating a 2nd front the military has to worry about, the general populace).
No White will want to be within one mile of a lying untrustworthy, mentally ill Stormtard during a war.
They might go south to join their pets in death though…that would be nice. We would have to make the environment uncomfortable enough to have them leave.
One only has to wreak the economy demanding all immigrants return home in favor of Americans.
Most will go along with this as money is their God.
what you race fags always leave out of your "muh civil war 2.0" discussions is the strong possibility of foreign intervention?
You think other countries are just gonna sit back and watch?
No one has ever left it out. You’re just retarded. We’re not discussing this because OP is a paid shill trying to draw out our tactics. Report the thread.
No, China is utterly dependant on the US economy. They will be involved it would be in their best interest to do to the USA what they are doing to Africa, kill the men and breed with the women. I tried to get you guys interested in ETHNOGLOBE but you are not willing to save yourselves or your people.
I think most people are interested in ethnoglobe but it’s not possible until we at least secure our nations
Well then it’s a good thing we aren’t stormfags here
We’re not discussing this because OP is a paid shill trying to draw out our tactics.
OY VEY GOYIM YOU RESPONDED TO ME DIRECTLY
YOU’RE DEFLECTING WAAAAAAAAAA
its also really easy to manufacture you're own deisel.
also, large numbers of white people are fat, degenerate, lazy…
in other words, worthless
Kill yourself Jamal.
That's not a bad idea. I'm not well versed in the subject but the downsides look like we'd have zero surplus because whatever we didn't eat (or trade or whatever) would have to go back into the gas tank. That said is and always should be an option. I'd go so far as to say that until the efficency problems with biofuel are resolved, good old-fashioned elbow grease would be the default.
The most important thing you can do is get physically fit. Whatever you're doing now that isnt getting fit, is some kind of escapism. Get strong and agile. Get off your ass.
muh super secret special tactics
Yeah, no. Pretty sure this particular simulation has been run into the ground. Plus it's fun to wargame.
Woodgas is a joke. Some of the 'fastest' vehicles running on this stuff will do like 30mph on a salt flat. (there is a race for this go watch the videos) Now that could be matched by a similar vehicle with maybe 5hp on a flat surface. So you would have to use a MASSIVE woodgas system to power a tractor with an 8 litre or more diesel engine hauling a huge string of farm equipment. Diesel and Gasoline are your god. Never forget that. It is not possible to live without them. If you want out of that system then get yourself some Zeropoint energy or LENR because nothing less will beat Gasoline and Diesel.
I do this for about 80% of my food needs. It is not hard at all and is fun and super healthy. Catch is that I really don't overproduce much. I probably could not double or tripple up my production TBH. This means that at max capactiy I could feed maybe 10 people who were not helping. In march-may we would all starve unless we really were careful with the animals. Simple as that. A modern farmer with his massive tractor and fertalizer and herbacides could feed hundreds or maybe even thousands of people. The world population would have to fall 90% for this to work and most areas would be depopulated because they are not airable enough to live like this.
This is net-energy neutral AT BEST. Don't believe lefty-lies. You have to come up with a colossal quantity of sugar from plants. Gather and refine somewhat that sugar. Then distill it to remove the water. Not one time but 3 times. Every time a bit is lost and it TAKES ENERGY to do this. You will have to do this distillation with a wood-fired still as what is the point of using propane/liquid stove fuel? So this means a chainsaw to cut trees. LOTS of trees. Then split it, dry it, stack it. Lots of work there… dont get hurt. I know this because I have done it. It takes a TON of work to make a single gallon of this stuff… and you can't run a chainsaw on biodiesel. You can't run most generators on biodiesel.
The main problem with using anything other than modern, gas-fueled machinery is massive decreases in efficiency. Every extra row tilled and harvested is one white child that doesn't starve to death. Yes, as a last resort, crops can be planted, raised and harvested without gasoline, but so much manpower would go into it that there would be little time to fend off the locust hordes streaming from the cities.
Ease of manufacture isn't necessarily the issue. A cursory glance shows that non-petroleum diesel is manufactured mainly from slaughter refuse, soybeans and corn. My guess is the only reason soybean and corn are used is because the US gov HEAVILY subsidizes those two crops, artificially driving the price down so people look into all sorts of inefficient ways to use the excess supply. In a wartime crunch, there simply will not be a local excess of ANY diesel component because it'll be hard enough to feed everyone.
A shortage of rural energy could very well lead to a shortage of rural food. A shortage of rural food leads to the cites (supplied by ports) laying siege to the countryside, not the other way around.
I'd like to be talked out of this conclusion, but I think people seriously underestimate how much a fuel shortage will do to sabotage insurgent forces
This the length of this analysis disguises the fact that it fails to address the most pressing concern. Yes, people will need things, water, food, shelter, but given a significant collapse of infrastructure or of order, the primary commodity is always information. Communication is the wellspring of authority. We poison their well. The great meme war is no joke. When they cannot control the narrative because they no longer understand it they are forced to shut it down. Anyone shutting it down becomes a legitimate target. We can be anywhere. We can be everywhere. Memes matter. Our shibboleths secure the future.
The reason I threw the woodgas suggestion out there is relative supply. If international trade collapses, and (((logging companies))) no longer have sheriffs preventing the nearby residents from making use of the local landscape, there might be a relative surplus of wood. It's no longer going into cities to make section-8 housing. It's no longer shipped to wherever the hell they manufacture shitty plasterboard furniture.
I'm very concerned about what a rural insurgent force is going to do without a local supply of gasoline.
Oddly enough, a lot of rural towns near where I live were coal-mining towns during the push to settle the west. That's fine and dandy for generating electricity, but powering vehicles is a different beast.
Plant agriculture is destructive and unnecessary
We need to restore mass grazing herds moving through pasture in natural cycles and feeding off the excess, as we have done for centuries
You will reverse desertification and actually provide humans with healthy food this way
Growing vast fields of wheat occurred only for one reason: to draw people into the cities and control them for a cheap source of dependent labour
So with this in mind it’s up to the “right wing” to get this Minecraft party started. And as soon as they do the state will label they traitors and terrorists. So I’m under the impression it’s gonna start off as the general, more or less all encompassing “right wing” vs. the state (likely under leftist control).
I agree with this actually.
The best we can hope for is that some kind of balkanization would occur as a result. But the state/government powers wont give up a big chunk of land willingly though, but they may have no choice depending on the situation. Interesting times ahead. Its all going to happen in our lifetime.
Providing you're about 40 and under of course.
Theyre censoring a lot. There Will be a complete media black-out.
As for censoring people; are they going to say were all radical extremist?
It's still happening. It will keep happening. It won't end Amy time soon. This is our generation. Nothing else Will forfill the souls neet. Survivalist
If u read this do 10 pushups. Tale your time.
Good job once you did it.
How do I subscribe to your mailing list?
As for menetic waRfare..iTS all aBouT iMplied association.
Lets say uhh RuneScape community. Shill our cause there, RS base gets pilled, associated. And whoop whoop
there Will be HEAVY psyops. Do not get blackmailed. Don't commit suicide. Don't fight too much withon. Post ironic menace, were brothers. Stick to it. LARPing Bout to hit home real quick.
All you,re systems are infected. Everything Will get real really really soon. This aint nl game but it might aswell be.
i don't think i'll ever be able to laugh at this mess.
You can't fix this country anymore,
everything has to burn,
cleansed with holy fire.
Jesus the audacity of this bitch. If the world were honest it would be acceptable to flay people like this.
That tubolard beside her has me shaking. What happens when you tell them you're racist?
you get to fuck their girlfriends
It's going to happen and it's going to happen soon
(((someone))) is paying to have it pushed, that's why you had it recommended.
i saw a black man, he just smiled and nodded at me and i nodded back. then later i saw him leave on his motorcycle with his wife. i felt no friction or harrasment.
im a christian or was. and some guy asked for some money and i was like nah.walked away. fuck the homeless its their fault and their decision. all they do is degrade the image of sciety, its rediculous, theres enough jobs.
fucking pathetic. He can't salvage an dignity, but maybe he can gain some justified revenge by removing her, the kid, and the father before ending his own life.
Gas price will rise A LOT. SMUGGLERS WILL MAKE BANK.
(((desertification))) must be from (((glow-bull warming)))
Yes, I agree.
This is a civil war that is going in America right now.
"Hostility towards non-native sections of the population can only be eliminated when the non native sections of the population cease to be alien and blend with the general mass of the population"
Exactly what muslims don't do and refuse to do. which will result in a civil war or race war or war on religion. good job jews. you wanted this.
Some homeless persons make a lot of money, a lot more than you imagine.
They definitely make more money than I do, except I work and I perform well without getting paid.
Not posting the full session of the summit in 360p
Since the user never bothered to post sauce with tasty webm.
Full webm of the 47 minute session
It includes both speakers (on Deep State & 4th Generation War) plus questions.
On November 4, 2015, The American Conservative partnered with The Charles Koch Institute and the Department of Political Science at The George Washington University to produce the Summit on Realism & Restraint: A New Way Forward for American Foreign Policy.
This panel featured Daniel McCarthy, editor of The American Conservative, as moderator;
Philip Giraldi, executive director of the Council for the National Interest; (Deep State 1st speaker)
and William S. Lind, author of the Maneuver Warfare Handbook. (4th Generation War 2nd speaker)
Cool story, nigger. Next time try to find your shift key so you can at least LARP possibly a quarter of white intelligence.
Not really, even those preppers are getting wise to and making\stocking biofuels. Ethanol, beer. That's liquid gold.
Ports will be mined to hell. It isn't even brought up because it's so obvious.
Instead of sperging out and claiming it is being pushed by Jews, why don't you read up on it?
The vid I posted was all I had thanks for posting the whole session.
how destroy without boom boom
user, those with the knowhow to do this and plans are not going to lay it out. We are watched and it is best to leave avenues of attack open for later rather than pre-emptively close no obvious routes of attack.
Let the feds worry about home made boom boom's. Just chase your tail all day there guys.
came here to post this
I live in Chicago. For the right wing to win here, wewould need to cut off all rail access to the city. By doing this we create an unsurpassable pile of rubble, full of steel and concrete that is stuck in the pits where the train lines go through. There are also only a few highways out of the city, so they would need to be blown up too. You may be thinking "Why not just go through the West Side on foot?" You can't, because of niggers. An alternative option is to cut off downtown via destroying access to all of the bridges that connect it. Any person that wanted to get to the outer city would need to swim through the river, guaranteeing they get sick with some sewer virus.
alright you niggers we gotta first protect our 2nd amendment. we have to organize mass protests targeting primarily zoomers as theyll give the highest turnout
make it kony2012 in terms of notoriety and not turnout
Any person that wanted to get to the outer city would need to swim through the river, guaranteeing they get sick with some sewer virus.
What is boat?
Thanks for sharing it. I thought it worth finding the full version.
Didn't some /k/ fag prove most of these are airsoft?
Different races are going to begin to exercise sovereignty of their living spaces. Just recently Louisville International Airport was renamed to Muhammad Ali International Airport. In general I think we've got 3 main Balkanization points and they won't necessarily attempt to break off with the same tenacity or at the same time. The final one is just the remnants of ZOG and the USA which we don't need to characterize because we live it daily. Whites will do it last but most successfully because once they chimp out.
Includes Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Western Montana
Characterized by IRA-style white resistance
White Nationalist/National Socialist in ideological nature
Support from Russia
Terrorism in ZOG central locations like DC/NYC will get them their independence
Includes Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California
Characterized by FARC/Latin Communist Agitation style secessionist stratagems
Communist/Socialist in ideological nature
Support from China
New Africa/Kangtopia/Nubian Egypt
Includes Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Kansas
Characterized by Rwandan Genocide/RUF/Corrupt UN Dependent Nation style governance
Nation Of Islam style community agitation will get them their land
The Midwest, Plains States, will fracture into smaller American Colony style sovereignties I think. The Dakotas and Eastern Montana will align with but probably not join the Northwest Nazis. There will be small pockets of whites in every one of these places, likely the ones keeping the lights on there. Whether they'll be enslaved or just too stupid to leave I can't say. Basically whites in the Northwest will get a real country after a decade or so of stabbing cops and the shitskins will get pretend countries that are vassals to what's left of America.
Don't live in Chicago but have family there. Niggers would raid and burn the suburbs starting with Schaumburg. Brave AirForce anons will have to commandeer some bombers and carpet bomb the shit out of all the ghettos and non-white areas of the cities. Nothing of value lost. Shitskins destroyed. Problem solved.
Surrounding white ancestral land to spics and niggers
Fuck that. Southwest anons should be sick of spics and go full genocide. I'm not living in a spic communist state. Shitskins get nothing. Kill them all.
Southwest anons should be sick of spics and go full genocide
"Southwest Anons" will all BE spics in 10 years. The rate of migration is insane.
Nice Fallout larp.
Point is to stop it. Politics will not. Bloodshed and ethnic cleansing will. White men tamed the countryside and tamed a nation, all of it. Every square mile belongs to whites. Fuck giving niggers and spics an inch of land so they can trash it like they do their own neighborhoods.
This user knows the truth, search "holistic grazing".
Big herds of cattle (goats specially) can fertilize and prepare the soil for planting stuff. No need for heavy machinery. The answer is animals.
Don't worry fam. Things like 20 cals are excellent anti armor weapons and capable of even taking out mbt's in some angles of attack and easily able to disable such. Against light armored ifv and apc's its a fucking monster. A .50 is widely known and good enough in most cases, but a warlord is going to want a few 20's on technicals for heavy fighting, and they are almost as light.
You doing anything to stop them? Because they've already been given the inch of land. What's the difference between marshaling your strength in the Northwest and eventually taking it back, and sperging out lone wolf to try to and inspire the kickoff of ethnic warfare? It's already ceded. They're already here.
There's a reason why every countries nukes are aimed at the cities. Easy pickins.
National engineers have known it for years. Too bad the budget goes to walls and wars for israel instead of walls and infrastructure here at home.
Outdated strategy. Decentrailized warfare is the game now and there is zero path to victory for them in this because all we have to do with the cities is play chess. They can't win against a Go strategy.
The fourth turning is coming soon where the cucks and civnat race traitors like bannon get the rope.
Yeah he knows. It's a kike you're responding to. Their #1 mission on Zig Forums is to prevent a moral groundstone from taking root via Christianity.
The moment kinetics start flying corporations die unless directly protected by the government. All sides but the system want them dead at this point and they are going to pay dearly even if they individually were not part of what most are going to attack them over. International corporations are a slightly different story, but that is up in the air as to what happens as fallout from the US collapsing.
Even an 'small' scale civil war is going to destroy the global monetary system and gut trade. Most mega corps are going to fail hard, and since many are tied directly to the hip in some way to the US .gov machine, once the system is distracted and pulling its forces in domestically it will allow other nations to both seize assets of corporations freely, and eject those which survive the collapse of their operating methods. While some might barely make it thru with other western .gov's whom jump in to directly hold them up (and don't collapse themselves) the vast majority of independent corporations and large companies are dead within a couple years of any outbreak.
Yea, people forget any US civil war is by nature an international war. We are the jews strong arm, the moment we go, every tom dick and harry which wants a piece of the pie is going to take some. The yids have forgotten this it seems in their quest to weaken the US. Does anyone really expect germany to be able to invade france and keep it pacified with even an small contingent of warlords take over and fight among themselves and not collapse internally shortly after? Or that once world trade grinds to a halt that the UK wont starve and its panty waste government disolve under the onslaught of third world refuse they surrounded themselves with? How about spain, italy, greece or hungry, I am sure they can jump right on that stabilizing the European front when shit goes tits up all at once. Russia is the best placed to survive, nevermind weather what is coming. If China can be held up by russia it might itself make it thru, but if they start to starve or their military gets tested and fails in the s china sea, they collapse, likely by the time the US starts to settle down in a decade or two.
Corporations are an non issue. Just an extension of the .gov forces and will be treated as such by everyone.
but I think people seriously underestimate how much a fuel shortage will do to sabotage insurgent forces
I don't, and am counting on this. Most insurgent forces are going to be some level of muh patriot faggot. Turning up the heat ensures it becomes an savage knife fight were ideals and bullshit die on the field with fools whom wont do what is necessary. I am not worried about the subhuman hordes, I am worried about nearly aware and intelligent whites whom wont want to 'go there' and be the bad guy deciding to turn against men like me whom know what must happen. So crushing their world view and operating capacity is as key as destroying the systems ability to support itself.
There are many ways of 'winning'. If you goal is to defend and support hordes of worthless selfish faggots, not my problem. Gas is key to this war yes. And its a key that will be melted down by necessity. If you have to step off, never take half measures, only complete and utter extermination of your enemies and subjugation of those not of you is acceptable. Anything less and you hold yourself back to and create unneeded openings to destroy yourself. The future survivors can look to themselves in salvaging what is left, after enemies are gone.
Get the fuck out.
no, i live here and am here forever. what are your goals if you don't like what I said.
Subjugation will lead to the next war, not the last war.
abloo abloo don't bully muh constitution
Men like you.
Future wars between whites is of no concern what so fucking ever. That is for those whom live their times. My goal, my only mission is to ensure the survival of my species, my 'race' as they call it. In ten thousand years our white children can continue to bicker among themselves to their hearts contentment over nonsense. But today, right now, their existence is in jeopardy. If we fail here by falling upon swords of no worth, they will not be there to do anything, instead the yids and their fucking subhuman hordes will be all that is left and our species will be gone forever.
'muh' anything other than that is pointless bickering. So all weapons will be brought to bear against all enemies, both these vile invaders, and cucks whom refuse to do what must be done. Plan accordingly. You will not only be fighting the system and .gov forces, but directly competing against men like me. Some of whom, will be far less forgiving and understanding thanks to Zig Forumss enforced wisdom's which have been learned. If you are not aware of what comes with what is discussed, you will fail. No matter what, we, our people, must not fail.
I don't understand patriotards. Don't they know the country is dead? This isn't the country the founders created. No way in a million years would they give shitskinned subhuman animals rights or let homos gets married or show their faces. No, they wanted fags hanged on the spot.
Scared of change. Same reason people have beef with National Socialism. It's so divergent from the inherently kneecapped political wrangling that they both feel stupid for not thinking of it, and decide it's implementation threatens their "livelihood" and "security".
I don't understand patriotards.
Yes you do, you just don't know it.
Don't they know the country is dead?
No, they don't. They have no idea how bad things really are, and their conditioning - which they've failed to break in entirety - is strong.
This isn't the country the founders created.
95% of Americans couldn't name 3 founding fathers without serious thought, and an even smaller percentage know anything about their actual ideals.
No way in a million years would they give shitskinned subhuman animals rights or let homos gets married or show their faces. No, they wanted fags hanged on the spot.
And the vast majority of Americans don't realize that, or don't care, because the country has changed so much at this point, how can you argue to them now that this isn't how it was supposed to be, especially after decades of propaganda saying otherwise?
Patriotards are just idiots who don't know anything in the vast majority of cases. They never found Zig Forums, never came understand the JQ, never even understood what they were up against. Pawns on a chess board that'll never get to queen, all the while their 'player' remains unseen.
You're not sending anyone anywhere but a shallow grave during a civil war. After the war that can be done.
Meat doesn't store as long dipshit. If you're getting meat it's going to be from rats, your dog, deer, squirrels, and liberals. You can't prep and store meat for a civil war nearly as easy or as cheaply. This is the basic bitch budget way to do this.There's absolutely room for "Extras." If you want to take care of livestock while fighting a civil war more power to you. Meat is great but you can live without it too.
I did miss one thing on the list: Salt. No one pointed it out and it's 100% something you'll want and need.
The average goy only has so much time and money and they're going to need to prioritize purchases. If I were to prioritize things to purchase it goes:
Basic Bitch Food list
I feel like Trump is almost a shoe-in at this point, so you have at least 5 more years to prep and get in shape. The only way a Civil war happens under trump is if Immigration goes of the rails. It's too bad he's a cuck too and has no idea how to save America.
Different image of John Brown Club
implying the government won't simply corral the niggers into walled cities and airdrop gibs every now and then to get them to stfu
basically the same thing they do already
Some people were born to be cannon fodder torfag user. These people are literally incapable of thinking independently, they can only follow orders. If they must follow orders then it may as well be from people who have their best interests at heart rather then from shlomo and friends.
I dont think he is a shoe-in. He has lost the faith of too many people like us to have the same level of autistic fanatic memeing and campaigning we did for him in 2016.
No friend, i suspect we may have less than 2 years before civ war 2
Just make jerky, tastes great and has been around longer than civilisation.
Listen to this user. With the people's faith shattered and demoralised, the only way for you Americans is the way of cycling history and the sociopolitical order, violence.
I'm a geotechnical engineer who has a lot of experience with water resources in a large US city. I know where all of the intakes, canals and treatment plants are. In an all out civil war, it would only be too easy to permanently or semi-permanently disable all of the intakes, as well as most other water infrastructure, thereby stopping clean water from entering the city, which would prompt immediate surrender. A few guys in a truck can accomplish this. This civil war wouldn't last long.
Not all things need be revealed to our enemies.
BEHOLD A palehorse. -Bill Cooper. Also, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.
What if we have an opposite setup happening in secret. The plan is that the corporations secretly RUN. IT. ALL. The goal is for all governemnts to go to absolute hell then they just start disolving them. They are all filled with trash and all the smart skilled people will head for corporations like Wallmart and Amazon. The goal will be to make a world where there are no governments, only waring corporations that are full soverigns all expanding into space with their massive chunks of captured humanity there to do the dirty work. Think Weyland Yutani from Alien fame. Honestly I think this could be a solid possibility. Snowcrash by Neil Stevenson is an example of this as well.
it's second civil war
you're not going to make it, bro.
You'd be better off than my aerospace. Clearances or not, I'm not going to let the military industrial complex and its cabal of mammon hungry criminals win against the real American people. I hope when the time calls we assemble a team to create the contraptions that will cause the most suffering to the traitors who have opened the new Gates of Toledo most of all.
In times of conflict and massive national upheaval such runs into non tribal and inhuman organizations doesn't happen. Human nature bunkers down and cements into new cultures with an insular view in order to survive. Don't get me wrong, I am sure some will try and jews would love this, but only they have such an inhuman response to problems.
So should kinetics start, their powerbase is gone. They are utterly protected by cultural and national systems. And what few merc's they can be bribed to protect local issues are not capable of standing against any motivated force or anything on a wider scale. The US gov didn't come in to stop the pinkertons, they came in because the people once they started killing those mercs and corporate heads would go on to target the political's whom supported them. Corps exist only because of government.
Yeah areas around Chicago might get fucked by niggers but there the every 20 miles you move away from the city multiplies the percentage of whites by like 10%. The rural/semi-rural areas of Illinois are white. Blacks would never make it out of the suburbs before getting whacked.
This post is pretty much true until you reach Rockford. Rockford is where all the poor niggers that can't afford Chicago go. What's even worse is that the white folk has become wiggers and adopted nigger culture
T. Lives in Rockford
All I can see is a commie girl with a super nice fucking body, damn.
all i can say is when the shit really starts happening don't run and hide
10s of millions will die so you might as well kill as many antis as possible despite risks
Is there seriously chance for a Civil War 2.0 ? You're sitting on shit tons of guns and yet nothing is happening for decades. Why would it be different this time ? What could trigger it ?
The failure of the American empire and political turmoil like never before
us Christianity as practiced by the only population in any industrial nation which is breeding at above replacement rates(rural "conservative" whites in America) is a cruel, insular, and taciturn religion.
You mean Calvinism, user. They are HARD bastards.
It will be a starvation war during societal collapse, not left vs right in the streets (like in your video games).
Whichever side has the most people that haven't starved to death will have the voting numbers to win when civilization resumes.
This is why I think the fema camps are not for patriots, they are to preserve socialist voting blocks until after the reset/rebuild is complete. Then they will be used to vote to steal everything you have rebuilt and be collaborators for the big government that is reestablished.
It's Makers vs Takers. During SHTF only the Makers will have the ability to stay alive. Without the food and safety from camps the useless Takers will quickly die off. After SHTF the survivors made up of Makers would vote for small government so the establishment will need camps full of Takers to stay in power.
For there to be freedom after SHTF you need to ensure the least amount of people survive the camps. The easiest way to accomplish this is to introduce diseases causing death by diarrhea into the camps.
A 1oz gold coin now costs less than 2000 dollars. It will be worth much more during SHTF as paper/digital currency may be unusable. Use a 1oz gold coin to bribe a guard at the camps to poison the water supply. 2000 dollars to kill 2000 takers is a bargain. Stack silver and gold in your SHTF preps.
Do you mean 20mm guns? a .20 cal would be smaller than rifle caliber
let’s all be niggers guys
white pride needs white people to throw racewar riots like niggers
be proud like niggers
Whichever side has the most people that haven't starved to death will have the voting numbers to win when civilization resumes.
muh small government democracy!
Are you some kind of responsible right retard? How much of a SPED do you have to be to think that there will be elections after a major civil war?
Don’t revolt! Die with dignity!
Sounds like an awful idea, kike.
On the topic of petrol and other fuels, I wonder how important animals will become for logistics.
While I feel Civil war 2.0 would be a short conflict(Sadly), assuming the war does last for anytime, I figure petrol would become scarce and carefully rationed as well as a massive loss in infrastructure, however food and war materials would still need to travel large distances.
I understand America produces as well as processes large amounts of fuels, and the rest of the world still exists. However I wonder how operational and effective all that would be in our fictional long-term total war scenario, after all, america is a large country.
I also wonder just how long it would take to develop or even just to discover the need for pack animals and the infrastructure they require. If there already was a sizable number of pack animals, I am sure they would be used, but without any current infrastructure, I wonder if even in the protracted war they would be ignored as too long an investment.
elections after a Civil War
obsession with gold
The eternal retard boomer.Go read PATRIOTS again you fucking moron.
People are on the cusp of living forever with reconstruction of brains and organs, and you want them to throw it all away in favor of a pathetic, pointless death?
billionaires will be able to live forever*
Yeah no thanks kike. I'd prefer they die with the rest of the kikes.
Dat thicc shorty
Yeah there is a chance hoenstly. The one thing holding everyone back right now is Trump. IF the Democrats think they are going to get him out of office a war could break out. Even though we here hate conservakikes for being too cucked, we do share the same enemy in the government. The thing I fear is that Trump will sweep in after and fomr his own government in the vacuum. I have this feeling Trump will be a three term president don't know why.
There were never elections again after the last civil war.
Only an average of 2030 active ISPs on 8/pol/ in the past 72 hours and halfchan is a troll- and shill-fest. Subtracting %50 for the amount of glowniggers on this board, I'd say we're fucked.
I live in Okla. Very doubtful we would be lumped in with New Africa, which would most assuredly be bound to the east side of the Mississippi. Most nonwhites live in the two metro areas (the norm across the USA), however, OK has increasingly become a corner of Aztlan/El Norte. I’m not sure how many spics would stay in the US if a civil conflict erupted. I’m sure the majority of 18-30 year old males would seek reconquista, but there is a heavy gun-owning conservative population all throughout this state. I think our biggest threats are invaders from St. Louis or Dallas if the power goes out.
Forming fireteams of capable men is still to our advantage, even in 4G warfare. Not that we’ll be fighting line and column, but for division of labor in special operations. Targeting infrastructure can be done by one man, but having four or five multiplies those efforts tremendously. Männerbunde—brotherhoods—will provide men with a reassures sense of duty and purpose to serve their brothers and further the interests of their group.
The Establishment won the last war, which was not technically a “civil war” since the South was seceding, not trying to take the Union’s capitol. That’s why things continued the same as they had before the war.
In our case, I doubt that the system as it exists now will be resuscitated with new politicians who promise not to do the same shit that got us into this mess. The US Constitution has too many loopholes that have been exploited in the ~200 years it has served us. What I am hoping for is enough support for a Propertarian system of government that has analyzed these loopholes and devised ways to remove (((parasitism and subversion))) from the political sphere. In such a scenario, a president may not even be needed.
You need pro-biotics like sauerkraut and other fermented foods to go with them if possible or you'll be nuking your gut biota only to have shit like e.coli or candida take over later and you'll suffer / die of other shit that takes longer. The whole "super bugs" thing comes from the medical community being half wits / following jewish protocol which results in a nuking of all bacteria, good and bad, in the gut, and then it's barren ready for any thing to take over.
At the start quickly
Take out the power grid main and Texas
Blowup any bridges especially main bridges
Poison the water supply in major cities
Set everything on fire in cities burn everywhere
Start traffic everywhere
Hit and run tactics on police and public services
Take control major news outlets
Spread propaganda quickly
this video does a better job explaining civil war 2
If war happens America will lose no matter what happens
I can tell. The new war will be America's Soviet Afghanistan.
America is already lost. This isn't what the founders built or wanted.
it would be hysterical if we erupted into a civil war and foreign states came in and tried to restore order. imagine the europeans fighting with the russians and chinese for a piece of america's corpse while the niggas are looting footlocker
That's not a silverado lol
This. It will be white people killing other white people while jews are pulling the strings.
I see you're using the word "whom" to try to sound smart.
You are not doing it correctly. Look up how to use the word the right way. Also, use more punctuation.
You can be an idiot, just don't try to sound like you aren't one.
how do I know Christianity is good? Kikes hate it. Case closed.
Blessed and Christpilled
how do i know islam is based
kikes nominally hate it
kikes push for islam elsewhere
insulate themselves from it at home
kikes meanwhile attack christianity everywhere and try to corrupt or replace it with whatever, even islam, as long as it's something else.
It's not a push button operation but with practice you can use a 3d printer to create high quality metal components through investment casting. Something to consider if you don't have a mill.
It looks more ideological.
Martin Armstrong has been forecasting this for over a decade.
Also we are in another Fourth Turning.
Stock image user, good eye. I trust the notion registered. Definitely would need a better name.
I'll just leave this here:
Althought I imagine it might be defeated by entering from 'tha woods' and returning there as there would be overhead cover.
Still infrared might defeat that tactic.
Also electric dirt bikes would be silent and fast. Put an ir headlamp and wear eye-clops infrared goggles and you can drive at night.
Thermite is easy to make: powdered aluminum + powdered iron oxide (rust). Mix it in the right proportions and ignite with a blowtorch (aka Breaking Bad). Will cut any metal statue of say, Martin Luther King Jr, right in half.
And because it's not classified as an explosive it's legal to possess in the US.
How would the military not shut it down?
Would the military fracture and stop taking orders or something?
So So Sorry. But the Civil War Was Canceled in 2016 by the President of the United States, Donald John Trump.
The Plan Was to Create Extreme Hostility between Lefties and Righties, Increasing Drug Use Crime and the Ultimate reshaping of American Culture into a government similar to Chinese Communism.
every time Communism and Jew Ruled and Rule (south Africa). There Was Massive Loss of Life.
No More Brother Wars. Whites Need to Learn History, Mandatory.
You See that Picture to the Left?
This happened to Germany in 1933
The Germans Woke up and began Burning Books Created to Spread Degeneracy and Race Mixing.
Child Porn, Gay butsex and Litiriture meant to Break White Culture.
There Will be no Civil War, White History, Culture and Future belong to White Children.
No More Brother Wars.
Unlike monoethnic 1930's germany, the current situation in the western world requires a war. The niggers and spics and kikes will not go quietly.
Tell me anons what will happen to those few who voted for Donald Trump who were minorities will they be sent back armed knowing how to make their country better or will we kill them. Asking because my mom decided to be a fucking race-traitor and married a Puerto Rican
To follow up on that my dad actually likes Donald Trump a lot my mom meanwhiles a actual communist
POLITICAL VIOLENCE IS A GAME THE RIGHT CAN’T WIN
If there’s one thing righties believe, it’s that they could beat lefties in a fight.
You see this attitude reflected over and over again, to the point that it’s probably something ingrained in the right-wing psyche. Pajama Boy vs. tactical deathbeast? Pffft. No contest. Look, righties have the guns, righties have police and they have the military. If one day the balloon ever goes up, righties will just organize behind a leadership of their veterans, coordinate with the active service, give all the lefties free helicopter rides, and live happily ever after. Right?
That’s pretty much what the Confederacy thought about the Yankees, and it didn’t exactly work out well for them.
From the perspective of a mainstream righty who’s a right-to-keep-and-bear-arms guy, this dismissive attitude is remarkably familiar. It’s the same attitude of somebody who buys a gun “just in case” but never goes to the range, which is a great way to discover when somebody kicks your door in at three a.m. that you don’t know the difference between the magazine release and the safety. Organization requires time, communication, networking, and above all practice, and vanishingly few right-wingers are interested in doing the necessary work.
Some of this is due to disillusionment. The determination of ostensibly right-wing politicians to resist giving their voters what they want has, unsurprisingly, motivated a growing number of righties, most notably neoreactionaries, to consider going post-politics. In this view, the Right cannot achieve its goals through participation in the political system; what the Right really needs is a Moldbug reset, or a restoration: a one-fell-swoop by which the government is fired and rebuilt. The idea is to build right-wing structures in anticipation of reality’s inevitable selecting-away of inefficient (left-wing) forms when they can no longer propagate themselves. Entropy will set in and, perhaps, a defining moment will emerge.
Of course, that’s not necessarily going to be the case. Political violence isn’t fun for the whole family: it’s long, and it’s ugly, and everybody suffers. And nobody ever thinks this when they have a Great Cause, but maybe, just maybe, your Great Cause won’t win. And then what? “It couldn’t be worse” is the sort of thing Turkish coup plotters say right before their attempt fails and leaves their bete noire in undisputed charge of writing the purge lists. When it comes to political violence, everybody imagines themselves piloting the helicopters; nobody imagines themselves clinging desperately to the skids.
There’s a famous cartoon by Sidney Harris that shows a couple of researchers at a blackboard, on which is a series of complicated mathematical equations. In the middle of the blackboard are the words “then a miracle occurs.” The cartoon’s caption, dialogue from one of the researchers to the other: “I think you should be more explicit here in step two.”
“And then a miracle occurs” is a long-standing fringe-right temptation. You see it in all sorts of places: in Ayn Rand’s hugely influential Atlas Shrugged, once a lone scientist moves to Galt’s Gulch and doesn’t have to worry about the leeches, he literally cures cancer. In the much less influential wish-fulfillment novels by literal Nazi Harold Covington, his Mary Sue goes from poverty-stricken and railing into the ether to the inspiring force behind a mass white nationalist movement because, for no reason, white people suddenly start listening to his screeds and mailing him five-figure checks. Bluntly put: “and then a miracle occurs” is the equivalent of “I don’t have to change or put forth any effort; someday I will be great and people will like me for who I am.” As Righties know, this is something lazy and inadequate people say.
The organizational capacity required to build a new world is the same organizational capacity have Lefties built to pressure government. So who’s in a better position to shape the big moment when it comes? Hell, if tomorrow civilization goes completely Mad Max: who’s got existing local networks of people who they’re used to turning out and doing stuff with on a regular basis? Answer to both questions: not the Right.
Passivists say activism accomplishes nothing. What it actually accomplishes is practice. Practice for networking, practice for turnout, practice for speed, practice working as a team. Anybody who’s ever tried to get five people together for dinner knows it’s a pain, but look at the airport protests after the travel ban, and see how many people the hard Left can turn out on next to no notice. Say the balloon were to suddenly go up: forget having a detailed and specific plan; in that first five minutes, do you — not some veterans’ network you’re hoping will salvage things, not some imaginary Great Man; *specifically you* — even know who you’re going to call?
The Lefties do. And that’s why righties who say the Right has nothing to learn from the Left are wrong. That’s because righties don’t read lefty books. I read lefty books and organizational manuals, and I can tell you: they’re smart.
Accordingly, righties face two major challenges: building things, and understanding the strengths, weaknesses, and tactics of their Lefty opposition. Righties won’t do the same things as the Left, or do them in the same ways, but that doesn’t mean the Lefties don’t have lessons we can learn.
The first thing righties have to understand about Lefties is that lefties have a lot more practice building their own institutions, and assuming control of existing institutions, than their counterparts on the right do, and they share their practical experience with each other. Righties who like to build churches will build a church and worship in it. Lefties who like to build churches will build a church, write a book telling people how to build churches, go out and convince people church-building is the thing to do, run workshops on how to finance, build, and register churches, and then they’ll offer to arrange church guest speakers who’ll come preach the Lefty line.
Righties need to do a better job of teaching each other. And not just teaching the right-winger closest to them. The most organized groups on the Right are the pro-life and RKBA activists; everybody else on the Right should be learning from them.
The second thing to understand about Lefties is how they actually function. There’s a lot of independence involved. Righties like hierarchy, so often think of the Lefties as taking marching orders from George Soros or whoever in a very hierarchical fashion. Not so much. A lot of left-wing organization is very decentralized, and they negotiate with other lefty groups as to exactly how they’ll do things and time things to not hurt each others’ work, so the labor movement’s march is not derailed by black-bloc window-smashing (see, for example, DIRECT ACTION, L.A. Kauffman’s excellent history of the Left from the 60s on).
The Lefties call that approach “embracing a diversity of tactics,” which, taken to its logical extent, is a weasel-worded way of saying that the lefty mainstream is comfortable with radical leftist violence. People don’t like to talk about this much. But while it’s impossible to imagine, say, an abortion clinic bomber getting a cushy job at an elite university, that’s exactly what happened to a number of alumni of the 1970s leftist terror group known as the Weather Underground. As fugitives, they were financially and operationally supported by members of the National Lawyers’ Guild; afterward, they were so normalized that the 9/11 issue of The New York Times infamously ran a profile lauding Weatherman alumnus Bill Ayres. By contrast, right-wing terrorist Eric Rudolph’s fugitive days were spent hiding in the wilderness because no one would help him. He was caught literally dumpster-diving for food. Potential right-wing extremists face opportunity costs that their left-wing counterparts do not.
Righties frequently make allegations of paid protestors when Lefties get a bunch of people together. Again, that’s not how it works. Think of Lefty protests as being like a Grateful Dead concert. People absolutely got paid at a Grateful Dead concert: the band got paid, and the roadies got paid. But the Deadheads who followed the band around didn’t get paid. They weren’t roadies, they weren’t the band; they were there because they loved the music.
Lefties are excellent at protests, not because they pay seat-fillers, but because they’ve professionalized organizing them, as you’ll discover if you read any of their books. The protestors aren’t paid. The organizers are paid. The people who train the organizers and protestors are paid. Basically, the way the Lefty protest movement works is sort of like if the Koch brothers subsidized prepping and firearms classes.
Left-wingers have a combination of centralized and decentralized infrastructure, because they have different kinds of groups. Some groups use centralized organization: they’ll go out tabling, recruit people, trying to grow big. Other groups, particularly anarchists, favor a decentralized approach, where actions are performed by the collaborative actions of multiple small cells called affinity groups.
The affinity group structure began in Spain: anarchists there organized themselves into small groups of very close friends who knew each other very well, because such small groups were difficult to infiltrate. Even if they were infiltrated, exposing one group wouldn’t blow the whole organization.
The American Left picked up on affinity groups in the late 1960s. They started as a means for organizing protests and turned into a means of organizing movements. To coordinate, they send members back and forth to spokescouncils. The idea is to create a very collaborative discussion. This is partly due to the influence on the modern hard Left by Quaker organizers — if you remember those lengthy Occupy meetings that just went on and on and on, it’s because that’s how decision-making is done in Quaker meetings, and Quaker organizers taught the technique to Lefties in the ’70s anti-nuclear movement. And it spread, because lefties in different movements talk to each other and work together all the time.
By contrast, righty organizations have historically been slow to organize. When they do, right-wing activists tend to stay in their own lanes and not work together, share notes, or reach out to one another’s followers. Think about the mishmash of signs you typically see at a Lefty protest, and then try to remember the last time you saw, say, an RKBA sign at a pro-life rally. More unfortunately, when righties do become active, they tend to do something like start a blog. Or make a YouTube channel. Or write a magazine article. In short, they become street-corner evangelists. They tend not to do things in meatspace.
Lefties do the work in the real world. Guess who wins?
The recent Battles of Berkeley have shown that right-wing defense groups can acquit themselves admirably in street-fights, but hard experience has taught Lefties that an all-one-tactic mentality is a good way to give your opponents time to figure out how to counter you. If righties going to build things, they need to look at how the lefties are doing it, because they’ve been working on it for forty years. To paraphrase Trotsky, you may not be interested in politics, but politics are interested in you — and you can learn a lot from the people who’ve been working them to their advantage.
tldr; the left is organized and can send thousands of militants into one given area at any time while the right is a fractured unorganized mess.
The moment shit gets real 99% of the left will lock themselves in their basement and start crying uncontrollably.
Look, , the sixties are fucking over. The tacts these "people" use are done with the full knowledge and basic consent of the police. If the leftists hadn't co-opted the institutions, they'd be getting stomped all over the place. As it is now, most of what you see is utterly performative. The bomb-throwing anarchists are basically gone. Even Antifa won't throw so much as a fucking molotov!
If you don't believe me, consider which you'd like to get caught up in least: a 1000-lefty riot while you're wearing a MAGA hat, or a 1000-nigger riot while you're fucking white?
I wouldn't be caught in any of those circumstances because I'm not an imbecile.
can the white race survive a civil war?
Someone said to stock up on antibiotics. Where should I learn basic first aid so I at least know when to use shit?
Stock up on water, that is probably the most important of all.
I am fucked if anything happens in the next 5 years because I'm in California. My entire extended family is in California, too. Is it worth finding a relatively rural area here, or should I just abandon ship and find the whitest, most rural state out there? I don't want my children to grow up without grandparents, but my family isn't going anywhere.
Everyone has their heroes. Right-wing miracle workers is no different than the expectation of a worldwide workers revolution and utopic communism by those groups. Real life is dirty, much less clear cut, and often just mundane.
A counterpoint to this example would be the Ferguson Riots- It's well established that protestors *were* shipped in and paid via various back-channel mechanisms, with the money source being rich left leaning organizations and/or individuals. I agree Soros is very much a punching bag, but to say that modern left-leaning organizations function entirely with organic support seems a bit myopic.
The political right is very much forced to work in decentralized, semi-independent cells, as much due to bad-actor infiltration as a generally individualistic and frontier mindset, as well as actually supporting our current institutions and not feeling a need to replace them. There is constant worry about infiltration by government or other bad actors, and Waco / Ruby Ridge incidents in the 90s only helped to further that belief. Even recruiting seems to be only done once some level of vetting is done of an individual. Arguably without a true common enemy, we might not really see true political right organization- but with the increasing censorship of conservatives, we might start seeing a framework form and people begin to fall in line, or at least start getting a plan in place.
Red Cross and YMCA regularly have First Aid / AED / CPR certifications, if you're starting from nothing. It's also nice resume filler. Wilderness First Aid and basic EMT training are also options, but all these assume more advanced medical care is going to be available. Minor injuries can become complicated ones if you're days or weeks away from a doctor.
Basic prepping really deserves it's own thread. As for CA, up to you user but if things do go south, a major city is NOT a good place to be. I'd read up on having a bug out bag / bug out location, etc. if nothing else that's somewhere quiet, or at least with family. The last place i'd want to be if SHTF is alone and without anyone else to trust.
Don't do anything drastic, but slowly accumulate wealth for the sake of preparing water and shelter someonewhere safe. Don't move just yet, but try to put aside some of the resources for a safe outpost somewhere white. Don't get naturally selected man, be smart.
If the leftists hadn't co-opted the institutions, they'd be getting stomped all over the place.
And if the Soviets hadn't received support from America, they would have gotten stomped by Germany. Your plan will have serious flaws if you think that the world's oldest mafia will give you a fair fight.
Anybody here has tried spying on antifas, left/far left groups or joining some orgs to give information to our side?
Double post sorry, but Sun Tzu was very fond of spies, he used them for everything.
America is too armed for a civil war. Like with Switzerland, even pacifists have guns in America. The police in this country wig out about having to arrest armed citizens - and it does go wrong sometimes - but in terms of overall societal stability the gun issue is a “lean into it” thing.
I could go bust a power transformer. Am I going to? No. Millions of people have that power, but I bet it’s a long interval between people actually using it.
Hey, slave. Go make national headlines using your gun to take down a power transformer. Autonomous people don’t do such things because they have to live in the world they create, but slaves are just a point in time. It’ll feel good for a solid fifteen seconds!
I think one of them has a rubber dummy with magpul furniture attached to it
I do in my local town
they're all in the music scene, and some I worked with and chose to hang out with because I saw most of them with the double flag tattoos
I know where they all live, where they hang out, where they party, and where they throw shows. when civil war 2.0 hits I'm taking out the ones I feel are too far gone, because some are just kids that just want to skate and fight the system because it's what the punk rock music told them to do and I don't think they would kill. the ones with the flag tattoos… they're the ones who are gone.
That's good to know, I'm a musician so I'd have something in common with them. Also since women are almost always the weaker link in an organisation, what do you think about getting some "high ranking" commie gf to help you get infos on the leaders?
Trump strikes me as a tool for the Jews, and also as a Pied Piper, drawing out the various Right and White elements into the surveillance spotlight, and opening the way for a massive, criminal backlash against them over the long run. They won't push civil war, they are ALREADY ENGAGED IN 4th and 5th GEN war you DUMB ASS. They want to draw out, identify, and continue to covertly assault in a long drawn out South African Purge all those who stand in the way.
I left CA for the Midwest a year ago. I had similar reservations about my kids growing up without family but when it came down to it - none of my neighbors were white and my family is anti white anyways. Here's the thing though - where ever you move to the same disease that afflicts calufornia is present everywhere just in different stages. Polite sage for slight blogpost.
How do I know that death is based? Kikes hate it!
How do I know gingivitis is based? Kikes hate it!!
How do I know that anything kikes whine about is based?
"KIKES HATE IT"
I'm here every Thursday night!
It's a shame. Living in California, surrounded by mexicans and other low quality races really does a number on my soul. It's rare for me to see a white person. I was looking at new hampshire, but it's really small, half the population immigrated there, and they seem to be well along the propaganda train. I just want to live somewhere white that I can acquire land and fortify for when everything collapses.
i'd advise against it. a "high ranking" commie gf usually means she's a rotten skag. A lot of these people let gutter/crust punks into their homes to sleep, and some women like sleeping with these people(along with sleeping with just about anyone else at the usual hangouts) because they're "adventurous"
What about the ones in NGOs?
I have no clue, I have my eyes set on the places I previously mentioned, but maybe I should start looking into NGOs. Thanks, user, I never thought about that.
NGOs weren't the only thing I had in mind, since we know that Trump is the last Republican White president, not that it really matters. Having hands, eyes and ears inside the enemy's camp could be great.
No, this is not how it is going to work. It is all going to be White, or it is all going into the night.
Nice pro-Trump yideo, OP, but if a Civil War happened, Trump and Clinton would be on the same team.
You don't need to knock out the ports. Just knock out the power supply.
Those giant cranes they use to load and unlock container ships take a lot of power and need a lot of support infrastructure that also chews up power.
They'll kept running a while with onsite generators but eventually fuel will become scarce. They won't be able to bring in enough to keep everything running and once winter hits they won't be able to keep everyone warm.
Fuel will get stolen, by the dockworkers or other people is irrelevant. Once the generators run dry the only way to unload cargo will be by hand. They won't be able to supply the entire city this way as they'll have to send smaller ships with smaller loads.
Then the city tears itself apart.
Meanwhile make sure to keep mortaring airfields. You need the airstrip full of potholes and covered in shrapnel. So nothing can land or take off.
Realistically you don't need to.
What you need to do is cause enough damage to the structure that general use will make it suffer some kind of failure.
In the case of Jew York the whole city is dependent on bridges as it occupies a collection of islands. Or at least the parts relevant to us do.
WRONG!!! He's wrong. (the guy in the webm).
The establishment MICC will not lose faster the more funding and tech it gets. It is NOT going to waste. THEY ARE SPECIALIZING IN 4th and 5th GEN WARFARE! Do this idiot NOT see the obvious? They are working JOINTLY with industries now SPRAYING US. They are EMBEDDED in all media. THEY CREATED THE INTERNET(S). They are pushing the frontiers of LAWFARE. They are engaged in DIRECTED ENERGY GRIDS, not just mobile platform units! THEY ARE ROLLING OUT POGROMS DISGUISED AS NORMAL LIFE! OPEN AIR GULAG, and this guy says they are "wasting their funding". HAH.
a magacuck appears
Get the fuck out.
And I forgot to mention they are working in POST PRESENT. They work in what we can only conceive as our "future" if they hadn't sequestered the PAST from us since Maxwell and Tesla. This man is a TALKING HEAD and he knows it. That's why I've always hated these people. I work with PURE TRUTH and I do not tolerate this putrid grey shit. If only you knew how Twilight Zone our "normal world" actually is. We are living in a fucking 4D MUSEUM! We are being kept as experimental cattle and THAT'S IT. Need I mention the nanotech that can monitor each cell in your brain in real time and interact with a system of computing that is distributed all over the damn place but feeds into Fusion Centers and Brain Project Databases? Need I talk about psychotronics disguised as everyday conveniences like cell phones and wifi, which is about to be boosted to 5G right under our noses? (Trump wants 7G). Need I inform you that all this has been predicted by the better minds among us in Science Fiction for over a century? By the better minds among Scientists themselves? You are in deep shit.
why do you think he'll be the last republican white president? I was under the assumption he'd be the last president in general(a true president elected by our republic, and not any who'd come afterwards who'd be elected by the masses due to the fall of the electoral college).
The party pendulum swings every 8 years, after him it'll be a democrat, also there's won't be enough Whites to outvote the 3rd world trash, that's when we'll start seeing White people rebel. Ballots won't works so bullets will have to.
12 gauge shotgun, and a hand loader.
.45 acp side arm.
Your shotgun shells are reusable, and can be loaded with about anything you want. With a scope on your shotgun you have about a 300 yard range with a slug that will guarantee a drop. And can be switched to bird shot when your worried about over penetration.
Anywhere with a population of Aspiring Rap Artists nearby is going to be full chaos. EBT stops working expect chimp mobs ransacking wypipo, because "wypipo did dis". Full Somalia.
Low i.q. beaners will default to cartel gang structure. Kidnapping and murdering because "wypipo el taco bueno".
If your going to get an ar style firearm make it a 458 socom.
Art thou a faggot of OP proportions?
Civil war in the USA ha ha ha
ho ho ho hee hee hee
posts left wing fantasy propaganda
I'm not an imbecile.
Do you even know how to hold a firearm? Have you ever seen one that wasn't in a movie?
Nah, lefty states fall because they are economically unsound and focus on irrelevant issues, creating more vulnerabilities and fractures in their already unstable infrastructure. It's entirely possible for people of different colors, races and nationalities to exist in a cohesive unit, as long as they all understand that they are part of that unit. You literally cannot let people into America who don't want to be American. If you do, they undermine you from within. Period. That's it. It's that simple.
Ehhhh… Decently. The thing is, most urban buildings aren't built to just crumble the moment they get hit with a bomb or missile. You're far better off just clearing a building by kicking in the door and going in yourself. Something a lot of people tend to forget, even here on Zig Forums, is that the military itself is mostly made up of people who, in the event of an actual civil war 2.0 taking place, would very quickly just slaughter the entirety of the left. And they actually know how to use artillery, unlike rando hillbillies who think successfully throwing some shitty frags they bought off amazon makes them artillery experts.
Oho, an Ancap? I'm just going to say "you're bad at working and making money. That's not capitalism's fault. It's yours".
Aren't the North Western states mostly red in terms of voters, but somehow ended up with mostly blue representatives? Sounds like Oregon's current situation.
Its Googles and Migrants VS Im Not Paying for Yo Shit.
Civil War: American Dick VS Googles and Soros
mfw the break action and bolt actions arms are the only legal arms in my country and you would see significant jail time for using them in self defense
==Civil War 2.0== Probably will suck, but we will watch it on Netflix anyway.
tfw from dakotas
Thanks guys, yes it's pretty comfy here.
Whoever wrote this is a self-indulgent retard.
It's entirely possible for people of different colors, races and nationalities to exist in a cohesive unit, as long as they all understand that they are part of that unit.
The fuck kind of crack are you smoking to imagine that's even possible?
13% of the population committing 50% of the crime. With the real figure likely closer to 80% if you included unreported crime.
Everyone knows at least one based black person. But for every one there's a 100 others that are just straight up niggers and no amount of empathy for them is going to change that.
We need to give black people their own state. Let them prosper like they did under segregation. They earned their own state through slavery.
Sure, it'll turn into some kind of shit hole, but that's better than having a bunch of grandma raping pants hanging future astronauts looking for a cell phone to snatch spread across the U.S.
Underrated comment. You're a smart goy.
We need to give black people their own state
I don't have any direct links to left leaning groups atm, but I'm curious to hear if there's any inklings of a "plan" if Trump wins in 2020, gays get thrown in camps, etc. What is their trigger point for war, if there is one? So far they seem ideologically fragmented and there's no coherent goal or set of goals, beyond the same old "fuck the alt right" and socialism drivel.
can't even get white people to have children and/or care about themselves as a group
there are people dreaming up sieges and whatnot
Hi FBI.. whatcha doin?
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