/leftypol/ explains why they’re marxists

Aiden Myers
Aiden Myers

Might be something on interest to you guys, understand the enemy and all.

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Sebastian Hughes
Sebastian Hughes

Whatever legitimate concerns they have over entrenched (((Capital))) and the current mode of production, or just the plight of the workers, is completely overshadowed by the ZOG'd up built-in jewish power structure of Communism. They are not ever going to concede the fact that the jews have to go (In Minecraft, those dirty villager rats) because they're ideology is fundamentally philosemitic, just as much as the (((Capitalist))) ideology is.

But, it is invaluable to see the motivating factors behind a given individual's determination to stick with such a jewish system. No doubt a look through /liberty/ will give a similar result, as any observation of the enemy would.

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Josiah Murphy
Josiah Murphy

Well, of course, they agree with the same problem as us, the difference is they're about class and we're about race.

Juan Lewis
Juan Lewis

Communism is inherently anti-jewish, ever wonder why so many kikes are so neo-liberal and pro-capitalism?
race is stupid but I still agree that each collective of ethnic groups and nationalities is a good way to organize and minimized racial conflict.

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Jayden Sanders
Jayden Sanders

their faggotry is impossible for me to read

Henry Sullivan
Henry Sullivan

Why would I want to understand my enemy? As a whole, their plan is misguided, ill-informed and evil.
Why would I want to understand the individual parts that make up evil?
When cancer is removed, the surgeons goal is to remove EVERY cancer cell there is no point leaving some left. The surgeon doesn't need to understand a small minority of the cancer cells to do his job.

Once one tolerates multiculturalism, they are lost and must be removed. The amount of time and resources it would take to swing them back in to the realm of truth is too great.

Connor Parker
Connor Parker

Narcissism/perversion.

William Morales
William Morales

more pronouns than actual words
short sentences that flow like a car driving over potholes at 90mph
every reply reads as what is essentially a man submitting himself to the emotions of another man
"I didn't become a Nazi because they're stupid and unreasonable!!!!!"

Yeah, thank you for reminding me why manchildren adopted a manchild philosophy.

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Chase Carter
Chase Carter

I'm merely stating an obvious

Leo Anderson
Leo Anderson

Thanks for articulating this. I couldn't put my finger on why I couldn't understand the posts in that thread. It's almost like reading a broken AI trying to speak English for the first time.

Angel Foster
Angel Foster

I was permab& from /leftypol/

Camden Thomas
Camden Thomas

Watch this:

Michael Adams
Michael Adams

#Metoo

Nolan Russell
Nolan Russell

lol ok so what about my post was narcissism/perversion?

Joseph Watson
Joseph Watson

No I was backing you up.
They think in terms of class because of narcissism and to justify their perversions.

Brody Gonzalez
Brody Gonzalez

oh soory my bad

Brandon Bailey
Brandon Bailey

Communism is inherently anti Jewish
Karl Marx the literal founder of communism is a Jew, not even mentioning Jewish Marxist intellectuals like Lenin, Trotsky, Adorno and many others.

Isaiah Foster
Isaiah Foster

Actually it's more like
Okay how to explain this…
Let's say you're a stand up citizen with good morals.
A pervert thinks lowly of you because they think lowly of themselves because they can't compete. So it's a form of projection.
They're the second class citizen, so they project that feeling onto the good moral character and in so doing, they create a caricature, another version of that person, a strawman.
And in so doing this, they construct an entire reality to protect the fallacies.
It's all in the manner of avoidance of the struggle the moral person went through to develop the good morals.
Race has no bearing to the perverts because they need all the allies they can get.

Christopher Cruz
Christopher Cruz

leftists are marxists because they hate themselves and wish to be a jewish cuck slave (unless they are jewish themselves).

Kayden Wright
Kayden Wright

Seems like peak narcissism. Not happy with your hand in life contradicting your ego's overburdening desires and so make everyone believe adhere to your contradicting wishes and that should make for happiness– but it doesn't seem to make anyone happy, which is why the left weaponizes them. They the useful idiots' useful idiots. If you only read more…, if you only marginalize your self more, if you only victimize yourself more.

Nathaniel Phillips
Nathaniel Phillips

The dumbest post I’ve seen in a month

Luis Torres
Luis Torres

That's why they can march in parades all month because they have no other bonding experiences to have or look forward to other than maybe some impersonal concerts or some other sense shattering experience.

Carson Jones
Carson Jones

And why they can activate on a moment's notice, in a weaponized fashion as you've said.

Nathaniel Hill
Nathaniel Hill

Why does every faggot in that thread start with their fucking life story? It's insufferable to read. Who the fuck cares where you grew up? Jesus Christ, I could barely get past the first few replies.

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Jonathan Allen
Jonathan Allen

I tried reading it again. I can't.
There's something about the wording and sentence structures that just feels like they are written by people who are struggling against common sense every second of every day.
Almost like deep down they know what they believe is a lie yet they must put in effort in to suppress logic.
I know they may say the exact same things about us, but in the end only one of us has truth on our side.

Dominic Martin
Dominic Martin

Why would I want to understand my enemy?

To better combat them, understanding their ideology, motives, and personalities is the best way to understand the best way to counter them.

Once one tolerates multiculturalism, they are lost and must be removed. The amount of time and resources it would take to swing them back in to the realm of truth is too great.

We were all anti racists at some point. One “convert” is pretty much priceless at this point, considering how few of us there actually are.

Michael Perry
Michael Perry

It’s basically unreadable. The same pseudo intellectual markov text communist word salad. It makes no sense.

Ethan Sanchez
Ethan Sanchez

Sheer power is the best way to counter them. Water can easily put out fire, but if you have enough fire you can split the hydrogen and oxygen atoms apart completely.

Andrew Miller
Andrew Miller

Dr Edward Dutton is our nigger. I've even heard him lowkey drop Evola references before. Guy is secretly fash, no doubt.

Levi Cooper
Levi Cooper

It's like someone doesn't have a keyboard so they copy paste a bunch of words from their favorite blogs together.

Thomas Brown
Thomas Brown

check this out. I can just type words into my phone with few if any proper nouns and you get my point. I could say something simple like “muslims are breeding in at least one majority muslim city in Michigan to form an ethnic enclave” and you don’t need anything further. I don’t need any theory or even proof to have made that point. I’ve possibly transmitted some knowledge that you might not have had, which is that this is no longer just a eurpoean problem that only happens elsewhere. this place will be fucked in 20 years because nobody will stop it. Try coming back from that thread with a single useful insight about anything. They have somehow educated themselves and come away less intelligent from it. It’s incredible.

Matthew Nelson
Matthew Nelson

Karl Marx was a Jew. All forms of Marxism are a Jewish construct to control retarded goyim. Judeo-Bolshevism especially, hence the name. (((Mainstream historians))) may tell you the Judeo part is a myth made up by the NSDAP but make no mistake - The Führer was absolutely correct in this regard.

The only proper way to deal with Commies is a firm boot to the back of the skull or a bullet through the brain.

Why do you think the tranny faggot BO that runs /leftypol/ bans any National Socialists for life on sight? He fears National Socialism. He knows one day he and all his tranny NEET friends (which describes the overwhelming the majority of Marxists and Antifa) will hang for it and it will be us holding the rope.

I know you faggots lurk here even though you kvetch about the NAHTZEES on Zig Forums constantly. Your board has a handful of users and half of them are trolls from here.

Your day will come. Ours is already on the way.

HEIL HITLER!

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Brandon Green
Brandon Green

Because OP was a fag.

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Juan Johnson
Juan Johnson

Communism will win.
Seriously~
You think I'm shilling but I'm not.

Justin Turner
Justin Turner

Communism will win.
It wins because people are low IQ.

David Hernandez
David Hernandez

I don’t think that’s true. Most of them seem to really feel like private property is an inherent ill. Pretty big difference from most rightists.

Nicholas Russell
Nicholas Russell

They're white so they have a vague sense of justice. The problem is they're all total queers who had rich parents and were bullied in school for being twinks. It warped their mentality so they see the government both as their parents (gib allowanceplz) and their bully (FUCK YOU I WON'T DOWHAT YOU TELL ME).
They're losers who almost get it but let their personal emotional grievances get in the way.

Jordan Foster
Jordan Foster

Communism can never win because it beats itself.

Matthew Thompson
Matthew Thompson

Nobody thinks this is shilling. It’s far too overt and obviously stupid to be shilling.

Jace Peterson
Jace Peterson

zigforums.com/thread/2906179/right-politics
I've been wondering why each of us here ended up on /leftypol/ rather than Zig Forums
you made this thread. /leftypol/ completely lacks introspection and therefore would never make this thread

Jayden Sanders
Jayden Sanders

Communism is inherently anti-jewish
I read a lot of dumb shit on this site, but this just took the cake. You have to be trolling.

Austin Ramirez
Austin Ramirez

That’s what 99% of /leftypol/ posts are, quoting Marx or other Jews and spewing buzzwords at you like “materialist”, “idealist”, “reactionary”, “exploitation”, etc. I’m no fan of capitalism and am more of a Pentti Linkola / Ted Kaczynski fan, but this shit is just unbearable to read

Jeremiah Garcia
Jeremiah Garcia

It wins because the GOP is pushing corporate Socialism.

Caleb Hall
Caleb Hall

I read a lot of dumb shit on this site, but this just took the cake. You have to be trolling.
I hope so. Because it's just Judaism by another name.

Ian Smith
Ian Smith

It wins because the GOP is pushing corporate Socialism.
You're low IQ

Adam Gomez
Adam Gomez

not focusing on race AND class
The only non-cucked position tbh. It’s what most of the people posting on /fascist/ are nowadays

Leo Price
Leo Price

corporate socialism
aka
please let’s define these terms and pick them apart and argue semetic semantics
It’s a road that leads to a river. What possible good can come of it? I’d rather talk about anything else.

Justin Ross
Justin Ross

I didn’t though

Jeremiah Sanders
Jeremiah Sanders

I’m inclined to believe you

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

Let's have a look at the facts my braindamaged drooling at the mouth, intellect of a donkey friend shall we?

SOVIET GOVERNMENT, 1919.

ALIAS. . . . . . . . . . . . . REAL NAME. . . . . . . . ETHNICITY

Lenin ………………………..Oulianoff ……………….Partly Jewish

Trotsky……………………….Bronstein …………….. Jew

Stekloff ………………………Xachamress …………. Jew

Marloff………………………Zederbaum……………..Jew

Gottsief ………………………Prapkine……………… Jew

Kameneff……………………..Rosenfeld……………..Jew

Soukhanoff……………………Grimmer……………..Jew

Lagesky……………………….Krachmann…………..Jew

Bogdanoff ……………………Silberstein ……………Jew

Goreff…………………………Goldmann……………..Jew

Ouritsky………………………Radomselsky………….Jew

Voladarsky……………………Kohen…………………..Jew

Sverdloff ……………………..Sverdloff……………….Jew

Kamkoff ……………………..Katz ……………………..Jew

Gattesky………………………Eurstenberg…………..Jew

Dann…………………………Gourevitch………………Jew

Meshkovsky…………………..Goldberg……………..Jew

Parvus……………………… Gelphanat……………….Jew

Rossanoff……………………..Goldenbach………….Jew

Martinoff………………………Zimbar…………………Jew

Tehernomovsky……………Tehernomokdich………..Jew

Pialnitzky………………………Levine…………………Jew

Adromovitch ………………….Rein……………………Jew

Lointzeff……………………….Blechmann……………Jew

Zvezditch………………………Fonstein………………Jew

Radek…………………………Sobelson………………..Jew

Litvinoff-Wallak………………Finkelstein……………..Jew

Lunatcharsky………………….Lunatcharsky………..Russian

Kolontai……………………….Kolontai………………..Russian

Peters…………………………Peters……………………..Lett

Macklakowsky………………. Rosenblum……………..Jew

Lapinsky……………………… Levenson………………Jew

Vobroff…………………………Natanson………………Jew

Ostodoks……………………….Akselrode……………..Jew

Gasine…………………………Gerfeldt………………….Jew

Glasounoff…………………… Schulze…………………Jew

Lebedieva………………………Limso…………………..Jew

Joffe……………………………..Joffe…………………….Jew

Kamensky………………………Hoffmann……………….Jew

Naout…………………………..Gunsbourg………………Jew

Lagorsky………………………..Krachmalnik……………Jew

Isgoeff………………………….Goldmann……………….Jew

Valdimiroff……………………..Feldmann………………..Jew

Bounakoff………………………Foundaminsky…………Jew

Manouilsky……………………..Manouilsky……………..Jew

Larine…………………………… Lourie…………………..Jew

Krassin…………………………..Krassin………………..Russian

Tchitcherin………………………Tchitcherin……………Russian

Goukovsky………………………Goukovsky…………..Russian

Soviet Government (1919): Summary

Bureaucracy……………..Total number………….Jews

Peoples Commissaries…………22…………………17

Provincial Commissaries……23……………………21

Commissariat of War…………43……………………33

Foreign Affairs…………………16……………………13

Finance……………………………30……………………24

Justice……………………………..21………………….20

Public Instruction………………53…………………42

Social Assistance…………………6……………………6

Labour…………………………… .8…………………….7

Total number of Bolshevist Government officials in 1919: 545

Total number of JEWS in Bolshevist Government in 1919: 447

DIE

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Connor Miller
Connor Miller

Imagine what Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao and Ceaucescu would do with degenerate spoiled bourgeois scum like this…kek

Dominic Evans
Dominic Evans

Even the US Army knew this in 1920. Thanks user.

Matthew Murphy
Matthew Murphy

there are only two types of Marxists.

kikes and their slaves. the slave in ops pic is just explaining their Nigger tier slave religion.

Christian Fisher
Christian Fisher

Brutal post. He won't recover.

Noah Evans
Noah Evans

Bertolt Brecht, commie playwright, hated to take care of himself. He tended not to bath, brush his teeth or shave. Communism is a Jewish boy's acting out against his controlling invasive bitch mom. It's fundamentally jewish even while it is antisemitic. It is a rebellion against control, even as it demands the benefits of control, and thus control itself.

Samuel Taylor
Samuel Taylor

That's 100 years ago. Got the numbers for today?

Isaiah King
Isaiah King

I think that my biggest issue with "socialism" and communism is that they try to abuse the good nature of white people. Our race was created through tens of thousands of years of shit terrain and weather, which genetically hardened us and instilled a unique sense of selflessness. That's what separates us from the other races. We don't need an overbearing government to force us to help our neighbors, and to be kind to one another. It's something that's built into us on a genetic level. Systems such as communism seek to force whites to share with the alien and the outsider, even when it's hugely detrimental to us. I believe that we have a fundamental right to exist, and that these systems seek to violate that right. And that's why they must be beaten back by any means necessary, including the summary execution of those who promote such cancerous ideologies which offer nothing but eternal slavery at best, and racial extinction at worst.

Look at it this way, we all exist purely to perpetuate our own bloodlines. Those who deviate from this path always die. This is natural selection. You will never be able to break free from this. It doesn't matter if you're pumping out dozens of kids or creating a new life saving medication, or building some bullshit entertainment widgets. All of these things loop back into one single goal, which is to exist. Luxury items which make life easier aid in the goal of reproduction by creating free time, reducing stress, and generally making living less risky. We came this far not because we're especially strong or smart or special, but because we're stubborn little fuckers. We'll make it through this bullshit, too. The last 10,000 years has proven that.

Because understanding your enemy and their motivations gives you a tactical advantage. The problem with modern leftists is that they have no morals and they're motivated only by their own selfish desires. They will burn the world for one more orgasm and one more line of blow, for no other reason than they're just filthy fucking degenerates. Even this base level of understanding is enough to work with. It tells you that there's no reasoning with them, and that you need to just chew through them with a shotgun until there's a pile of gore on the ground.

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William Cox
William Cox

people rationalize being marxist by saying they're in it for some common good but in reality they just want to be card-carrying party members and wouldn't be caught dead doing any kind of manual labour

Joshua Cooper
Joshua Cooper

That thread read like a cringey attempt at recruitment from Zig Forums: "I loved [alt-right e-celeb] but then I realized they were a hack and now I know the Marxists right."

Dominic Collins
Dominic Collins

Yet you still defend capitalism which is even MORE Judaized

Caleb Myers
Caleb Myers

None of us like capitalism, go to /liberty/ for that.

Isaiah Moore
Isaiah Moore

Bailouts for Farmers - Corporate Socialism.
Israeli Welfare - Corporate Socialism.
GM paying Zero in Federal Taxes but getting a $500 Million Tax Refund all while closing plants in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania etc - Corporate Socialism

You are low IQ

Aaron Evans
Aaron Evans

They're fucking pathetic, they won't even go help out their always stillborn communist shitholes that they "supposedly" believe in, they never did it ever.

That's because they don't believe in what they preach, they are just a bunch of spiteful loser good for nothings who just want an excuse for thievery and chaos and to steal/parasitize from normal regular people who worked hard for a living.

Compare that to if tomorrow a national socialist state was created in a country, literally everyone would go there and help out. Like how everyone from all around the world went to franco's spain and enjoyed themselves there.

If it is it's the most hilarious shit i've ever seen.

No comment on how factually your miserable and failed ideology is 100% jewish in nature and origin? Of course, you dishonest rat no surprise there.

Funny though even though I don't defend (((capitalism))). Just kill yourself semite cocksucker and bootlicking donkey. Pic related is probably you irl(ur probably a tranny now since the meme is old lmao). Nothing is more abstractly semitic and destructive than communism.

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Nolan Jackson
Nolan Jackson

You are low IQ
No, you are.

Henry Smith
Henry Smith

they're about class and were about race
The Aryan People weren't white. National Socialists weren't white either.

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Jackson Allen
Jackson Allen

Ass blasted altkikes are kvetching in moms basement rn

Chase Ward
Chase Ward

National Socialists weren't white either
Most of them were. The only fictional thing that came out of (((Hollywood))) in that regard is the supposed hatred for non-whites. The National Socialists believed that every race has their place, and that actual diversity in the form of keeping your race and national identity pure was more important than creating unnecessary divisions based on skin color.

Isaiah Russell
Isaiah Russell

Said the natsoc that israel is.

Elijah Cruz
Elijah Cruz

But can we make it use a Nazi ascetic?

Isaiah Rogers
Isaiah Rogers

Dissecting some of their arguments from that thread, that weren't "oh i'm actually a spic so i'm to insecure to admit that whites are better and ought to be left to their own countries and i want to stick it to those who made me feel bad" (these people never address the scientific genetic truth between the races)
and "i'm empathetic and not some loooooser schoolshooter" ie. i'm to emotionally attached to these brown people that i have formed attachments to, because admittedly not all non white people seem that bad in real life, but in the scheme of things you will not solve the neoliberal effectively by cucking to these people.

The only way for the nazis to actually be a powerful nation instead of a shithole like Francoist Spain, Pinochet's Chile or Fascist Italy was to invade other countries though. The only reason why the nazis had an actual power was because they focused their entire economy to wage war.

This is an idea i often hear used by leftists (which is pushed by Jewish intellectuals, but in good faith i'll pretend to ignore that part).

By this logic Fascist Italy would have been a super power, which it was not due to the inferior genetic makeup of the italian "nation" which was filled with mix raced southerners. This led to Mussolini's Civ. Nat/cuckservative approach that required for his military to be filled with incompetent aristocrats and loyalty officers, just as a communist nations. Ideally Italy would have had a racially based caste system with northerners in charge, and competence over love of "il, Duce"

because fascism is only really good for consolidating all of a nation's resource to wage a quick war in which you steam roll your opponents.The fascist's heart is weak because it relies on power and fear to induce subordination, and the prospect that going to war would be a simple task for the average, everyday lumpenprole degenerate who wants plunder and land off the backs of other's hard work was the sole reason why Germany didn't immediately collapse.

Ah yes all those french and polish weapons, tanks and consumer goods found in Germany, while German engineering did naught, panzers, mp40's and all these wonderful products were actually stolen from the communist jews. To be fair foreign armaments were also used however the majority of the goods were designed and produced by Germany. Now if they want to make the argument that this is unjust imperialism, it serves the nation and the people, unlike communism which historically serves no one (except for maybe some Jews) and destroy societies, or capitalism that only serves the sociopathic race traitors and the (((jews))) they work for.

Fear and subordination are an overblown Hollywood trope. I can accept there were disciplinary and security measures, considering the sheer amount of land that Hitler conquered, thus the half truth foundation for the holocaust lie, however the same methods were taken by the Americans (interment camps) and even more by the tankies. So let us say our friend isn't a tankie and believes in some other weird syndicalist pipe dream (probably due to the unfortunate fact that they are some mulatto unfit to be a National Socialist) then he would fall into the camp of CNT-FAI another bunch of commie rejects who were as brutal and harmful to their own people, especially the proletariat they claimed to help with their commie death squads. Judging the National socialist with these false propagandist claims is typical left bullshit.

Fascists rely either on a powerful capitalist state like America to prop them up, or constant war.

A country in the grips of world economy needs trade with the world, wow what a bunch of stormfag hypocrites. Of course there was trade before the war with capitalist nations because the country was already set up to rely on it. However the audacity to claim communists did not receive aid and lend lease at a far greater extent from their (((jewish))) overlord is idiotic hypocrisy. Additionally with the resources fairly traded from western nations Germany actually improved life for their people and quickly, while the (((democrats))) in the united states did so enough that their horse and pony show could last a couple more decades to keep down these goyim uprisings. Oh and what do communist nations do in practice with their economic power for their people, shit everything up so Jewish oligarchs can plunder the nation more later on after the revolution (China and their suicide nets, Russian and its Jewish mafia oligarchs)

Also its interesting how they admit the (((capitalist))) cabal is global one, but the second Hitler takes on the globe to stop it it's a sin.

James Gutierrez
James Gutierrez

Different response
Also for anyone interested in modern fascist recruitment propaganda, I would watch this video by the metal band "Bronson," which is linked to Casa Pound in Italy:

The whole thing is addressed, very deliberately, at that lonely kid on the computer who sees these smiling tough guys who are saying "we're your friends" and will slap you on the back while going "cheer up, bucko." There's also this gang-style undercurrent of violence (shaking the fist at the camera) and glamorizing smoking and drinking in parts – which might not be what I would've expected but there you go.

So what? We should shun violence while niggers and spics live of our work and call us oppressors? Their own ideology calls for violent revolution, and any person with half a brain cell who's familiar with history knows that violence is always a possibility and one should be ready for it.

Daniel Hernandez
Daniel Hernandez

Another
Insightful post and recalls what I've seen here in the U.S. – like a lot of people who go Nazi (including a friend of mine who became a full-blown neo-Nazi skinhead) are the kids who sit in the back of the class and don't make eye contact with anybody. And Nazism offers them empowerment or, at the very least, revenge. You can see this in Hitler's pouty dog-faced expression. It's the pathetic look of a man who has suffered (or feels himself to have suffered) an ocean of terrible wrongs. I risked veering somewhat in this direction and my brother was definitely at risk, and had gravitated toward reactionary stuff, but he just grew up, got a girlfriend and became a Marxist.

While i suppose this is true for a good amount of people here, this is just shaming people for being loners. In my opinion this is irrelevant and completely incorrect in my anecdotal case (i'm pretty extroverted) but this is just a consequence of this retarded society we live in, where the family has been destroyed, where community is gone, where people are thrown away for not being good enough to advance anyone's social standing in this material social hierarchy of modern society. If i had a biological relative or a country man who was autistic, retarded and already born (ideally with either eugenics or gene editing they won't be) that human who is in my nation still has the haplotypes of my ancestors and should be given the opportunity to strive for the best individual greatness that he can. IF there actions are foul and harmful than he should be shamed and reprimanded but he deserves a place within the world, maybe even to carry on their haplotype. This empathy i reserve for my own, and it is wasted on those who are not of my blood because that is not what biology dictates.

I think about it sometimes. I still visit /pol, watch white nationalist youtubers and sometimes I still get that feeling of thinking they are “my people”, but not because of their dumb ideology, more because I can relate to their sufferings and frustrations. I can see myself in them and it makes me sad that they are going through that path. The only reason why I escaped it it’s because my dual nature: I am Hispanic, but I was socialized in American websites in the internet; I am a considered white here, but I am a filthy spic there. Just because I had one foot in one world and one foot on the other, I could escape that madness that it’s the nazi ideology in the internet. Otherwise, I don’t think that I had been smart enough to refute it by myself.

Context this is from another reply green texted in this one. I'm polish and I can understand this shit on a superficial level, but Jesus this person is weak willed. Despite all the kike shills, or delusion-ally angry anons (victims of kike abuse to their beautiful fatherland) I do not hold it against (((pooland))) posters. The Jew, and the underlying flaws with European universalist culture are the reasons for his wretched situations, yet actions speak louder than words and commies thrown of a helicopter are a beautiful product of former Spanish colonies, and south american Amerinds, while not Europeans are not necessarily degenerate.

Well even in the American Nazi scene the definition of "white" is frequently opportunistic and well, totally meaningless (Amerimutts and all). Like to them, you're white one second and a spic the next depending on your usefulness to them. I've seen social media of American Nazis where one gets a Latin girlfriend and his buddies are like "something wrong big guy?" And he goes "oh it's cool… she's *Castillan*." But that's just because he got lucky enough to stick his dick into her a few times before she realizes she's hanging around the wrong people in a big way. This guy was a real psychopath too, which this scene often attracts, and the most dangerous thing IMO is that you get these shy back-of-the-classroom kids into these groups and they can be manipulated and/or victimized by some pretty dangerous people.

Wow look at this poor broken kid falling into american skin head larp and being conditioned to be a hypocritical psycho by jews. that's anecdotal and he ignores the real dangers to the world, the bankers who they supposedly fight against (and also the drug trafficking scum of nigger and spic gangs) who kill more human lives than the media circus that is american white supremacist shooters ever will.

Brody Harris
Brody Harris

It's funny that you mention this, because racism does seem intrinsically linked to different traumas with sexuality. In my case, I was pretty much an incel and I had this issues with masculinity (being called a woman, things like that), so I guess my reasoning was something like this: apparently I can't be a man, I can't have that spontaneity and even animality associated with masculinity and ""chads"", I’m a shy boy who spends his time playing videogames. Who has it? Well, in the social imaginary of western racism, black people are inherently animal and inferior but for the same reason they are considered hyper-masculine sexual beasts. And I, a whitey womanish boy, can't reach that. Therefore, my best refuge is exalting the superiority that I do have for being white: intelligence, a Faustian character, will and hard-work (never mind the fact that we are usually the very contrary to that, i.e. lazy, dumb and useless neet's, and when you realize that it becomes really ridiculous and pathetic). But that comes at the cost of also recognizing —at least subconsciously— my inferiority in the sexual aspect, my impotence, sterility and lack of success with woman. So it’s a contradictory game that constantly oscillates between extreme self-hate for knowing all of your lacks and failures, and the narcissistic hatred towards those considered “inferior”, with also love, devotion and servility for white strongmen. It’s sorta like sealing a pact with the devil: yes you get the whole satisfaction that comes with believing you are the best race, you have better genes and Autism Level, you are destined to greatness because you come from a long ancestral lineage of hardworking people and great conquerors and that infantile roleplay game bullshit; but at the same time, you are also buying knowing a really traumatic thing that instigates episodes of violence and hate: you are inferior and you will always be inferior to black people and chads in the sexual respect. The whole thing is constantly retroalimenting itself from failure, cucked racial fetishes and so on. In short, I would say it’s the ultimately cucked ideology.

A person who admits to being an insecure cuck, makes NDSAP into an outlet for his cuckoldry and is now a commie. Poetic. Self hating white, what a shame.

It's interesting, Zizek said something once in a talk with Peterson about pathologies that was similar to this.
In his example the man who is jealous of his wife and is always angry at her is pathological, even if he is correct. At this moment I knew that I disagreed with Zizek, and why this mindset is flawed. Its almost like some jewish trick to completely shut of your immune system. Just because someone has been traumatized by fire and now has a phobia, does not mean that you completely reprogram him to love fire. Watching alot of people in this thread is like watching a group of people in a room that is on fire, refusing to do anything and saying the fire is not bad because someone told them that they should not let fire be pathological. They're still going to get burned. Except it's getting turned into a slave for Israel and the Jews. Just because people blatantly choose to ignore reality with their complex mental gymnastics does not eliminate the truth that is AIPAC, the Rothchilds, the federal reserve, etc. It's reality. You shouldn't let yourself become psychopathic over it, and bitter in situations that it does not apply but when confronted by the truth you cannot delude yourself.

Leo Hernandez
Leo Hernandez

Why does /leftypol/ even exist? We should spam those nigger lovers

Jordan Hernandez
Jordan Hernandez

But fascists want to be respected for what they are, not really for what they personally accomplished, which is usually nothing. Thus why they always refer to what their ancestors allegedly accomplished as the reason for why they deserve recognition, e.g. "my ancestors build this great civilization, whereas Africans only lived in mud huts, therefore i deserve recognition". That's why fascists always get super pissed off and act personally insulted when anyone criticizes anything about western civilization or their nation.. Note that they don't care when they personally get criticized, probably they are already so used to it being losers that they have learned to just ignore it and at some point in their loser life they identified their self with their "people" as an organic being in order to get self-worth from the value they project on that collective being and to better be able to diminish the importance of their own individual life and so better cope with its failure. Fascists are perfectly content to serve as foot-mats of their superiors in a hierarchy as long as they believe that it is for the greater good of their people-organism with which they identify.

Alot of grandstanding about individualism from a person who's a commie on leftypol. I reject this outright, because tribalism and acknowledging science you do realize that life is an organism that is always striving for survival. Individualism and collectivist are both oversimplifications but also completely necessary. A janitor in a country that just launched a moon mission ought to be proud because his people put it there, and without the janitors and workers of the world the civilization would not be able to launch it. The astronaut should also be proud, because he actually accomplished that task. These two prides are not at odds, they are not falsehoods created by some sort of project trauma but objectively observable emotions of tribalism that all humans have. It is folly to reject our nature and to hate your people just because you love yourself or vice versa.

They want to be wheels in a machine and they don't care about being just a tiny, rusty wheel as long as the machine is glorious and defeating all the other machines on the battlefield.

This is a funny way of nihilistically shitting on the point of life in a very sad commie like fashion. Not all men will be the commander of the machine of life, but that is how life is regardless if it's a pack of wolves or a nation of men. The commie denies objective biology.

That's it for now these commies really type lots of dumb shit, but in the end it's not hard to refute their misguided world view. In conclusion lot of personal judgement and character attacks, sounds like talking to women, not in a I hate Women way grrr im an incel, more in a these people are not thinking about the world objectively but as some sort of social circle where people ought to be judged and shamed, but maybe that's just me.

Carter Smith
Carter Smith

There is nothing wrong with people making agreements with each other and trading their property

Levi Foster
Levi Foster

All that proves is Nazis were right about jews, they wanted you to associate innocent White people with terror.

Jordan Ross
Jordan Ross

This. It's yet another standard issue Jewish Golem.
It will always turn on it's creators because within every Jewish creation is the deep-seated Jewish desire or drive for self-annihilation. All 'Jewish behavior is fundamentally reduce-able to an act of indirect suicide.

Look up Marx. He was absolutely obsessed with death, like a fucking little Emo bitch. I think even one of his own daughters killed herself because it was such a prominent theme in their lives.

Cooper Lee
Cooper Lee

A 12 year old white girl already explained leftist to a tee. To be a leftist you have to subjectively retarded and have low emotional intelligence.

bitchute.com/video/lzg6FbLx0nL4/

They are all the same the bugmind.

Dylan Long
Dylan Long

Hitler blew his brains out.

Ian Gutierrez
Ian Gutierrez

Unless the Marxist / Communist view of civilization can account for race realism at a minimum it’ll remain a dead-end critique of capitalism.

Anyway this shit doesn’t matter. Money runs the world, and people everywhere regardless of race and IQ level only care about securing their individual positions and access to resources. There’s your real redpill.

Caleb Jackson
Caleb Jackson

To Add:

So it's not surprise why Leftypol trannies are so into it. The same underlying pathology to self-terminate while playing the poor victim of a cruel hateful world. They create the conditions needed to fulfill this drive. Even in victory they can't just settle and enjoy their existence, so they over-reach time and again until they achieve the result they actually desire.

If your ultimate "Victory Condition" is oblivion, equilibrium and prosperity and an optimistic view of the future for yourself and your group will be like cancer eating away at your bones. No gold will ever satisfy your greed. No sex will ever satisfy your lust. No amount of tropical sun will ever warm your skin. This is why even in victory Jews and Trannies pursue even deeper depths of depravity and degradation of themselves and others.

Pretty sure these days that's just another WW2 myth. Too many lies have been told.
But please, use it as inspiration if that's what you need to get over the line, Rotcrotch.

Camden Ross
Camden Ross

Communism will win. Soon.

Camden Perez
Camden Perez

The kikepedia page covering it is funny.

Evan Nguyen
Evan Nguyen

we're retarded
/thread

Brayden Gonzalez
Brayden Gonzalez

Good job cross-linking to another board, newfag.

Elijah Ward
Elijah Ward

Amazing how it's the same jew piece of shit spamming all these slides.

Juan Williams
Juan Williams

They are self-despising man children that crave the high of having power without any of the responsibility or accountability.

Oliver Bell
Oliver Bell

They classify the "jewish bolshevik theory" as a far right conspiracy and then go on to confirm it with the caveat of
n-not all

Brody Collins
Brody Collins

Blackpilling kikelett

Adrian Cox
Adrian Cox

jewish
All I needed to read.

Ayden White
Ayden White

Win what, nigger? There’s no coming back from ‘91. All you have now is some niggers in Africa and some spics in Ebinzuela.

Hudson Cook
Hudson Cook

we're about race
and not about mentality? really?!
another nazi liar
race is only a pretext
next you start cleanings on any basis
until destroy you
until someone destroys you

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Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers

I am a Trans-Pansexual Hybrid neo-nationalist Goldsteinist post soviet Taoist and Communist. I was born in the white suburbs and was raised among whites and some priviliged minorities, I went to a middle class school that enabled me to do higher education. It was in elementary school already that I was first confronted by bigotist classicism, the richer kids who lived in the rich neighbourhood always stayed togheter and would never share their toys with us middle class proletarian children. When in middle class this imperialist divid intensified I fell into a deep depression in these most important formative years of mine which lead to my nihilist outlook on life that conntinues to affect everything I do and think to this day. Due to my depression my grades started dropping and I become more withdrawn, leading to problems with both family and friends and that started a vicious downward spiral I was unable to escape from.
One day when I was browsing youtube for Lets Plays I stumbled upon reddit, I was blown away by the magnitute and diversity of topics, communities and people. Here we are all the same and I could speak from my soul without the oppressive boundaries of late stage capitalist socialization. I stumbled on the various LGBTQUIIP subs where I soon learned that I really requiered men, it was a deep void that was filled as I finally understood why girls didnt like me and I didnt like them. I could post pictures of my body and soon pose for nudes on chatrooms and people would tell me I am beautiful, it was such a uplifting experience.

But as I got older men took less interest in me, at first shaving was enough to do it, but eventually I was just to manly. All the positive attention was gone, I hated it and through this sorrow I learned more about transitioning. Sure, I had heard of it before, but it was always an obscure fringe idea I wasnt all that concerned with. But now I knew that it was my toxic masculinity which caused all my despair and dragged me down throughout my life. The girls were always more solidary than the boys who always picked on each other and tried to outshadow each other for the girls attention. When crossdressing for the camera I always felt great, the skirt become a liberating symbol as it left me the freedom pants never gave me. My stupid parents didnt want me to be happy, but when I was 18 and went to college I secretly started taking HRP and transitioning, now 5 years later I am a proud Trans woman socialist!

It was also there that I for the first time was confronted with socialist philosophy and stumbled upon babies first Marxists like Marx. I learned of the oppression of the masses by the capitalist parasities, the pain the proletarians had to go through because of their greed and all the wars they started between peace loving humans for their profits. So I started admiering socialist heros like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Ming, Che Guevara and other liberators of the masses. When I read of their heroic struggle against the evils of humanity I knew that I had to join this fight in the struggle for the good of the planet and I become a devout communist.

I stumbled upon /leftypol/ when I heard somebody was making it to combat Zig Forums, the fascist internet menace. I had only used reddit before and never Zig Forums, not even 4chan, but I felt right at home with my comrades and started the long path of infiltrating imageborad culture.

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Landon White
Landon White

our nigger
Checked

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Isaiah Morales
Isaiah Morales

This. Every single thing here is exactly correct.

Kevin Martinez
Kevin Martinez

We're not lolbert free market cargo cultists.

Caleb Cooper
Caleb Cooper

We should make 82% the new 13%

Jaxson Ross
Jaxson Ross

There is no winning nigger. This is Ragnarök, hold out until you eventually fall and a new epoch begins.

Jonathan Hall
Jonathan Hall

Do you think rich white gentiles (eg. Koch brothers) are not shitting up our society?

Adam Morales
Adam Morales

This Leftists are losing all over the world. It is time to kill them all. Never to tolerate them. They were the main cattle of the jews that ruined many countries. Now that they know that they will lose everything, they are trying to deceive people into tolerating them out of pity, and their current lies about "being on the same side".
Never forget. Never forgive. Those are the same subhumans advocating for children to be raped by faggots, for people to have their houses invaded and burned for being against marxism, for women to live freely without any consequences and force men to fix the problems that they create. All leftists are the same as jews, and must be killed along with jews.

Gavin Morales
Gavin Morales

communism will win
starving to death when the last zoo animal is eaten is winning if you wear the right label
Actually, you know what? That IS winning. Communists starving each other to death is a net positive for the world. Hey, you should emigrate to a communist country today! #winning

Aaron Cox
Aaron Cox

lol okay /leftypol/ fuck off.

Communism is the literal creation of the jews, Trotsky, Marx, Lenin all jews… they were the original revolutionaries because they hated being regarded as 2nd and 3rd class citizens around Europe.

PS, Dr. William Luther Pierce made excellent content talking about this.

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Evan Rivera
Evan Rivera

Why does every faggot in that thread start with their fucking life story?

Just a guess but I'd imagine muh backstory is what counts as currency on the normieweb as opposed to facts and logic.

Anthony Gonzalez
Anthony Gonzalez

jew mod endorsed spam

Ayden Baker
Ayden Baker

second one
express their alienation without giving them the right to do so
SINCE WHEN DOES SOMEONE OR SOMETHING HAVE TO GIVE ME THE RIGHT TO FIGHT EVIL YOU COMMIE FAGGOTS THIS IS HOW YOU CREATE FASCISTS GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Ayden Miller
Ayden Miller

Quality posts user

Carson Reyes
Carson Reyes

I don't even consider them enemies tbh. They're just psychotic or autistic weirdos within a larger, universalist system. Many are thugs and informers, but so are the alt kike. Anyway, those of us who aren't mutts will continue selecting for our survival, and that's the end of that. Genetic dead ends and race traitors can do what they want.

Justin Russell
Justin Russell

I made that post, as well as the one that you begin by mocking for being from a sentimentalist spic (I admit it didn't have many true arguments, but I tried to give them later).

I get your point. But it's simply that we have differences in our analysis of reality. From our point of view, the thing is not on fire because "immigrants and jews". They might be a problem, sure. But that analysis is completely superficial. Why do people migrate? For example, the case in many latin american countries is that this places used to have subsistence economies, pretty much like some feudal economies in Europe. People was bounded to their land, and they were born in the same town they died. No instability in life excepting for climate and weather contingencies. But at the moment that capitalist relations were introduced in those countries, the way of living was fundamentally altered. People no longer had a land to subsist, and if they wanted to survive, now they had to move from point to point looking for a job to sell their labor force. This was a major change in the way people existed and lived. So take this fact and analyze it from a more global view: when countries collapse for X reasons (for example, in the case of a latin american country, it could simply be the fall of commodities prices), what do people have to do? Migrate. The change in existence brought by capitalist relations generates this successive internal and foreign migrations (not that migrations only occur in capitalism, but the constant flows and inflows of population that we see today are most probably a product of economic unrest, more than wars or other type of events). What you have is people that is no longer tied to their land and that can no longer depend on economies of subsistence. They have been taught to live "searching for a job", i.e. moving from one point to another —from one town to another, from one city to another, eventually from one country to another— to get their wage. This is the communist explanation of migrations, not "the jews". People are forced to migrate because that’s the way you might get to make a living in a global capitalist society. That's why, being a communist, you might dislike immigration, you might think it does harm a sense of white and european identity that has value (not all communist think like that, sure, but I know you guys don't think homogeneously either), but you don't explain it by alluding to the jews: you explain it by seeing social relations in different societies and the global effects that this relations produce. That’s why race is not a category of analysis in this way of thinking. That’s why we do recognize that the thing is on fire, but it’s certainly not because of racial differences, at least that’s not the deep cause (though we do know that different ethnic groups have different cultures and their clash is often conflictive and harmful for all parties, because either all of them lose their identities, or one group loses it at the expense of the other).
I will sage because I know this is kinda off-topic and maybe against the rules, I don’t really care if I get banned though, just trying to have a decent conversation and make some arguments, which I think it’s possible and quite productive.

Grayson Lopez
Grayson Lopez

but you don't explain it by alluding to the jews

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Joshua Bennett
Joshua Bennett

maladaptive spiteful mutants
jews write comic books where mutants are heroes
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judeo-bolshevism

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

it's all coming together, isn't it

Jacob Carter
Jacob Carter

You newfag fucks are giving the cunts a fucking stage.

Landon Hughes
Landon Hughes

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Asher Stewart
Asher Stewart

just asking questions and arguing oy!

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Robert Ward
Robert Ward

What's deeper than genetics, when we can predict even spirituality and poverty from alleles? Nature is the deepest we can go. You think you're fighting an arbitrary system when you raise your fist against racism and Nation Statism, but you aren't. You're declaring war on Mother Nature. The financial system you should be fighting is completely arbitrary and, as Marx says, jewish in origin, only you're married to Manchester Capitalism's gay disco war on Tradition. You believe wealth belongs to "the people", but you don't have a people. The working class want to work for their own race and people. They're telling you this in greater numbers, and you don't listen because your comrades think selling sex liberation is going to equalize us all. You're fighting nature and you're going to lose.

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Liam Howard
Liam Howard

Well, I really don't think that Mark Potok of the SPLC is instigating hondurans to migrate to the USA…

Let's consider the following, something that we both can agree: race is a factor of social cohesion (I don't think it's because of biology, more because it's a cultural significant but it doesn't matter, let's say that a racially homogeneous society is more likely to be a more cohesive society —even though I still think the primary contradiction of any modern society is between capitalists and workers, I do think that a racially homogeneous capitalist society like Japan is more stable and cohesive than, let's say, California with not only class tensions, but also racial tensions—). Okay, so, given race is a factor of social cohesion: why in the hell would hondurans migrate to america, a country in which they know they will be discriminated and seen as fundamentally different by the average white person (and I'm not saying that's right or wrong, morally bad or good, i'm just saying it's a fact like you guys also point out many times: racial clashes create social tension). Why do central americans migrate? Why do they go through the traumatic experience of walking miles and miles to enter to a completely foreign country? I'm sorry, but I just don't think that the reason is Mark Potok of the SPLC. It's more likely to be what I said: the desire for economic prosperity. That's the main reason why people migrate in capitalism.

Sure, so ONLY jews will support migration. Not that, say, 40% of white people in USA voted for the democrats to fill their country with hispanics. You might want to search for the name of each and one of these persons, they might be jews.

Mason Anderson
Mason Anderson

Understanding communism 101: Gibs me dat.

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Asher Smith
Asher Smith

is instigating hondurans to migrate to the USA…
I think Hondurans migrating to the USA are being finances by NGO's financed by jews

Jack Smith
Jack Smith

I literally don't give a fuck about sexual liberation. If any, I have a negative opinion of it. You have a severe confusion if you think that a democrat of a college student from the USA is marxist. Hell, have you ever read people like Foucault or postmodernists? They criticized marxism for being "too simplistic", for being racist and eurocentristic. They said Marx was racist because he supported british colonization of India and USA war with Mexico. That's the position of an orthodox marxist.

Andrew Gomez
Andrew Gomez

Notice these subhuman filth never justify the murders of tens of millions under Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, Stalin, Ceaușescu …but funny mustache man bad.

Camden Mitchell
Camden Mitchell

It's only murder when the bad guys do it. But then again Zig Forums also holds this view.

Thomas Smith
Thomas Smith

Those people do not have the intelligence or knowledge to function in a modern society. The best that can be done is satisfy their needs and desires and provide plenty of distractions. Increase the average intelligence and a first world country will emerge. Decrease it and you will get a third world shithole.

Ian Nguyen
Ian Nguyen

Not really. It depends on how you measure a "first world country", but take one example of latin america: Venezuela. Venezuela had a strong GDP growth and high wages during the 50's and 60's, while their population was almost exclusively amerindian. This was thanks to oil, not average intelligence.
More examples: Spain did not took off economically until the late sixties. What happened? Did Spain become white and smart during the sixties? Same case with many other european countries. Also, Russia. It has a shitty economy dependent on oil and gas, are they not white and european? Same thing could be said of germany during the nineteenth century, when they were considerably behind France and England until Bismarck came. Germans were seen as more rural, feudal and backward in general in the eyes of englishman.

Jaxon Allen
Jaxon Allen

Communism will win
It will then fail on itself
Whatever takes its place will not be Communism
That wasn't real Communism
And the cycle continues…

Jonathan Moore
Jonathan Moore

youtube.com/watch?v=PYcphj84_T4
This is your country now.

Eli Martinez
Eli Martinez

found a tranny

Cooper Hill
Cooper Hill

That or they're vagina worshiping desperate virgins who let their domineering wife/gf dictate what their beliefs are.

Landon Parker
Landon Parker

They're not about class except maybe the upper class. They support scabbing (mass immigration) that hurts our working class.

Sebastian Walker
Sebastian Walker

No we fucking don't. It's just that we don't believe that the cause of mass immigration is jewish propaganda.

see:

Aaron Murphy
Aaron Murphy

Why does every faggot in that thread start with their fucking life story?

It's just narcissism and the unwarranted sense of self importance. The same reason they take nonstop fucking selfies of themselves and post everything about their lives on the internet for the world to see, they just want attention. That and they love listing off their victim status checkboxes, and listing every reason that they are so "oppressed" and "victimized" by society and everyone else. In reality they are just in personal hells of their own making, and many are just mentally ill persons enabled beyond critical mass by modern society and wildly irresponsible psychiatry practices.

They're just emotionally damaged, maladjusted, mentally ill people with developmental disorders, or struggling with some form of childhood abuse they can't deal with or reconcile so it manifests in these bizarre thoughts and behaviors. On the one hand I can't stand these people but on the other they really do need help and wouldn't be half as bad if they weren't being exploited and turned into the nutsacks that they are by (((those))) who seek to politically weaponize them.

Tyler Robinson
Tyler Robinson

Jewish NGO's finance their trip, Jewish owned politicians fail to secure our borders, Jewish media demonizes anybody attempting to fix the issue.

But it's totally not jews and just totally natural that our country should be forced to be flooded with the 'natural migration of peoples'

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Leo Myers
Leo Myers

Spain's economy improved because once Franco cucked out to the king, economic warfare against Spain was halted. Russia suffered decades of communism and now jewish oligarchy. Germans were hardly backwards in the 19th century, both Austria and Prussia were great powers at that point, and the British Empire had a German ruling family, the house of Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha.

Jace Lee
Jace Lee

Why do you vote for mass immigration then, you bourgeois piece of shit?

Jacob Richardson
Jacob Richardson

this man. look trannies, we don't have to be enemies as long as you give up your psuedo-righteous conquest against the white race aka the innovators of technology, science, philosophy and government.

Adrian Kelly
Adrian Kelly

Not saying that you should accept it. Just saying that it's a natural effect of capitalist global relations for the reasons I exposed. We have seen it for a long time. Have you ever asked yourself why America has a great deal of european heritage? Why is it that the United States, Canada, Brazil and Argentina all received a great deal of european immigration? Was it because of the jews as well?

Spain economy was already decadent and backwards before Franco, while simultaneously countries like England and France colonized the world. It was a rural shitty country that struggled against africans in Moroco (by the way, just like the italians failing to colonize Ethiopia in the XIX century, losing a shitty war to niggers). German economy was also rural and underdeveloped for most of the XIX century, even though they had important cultural achievements, mostly great thinkers, philosophers and mathematicians. Most of Europe was really backwards except maybe for France and England. This was literally the reason why America was flooded with poor europeans from shitty underdeveloped countries like Ireland (which, btw, is another example of a white country being a shit in economic terms until very recently, the 80's and 90's).

I'm not american, I don't vote, and if I wanted to waste my time voting, I sure as hell wouldn't vote the democrat party.

Bentley Bell
Bentley Bell

Israel isn't a corporation you dumdum

Camden Cox
Camden Cox

they are, but the main focus should be excising the greater part of the tumor (kikes), at least for now.

Benjamin Bell
Benjamin Bell

Just saying that it's a natural effect of capitalist global relations for the reasons I exposed
You didn't expose anything, of course the poor brown hordes of South America want to move to the most prosperous country in the United States.

Yet they don't move here, they travel here illegally and use their coached statements to claim asylum. The coaching either being done or paid for by jews.

Jackson Bailey
Jackson Bailey

Country in the world*

William Cruz
William Cruz

explain why they are retarded
do you really need a reason to see that they are retarded?

Owen Turner
Owen Turner

They are NOT anti zionists. The mods on leftypol setup the board to replace ((())) with British flag emojis and anti-zog words on that board are automatically censored.

Thomas Davis
Thomas Davis

prison abolitionist
Cool so we can kill this freak and get no jail time for it

Levi Stewart
Levi Stewart

That's why their communism will never work. These kikes will never see themselves as classless or equal to goyim. They will always stack the deck in their favor and misuse the system they invented to benefit only themselves.

Henry Gutierrez
Henry Gutierrez

marxists
enemies
Let's all just be friends. whahahahaha. Let's not be tempted by dogma's, that in the end should serve us. Not the other way around.

I don't like that "woman"
Forget them for a minute to begin with.

Mason Baker
Mason Baker

easy. they know deep down they are failures in the eyes of their ancestors. so they dont want to be reminded. leftism is the religion of weakness and dysfunction. they cant be good or strong, so they have to attack that like niggers. the end.

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Carter Smith
Carter Smith

anti-Zionist

Not sure whether or not to like this. It seems good to be against Israel but on the other hand, this might just be due to them wanting Jews to stay seeded in all the other nations.

I would be very pro-Zionist if it meant Judea (they shouldn't call it Israel, they are descended from the nation of Judah) was the ONLY place Jews could live.

Joshua Bailey
Joshua Bailey

why in the hell would hondurans migrate to america, a country in which they know they will be discriminated and seen as fundamentally different by the average white person (and I'm not saying that's right or wrong, morally bad or good, i'm just saying it's a fact like you guys also point out many times: racial clashes create social tension). Why do central americans migrate? Why do they go through the traumatic experience of walking miles and miles to enter to a completely foreign country? I'm sorry, but I just don't think that the reason is Mark Potok of the SPLC. It's more likely to be what I said: the desire for economic prosperity. That's the main reason why people migrate in capitalism.

Not that I support capitalism, but no they don’t the migrate because of want, greed a desire for more. They get shit on by the capitalist farm owners in the states, but the white welfare state will supposedly provide their kids better education and give them housing. Capitalism did not sign the 1965 immigration act, Capitalism did not start subverting American society with a false ideal of tired hungry masses, Capitalism did not introduce a welfare state that is universal. White’s universal altruism and the Jews that took advantage of this did. The cultural shift began post gilded age, where the capitalism you criticize existed and admittedly that capitalism was not as Jewish as the one that exists today (Carnegie etc.) and yet the Jews already ruled the banks in London (Rothschilds, and stop ignoring these objective historical facts with oh antisemitism is pathological, it’s true, even if we judged each person individually a disproportionate number of the perpetrators and instigators of this scheme are objectively kikes). Blaming capitalism is ignorant of the facts, but also as useless as blaming guns for deaths or the sun for sun burns. It’s useless delusion that solves no problem. My spic friend, by pure (((Nazi))) standards I am a Slavic untermensch (well maybe I’m genetically German who knows patriarchly I’m from Podlasie or formerly ostpreussen) who is proud of his polish heritage, of the resilience my people faced surviving foreign subjugation and acknowledge the failing of the commonwealth and the second republic for falling for Jewish tricks that led to our downfall. Yet I will stand with my German cousins by slowly shifting the Overton window and hoping to one day see justice is done for the men of Europe who toiled for reason and truth above all else. I would also stand for South America because you are not Jews and deserve peaceful lives in your own nation states (which might take time to become homogenous and organic) in conclusion Communism is a flawed red herring that denies nature even if (in my opinion) there is not substantial proof Marx was Jewish, though his followers were mostly spoiled bourgeoisie Jews ironically.

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

It's more likely to be what I said: the desire for economic prosperity. That's the main reason why people migrate in capitalism.

I'm sure they do come here for prosperity, but not necessarily through capitalism. They realize that if they birth children here, they won't have to worry for their future as the kids can just go on welfare and collect gibs.

Gibs should only be for whites.

Nolan Diaz
Nolan Diaz

Capitalism did not start subverting American society with a false ideal of tired hungry masses

Have you ever heard the phrase: "give me your tired, your poor"? The truth is, America, a capitalist state, probably the first state in the whole world to be funded on purely capitalistic principles, has been promoting immigration for a long long time now.

Now, I am not going to deny the truth as you point it out: there's a lot of very very wealthy jews who largely control finance among other things, George Soros being the most famous right now. The communist argument is not some type of SJW bullshit that claims white people is devil and jews, niggers and women are poor victims, because clearly they're not. But that argument is the moralistic bullshit propagated by american colleges, and it's nowhere near what a marxist analysis means. What a marxist says is this: to the bourgeoisie that owns the means of production and makes a living out of selling in a competitive globalized market, there's nothing more important than profit. If a capitalists doesn't put profit above anything else, his profit rate will fall and he will eventually be out of business. He will fall among the proletarian: all of those who have to sell their labor force to survive everyday. He has no other option than becoming a globalized subject with no identity, with no bound no anything, individualized, with no community and no real beliefs or culture. Capitalism erodes culture systematically. Guess who was the first victim? Feudal Europe. So, is there any difference between a wealthy and powerful jew, and a prominent white gentile capitalist? No, there's not a single difference. The most prominent example: Trump.

You guys say it all the time: it's not only the jews, it's also the politicians who, bought with money, pass this ridiculous laws. Probably more than half of the republican party are WASP. There's no difference between a wealthy jewish and a wealthy white gentile who would put profit above anything else, just to stay in business, whereas a poor jew is of no harm to anybody. For example, nobody would say that the orthodox jews living in dirty ghettos in new york do any kind of harm. What do they control? Who do they influence? No one. So, who cares about their existence? No one. It's really a class issue.

The cultural shift began post gilded age, where the capitalism you criticize existed and admittedly that capitalism was not as Jewish as the one that exists today

Not really. European identity has been constantly erased since capitalism began. Have you ever read something like Charles Dickens or any other account of the XIX century? Money prevailing over anything else during the industrial revolution is what you'll find.

Blaming capitalism is ignorant of the facts, but also as useless as blaming guns for deaths or the sun for sun burns

Now there you have a point. It's true that sometimes talking about "capitalism" kinda seems like talking about a super abstract mechanism that rules the world, like some kind of divine or metaphysical thing. But we do put the blame on someone: precisely the capitalists. Of course, they are also doing the best for their interest and they're also trying to survive. But they are the ones who reproduce this system everyday in real life, besides abstractions and theory. And guess what? They're not only jews.

and stop ignoring these objective historical facts with oh antisemitism is pathological, it’s true, even if we judged each person individually a disproportionate number of the perpetrators and instigators of this scheme are objectively kikes

I genuinely don't believe that most of the republican and democrat party are jewish, whereas they are indeed very very wealthy people.

Adrian Gomez
Adrian Gomez

Have you ever heard the phrase: "give me your tired, your poor"?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Lazarus
Well isn't that a coincidence?

Aaron Hill
Aaron Hill

Made an oopsie there I guess.
But you still have one problem: yes, a jew wrote the verse. But why did they decided to put it in the statue of liberty? I presume it wasn't the decision of Lazarus. So, even if the jew wrote the verse, why did white governments decided to use it as their motto? Now you would have to say that America was jewish from the very beginning, but then, why do jews would promote mass migration from europe to have a 90% white population, only to destroy it 100 years later? I only a find one coherent answer: it's not the race that matters to the ones in power, it's the need for cheap labor force.

Owen Hill
Owen Hill

why would Jews not want a united white society
<it worked out so well that last time

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Kevin Bennett
Kevin Bennett

I'm sure studies have been done OP, its the structure of their brains, they're missing some important architecture in there. It's like the way women cant drive and dither on important decisions; the only answer is to spend MORE money.
I'd be glad is someone else had sauce to back this up for me..

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Cameron Myers
Cameron Myers

Now you would have to say that America was jewish from the very beginning
You do realize that America was not founded in 1903, yes? 120 years is more than enough time to subvert a government.

Austin Mitchell
Austin Mitchell

Kek, it's the real version of pic related

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David Rodriguez
David Rodriguez

they're about class
but they (((lie)))
the left stopped even pretending to be in support of the working class 30 fucking years ago with the fall of the berlin wall

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Logan Thomas
Logan Thomas

gif
lol figures
8ch needs a self delete feature

Nathaniel Parker
Nathaniel Parker

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_of_the_111th_United_States_Congress#Religious_demographics

Protestant 54.7%
Catholic 30.1%
Jewish 8.4%

I would surely like to do the same thing with all of the other names of companies that I see there, but sadly I don't have that much time.

Landon Taylor
Landon Taylor

( previous post)

There are a number of typical Zig Forums issues that are all right. Even all have a reason. I'm not saying something like National Socialist, I simply don't like the words yet.

Though I did simply use them before.

But a whole revolution isn't needed. For a greater part replacing problems with other problems, after having worked hard for it.

And away with this killing revolution leaves room for some other issues. That have far more value.

This will work far far better.

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

Now do the federal reserve

Isaiah Ortiz
Isaiah Ortiz

Morality is an emergent feature of evolution
Moral behaviour is behaviour which nature selects for.
Put plainly, the strategies for interacting with others in social settings which lead to iterative success over generations are moral.

It is moral to care for your family, to get married, to have children, to invest in the future.
It is moral to protect the borders of your nation, to only admit those who benefit your society and who are near enough in kin that the natural (and moral) tendencies of people to prefer their own do not generate conflict.
It is moral to ensure that the most productive members of your society are incentivized to invest effort and capital into generating positive value.
It is moral to direct public funding towards those less fortunate, recognizing that circumstance may prevent people from achieving their full genetic potential
It is moral to strive for a homogenous, high-trust society.
It is moral to look to your own.

JUST IN CASE I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT TO YOU BRAINLETS, THE CENTRAL ETHIC OF ANY NATIONALIST ETHOS IS JUST THAT: LOOK TO YOUR OWN

It is immoral to ignore your identity, to ignore your responsibility to your heritage.
It is immoral to replace hierarchies of competence and replace them with hierarchies of tyranny.
It is immoral to ignore differences between people if those differences manifest themselves as conflict.
It is immoral to disincentivize those more talented from expressing their talents.
Marxism is not moral.

How is it that I, just a random user on the internet hate machine has emerged as an unassailable titan of moral philosophy, solving the greatest outstanding questions on the most fundamental issues of this field over what has been a literal series of coffee breaks?

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Jackson Clark
Jackson Clark

Jewish anti-zionist

Purdy gud. Let's make more! Be fun to kill later when they've served their purpose.

Isaiah James
Isaiah James

(I don't think it's because of biology, more because it's a cultural significant but it doesn't matter, let's say that a racially homogeneous society is more likely to be a more cohesive society —even though I still think the primary contradiction of any modern society is between capitalists and workers, I do think that a racially homogeneous capitalist society like Japan is more stable and cohesive than, let's say, California with not only class tensions, but also racial tensions—)

This is just fucking obnoxious. Don't do that.

1.) You're going to quibble over semantics with me but don't. Enabling is to encouraging as restriction is to neutrality.

2.) Your entire post really shows the problem with your line of thought. Monomania. The main difference that I can see in how you guys come to your conclusions compared to us is that you extrapolate ills based on a preassigned group whereas we looked at problems and found similar culprits.

We hate traitors and want what's best for our people. You want some kind of abstraction based on abstraction. We want actual result based on actual problems.

Anthony Gray
Anthony Gray

1andone
PigGorePorn
Implyingraceisapretext
UntilDestroyYou
ThinksRaceIsOnlyAboutSkincolor

Leftist detected. Time for the gas.

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Cameron Edwards
Cameron Edwards

WHY ARE WE STILL DISCUSSING /leftypol/ TENDENCE TO TAKE IT UP THE ASS?

Eli Powell
Eli Powell

Just because someone has been traumatized by fire and now has a phobia, does not mean that you completely reprogram him to love fire.
Excellent. Well done breakdown, but this stands out especially.

Leftists love to pathologize what they are afraid to look at critically. As with many of their instincts, it's an intentional inversion of reality. Their xenophilia/fetishization of the exotic becomes our xeno/homo/transphobia. They reflexively lash out at any established principle/institution then blame us for doing that exact attack. I was a leftist. It took an honest appraisal of what I was doing and why to figure out the cynical self-interest that creates that mindset.

Underneath all the talk, it's just atavistic power-grabbing.

Kayden Wood
Kayden Wood

80-90% sure physiognomy is real. Curious to know what these people look like.
German economy was also rural and underdeveloped for most of the XIX century, even though they had important cultural achievements, mostly great thinkers, philosophers and mathematicians. Most of Europe was really backwards except maybe for France and England. This was literally the reason why America was flooded with poor europeans from shitty underdeveloped countries like Ireland (which, btw, is another example of a white country being a shit in economic terms until very recently, the 80's and 90's).
You think economy=greatness of a nation, centered around money like the jewish ideology you follow. It's like saying GDP is representative of anything important. Can a better economy give better health and education resources increasing general IQ through the Flynn effect? Sure, but even assuming the Flynn effect isn't riddle with issues to begin with you're still going to see aggregate differences with a country that goes through these economic "highs and lows" Take your examples. Germany despite being backwards in your own words gave great cultural achievements, Russia despite being an agrarian society for most of its history and going through the disaster of communism still manages to be a superpower gave us tons of great leaders, works of art, music, philosophy, and advances in science. Venezuela's contributions are nowhere even close. And even when propped up by oil the subhumans manage to screw that up, too

Brandon Campbell
Brandon Campbell

*you're still going to see aggregate differences between countries

Joshua Wright
Joshua Wright

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Xavier Nguyen
Xavier Nguyen

Liberals have an under-developed amygdala that prevents them from recognizing danger.

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Zachary Taylor
Zachary Taylor

The question remains, can we make them racist and use their brains to power the AI of /our/ waifus?

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Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

Day of the rope for furries when?

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Jordan Allen
Jordan Allen

History thrives on facts. Well written sir!

Evan Cox
Evan Cox

Russia despite being an agrarian society for most of its history and going through the disaster of communism still manages to be a superpower
It became a superpower because of communism, you absolute retard

Mason Edwards
Mason Edwards

Not according to every assessment of Russia since the 1700's by statesmen of every country that dealt with it.

The Germans were afraid of Russia since Germany became a country. The French saw it coming, Germans saw it coming, English saw it coming. It's not difficult. Even the Ottomans knew. Every one of them knew that because of the enormous size and population, it was only a matter of time. It's why the German Empire knew a war was eventually going to become inevitable.

Killing off the farmers and plundering the country into famine might've kickstarted a lot of development, but it sure didn't cause the superpower status.

Leo Davis
Leo Davis

heh

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Tyler Turner
Tyler Turner

Yeah, not because of the ton of resources and manpower it has.

Communism is what makes any country into a superpower.

Retard.

James Long
James Long

nazis are wrong because they attacked poland instead of fucking off and staying in what was divided for them after WW2
What the fuck. After WW2, nazis had no power anymore and did most certainly not attack poland.

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Owen Morris
Owen Morris

People with less than 100 IQ shouldn't be allowed to post in this board.

David Turner
David Turner

Ever. JIDL really has their best and brightest assigned to this modest Tibetan pottety board.

Isaac Lee
Isaac Lee

Kochs=jews, if not outright, than cryptos, just look at them, rabbi. WE, THE RISING, HAVE EYES.

William Carter
William Carter

It's their safe haven, while they attempt to infiltrate and subvert. It is a financial scam built on HallofCost "reparations", a training ground for kikery and a shithole to run to and regroup the next time they get exposed ( coming soon).

"While the Zionists try to make the rest of the World believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn't even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organisation for their international world swindler, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.
It is a sign of their rising confidence and sense of security that at a time when one section is still playing the German, French-man, or Englishman, the other with open effrontery comes out as the Jewish race."

Carson Stewart
Carson Stewart

Found this one particularly interesting.
They claim that they're focused on shared interests/outlooks, but I can also guarantee their entire circle of friends are white (with maybe the one token brown person).

The whole thread is a frustrating read tbh, given how "enlightened" and "well read" they claim to be, because in reality it all reads like a reddit thread, and reminds me of the handful of discussions I've had with my very emotional brother and his communist friends.
I sincerely doubt they're as well read as they claim to be (I've never met a genuinely well read leftist), and yet this is the justification for them holding their belief systems.
Do they even realize how full of shit they are? How is it to exist in a mindset like this? I expect that it's based in a very emotional framework, while claimed as being intellectual. And that's the thing that blows my mind with these guys, they value "intellectualism", they hold it as a standard of justification for their opinions, but when you really dig down into their thoughts, they all ultimately are based in emotions, in their feelings about how they want the world to be, about how they believe they should be.
The worst part is how often they reference fictional characters as examples of their ideal.

I genuinely try to understand where they're coming from, but maybe I'm too unemotional to ever understand their thought process…

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Carter Hernandez
Carter Hernandez

The main difference that I can see in how you guys come to your conclusions compared to us is that you extrapolate ills based on a preassigned group whereas we looked at problems and found similar culprits.
We hate traitors and want what's best for our people. You want some kind of abstraction based on abstraction. We want actual result based on actual problems.
Well stated. Why do you think they get stuck in that loop of abstractions?
Is there any validity to the T vs F psychologies in the MBTI meme?

Matthew Morris
Matthew Morris

after ww2
the "invasion of poland" was the beginning of WW2
you fucking retard.

Julian Walker
Julian Walker

I like how they hate imperialism so much in current year.

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Isaac Morgan
Isaac Morgan

These trannies are clearly confused about more than just their gender. They really think they won't be purged if a real communist revolution were to happen. They'd be the first to go.

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Ryan Lee
Ryan Lee

Well the Empire is finally entering its final stage of collapse, and all you nazis have nothing to offer but spiritualist shit that make even Evola sound informed. I mean soon America will start experiencing what capitalism is at the hands of the Chinese and all you larpers won't touch your guns because the slumlord has a higher IQ. But yeah, keep pretending Deutsche Bank and General Electric aren't already bankrupt and that there isn't a fuckhuge crash coming, it's all da joos, right
Such as a shame, I read Mein Kampf too and thought at least Hitler could have become a passable Wandervogel if those Social Democrats hadn't bullied him so much in Vienna.
So, remember guys, just blame socdems and you'll get reduced time in Gulag.

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Brayden Davis
Brayden Davis

(((TELL US YOUR PLANS GOY)))

Andrew Sullivan
Andrew Sullivan

Your boss will tell you your plans when the time comes and it will amount to nothing. You faggots haven't yet understood what the collapse of the Empire means for all your beloved ideals, I know you're imperialists here and it makes sense on a material analysis. But after the collapse those silly idealisms won't matter anymore and even Uncle Ted got caught, so at least join a union and even better start organizing on a non-manchild basis because you don't need any marxist analysis to tell you that shit's fucked.
And no, race doesn't matter, Europe has had the worst kinds of societal collapse invited upon it by the vagaries of capital, and very educated pure white people started doing the most horrible shit to one another, and the American Night of the Long Knives will be livestreamed here I suppose.

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Adam Ramirez
Adam Ramirez

Have you ever asked yourself why America has a great deal of european heritage?
Was it because of the jews as well?
This pathetic false equivalence is not doing you any favours.

Do you know the name Barbara Roche?
Peter Mandelson?
Jack Straw?
Emanuel Celler?
Jacob Javits?
Peter Sutherland?
Gregor Gysi?
Yuri Bezmenov?
Do you know what HIAS is?
Or IsraAID?
Do you know what 'cushi' means?
Have you ever seen this report?
un.org/press/en/2000/20000317.dev2234.doc.html
Or this article?
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4299673,00.html
Or this one?
bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43619833
Have you ever read 'Germany Must Perish!'?
Or 'You Gentiles'?
Or 'The Dearborn Independent'?
Or 'Mein Kampf'?
Do you dare to refute bilderberg2.jpg?
Or look into the individuals in the USSR responsible for the various ethnic genocides of the 30's?

All simply 'capitalist motives' and coincidences, right?

Stop wasting our time.

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Samuel Morgan
Samuel Morgan

Idk.. but if see that thing on July 6th.. I might break a pencil off in its neck

Nathaniel Ward
Nathaniel Ward

Apologies if this is pasta, but it deserves a (You).

Wyatt Lewis
Wyatt Lewis

I just sat through that entire useless, meandering treatise for some inconsequential speculation on the motives of people who wish to move to richer countries
You faggots sure are getting on my nerves today.
Some of us know who Naomi Klein is user. We also know that the desires of those outside of our lands do not make any real, immediate difference to us, save in cases of hot war. It is the policies enacted within our borders, and the individuals and groups behind them and the motives of these people.

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Oliver Lewis
Oliver Lewis

race is stupid
sex is stupid
gravity is stupid
reality is stupid
NO

Aaron Clark
Aaron Clark

Capped

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James Perez
James Perez

it's not the jews
They admit to it

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Parker Butler
Parker Butler

tl;dr
Mental illness, bad parenting and low IQ.

Josiah Thomas
Josiah Thomas

From our point of view, the thing is not on fire because "immigrants and jews".
Then your point of view is objectively wrong.

Brody Garcia
Brody Garcia

*Genetics -> Physiology -> Psychology -> Behavior -> #Culture

* our point of focus
# your point of focus

Owen Evans
Owen Evans

They have a different definition of imperialism. If you read Lenin's it's basically the export of capital from one capitalist state into another to sell cheap shit and make stuff at a lower cost by producing things in places like Mexico or Bangladesh

Jaxson Green
Jaxson Green

Do they even realize how full of shit they are? How is it to exist in a mindset like this? I expect that it's based in a very emotional framework, while claimed as being intellectual. And that's the thing that blows my mind with these guys, they value "intellectualism", they hold it as a standard of justification for their opinions, but when you really dig down into their thoughts, they all ultimately are based in emotions, in their feelings about how they want the world to be, about how they believe they should be.
A strange mix of narcissism and self hatred occurring simultaneously.

Chase Sullivan
Chase Sullivan

keep pretending Deutsche Bank and General Electric aren't already bankrupt and that there isn't a fuckhuge crash coming,
implying people here give the slightest damn about huge companies that have betrayed our people, or that half of us aren't impatiently tapping our toes and waiting for the collapse

Your sacred scriptures teach that you will inevitably win the final showdown, but I'm pretty sure your prophet was nothing but a ludicrously arrogant and shamelessly self-promoting Jewish cult leader. The system will collapse eventually, as all systems do. What happens next is up for grabs. Just because the 19th Century version of The Foundation says you'll win and create heaven on Earth doesn't make it so.

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Charles Richardson
Charles Richardson

TL;DR they're either
1 faggots
2 think they're smart because they got bamboozled by kiked Marxist psychobabble
3 are kikes

Jack Clark
Jack Clark

The worst part is how often they reference fictional characters as examples of their ideal.
That is a natural impulse, only the jew capitalists replaced their folk heroes and mythology with Hollywood and abstract Americanised false idols.
Their entire epistemological foundations are warped beyond hope user, you would sure be a wise one if you figured out how to fix that.

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Dylan Wood
Dylan Wood

I was permab& from /leftypol/
so is everyone who brings up any evidence that proves, actually, yes, it is the kikes and not the "capitalists". their mods are jews and trannies enforcing a jewy little echo chamber for other freaks.
TL;DR you stupid nigger, learn to make arguments less than three sentences or fuck off. you're not smart because you post textwalls.

Eli Carter
Eli Carter

listening to mental defectives explanation for their constant claims to victimhood
Kaczynski already explained it.

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Brody Garcia
Brody Garcia

Who the fuck are you talking to, cocksucker? Shekel-worshipers get a bullet too. Zig Forums is a National Socialist board.

Mason Turner
Mason Turner

muh wahhabi capitalism

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Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

Nazi retards got BTFO once already, your little druggie leader couldn't even handle a general strike and everyone laughs at you shitty bootlickers. You died for your boss once and now you're ready to do so again, but even classcuckoldry can't save your beloved past now. At least rightoids in the past listened to Stravinsky, now you're just burger drones.
Sad!
But there is a chance even for you, lose the manchild stuff and fight the good fight.

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Jayden Fisher
Jayden Fisher

It's just "intellectualism" which is essentially a way for average to slightly above average people to sound smart without saying anything. Materialist philosophies are garbage and the labor theory of value is completely retarded. Any empirical basis for existentialism is nonexistent.

However, if you is comfortable parroting a line and diving headfirst into annoying buzzwords, you can seem super smart to all your friends. All the concepts expressed by Marxism are intentionally obfuscated by communist newspeak so people can shrug off refutation by claiming others don't understand it because they don't use the same phrasing.

I've had a LOT of experience with these types of people over the years. I have heard every argument and have honestly tried to respect their viewpoints for the sake of honest discussion. I don't hate most of them but their unwillingness to even consider something outside of their rigid view is depressing.

People like Bakunin and Sorrel are pretty cool in their own way though.

Carter Martinez
Carter Martinez

Materialist philosophies are garbage
Amazing argument
the labor theory of value is completely retarded
I don't know what you've read on the subject but feel free to dispute any of these points.
paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2018/04/05/did-marx-have-a-labour-theory-of-value/
Any empirical basis for existentialism is nonexistent.
Why should that even matter for a materialist worldview? It's quite obvious you haven't even read Cioran, not to mention Sartre or Kierkegaard and no mention of any Marxist book. Read up on existentialism and communism if you're interested, and if you don't like Sartre read Vian.
I know Cioran did his own stuff but you nazis are supposed to like him, no?

The rest of your post is just astroturfing, it's obvious you've never met a gommie in your life, or you did and you're still butthurt. I used to have a grudging respect for righties and this thread is just sad. The Empire has no Centurions left lol. And the FBI are bronies, too.

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Easton Richardson
Easton Richardson

Europe has had the worst kinds of societal collapse invited upon it by the vagaries of capital, and very educated pure white people started doing the most horrible shit to one another, and the American Night of the Long Knives will be livestreamed here I suppose.
And yet sub-saharan Africa is any better? Europe has gone through some of the worst shit imaginable, and yet they've made plenty of world-changing scientific breakthroughs.

Jackson Russell
Jackson Russell

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Wyatt Torres
Wyatt Torres

communism is anti jewish
the bolsheviks were jews

Chase Kelly
Chase Kelly

13406468
paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2018/04/05/did-marx-have-a-labour-theory-of-value/

Typical leftist, never have an actual point and throw around books/papers/ to try and prove their eccentric world view.

Hunter Green
Hunter Green

Just look at that projection!

Sebastian Brown
Sebastian Brown

The only way this really ends is with the EXTREMLY PREJUDICED eradication of the other side. That means either line them up and well, you know. Or isolation and containment on a massive scale. PERIOD!

Jaxson Perez
Jaxson Perez

Yeah, and Rimbaud Himself was a flaming commie catamite, and most of these cultural achievements had the form of the underlying struggle imprinted upon them and you dumb burgers masturbate over the Disneyfied version sold to you by capitalist grifters while ignoring how many of the greatest works of art were done expressly to shit on your retard ideology.
And that great culture is getting destroyed by fucking capitalism, not some niggers.
Also Macron is going full police state in France and you bootlickers still think it's about da joos, and you got spooked as fuck because the GJs are comrades. So don't talk shit about Europe, read at least some introductory history and stop licking your bosses' dusty balls.

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Mason Torres
Mason Torres

You said the labour theory of value is just retarded.
If someone said Spengler was just a retard without offering any argument I'd applaud you throwing Der Untergang Des Abendlandes on his head.
And really I'm doing Ricardo a great insult comparing him to that fucking brainlet Spengler. You don't even have a worldview except an armed slave morality, almost like jihadis.

Cooper Diaz
Cooper Diaz

What else would you expect from the side that calls morality a spook?

Jaxon Thompson
Jaxon Thompson

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Easton Hughes
Easton Hughes

Amazing argument
Thanks, I judge things by their result. From Marx to Rand, jewish materialist philosophies have only lead to unhappiness at best. Willingly giving an essential value (your life) is absolutely retarded and has no way to account for the thousands of small aspects that determine the valuation of your unique life.

Good jumping off point to move into existentialism:

Saying that finding purpose within a fundamentally directionless life is incredibly "bourgeois". It assumes an alienation from natural processes that are inherent to life itself. Everyone in history has abided by this unknowingly, Christianity has this as dogma, and on Zig Forums it's considered just a fact. You seek to do what's best for you and yours. Make a better world. Sometimes, as our accelerationists point out, that can involve destruction. Everyone has that coded into their DNA and just ignoring that while you're trying to do the same thing (in a very misguided way), doesn't take away from that imperative. That's an essential aspect of all creatures. Existentialists are just people that either can't see the forest for the trees or are resentful of nature.

I don't know what you've read on the subject but feel free to dispute any of these points.
Ok. Cockshott's argument that pertains to my argument is all in the beginning of the article. I don't care about the contrast between Marx and Ricardo because it isn't relevant to the discussion.

Here's what he says:
Harvey claims that the labour theory of value is generally discredited. But in what sense?

It is correct to say that the theory is not viewed with favour in economics departments, but that is for political reasons – the labour theory of value came, since Gray and Marx, came to be associated with socialism. Since academic economists, in general, did not want to be tainted with the socialist label they were at pains to distance themselves from the theory. But none of them ever adduced any empirical evidence to refute it. It was socially discredited but not empirically refuted.

If one wants to refute a theory about the world you have to show that the theory makes incorrect empirical predictions.

So this is pretty easy overall. It's basically making the assertion that because the labor theory of value holds true when using two competing industries with access to the same general technologies and machinery, that it holds true everywhere else.

abstract labor and whatever
But that delves so far into impossible abstraction that it makes it entirely meaningless. The minutiae essentially creates an unprovable vortex which only leads to finger pointing saying
you can't prove it's untrue!

Firstly, irony. The implicit assertion is that a competitive marketplace with private ownership actually does show that the labor correlated to value in a semi accurate fashion. No kidding. That in no way shows the prescriptive value of the labor theory while undermining other Marxist arguments.

Secondly, if you take a small enough square peg it will indeed fit into a round hole. If someone takes longer to make something, does that make it more valuable? No. Labor can be a correlation to value in very specific circumstances. The point made by your ilk say it's a dogma. It doesn't dictate or even accurately predict the value of anything aside from established products in established industries.

This is hilarious because you've just accomplished almost every one of the points I made in the post you responded to.
read theory!
Trash. If you extrapolate on trash, it doesn't change the fact it's trash.

Cockshott literally cites himself as a source in his article.

Nathan Mitchell
Nathan Mitchell

Saying that finding purpose within a fundamentally directionless life is incredibly "bourgeois".
How?
It assumes an alienation from natural processes that are inherent to life itself.
Assuming it away must be one of the reasons the Right's mental gymnastics are getting ever so complicated. Your "natural processes" are exactly the kind of theological thinking you accuse your opponents of.
Everyone in history has abided by this unknowingly, Christianity has this as dogma, and on Zig Forums it's considered just a fact
I don't care about your fucking spooks my nigga, sorry but I agree with Zig Forums on that.

But that delves so far into impossible abstraction that it makes it entirely meaningless. The minutiae essentially creates an unprovable vortex which only leads to finger pointing saying

Look, it's not my fault you're scared of math. Fuck theory, I agree with that too. I'd recommend Anwar Shaikh and Piketty too, if you want some centrist overview of modern economics, but I suppose they da joos too.
And if you go over to leftypol they have threads on your issues so pop over and have a chat, they're nice guys, most of them are former nazees too and many shill for Stalin, so you'll be accepted I suppose.
Here are some interesting books to spend your time. But really read Cockshott, I'm arguing in good faith and I expect actual arguments.

accelerationists
Land remains a commie and you should try reading him, he gives a gentle introduction to theory and can help you approach it without prejudice, like I said I agree that too much theory can be bad for you.

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Dylan Campbell
Dylan Campbell

Implying anyone would unironically defend the current state of the U.S
Importing millions of blacks or other nonwhites wasn't exactly what we'd want, either.

Nathaniel Hill
Nathaniel Hill

Sad, no?

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Robert Lewis
Robert Lewis

That's also what we're against - warhawking and supporting the establishment. Also capitalism, because it's smoothbrain shit too.

Justin Barnes
Justin Barnes

Ever wondered why grifting and backstabbing is even more endemic in the right? Maybe there's a structural reason? I'm not letting the left off at all, just saying that Nazis had always been attack dogs of Capital, and your silly everexpanding fractal of backstabbing proves that. So get rid of those spooks and join the antiimperialist side. Here, a former comrade of yours explains it better.

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Parker Powell
Parker Powell

That picture.
More like "expect mental illness".

Aiden Perez
Aiden Perez

I doubt that they're the attack dogs of capital since they still wanted to have a functioning heavy industry, and i'll also admit I haven't read that article before, though the rest of the world - including America, capitalism's star - coming in against them does plant some doubt in my mind.

Having the people help each other instead of telling the rich to give to the poor is enticing, which is what they say and I largely agree with. I've always been "third positionist", or just national socialist. Funny about backstabbing - we've also criticized multiple leftist factions for hating eachother as well - socdems against tankies against trotskyists against maoists against so on and so forth.

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Samuel Bell
Samuel Bell

they are either loosers
not loossers yet, but lazy
or acctually successful and just delusional, with a projection of their own mind in other people.

David Cook
David Cook

I doubt that they're the attack dogs of capital since they still wanted German capital to have
a functioning heavy industry
Riddled with inefficiencies in large part due to rampant nepotism (inherent to the profit motive) and silly social darwinist inter-service struggle. Same thing that made the Bradley and F-35 such shitshows. And if you don't trust the book I've linked I'll just say my first plastic model was a Me 210 so I know the RLM was full of shit, because it was just a scam at the very top. And the capitalists behind it still sell weapons to Israel and anyone who's bying.
though the rest of the world - including America, capitalism's star - coming in against them does plant some doubt in my mind.
Some time you have to put a rabid dog down, and there's no honour among thieves. Still, the MKULTRA and rocket guys were welcomed, so maybe a STEM degree is a good choice.

Having the people help each other instead of telling the rich to give to the poor is enticing, which is what they say and I largely agree with. I've always been "third positionist", or just national socialist
Nazism was a psyop against the German working class. You're using pareidolia to project a worldview out of those shitty pamphlets and nazis always doing the cop's job for him every single time they gain power(e.g. Golden Dawn), they're literally Pinkertons with a racist paintjob and you fell for that, but no worries.

On your last point, there's a ton of shit on the left too, but I hope most sectarianism is just larping, and yeah at least the shitposting is more quality-based. I've been banned lots from illiterate chicoms but who gives a shit.
Finally read or watch Mishima's play on Strasser, My Friend Hitler, and see how it resonates with current events.

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Christopher Campbell
Christopher Campbell

IP hopped.

I'm done engaging with you in good faith. All you're offering is pathetic snark. None of what you said actually refutes anything in the post directly above yours. I'm not going to read through 600 pages of tripe that just refuses to actually engage on core issues. Extrapolation based on a bad thesis is bad. It's not my fault you can't even consider a different worldview and need everything to be contextualized by some dead kike.

I get the same exact lack of content and intellectual rigor on your shithole board. You've just outsourced justification and critical thought so you can fit in with a gaggle of degenerates.

Difference between here and there is that you people need to fit everything into a poorly made ideological container whereas here we've looked at ills and keep finding the same cause.

How?
Because it assumes one is already so disconnected from nature that he can't even see how everything in nature compels us to see an obvious purpose. If you weren't such a naval-gazing backpatter, you'd know that.
Assuming it away must be one of the reasons the Right's mental gymnastics are getting ever so complicated. Your "natural processes" are exactly the kind of theological thinking you accuse your opponents of.
It's literally coded in our DNA. Theology might reinforce what's there already, but that's what one would call "essential".

I don't care about your fucking spooks my nigga, sorry but I agree with Zig Forums on that.
So you're disputing your previous statement?

But really read Cockshott
I read the article, maybe you should too. It doesn't support your point at all.

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Daniel Diaz
Daniel Diaz

Because it assumes one is already so disconnected from nature that he can't even see how everything in nature compels us to see an obvious purpose
Fucking and making babies? Please engage with the relevant literature and start making content-based arguments.

It's literally coded in our DNA. Theology might reinforce what's there already, but that's what one would call "essential".
Religion enforces what's best for the ruling classes, always has, always will. Treating it as something independent is ahistorical, as is pretending the current arrangement of society is natural, whatever that means.
In what way is private property, for example, any more essential than slavery? Why is the second progressively antiquated as an economic system? Maybe human nature doesn't exist and what you name so is the expression of material conditions?
You haven't offered any sort of cogent argument to back your absurd dismissal of the LTV except screeching that abstract value doesn't exist while ignoring the planning going on right now in private companies. Still, best wishes back in America. The coming crash will make you see reason, I hope.
naval-gazing
I prefer tanks but thanks

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Nicholas Brown
Nicholas Brown

Hitler should've removed all the old conservative warhawks and the such, considering the state of the german industry as it was anyway. I'm not particularly strong on that case, but i'd wager they'd be able to release a better Panzer that would warrant the praise. I don't disagree nor distrust the book though, so i'll take your word for it.

Some time you have to put a rabid dog down, and there's no honour among thieves. Still, the MKULTRA and rocket guys were welcomed, so maybe a STEM degree is a good choice.
I meant that they don't seem all that capitalist, or attack dogs of capital when big capital has been against them, especially in the case of Lend Lease.

I'm not as well versed as everyone else who can argue worth a damn nor can I readily recall the sources of everything i've read thus far, so I'm probably making a bad case for myself. Still, the whole people-focused socialism where everyone helps everyone, private property existing and whatnot can exist, even if Germany wasn't particularly a good example, right?

Hold on, now. I haven't got to your arguments - though i've already shit myself down earlier - but i've also seen/recieved some snark as well from the left. Don't think I argue in bad faith so much as wanting to learn to pay attention to more.

Asher Gonzalez
Asher Gonzalez

shit myself down earlier
*shot myself down earlier, unless if you're the same person
RIP

Kevin Davis
Kevin Davis

Still, the whole people-focused socialism where everyone helps everyone, private property existing and whatnot can exist, even if Germany wasn't particularly a good example, right?

Not really. The insistence on private property reveals Nazism as a shitty misdirection of socialist sentiment among the populace to service capital.
The war confirms it, the scam is over, stop falling for the psyop. The USSR was outproducing Germany and the Lend Lease help was minimal in conparison, so there's the economy sorted.

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Joseph Scott
Joseph Scott

rightists
Even your insults are so hopelessly homosexual that they roll off the tongue wrong. "rightists" really is unnatural to pronounce.

Ryan Sanchez
Ryan Sanchez

Lend Lease help was minimal in comparison
Daily reminder that Communists had to beg for help from big daddy Capitalism to save them only to get stabbed in the back and VOTE themselves out of existence by their own leaders.

Meanwhile the only surviving Communist nations act as slave labor factories for Capitalist nations and have sold the health of their people for a ruling elite that lives like kings.

But it was the Nazis who serviced capital
Fucking LOL!

Joseph Baker
Joseph Baker

By private property, I meant like personal property, owning things for oneself. National socialism like the screenshot says, I mean.

someone else also acknowledges how wrong the term 'rightists' is
thank you.

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Eli Baker
Eli Baker

1. Even the socdems (disgusting worms btw, like semiliterate nazis, maybe worse) are more capable than your burger dystopia
2. Of course the nazis fought for capital, they're getting BTFO in Donbass right now and they're carrying EU flags

Here' your (you)

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Dylan Ortiz
Dylan Ortiz

kek, not real communism but "state capitalism".

Gavin Watson
Gavin Watson

Socialism doesn't care about personal property, classes can't coexist in peace and a nation is a recent invention with no practical meaning. American capitalists were striking deals with German capitalists before the Ardennes corpses were buried. The Opel factories were left untouched by the 8th airforce and IG Farben executives picked the site of Auschwitz. You're falling for Clinton with a völkisch makeover.
All the rest is just lies down the nazi rabbithole, same shit some commie revisionists say. And don't fall for the MEFO bills stunt either, it's just robbery in another way
marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1913/accumulation-capital/ch32.htm

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Brayden Foster
Brayden Foster

muh personal property/private property dichotomy
Who makes that distinction numbnuts?

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Nicholas Garcia
Nicholas Garcia

Of course the nazis fought for capital, they're getting BTFO in Donbass right now and they're carrying EU flags
inb4 not real nazis, but it's shady that they're owned by a jew

And also brought up a point as well - with Stalin having feasts yet with nothing for the peasants to eat, socialism sorta sounds like trading one boss for another.

I always did question why certain German businesses still survived the war like Bayer, IBM and such. What about owning land, a house, etc. - does Socialism forbid that?

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

The post-war betrayal of the NSDAP captains of industry and their subsequent success in Weimerica is proof of the treachery of the Capitalist class and their inherent philosemitism.

That being said, the genocidal open-borders anti-Nation, anti-White intentions of /leftypol/ types and their Liberal associates is proof that the Red way isn't the right way. Perhaps the Strasser brothers were right. But the problem with historical instances of Socialism is that until computing technology had developed to the point where it could accurately plan an economy and direct the mode of production correctly, they were stuck with jewish Bolshevik child-raping (((bureaucrats)))

David Flores
David Flores

inb4 not real nazis, but it's shady that they're owned by a jew
Hitler was a V-Mann for the Reichswehr, literal glownigger. Nazism had always been a grift.

Apply yourselves

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Chase Gomez
Chase Gomez

Well, what of the post above yours and these? Hitler tried being nice to capital in hopes that it would help his people, but in the end capital has stabbed them in the back.

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Anthony Cruz
Anthony Cruz

meant for

Aiden Nguyen
Aiden Nguyen

second picture

In USSR, you had kikes monopolize every piece of property under the communist party, which they themselves ran, while the common peasant was left to eat shit with no property, as they were before USSR. Except now, blood thirsty kikes ruled over them. Prove me wrong.

classes can't coexist in peace

Yet there has never been a society with no "classes" as you call it. Every society has it's rulers and subject, rich and the poor, losers and winners.

nation is a recent invention with no practical meaning

nation:a large group of people of the same race who share the same language, traditions, and history, but who might not all live in one area

This concept has nothing new about it, arguably it predates humanity itself. It's way more meaningful than the proletarian/bourgeoisie distinction. The people of your nation are your fathers, mothers, brothers,sisters, friends. People like you, people you can relate to. People that are you.

And remember, the jews that peddle this faggot-ideology care more about nothing else than their own people or nation as we might call it.:

Kevin Fisher
Kevin Fisher

That being said, the genocidal open-borders anti-Nation, anti-White intentions of /leftypol/ types and their Liberal associates
idpol is cointelpro, communists fucking hate liberals and nazis are nato-funded, you're sucking from the same Soros teat as the libs.

Most people misunderstand Tito but he was a great guy, and his government took war orphans in because their parents fought for the working class, so here's your drivel sorted.

Holy bullshit I've already read Mein Kampf and I'm not going to go through your burger bullshit. You can't be nice to capital and call yourself a socialist. Hitler's people were the Krupps and Porsches of this world, not the Germans.

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Gabriel Sullivan
Gabriel Sullivan

prove me wrong
You're repeating Alphabet soup propaganda, no arguments. Read some history first.

Hudson Turner
Hudson Turner

(17) posts of leftypol brain-damage
Answer the fucking question: who makes the distinction between personal and private property?
idpol is cointelpro
people with a sense of culture, tradition, race that transcends class are all government agents
communists fucking hate liberals
You hate private property, so you hate classical liberalism. But you believe in equality just as rigidly as a progressive liberal and you're as obsessed with Marx, and both of you are equally accepted from a top-down perspective because capitalists love cheap labor and you force yourself to deny the importance of ethnicity. Capitalists and communist have more in common than white nationalists do.

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Jayden Ward
Jayden Ward

Alphabet soup propaganda
Not a counter-argument, just denial.

Thomas Gomez
Thomas Gomez

burger bullshit
It ain't "companies dindu nuffin - the paragraph".

Liam Price
Liam Price

Alphabet soup propaganda
Implying CIA niggers would want to sleight jews by pointing out jewish influence in the USSR
Implying the actual workers had any control over the "means of production" in the USSR
Implying USSR didn't have gulags (with slave labor, of course), Holodomor, purges in order to advance the predominately jewish upper class

Where's the lie?

Camden Wilson
Camden Wilson

There is no point in arguing against someone who will never argue in good faith.
Even if they win on the battlefield they will all be killed off like the useful idiots they are.

Adrian Lee
Adrian Lee

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

In the United States of America there is no aristocracy, and the bourgeoisie and the proletariat enjoy equal political rights. But they are not equal in class status: one class, the capitalists, own the means of production and live on the unpaid labour of the workers. The other class, the wage-workers, the proletariat, own no means of production and live by selling their labour-power in the market.

The abolition of classes means placing all citizens on an equal footing with regard to the means of production belonging to society as a whole. It means giving all citizens equal opportunities of working on the publicly-owned means of production, on the publicly-owned land, at the publicly-owned factories, and so forth.

In brief, when socialists speak of equality they always mean social equality, equality of social status, and not by any means the physical and mental equality of individuals.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm
From the moment when labour can no longer be converted into capital, money, or rent, into a social power capable of being monopolised, i.e., from the moment when individual property can no longer be transformed into bourgeois property, into capital, from that moment, you say, individuality vanishes.

Are you able to control the relations of production out of a suburban house? You really think that's what the communists fucking care about?
Even Dengist China BTFOs your precious America on that issue, and in the USSR housing was provided to all.
Stop defending your boss with dishonest arguments and start reading.

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Luis Baker
Luis Baker

Tito
Well, thank you for indirectly answering the question i've been trying to ask in there being a form of socialism that is nationalist and does shit for its people and not businesses.

Owen Cox
Owen Cox

I've spoken to partisans when they were 80 and they would skin you alive if you mentioned that nazi shit, so here's a heads up. Most of them are dead by now anyway, but welcome aboard, comrade!
There were problems, too e.g.
transform-network.net/es/publications/anuario/overview/article/journal-092011/workers-self-management-in-yugoslavia-an-ambivalent-experience/

But start educating yourself and don't fall for the psyops.

Justin Thomas
Justin Thomas

can't even respond with his own arguments just copypastas them from marxists.org
It's not even denying what I'm saying. You worship equality, diminish the value of ethnicity, and see in terms of class so you have more in common with progressive liberals than white nationalists. They like cheap labor and you make their arguments for them: you're not a stupid racist nazi, are you? Communists are the puppets of capitalists, and whenever they take control they effectively ruin the economy. Now answer the question directly you coward, who makes the distinction between personal and private property?
relations of production
Take your jargon and shove it up your communist ass.
dishonest arguments
Look whose talking. lol
start reading
Reading garbage is arguably worse than being illiterate.

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Jose Diaz
Jose Diaz

Partisans of Yugoslavia, correct? I mean, that was always my ideological standing - socially right, economically left and all. I'm for national socialism because I felt it supported the german people by uniting all social classes, not the Krupps and Porsches.

Blake Walker
Blake Walker

It's so tempting though.

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Nolan Carter
Nolan Carter

Albanians and Greeks too, and all sorts of minorities, he meant the internationalism part. What you define as socially right is meaningless and served up by bourgeois media, those old peoples' two rules were better.
don't be a snitch
don't be a faggot
So I guess Titoism is your thing, good choice. The tankies can get bitter over 1948 but Balkan Socialist Federation is the best way forward, and markets were a necessary compromise, I fear.
Does your property generate capital without you working it? Private property, Lenin hated fucking slackers.

Tyler Perry
Tyler Perry

Does your property generate capital without you working it?
Why would that be relevant to anyone other than me? The American answer is "none of your goddamn business".
Lenin hated fucking slackers.
His entire life was spent exploiting stupid people out of their money.

Nolan Bell
Nolan Bell

Isn't Titoism isnt limited to the Yugoslavian people? Does your definition of capital also include lemonade-stand businesses, mom and pop stores, military companies, companies that process resources and the such?

Adam Wilson
Adam Wilson

What you define as socially right is meaningless and served up by bourgeois media
Not supporting globohomo neoliberal bullshit and serving the people's well being is what I mean by socially right.

Adam Cook
Adam Cook

Yes, but the pilpul never ends.

Benjamin Robinson
Benjamin Robinson

Well America is bankrupt so we don't give a shit about their retard ideology anyway.
Isn't Titoism isnt limited to the Yugoslavian people
Well he helped the Greek communists too, that was one of the reasons for the USSR-Yugo split and it's a rather long and bitter story. Names and personalities are irrelevant in the long term anyway.

lemonade-stand businesses, mom and pop stores
There were exceptions made for small turnovers or employee headcount, but most enterprises were worker-managed anyway
military companies, companies that process resources and the such?
Of course. Khruschev tried passing more freedom to regional industrial boards and they became oligarch incubators, it's one of the most persistent criticisms people have on him.

But all those varied widely inside the Eastern Bloc, and Hungary and DDR were very different economies than, say, Cuba or Mongolia. It's a case by case basis but the ultimate goal is that the workers dispose of the need for an absentee landlord, there's a reason the IWW was so popular back in the day.

Jaxson Long
Jaxson Long

markets were a necessary compromise
At the time, yes. But with the advancement of computing technology, it's been in our reach to plan economies with precise labor values for decades.
But, you fail to understand that a mere patriotism is enough to preserve the heritage of a people. It is not. Borders must be closed, native cultures must be protected, and foreign genetic influences must be excised. Anything short of that is genocide.
none of your business
It is if Moishe's monopolized the water supply and won't sell any without poison mixed in. How can you look at shit like the Clintons or the Bushes and think there's no government intervention necessary? I believe /liberty/ is the board for you.

Jaxon Cook
Jaxon Cook

btw this is where Lenin lived at, such a based men of the people but I am sure he shared his kitchen with five families like trannypol idiots would.

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Jose Sanders
Jose Sanders

central planning
Wasting time doing bullshit instead of just let the national market solving it.

Aiden Lopez
Aiden Lopez

Borders must be closed
Of course, jammers must also purge the skies from "globohomo" radiowaves
native cultures must be protected,
Socialism did that a lot better than neoliberalism
foreign genetic influences must be excised.
That's what your grifters say, unspook yourself.
One side needs cheap labour and the other side needs to suppress communists and you're eating out of neoliberalism's ass without threatening Capital one bit

Parker Long
Parker Long

efficiency without need for (((Money))) is bullshit
Okay. Market Socialism is baste. How's the housing prices?

Wyatt Morgan
Wyatt Morgan

Îts not (((the market))), its the people.
The farmers, workers, clerks on site know best what is to do, central planning is complete nonsense and only losers who cant do anything shill it.

Juan Nguyen
Juan Nguyen

How can Cortez , the proletariat, or the bourgeois even compete with such luxury and decadence? Lenin sure knew how to lead useful idiots.

James White
James White

The housing prices would be controlled and regulated by the state.
The people trade in the market.
unspook
Unspook yourself first.

Spook is an idiotic concept.

Angel Brooks
Angel Brooks

Unless spooks mean niggers of course.

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez

So you'd let Jamal the machete-wielding nigger and his 15 niglets stay because Capitalist grifters use Nationalist rhetoric to cloak their philosemitism?

Kayden Nguyen
Kayden Nguyen

m8, for the commies, one nigger and his 15 niglets are 16 future scientists contributing to society.

Tyler Gray
Tyler Gray

Based, I am sure there are no consequences when you artifically overcrowd places because it makes good numbers for your patron. What could go wrong?

people trade in the market
Yes, but using the term market obscures what this is really about, independence and self determination.

Luis Mitchell
Luis Mitchell

Based, I am sure there are no consequences when you artifically overcrowd places because it makes good numbers for your patron. What could go wrong?
Yeah, we would regulate which place people should stay instead of grouping them into giant city hive.
Yes, but using the term market obscures what this is really about, independence and self determination.
Market has existed as long as civilization.

Xavier Richardson
Xavier Richardson

Brush up on Haskell and start the next five year plans from a laptop, comrades.

My neighbor is a nigger but I don't give a shit, my man. At least he isn't American. Base your worldview on something with actual impact on your life.

Thomas Parker
Thomas Parker

Are you sure you want to post on this board? /liberty/ seems to be where you'd want to be.

Christian Martinez
Christian Martinez

My neighbor is a nigger but I don't give a shit, my man. At least he isn't American. Base your worldview on something with actual impact on your life.
The fact you don't give a shit about racial purity is why we don't give a shit about you.

Brandon Watson
Brandon Watson

get out of here /leftypol/

Joshua Sanchez
Joshua Sanchez

Don't know why Yugos helping the Greeks would make Soviets hate them. Don't think there's a German equivalent for Titoism in any way, and a nice czech shitposter familiarized me with Khruschev as well as his affinity for corn.

Still, is this screencap accurate at all of communism?

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Dominic Davis
Dominic Davis

low effort shilling, strasserists get the rope

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Lucas Wilson
Lucas Wilson

I think the worst enemies of commies are themselves.

Just D&C them and they will kill each other.

Or worse, give them a bad leader, then said bad leader will divide into factions among themselves and kill the whole gang.

Jaxson Sanders
Jaxson Sanders

Yeah, we would regulate which place people should stay instead of grouping them into giant city hive.

Thats what the communists tried. In China they called it a cultural revolution. Hundreds of millions died.

Aaron Carter
Aaron Carter

their faggotry is impossible for me to read
<Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories. -Sun Tzu
Some of them are NPCs for sure and just along for the ride, but similar to Zig Forums there are higher IQ folks who have actually read a lot of theory and history and just arrived at a different conclusion than you. Is it not worth exploring how an intelligent person becomes ensnared in an ideology that defeats their own race? Defeats their own culture? Think of it as epidemiology of the brain. You don't fight virii by calling them stupid, you find out what they feed on and give them poison or starve them.

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Matthew Hill
Matthew Hill

How can you define foreign genetic influence in the Balkans and why does it matter on the running of the economy and so on.
Racial science is Peterson from 100 years ago, get real and start reading.

John Martin
John Martin

machete-wielding niggers raping and killing my people have no impact on my life
You're cucked on Race (But coming from a decent place - the Balkan conflicts were among the worst examples of brother wars fought between Whites and they were born of National identititarianism)

But, you might have me convinced on the Market Socialism idea because it is decentralized.

Jeremiah Wood
Jeremiah Wood

How can you define foreign genetic influence in the Balkans and why does it matter on the running of the economy and so on.
Yeah, I can see the genetic difference between a white man and a nigger. And a white man doesn't like being with a nigger.
Racial science is Peterson from 100 years ago, get real and start reading.
There's nothing more real than racial science.

Fiat-tier economy is literally fake shit when you can fucking print money.

Anthony James
Anthony James

here, take this

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Isaac Williams
Isaac Williams

I thought the Cultural revolution/great leap forward are Mao sperging about dumb bullshit like sparrows?

For all that shit, he sure turns the majority of chinks into hive dwellers.

Jayden Watson
Jayden Watson

Brainlet post. The Strasser brothers were wrong because they were fraternizing with the enemy - not because their core ideological goal was wrong.

Angel Garcia
Angel Garcia

Strassers were literally wanting to end private properties in Germany.

Hitler certainly isn't going to allow that retard shit to happen.

Noah Morales
Noah Morales

I already know they are a bunch of lost losers with no meaning in their life, who hate the world for "failing" them and who see all that humans do as bad and humans themselves are bad because they are not involved in any kind of meaningful human interaction, so its better when the whole humanity just slaves away for the better of the world.

Nathaniel Roberts
Nathaniel Roberts

Don't they already do this to themselves?

Connor Bell
Connor Bell

Humanity is destined for greatness, space colonization and bringing civilization out of Earth.

The fact to this day we still spend times fighting jews and niggers mean a lot of times have been wasted.

Kevin Bell
Kevin Bell

Yes, certainly.

But we sure can help in the process.

Anarchist vs marxist
Social democrats vs stalinists
Gay luxurious communist vs stalinist.

Levi Brown
Levi Brown

And yet Hitler was stabbed in the back by the very same jew-loving Capitalists whose property he fought to protect. No, the philosemitic Capitalists have proven they are treacherous rabid dogs that must be put down.

Parker Thompson
Parker Thompson

USSR foreign policy, Brit meddling in Greece because it had the biggest merchant marine in the world and Crete saved Israel in '73, among other reasons.
Maybe he was just a Greeceboo, upper class Brits wank over Athens and Sparta too much.
Stalin was misinformed and unwittingly or not betrayed the people's war there, and the US used napalm for the first time. This triggers the tankies but whatever.
But mostly material reasons and the USSR's isolation and the coming Cold War forced shitty gambits which didn't pan out.

Your post is the equivalent of a Guardian or Die Welt article over Russiagate. There are sources widely available, you can pop over on leftypol but I have to leave now.

Solidarische Grüße

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Adrian Rogers
Adrian Rogers

There was lots of other stuff related to Mao's severe autism. That had all been exacerbated by Russia refusing to help China in the Vietnam war a few years prior.

But they also forced 18 million young people to the countryside.
These were kids that had been brought up in cities and obviously couldnt survive when dropped in a plot of barely fertile land with no tools or farming skills. Millions died and by 1971 most of the survivors had moved back to the city.

On December 22, 1968, Chairman Mao directed the People's Daily to publish a piece entitled "We too have two hands, let us not laze about in the city", which quoted Mao as saying "The intellectual youth must go to the country, and will be educated from living in rural poverty." In 1969, many youth were rusticated.[5] High school students were organized and assigned to the countryside on a national level.

Nicholas Green
Nicholas Green

I don't remember big companies betrayed Hitler. Mauser and Rheinmetal still make guns and tanks for the Fuhrer till the final days of the war.

Hitler's betrayers were some of his generals.

Luis Flores
Luis Flores

But they also forced 18 million young people to the countryside.
These were kids that had been brought up in cities and obviously couldnt survive when dropped in a plot of barely fertile land with no tools or farming skills. Millions died and by 1971 most of the survivors had moved back to the city.
That sounds retarded.

My urbanization plan would involve selling cheap land in the outskirt along with moving industrial centers far away from the city in order to spread the population. Where jobs go, people follow. Also infrastructure such as highway in order to maximize connection between urban and countryside.

It wouldn't be literally force kids to live in the countryside.

Adam Walker
Adam Walker

The 90s were a terror my man, the Americans dropped Uranium and Willy Pete and I still see nightmares of just the TV footage, I don't give a shit about black or white and even after that I think the American proletariat as suffering brothers, fighting in the belly of the beast.
Have luck and be sure to post over on leftypol, cheers.
I meant your screencap is a Die Welt article, no bully intended.

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Ayden Hall
Ayden Hall

The importance of infrastructure cannot be stretched.

Waterway, highway, train need to be used as maximum efficiency.

Reduce air travel in order to avoid clogging city.

Easton Stewart
Easton Stewart

Yeah they kept helping Hitler when the war was still going, but guess what happened after? They struck deals with the Allies that raped their women and bombed their cities. Now Jose the obese goblino can crack open a cold Fanta in a Californian McDonald's.

Ryan Gomez
Ryan Gomez

I hear, and i'll be sure to read on the other perspective - though I don't think i'll change much from where I already am, politically speaking. Perhaps i'll learn more on the economic side, but I don't think that Mauser nor Rheinmetall ever treater Hitler nor the german folk badly.

Jeremiah Moore
Jeremiah Moore

Plenty of national socialist generals become Bundeswehr colonels afterwards, same for some generals in the DDR.

What do you want the germans to do? Sudoku because they failed the Fuhrer?

Living is winning.

Alexander Baker
Alexander Baker

Yes, they rebuilt Germany and didnt let it turn into some DDR shithole, what a bunch of disgusting traitors.
Kill yourself you leftypol faggot, go play subverter somewhere else.

Ayden Martinez
Ayden Martinez

Cheers. Listen to that as soundtrack.
youtu.be/oFLPMZqXk0k

Jayden Diaz
Jayden Diaz

Also, mauser and rheinmetal were actually scrapped for years, and only allowed to work again because of their work quality.

You think the jews are gonna trust the german war industry right off the bats?

Carson Myers
Carson Myers

I've heard that before, actually.

Isaiah Murphy
Isaiah Murphy

Yeah they rebuilt Germany - Weimar Germany. Bringing up DDR bullshit is Soviet-style Whataboutism.

And fuck those anti-White /leftypol/ niggers. I'd hang most of them myself, except for ex-Yugo guy. He's cool.

Zachary Hughes
Zachary Hughes

My urbanization plan would involve selling cheap land in the outskirt along with moving industrial centers far away from the city in order to spread the population.

Selling land? That sounds very capitalistic.
All land belongs to the governmen… ahem… I mean the people own the land. Just because they dont have any of the usual rights or advantages that come with ownership doesnt mean its all a trick to placate morons.

Owen Flores
Owen Flores

On to Oktoberklub it is, then.

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Christian Wood
Christian Wood

Hell yeah, why not?

National socialism allows private property, just that jews and undesirables don't get to own them.

Justin Parker
Justin Parker

Wer?

David Foster
David Foster

Discrete but potentially deep nugget of insight here.

Which communism, Stalin's? Just like Napoleon's "revolutionary" France? Not perfect, but I would fare better there than effete subversives, so that's something.

Connor Morales
Connor Morales

some of these names are straight up fabricated, only to be traced back to schizo "juice crime" blogs and shit. like who the fuck is Parvus Gelphanat? or Gottsieg Prapkine? you can't even find evidence of most of these people even existing.

Benjamin Taylor
Benjamin Taylor

youtu.be/llMSqX_m5oI

Nathan Hernandez
Nathan Hernandez

Napoleon imperial France was fucking based and did a lot of things right like the metric system and war mobilization.

Too bad he went to war with Russia.

Jaxson Hughes
Jaxson Hughes

This is why socialism/communism have such high death tolls—because the overgrown children who inherit the revolution cannot conceive of any other way to deal with opposition, than to simply wipe it out.

Aiden Taylor
Aiden Taylor

Yeah, this is the standard answer to Robert Wilton's Les derniers jours des Romanovs.

I wish someone took a poke at it, see how much is true. Here might be a start: reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/bg7id1/request_judeobolshevism_soviet_jewish/

Benjamin Powell
Benjamin Powell

They rebuild the infrastructure of Germany and make it rich.

It's the jews occupation that make it bad.

Bringing up DDR bullshit is Soviet-style Whataboutism.
Truth is DDR was a lot tougher but it also makes the people more racialist instead of non-stop propaganda like in the West.

Still doesn't make Rheinmetal or Mauser (now H&K) bad.

Jace Robinson
Jace Robinson

Mauser (now H&K)
Mauser is now Heckler und Koch

Xavier Wood
Xavier Wood

Mauser is dead after the war, but heckler und koch buy a lot of Mauser patents and try to follow up their design post-war.

Landon Price
Landon Price

Why would I want to understand my enemy?
Because you want to win against your enemy rather than win against your dream enemy.

Carson Myers
Carson Myers

use my diseased asshole and mouth as a fleshlight

I'll never understand the gays

Jaxson Young
Jaxson Young

higher IQ folks who have actually read a lot of (((theory))) and (((history))) and just arrived at a (((different conclusion))) than you

FTFY. Unless you confront the JQ and see that the (((consensus))) was just a social construct but traditional mores lasted for thousands of years, you're doomed to be stuck in Plato's cave.

Matthew Hernandez
Matthew Hernandez

Communism will never work in a post-agrarian society, at least how Mao took the countryside first before the city. These days, the city will just send out the National Guard to deal with miscreants.

Also, they're bugmen, and China has a history of local warlordship, so they just adopted the communist label like how everything was covered in "space-age plastic" back in the 60's. Prastic? You like prastic, round eye? Good price!

Leo Mitchell
Leo Mitchell

Exactly. You can even compare the development of separate scientific communities and their consensuses. Flickers in the wind, only the Jewish opinion and desire remain.

Brody Lee
Brody Lee

This is what neo-cohen Trotskyists think of Stalin:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerated_workers'_state

Angel Clark
Angel Clark

Then you do what Trump does: expect the dotchclass and plan ahead to make sure it won't be an issue.

The economy should have (((crashed))) twice by now. Someone fixed the market and somehow survived the knives.

Noah Bennett
Noah Bennett

They also made them melt down all their tools into worthless pig iron to fight round-eye.

See the "no, 201 INTERNATIONAL standard steeel" never-deal-with-lying-chinks caps floating around.

Christian Cook
Christian Cook

Economy is fake when you can literally print money and force its value by monopolizing resources.

Noah Long
Noah Long

A flash-cut to a non-FED currency would cause another Holomodor, and mostly because (((people))) wouldn't play along.

Sebastian Scott
Sebastian Scott

That makes sense.

Samuel Reyes
Samuel Reyes

If you seize the federal reverse printing machines, and nationalize them. Congrats, you just fix the trillions of debts of the US.

It's THAT simple.

Fiat money is fake.

Noah Nguyen
Noah Nguyen

Also, default the debts from China.

Just do it.

What's China gonna do? Boycott the US? Bitch please.

The single problem with ANY country is that the government doesn't want to solve problems, they want to promote NWO.

Luis Smith
Luis Smith

B-b-b-but it wasn't REAL communism! If you just put me and my discord tranny circlejerk into power as absolute dictators, I'm sure we could make it work this time!

Alexander Turner
Alexander Turner

Nation comes from natio which means be born. Its old as fuck. It's original use denoted a tribe or clan from a single progenitor and bearing some variation of his name as their own. It was the french word nacion. They even track the word to old latin gnasci and lists a fucking PIE word as its source.
So you can fuck right off about this "nation is a new and meaningless word" nonesense. The word nation is older that your civilization and older than our recorded history.

That being said the last few hundred years have seen a push to fuck with the definition of nation. Our dictionaries currently claim that we now use nation in english with a different sense than before, it is claims to no longer mean people of common ancestory. This only applies to european nations though, the definition currently in dictionaries specifically mentions that native American nations etc are united by bonds of blood. So our dictionaries quite literally define nation as civic nationalism for europe and ethnonationalism for the rest.
Quite intriguing, and perhaps you should look some shit up before you spout off with retarded claims.

etymonline.com/word/nation#etymonline_v_2309>>13406850

Jose Phillips
Jose Phillips

Very intriguing
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ἔθνος
Noone cares about monolingual brainlets, open a book.

Here's Comrade Stalin on the issue. I shit on him a lot too, because Mountains make Men and I think he even lied about robbing banks, but that doesn't matter. Nazi cucks must learn to accept tough love. And really Germans are very lucky Stalin was so merciful, can you imagine the shock when the language of Heine started getting barked out in burned out villages, German people are really lucky Stalin was just a pushover bureaucrat, or maybe just jaded, check out what happened to the Ustase lol

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James Fisher
James Fisher

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm


But matters are usually not confined to the market. The semi-feudal, semi-bourgeois bureaucracy of the dominant nation intervenes in the struggle with its own methods of "arresting and preventing." The bourgeoisie – whether big or small – of the dominant nation is able to deal more "swiftly" and "decisively" with its competitor. "Forces" are united and a series of restrictive measures is put into operation against the "alien" bourgeoisie, measures passing into acts of repression. The struggle spreads from the economic sphere to the political sphere. Restriction of freedom of movement, repression of language, restriction of franchise, closing of schools, religious restrictions, and so on, are piled upon the head of the "competitor." Of course, such measures are designed not only in the interest of the bourgeois classes of the dominant nation, but also in furtherance of the specifically caste aims, so to speak, of the ruling bureaucracy.

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Jaxon Hill
Jaxon Hill

Thanks for killing the thread with your word salad.

Lucas Lee
Lucas Lee

Schizo cucks, please go.

David Thomas
David Thomas

This guy is actually remarkably clueless. Nearly every atom/foundation component idea he uses has intrinsic corruption and disfigurement. He repeatedly revels in this dis-education to assemble a quite frankly anglo-kike world view that retrofits itself, to sell itself, into a topic of ethno-xyz.

Holy mother of god, the more I listen to this, the more it sounds like some Joss-Whedon-Neo-Matriarchy-Feminist TV show… He attributes meaning left and right, commits mis-association and mis-assembly, and proceeds forward with increasingly bizarre mathematic permutations, when any sane mathematician would first go in the opposite direction and refine number and algebra definitions first (before making paragraphs of logic based on undefined/mis-defined sand).

When the pious-low-IQ-who-think-they-are-high-IQ darwinist soyboys get stress out by the consequences of their own mathematics, they just keep twisting their mathematics all over the damn place instead of revisiting their intriniscally insane foundations.

Dear god in heaven.

Failure to understand just about everything.

Adrian Sanders
Adrian Sanders

((((32))))
wew

Levi Sanders
Levi Sanders

This whole post REEKS of estrogen.

Luke Price
Luke Price

Wouldn't a better caption be "The principled strong should fear the many enslaved"?
Can't really call it strength when you're meat-grinding your own people with Jewish commissars and the assistance of your ideological enemies.

Isaac Ward
Isaac Ward

Nazi retards got BTFO once already
You mean when communist slaves to Jerry teamed up with capitalist rubes of jewry and slaughtered millions. Hm. Sounds like thats exactly what Hitler earned of.
your little druggie leader
Guaranteed he was taller than you and on fewer drugs.
everyone laughs at you shitty bootlickers
You're either plying the lolberg jew or the pink jew and in either case, you're an absolute laughing stock.

your beloved past
Your entire post is you being wrapped up in the past.
I'm thinking about the future.

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Brayden Taylor
Brayden Taylor

slaves to Jerry
ken, meant jewry

Joseph Williams
Joseph Williams

what a faggot

Nolan Gonzalez
Nolan Gonzalez

Fucks sake autocorrect

Brandon Cruz
Brandon Cruz

keep pretending Deutsche Bank and General Electric aren't already bankrupt and that there isn't a fuckhuge crash coming
Whose pretending? Why contain it? S'cool.
it's all da joos, right
Yep. You inability to acknowledge the Jewish Problem hobbles you in all things.

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Thomas Hill
Thomas Hill

Leftypol is just the same people as pol, and vice versa. The locals ape thinking poorly. People don’t actually self-segregate within such an easily mixed space.

Pol shouldn’t be mistaken for reality; the locals are screaming retards whose delicious addiction to suffering prevents them from ever healing or comprehending criticism directed at them. The addictive thing about this site is that the prey think themselves predators so profoundly almost nothing can ever make them defend themselves from being predated upon. Almost nothing. With quiet joy I took another threadsnipe not too long ago.

Justin Lopez
Justin Lopez

great culture is getting destroyed by fucking capitalism, not some niggers.
Who did that?
Who brought the niggers?
Hm.

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Thomas Allen
Thomas Allen

Changing IPs doesn't make your toothless rhetoric any less identifiable (32).

Kevin Evans
Kevin Evans

Stalin: Locked up nigh-exclusively White people for opposing Jewish system of tyranny in their own lands
US: Millions of violent criminal niggers and muds brought into country by the same Jewish tyranny, incarcerated where necessary to keep criminality under control lest Jewish hegemony be challenged

The hilarity in the comparison here is just amazing.

Chase Moore
Chase Moore

spooks
For fucks sake is this a joke?
lellypool
most of them are former nazees
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

communism failed
<no it was capitalism!
No, capitalism succeeded.
It was the side of your beloved Jewish coin that won the day.
"'Communism'' failed, and badly at that: After teaming up with its ideological enemy to kill off a system that DID work, thus making it the enemy of both sides of that shekel, it was systematically shown to be shit and subsequently disbanded. I love when pinko fucks like you try to pretend we didn't already play this game.
You lost, and you betrayed everything you claimed to stand for before you lost. Now you're just a joke, a silly thing waved in front of gullible goyim as alternative to what is, despite being nothing but the other side of the same coin.
You'll never defeat the (((rich))) with such an ethos, it was made by them. Just for you. Good goy.

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Colton Lopez
Colton Lopez

communism and capitalism are both Jewish systems, and should not be held up as gods

Nathan Sullivan
Nathan Sullivan

Ever wondered why grifting and backstabbing is even more endemic in the right
I haven't noticed that at all.
What I've noticed is that the right (because its White) is more heavily imposed upon by the jew, who also owns the media, thus making it easy to hammer away at wedges and propagandize on any fracture points.

Nazis had always been attack dogs of Capital
Hahaha oh man, yeah sure bud, except that one time the Red Army were LITERALLY the attack swarm of Capital, with funding and supplies drop-shipped by the big C. How'd that work out for you?
Oh right, Communism fell.
And of course, who, to this fucming day, gets wheeled out by big C to attack any White right resistance?
Little c. The drug-addled mud-brained 'intellectual' commie faggits of the Middle and Upper classes. Good dog.

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Gabriel Collins
Gabriel Collins

Bingo, both dogs owned by the same master.
But here's the rub: The little red dog gets mounted daily, as it always has, by the big Shekelhound. And it likes it. It pretends not to, pretends its not totally dominated by the Shekelhound, but everyone sees the mounting.
The little red dog barks at the Big Red Wolf, NatSoc Clifford, as does the Shekelhound, for both know in their heart of hearts that they are on the same leash, thus making the wolf the truest of foes.

When the Shekelhound is in danger, when the Red Wolf walks and howls, the little red dog is sent forth to battle it on the Shekelhound's behalf, and it does so with gusto.

William Richardson
William Richardson

More than that, in fact.
The little red dog doesn't just like it, it needs it.

A shared leash, a shared master.
Good dog.

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Carson Evans
Carson Evans

Started out browsing /x/ and then started browsing Zig Forums over 10 years ago, but stopped 2-3 years ago and became a Communist. AMA.

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Cooper King
Cooper King

How often do you dilate?

Logan Turner
Logan Turner

Also, equality is a false God.
Not a question, but asking you about breadlines just seems too cruel.

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Jaxon Campbell
Jaxon Campbell

I don't.

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Christopher Butler
Christopher Butler

You mean these breadlines?

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Aaron Smith
Aaron Smith

So you're not really a Communist then?

Henry Butler
Henry Butler

I'm the only real Communist on the planet, obviously. Tranny Communism is not true Communism.

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Bentley Lopez
Bentley Lopez

Nah, the ones that came later.
You know, after you teamed up with the guys behind those breadlines?
To form your own breadlines?
After the kosher coin-flip which you lost?

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Nolan Evans
Nolan Evans

Don't post controlled-op Zionists on this board you cretin.
vid related, mental gymnastics of a sort I didn't even know was possible

Carter Nguyen
Carter Nguyen

Interesting color photo. Was this before or after revisionist Russia was taken over by Yeltsin's coup and he reinstalled Capitalism in the country?

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Robert Foster
Robert Foster

those breadlines are a capitalist hoax!
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

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Josiah Long
Josiah Long

cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP84B00274R000300150009-5.pdf

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Ethan Richardson
Ethan Richardson

Do any of these leftypol faggot trannies realize they would be put to death in an instant if they ever lived in a communist regime? How do they explain that away, what kind of insane lack of self awareness does it take to not get that? Stalin would have them killed, Mao would have them killed, Kim Jung Un would have them killed. I've never one gotten a response from leftypol faggots on this issue

Henry Lopez
Henry Lopez

cia says eating less meat means you eat more healthily
lol
average grain and potatoes
26% american
whopping 44% for soviet
yes goy, eat bread and less meat, it's more healthy

Jeremiah James
Jeremiah James

leftypol faggot trannies
Considering most /leftypol/ users are former Zig Forums users, many of them would not be killed by Stalin, Mao, or Kim. The fact is that /leftypol/ is full of what is commonly known as a "Brocialist", which is to say Communists who disagree with transgenderism, Social Democracy, and "woke" Capitalism. For example, someone on /leftypol/ is more likely to refuse to support banning free speech, and to not care about tranny bathrooms, than an average liberal faggot.

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Noah Cox
Noah Cox

BASED COMMIES, RUSSIA IS THE DEFENDER OF THE WHITE RACE AMIRITE

"Former pol user" means "Lurked for two week", go back reading your shitty books you dont understand faggot.

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Matthew Cruz
Matthew Cruz

Unironically the white race will die if they don't abandon Capitalism.

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Ethan Miller
Ethan Miller

(((white race)))

Joseph Torres
Joseph Torres

You're welcome to explain how the white race is jewish, Zig Forumsfriend.

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Isaac Ross
Isaac Ross

Lurk moar and learn to meme

Christopher Collins
Christopher Collins

the absolute state of this thread
come on Zig Forumsacks up ur game lol

Justin Lopez
Justin Lopez

Lurk moar and learn how to meme
I've been on imageboards for over 10 years. I came to Zig Forums when the first 4chan exodus happened during the GG fiasco.

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Austin Taylor
Austin Taylor

Considering most /leftypol/ users are former Zig Forums users, many of them would not be killed by Stalin,

Is this bait?

someone on /leftypol/ is more likely to refuse to support banning free speech, and to not care about tranny bathrooms, than an average liberal faggot.

Free speech doesn't exist in real socialist and communist states. I don't really care if they aren't total faggots about bathrooms if they support an ideology that actively wants to get rid of all opposing views. And before you ask no I don't support Nazism or living under a fascist dictatorship

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Ethan Davis
Ethan Davis

And yet you dont understand a thing, what a waste of 10 years, sad!

Jaxon Richardson
Jaxon Richardson

fbi.gov

Jackson Evans
Jackson Evans

Is this bait?
No. Stalin had reeducation for former National Socialists. Gulags for those who weren't willing to submit, of course, but those were better than being thrown in internment camps or put on trial by the west.
Free speech doesn't exist in real socialist and communist states
Free speech is a liberal concept. I fully support free speech, but i think that once a person has been determined to not be worthy of it, they're probably better off not participating in society at all. I think words shouldn't be banned, people should. Besides, as long as Capitalism is the ruling system, we will always support free speech, if only to undermine the ruling system.

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Dominic Sanders
Dominic Sanders

molto butthurt, molto onore
Why do feds revert to screeching that easily?

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Landon Adams
Landon Adams

I don't get the whole point of being communist.
Nazis are already socialists.
We just aren't faggots about it.

Ethan Sullivan
Ethan Sullivan

people are a product of their culture is the first post
Have they ever considered perhaps culture not only is tailor made by the overall attitude and morality of the group? have they not considered that CULTURE is an environmental factor that can affect natural selection? Have they not considered this can create a feedback loop (nigger culture/genetic impulsiveness) which can cause regression?

Daniel Wilson
Daniel Wilson

I see you have a problem with his and i suppose woodleys work, i admit he's anglo-centric, not entirely without reason i'd say, but could you elaborate on this matter in greater depth? What are these insane foundations you speak of?

Nolan James
Nolan James

Nazis are already socialists
You aren't though.
Culture is not inherently racial. It adapts to material conditions - for example, to argue that Africans are lazy because they're Africans ignores the abundance of resources that Africa contains. To argue that European culture evolved inherently to Europeans ignores the constant wars that being Europeans endured, the cultural differences between French and Germans, and Anglos and Scandinavians, and it ignores the evolution of recent cultures, such as the culture of Communism, something which is not inherently racial in nature at all.

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Aiden Morales
Aiden Morales

The foundations of a culture largely develops as a result of the environment a group is in, much like the genetic adaptations of a group, if niggers are lazy because of an abundance of resources which then bleeds into the very fabric of society, then what pressure do they have to adapt to be productive and work in a resource scarce environment? like I said, it creates a negative loop that is extremely difficult to shatter. it starts to sound like the chicken and the egg problem however.

Hudson Bell
Hudson Bell

We don't live in a resource scarce environment, though. The bourgeoisie hoards the wealth. We live in an artificially-resource-scarce environment.
Anyways, Black culture in white countries is very different from African culture. The difference being the adaptation of the culture to white societies. The racism faced by blacks is one of the reasons why they have a predisposition to crime, as well as the inequality of wealth. If you have no money and will never be hired based on race (diversity quotas and affirmative action exist now, but that's not reflected in culture as it is a recent development), crime is the path to having money. This also applies to white trash and the rural poor.Regardless of what role genetics plays in culture, the adaptation of culture to the environment in which it grows is very separate from race, especially now since black culture has evolved in an alien environment.

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Mason Sullivan
Mason Sullivan

very separate from race
the bourgeoisie
I think you are
keeping "race" and "genetics" in some magical sandbox entirely apart from eachother to attempt this argument. You imply blacks cannot aquire jobs due to race, this has not been true in many decades. Blacks do not have an inequality problem in modern america, the price to pay for discriminating against them, or even for appearing as such is so steep versus that of other races it may as well be banishment. Blacks have an ATTITUDE problem, I have known and seen many who despite having multiple mouths to feed and in need of a job desperately, refuse to pick up a low paying job whereas a white male with a family would gladly attempt to apply for because "man 13 dollars an hour? fuck that shit" t.negro with no income. It pulls right around to their overall demeanor as a group and their culture.

If you want to talk about the bourgeoisie its hilarious that leftypol mocks us for our hatred of world jewry when most of the 1% is comprised of old money kike billionaires and the few gentile whites among their number are generally the most disgustingly neo-con israeli cocksuckers around. further compound the fact that the government in a few countries has provided antifa and left wing hard socialist groups with state funding. It seems like the left wishes to appear contrarian to be cool and hip, how can you be contrarian when you are the state enforced ideal. meanwhile a loyal ZOG loving group like the oath keepers is actually considered to be a "violent anti-government organization"

Adam Thompson
Adam Thompson

I don't give a fuck about understanding them. I only care about splattering their brains with a rifle.

Samuel Lee
Samuel Lee

RE: youtube.com v=bS0HhSL4WV8
20190614_RedIceTV_Edward.Dutton-Race.Differences.Ethnocentrism
Nearly every atom/foundation component idea he uses has intrinsic corruption and disfigurement.
Request for enumeration
Declined, respectfully. Such would be too long, and flame war prone.
Implied request for elaboration
Jordan Peterson is a good analogy. When JP arrived, his initial arguments, positions, and path all ascribed him a credit. This credit was misallocated, and ultimately found to be bankrupt. JP was just a shill, using the ether for profit, and his latest just a new iteration of a highly repetitive model at that. JP amassed inappropriate wealth via the welfare academic complexes of Le Canada, and then went on to arbitrage those deep monies, attentions, and positions to jump ship. JP was, is, and in all likelihood will remain, 100p shill no matter what skin he wears. Part of the core mechanical reasons why JP is able to shape-shift and adapt to any new money/resource train, is that his words and core foundations are mired in anglo-kike misunderstandings misassociations and misinterpretations of both language (math) and contexts of the natural world. Subsequently, with such failed foundations, and refusal to revisit components upon repeated failure (no introspection of previously 'learned' learnings), all derivations are anything-he-wants-them-to-be. This is not math, this is not Mankind, this is just pupil, and can conclude that dinosaurs were gay just as easily as it can conclude that civic nationalism is a natural justice for all social beings. Beyond fucked up.

A disregard of all assemblies, to focus on an iterative list of all pieces of misfoundation, arranged from most significant to least significant, would detract from this point. Again, such is declined. A pattern is recognized, through all available confessions, and no credit will be extended.

/offtopicsage

Jose Johnson
Jose Johnson

13409025
We don't live in a resource scarce environment, though. The bourgeoisie hoards the wealth. We live in an artificially-resource-scarce environment.
Anyways, Black culture in white countries is very different from African culture. The difference being the adaptation of the culture to white societies. The racism faced by blacks is one of the reasons why they have a predisposition to crime, as well as the inequality of wealth. If you have no money and will never be hired based on race (diversity quotas and affirmative action exist now, but that's not reflected in culture as it is a recent development), crime is the path to having money. This also applies to white trash and the rural poor.Regardless of what role genetics plays in culture, the adaptation of culture to the environment in which it grows is very separate from race, especially now since black culture has evolved in an alien environment.

No faggot, that's not how that works. Niggers are a plague upon this earth because they are low IQ subhumans who wouldn't know hard work or success if it bit them in the ass. The worst mistake the United States ever made was slavery, because now we're stuck dealing with the descendants of all the faulty farm equipment we somehow thought was a good idea to import into our nation. The same applies to any Western nation stupid enough to ever willingly bring in niggers and shitskins into their borders.

Cameron Cooper
Cameron Cooper

reading that /leftypol/ thinks eugenics == inbreeding and cousin fucking.
Hardcore eugenics keeps track of who fucked who to ensure nobody is unraveling all that work with a single dicking, not to mention the white genepool despite being a global minority is still many thousands of times over large enough to interbreed without fear of issues, no "extra brown diversity" required in the genepool "

Eli Young
Eli Young

I never said that blacks have faced incredible discrimination in recent years like it was in the past. Only that their culture has not yet fully adapted to their newfound life. Crime is still glorified among other things as a remnant of their past status as being less-than-human.
Anyways, you're close to hitting the mark on all the bourgeoisie. The fact is that the bourgeoisie is not entirely jewish. Even if they were mostly jewish, that would not negate the fact that yu guys have race traitors at the top you need to purge. It's about wealth for us, but for you it's about race. Still, using racial logic, the people at the top of society must be purged for being traitors to their own race and selling whites out to the jews.
Liberalism and neoliberalism are the only state-funded ideologies nowadays. If it isn't "muh free markets", it's "muh freedom to have sex with whoever i want". None of it questions the markets or the bourgeoisie. We haven't been recieving state funding since the Soviet Union fell, except perhaps in remnant Communist states such as Cuba or north Korea, but that certainly has very little effect on a global scale.
The worst mistake the United States ever made was slavery
Okay, what are you going to do about it? I've already posted a webm that somewhat explains my opinion on immigration. Watch that. Anyways, the fact is that nowadays we're all slaves. Our chains are obscured behind paint that makes us feel good about the way they look. Capitalism is our chains. Even if Jews are in control, then Capitalism is the chains which they are enslaving you with. If you won't throw your chains off, you're never going to kill the jew.

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Chase Hall
Chase Hall

Id argue that capitalism under a strongly enforced and idolized bill of rights (america) has been one of the most successful experiments yet, we had a decent length run before the tipping point of subversion somewhere between 1930-1950. Obviously the roman empire lasted in prosperous state for far longer iirc, but at the same time it was much harder to control and appease the masses for the will of the malign. Socialism and communism is a pipe dream only potentially obtainable in a society well on its way to hitting singularity. Boundless energy to extract resources to produce goods, AI to ensure the human element can not subvert the will of utopia etc. Not to mention elements tagged onto the ideology like the destruction of the family unit and other things which are the core of the human behavior and not to be overwritten easily without terrible results. TL:DR capitalism has proven to be effective, "real gommunisdms" needs us to not be a tier .8 civilization and although we can surely experiment with new options we can't just say "fuck government lol" in the meantime.

Chase Collins
Chase Collins

[niggers]…their culture has not yet fully adapted…to their newfound life.

Not new. Not newfound. Already adapted.

The culture of niggers derives from niggers; It is not abstract and cannot independently change from their genetic base as niggers. Their culture was serially selected by them to serve their lifeform, as parasites to Man. What you see now is a refinement for more extraction, which is itself the adaptation. Sure, it is a repeated terminal dead end, each time Man is forced to retreat back to the highlands and winter. See Haiti. But none of this is 'newfound' nor 'newly found' in any sense; We've been at this for thousands of years.

This is the same for all cannibal (Asiatic inclusive of kike) and parasitic (African) shitskins: those who fling their shit + demand your shit + use their skins as an excuse via mass hysteria. See holocaust, see muh slavery – both the latest in a series of narrative adaptations to eat Mankind, both derived as cultures from a series of genetic-imperative driven adaptations, both not new, nor newly found.

Carson Scott
Carson Scott

Capitalism was more successful than Feudalism, and Feudalism was more successful than tribal societies. Since history is dialectical, Capitalism needs to be abolished. It's had long enough to develop the productive forces. It's as simple as that, really. No experiment lasts forever.
The amount of justification it takes to remain spiteful towards other races is incredible.

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Christopher Cox
Christopher Cox

[spite not credible]
Correct. Spite is not relevant. We've been here before. We've been at this for tens of thousands of years. Not newly found.

Henry Wood
Henry Wood

The American experiment needs to be reforged strongly based on what we have learned from its implementation without the failed experiment of multiculturalism tagged on to cause massive pointless internal friction and easily exploitable racial lines which weaken the republic. We have no appealing alternative presented by the great minds of the world, we simply have to improve incrementally based on the results of the previous foundations, just as America was built on a modern synthesis of Romes ancient republic and the more recent french revolution and liberty. We cannot simply click "next big breakthrough in government" this has to be researched and developed over time.

Ryder Brooks
Ryder Brooks

daily reminder that capitalism has been absolutely disastrous for the white race as well as everyone else except for the jews and it must be destroyed and replaced with something equitable for a pluralist world where every race (not jews) has their own home organized with justice and humanity in mind.

Jordan Ward
Jordan Ward

read "On the Jewish Question" and reconsider

Camden Adams
Camden Adams

What a fag, he tries to misdirect when he comes to the realization that he is a cuck for kikes

Jason Edwards
Jason Edwards

Communism is inherently anti-jewish
You know this shitter isn't entirely wrong. The jews don't enforce communism on themselves, just the goyim. They themselves still like in decadence and debauchery.

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Asher Anderson
Asher Anderson

From looking left to right i see maybe 3-4 people who appear to have lived a life of discipline and are able bodied. These faggots don't realize that stalin would turn them into mush meal to feed the gulags and the farm animals.

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

NSDAP cared about class as well. But instead of having class conflict, it was about united all the classes together for the good of the nation.

Jason Reed
Jason Reed

Class collaborationism is no different to your standard Social Democratic Euro state in the modern day. Your rich class will backstab you 100% of the time.

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Jaxson Collins
Jaxson Collins

The jews don't enforce communism on themselves, just the goyim.

Communism is just a attractive precursor that leveled everything for the working class down to a perfect medium, and then lowers it over and over as the elite live like some kind of gods. Eventually it gets to a point where the working class are seen as a resource and not as humans. Once humans are no longer humans but are just cogs, if the cogs become too expensive they just get rid of them. Stalin and many other dictators who ran a government that was built on communism would just euthanize entire cities with gun fire or famine when a city became useless or had too many dissidents in it.
This is how the tree goes, from top to bottom.
Zionism
Bolshevism
Communism

Jews fear two things, pure Ancap where they can't pull strings with a Government entity and National Socialism that is run by Anglos or Aryan. People claim that Ancap is a jewish trick but Jews don't have the charisma or the physical capability to survive in a world where the strong survives and everything else becomes slaves or dead.

Jeremiah Nguyen
Jeremiah Nguyen

Don't see anything different between the politicians and le rich people m8.

Mao is both a politician and rich.

inb4 he baste tho

Matthew Garcia
Matthew Garcia

He baste tho

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Evan Cruz
Evan Cruz

He so baste he willing to sell chinks to Nixon.

inb4 it's realpolitik tho

Tyler Jackson
Tyler Jackson

picture of lean men with farm tools
Go take a picture of your flabby soy arm a rake if you can even find one near your apartment, faggot.

Ayden Walker
Ayden Walker

Maoist China had no shortage of chinese people to give to nixon, although i doubt mao was selling people to americans.
It's sad that a picture of people acting in self-interest and solidarity with each-other is enough to get you mad enough to reply.

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Bentley Murphy
Bentley Murphy

Maoist China had no shortage of chinese people to give to nixon, although i doubt mao was selling people to americans.
So what happened to the whole Mao wouldn't betray the people bits?

I guess it's okay if it's just some girls?

All for the greater good and Murican dosh?

Dominic Perry
Dominic Perry

All for the greater good. Whether or not it was right or wrong, whatever you're talking about, the fact is that Communist China grew to become the second world superpower. If that isn't proof that Mao did something right, i don't know what is.

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Hunter Powell
Hunter Powell

LOL, it becomes a regional power because Deng went capitalist and USA moves their slave labor operation there.

Exploiting people.

For the greater good.

Adrian Walker
Adrian Walker

I honestly don't think Deng went full Capitalist. I think he was fully committed to the Socialist cause, but he decided that the best way to move forward was to take advantage of the surplus of civilians in China and overtake growth internationally by utilizing the global markets in such a way that China would be able to manipulate its way to the top. I'd love to see landlords get lynched in China (same everywhere else too), but the fact is that the course they've taken has worked pretty well at this point.
implying everyone else doesn't exploit people in the current Capitalist system
Stop being mad that China has done a market system better than your favorite country. If markets are the greatest good, why be mad when Communists do them better?

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Juan Allen
Juan Allen

Deng brought back private property, oversea investment and billionaire politicians.

He brought back super ultra capitalism, not just the regilar one.

Stop being mad that China has done a market system better than your favorite country. If markets are the greatest good, why be mad when Communists do them better?
LOL, there's no point to a good economy if the people work in unhealthy environment and to dead.

The homeless in America beg for food, the poor in China have no choice but to work or die.

I wish all the chinks-sympathizers can be directly send to China, especially Shanghai and Shenzen.

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

Essentially. They went Communism with Chinese Characteristics.

They exploited the fact that our entire degenerate consumerist system is reliant on and addicted to cheap labour. It can't provide for a population.
So the chink leadership offered up their population to get the capitalist nations to pay for them to industrialise heavily.
And as a bonus they and their buddies got to engage in all manner of decadent capitalist behaviours.

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Jordan Carter
Jordan Carter

Billionaire communism.

Nuff said.

Blake Hernandez
Blake Hernandez

there's no point to a good economy if the people work in unhealthy environments and to death
There are a billion Capitalists in the world who would disagree with you.

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Brody Roberts
Brody Roberts

And I would disagree with each one of them.

These niggers are basically building their castles on sand.

Adrian Fisher
Adrian Fisher

I'm not sure if dutton and peterstein are equitable, i have seen enough of peterstein to know what you say of him is accurate and he is on the most fundamental level wrong, dangerously wrong. However dutton has called peterson out specifically for those wrongs and based on the works that dutton has done and what he has said in his youtube works, to me it seems like he's just advocating for greater in-group preference (implied racialist nationalism) and pro-natalism in the European people as well as eugenicist policies indirectly so as to not get lynched by the lugenspresse. I fail to see the harm in this especially since the both of them woodley and dutton seem to have their sources, statistics and science in order. Of course one could argue that their research work itself is wrong in fact or conclusion but in that case that would require proof of this and depending on the case on ill-intent on their part. For now i will regard the two as sufficiently reliable and it seems to me that they're just old fashioned scientists trying to find the truth in the current year and make a living. Well that is until there exists a sufficiently convincing expose of them and their wrongs anyway. Of course you could say "just read their research work, analyze their statements, you will see how they're wrong" and it is fine of you to say that but i have not the time for it, it would require a significant time investment on a minor frivolity even if the topics they speak of are of great importance.

Isaac Harris
Isaac Harris

Well then stop being fash, things look desperate but dionysian mass suicide is not the answer.

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

The issue the system has is its reliant on a bunch of consumerist capitalist societies existing. It certainly can't dodge the problem our consumerist capitalist societies had.

They're trying to rig the hukou system as a solution and it sort of works. Since different parts of China have different levels of social welfare, rights, etc and what you get is determined by your hukou and where you are. You can't get those sweet Beijing rights and social welfare unless you have the coveted Beijing hukou. But you don't because you're from some rural province and as such are not eligible for fucking anything in Beijing. Your kids won't be eligible either even if they're born in Beijing.

But obviously this is just setting them up for a longterm civil war.
It does mean though that they have decent sized chunks of people who will stick up for them to protect their own privileged position AND they have leverage to try and get key people on their side if any kind of popular uprising starts.

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Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

Being this retarded…
National Socialism stops captalists from fucking people over retard

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

It really kinda did, if mean if you just make it illegal and then enforce the law, it's a non issue beyond corporate attempts at bending the law and the enforcing agencies trying to get corporate gibs. But you can fight basic corruption like that.

Alexander Jackson
Alexander Jackson

Sort of.
Fascism seeks to abolish class war in favour of racial/national solidarity.
Sure you may be rich but your brothers/countrymen need your help. Which coupled with the fascists general love of long term structural solutions tends to have good outcomes.

Capitalists who fail to adhere to this general idea of solidarity in a fascist society suffer a lot more public scorn and hostile action from the wider state, than they would in our decadent consumerist societies.

For an example of the ideal capitalist in the eyes of most fascist thinkers. Look to Henry Ford.
More specifically look to the actions he took that led to the landmark court case: Ford vs Dodge

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Julian Nguyen
Julian Nguyen

I felt the need to clarify somewhat.
They're not relying on legal force as their first means to ensure people follow through on solidarity.
They're using social pressure as the main lever. You would be shocked what you can get people to agree with when you are able to utilise social pressure. Just look at our societies as an example.

If you're having to utilise legal force on the regular then the problem isn't fixed.
This is why fascist thinkers and states favoured engineering public opinion to heap social scorn/disgust on those who fell short on this front. It fixes the problem by creating a self reinforcing and perpetuating mechanism of coercion that requires little outside maintenance.

The dark art of the social sciences used for good rather than turning kids into gay trannies.

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Luis Murphy
Luis Murphy

Request for distinction, and reconsideration, as Dutton path is not yet non-circumstantial.
Fair. I'll retract prejudice/prejudgement. We'll see if Dutton can steer himself out of his arrested development, and shed the decades of accrued+invested commune indoctrination of misunderstandings of science at the hands of the welfare academic complexes. It will be very painful to stop, turn around, and resume life from 8yo, but it has been witnessed before.

The mirror maze is worse in Britainstan, so perhaps this set him back over the red lines of detection. Thus it can be argued that his testament reflects such not-necessarily-his-own. This is a generous interpretation.

Eli Mitchell
Eli Mitchell

Kikes are behind both. US vs Soviet Russia was an AB Test to see which was better to control people with and could withstand outside pressures better. You are still stuck in the kike sandwich until you take a legit 3rd position.

Noah Thompson
Noah Thompson

The self-hating Jew is literally a trope at this point. Even if Marx disliked kikes (and by extension himself), he only hated them for their religion. He was bluepilled, just like /leftypol/ faggots, on race realism. Marx was still a Jew and his thought is as Jewish as it gets, especially in light of influence from the first Zionist Moses Hess – a fanatical Jew who Marx called his “communist rabbi”.

Hudson Bailey
Hudson Bailey

and it ignores the evolution of recent cultures, such as the culture of Communism, something which is not inherently racial in nature at all.
Considering its origins, I'd say that's a perfect example of its inherently jewish nature
Ever wondered why grifting and backstabbing is even more endemic in the right? Maybe there's a structural reason? I'm not letting the left off at all, just saying that Nazis had always been attack dogs of Capital, and your silly everexpanding fractal of backstabbing proves that.
On your last point, there's a ton of shit on the left too, but I hope most sectarianism is just larping, and yeah at least the shitposting is more quality-based
Most strawmanned divides on Zig Forums like "x is not white" or religion is usually shitposting as well, but nice projection

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Angel Richardson
Angel Richardson

People was bounded to their land, and they were born in the same town they died. No instability in life excepting for climate and weather contingencies. But at the moment that capitalist relations were introduced in those countries, the way of living was fundamentally altered. People no longer had a land to subsist, and if they wanted to survive, now they had to move from point to point looking for a job to sell their labor force. This was a major change in the way people existed and lived.
South Africa is living testament as to why your interpretation of reality is incorrect. The Boer established a civilization in the middle of nowhere, nothing exited there save for two or three tribes that had no land to cling to. After this civilization was established, Africans from the very north of the continent crossed the Sahara desert and risked everything they had to grab a slice of "capitalism". Those northern africans that migrated did not have a capitalist boogeyman that stole the land from them or changed they way they lived, they literally decided for themselves that the land they were not kicked off of, the land they inhabited for centuries, was worth absolute shit in comparison and migrated to get a slice of what the whites built on the polar opposite end of the continent. If lack of access to land to subsist from is the reason for migration, why was there such a giant migration to the south if they maintained access to said land? This is where your entire ideology falls apart. They moved there because they wanted what they could not produce due to their lack of intelligence, so they risked everything to get a piece of it and as they began to outnumber the whites that built a paradise they destroyed everything they got their hands on. Biology is responsible for that, not economics.
you don't explain it by alluding to jews
Do you honestly believe all of us think jews just magically mind controlled every single nonwhite? The blame for the jews lies solely for their part of the process, not for the result. Do you believe I think a jew is responsible for a nigger wanting to flee from North Africa to white South Africa? Of course not, the nigger wants what he cannot create thus its natural for him to seek to migrate to find a better life under white civilization. None of us blame the jew for natural behavior of people. We blame the jews for their part in the ordeal. It's natural for a nigger to want to come to Europe for food, medicine, peace, prosperity, etc. but it's the jew who invited him in. You cannot deny it. Barbara Specter proudly declared jews would be directly involved in extending them an invitation into our homes. They engage in nepotism as outlined in the culture of critique and use said in group nepotism to dominate finance, banking, entertainment media, news media and politics. If you doubt this merely look up the owners of these industries and for jewish heritage/marriage in politicians. We hate the jew for being a guest in our home that extends the invitation to others at our expense.
you explain it by seeing social relations in different societies, certainly not racial differences
But we know race is important in the way society operates. Multiracial societies have lower social trust, cohesion, volunteerism, and sees individuals selecting a "hunkering down" type of behavior not seen in homogenous countries. A quick google search will give you study after study showing this. Before any sort of culture clash is even added into the mix, the mere presence of an "other" is enough to destabilize a community. Race is sadly why it happens.

I hate the caricature held of us. Do you think I genuinely am happy that life is this way? Do you think I'm glad niggers are retarded and violent prone rather than builders of their own civilizations? Hell, if they were equal they'd have never had a reason to migrate in the first place because they could have simply made their homes as well as we made ours. I'm not glad the world is this way, but it sadly is. It's a viscerally disgusting, brutal and SOUL CRUSHING reality, but it's the fucking truth. Rather than bend reality to blind idealism, I bend myself to fit the mold, anything else will result in failure.

Levi Collins
Levi Collins

Anti-Jew
communismblog.wordpress.com/2014/12/11/list-of-communist-jews/

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David Thompson
David Thompson

He's not really part of the academia, he has a permanent unpaid honorary seat at some Finnish university because of his work before he got involved in intelligence research, he lives there too and he has been disavowed by the mainstream academic institutions, publications and publishers outside of intelligence research and related specialist publications. As far as i know it, he self funds himself primarily by his book sales. He has spoken of David riving positively in one his videos. Perhaps the argument could be levied against him that he is unqualified to do the work he is doing because he's a theologist and woodley is a botanist of some stripe but their primary statistical work and findings remain unchallenged.

Aaron Taylor
Aaron Taylor

I hate the caricature held of us. Do you think I genuinely am happy that life is this way? Do you think I'm glad niggers are retarded and violent prone rather than builders of their own civilizations? Hell, if they were equal they'd have never had a reason to migrate in the first place because they could have simply made their homes as well as we made ours. I'm not glad the world is this way, but it sadly is. It's a viscerally disgusting, brutal and SOUL CRUSHING reality, but it's the fucking truth. Rather than bend reality to blind idealism, I bend myself to fit the mold, anything else will result in failure.
This, I wish real life was like how liberals, and marxists portrayed it. Things would be allot simpler. I wish I could simply blame a economic system for all the ills of the world. I wish that communism really was the answer to all the worlds problems. And I wish there really wasn’t racial differences, and that every race could make stable civilization. But reality doesn't care about wishful thinking, liberal rhetoric, and Marxist dialectics. Once you open your eyes to the truth, you can’t deny reality any longer.

Josiah Jenkins
Josiah Jenkins

Fucking and making babies? Please engage with the relevant literature and start making content-based arguments.
The "relevant literature" is just your way of saying
<only engage with me if you're willing to fully accept my philosophical basis!
I've read a bit of Marxist thought and your problem is that you've accurately distilled most of it. Reverting back to your pseudo-science just doesn't work here, no matter how many long and awful books have been written on it.

In what way is private property, for example, any more essential than slavery?
You're comparing our natural processes and inclinations to private property and slavery. That has to be an intentionally bad comparison. Strip everything else away and we still have our ESSENTIAL attributes, retard. That isn't something that changes with the times or material conditions. It's been true for a longer amount of time than we've even existed as a species.

You haven't offered any sort of cogent argument to back your absurd dismissal of the LTV except screeching that abstract value doesn't exist while ignoring the planning going on right now in private companies
Again, backing up the point that the labor theory is only correlated with large scale private entities with comparable market share and processes. That's why it's correlated, not causal. You could theoretically use the labor theory with some degree of success (it's not 1 to 1) within that circumstance. That doesn't prove the idea at all. It's merely an obvious correlation.
The labor abstraction going back over time is religious dogma. It makes the assumption of its own accuracy and then just says everything has to fall into place because it can be used sometimes. Thus, it's a shitty principle because it's inherently not disprovable. The extrapolation on that extrapolation is a tautology because you're assuming the system that you're trying to prove is already correct.

If I'm walking down the street and there's a man dying of thirst on the sidewalk, do I make a value judgement of my water versus his productive worth? How does one account for the enjoyment of people? It doesn't. Value is inherently subjective to our perception. Ironically, that's the same problem that the other side of the kike coin exploits with speculation and futures.

Besides, cataloguing all of that and assuming that's true, the idea of exploitation is ALSO inherently subjective and that's a pillar of Marxist thought. The uncomfortable question that communist regimes always fail with is: if humans are productive vehicles, what value is a human? We aren't all equal.

Then they ironically kill off the best and most potentially productive members of that society because they're smart enough to recognize how much of a fucking scam your entire worldview actually is.

You can't actually engage without completely changing the topic every post. Your foundation is bad, the things built on that foundation are bad. Maybe instead of being a pilpul faggot you should read the actual posts that preceded your shitting the bed and stop making a mockery of yourself.

It's essential to us to make offspring and support our kind. That's literally essential to us as a species. Trying to deny that or make allusions to anything else is just not supported by anything. I don't care about your "philosophers" that exist solely to reinforce obviously bad points. A basic exercise of intellect brought everyone to the same conclusion based on what we can observe. The ancient Greeks figured this out thousands of years ago.

You haven't backed up any of your points and just revert to saying I should read other people saying what you've said in long-form. You can't even back up the foundations of your own argument.

Lucas Sanchez
Lucas Sanchez

(me)
<only engage with me if you're willing to fully accept my philosophical basis!
Or more likely:
<You can't criticize my thinking until you've read 10000000 pages of worthless theoretical work that all go back to the same point!

Jaxson Johnson
Jaxson Johnson

This is so obviously true that you need to make extremely complex explanations to try refuting it. Even the most verbose excuses fall completely flat. We've seen this over and over.

Leftniggers just don't get that most of us don't like the current system either, but also get that communism results only in parasitism and death. Any idea based on the foundation of equality fails because that foundation is just not true.

If history is dialectical, then communism has already come and gone. If it isn't, communism still failed.

Isaac Anderson
Isaac Anderson

Where do you fall on the linkola- kacsynski axis?

Nathaniel Mitchell
Nathaniel Mitchell

It took 500 years after the entrance of liberal capitalism for feudalism to die. It's only reasonable that it'll take more than 100 for communism to replace capitalism. It's much harder now that the soviet union is dead, but still - capitalism is not the final economic system to be invented.

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James Rogers
James Rogers

The leftypol mods ban free speech all the fucking time. Contradict the mods, criticize commie-ism or name the jew and its an instant ban. Be smarter than the mods and outwit them….BANNED.

Jacob Gomez
Jacob Gomez

Feudalism has practically merged with capitalism as in the case of Saudi Arabia.

We have China and Russia REVERTING to capitalism after some years, what are the proof that "capitalism" i.e. market will die?

Brody Morris
Brody Morris

You haven't made a single argument to defend your beliefs, you just made claims. I'd like to know how Communism is anti-jewish, you can't just give a stupid explanation like that. Kikes are not pro-anything they just do and say whatever keeps them in power.

Alexander Williams
Alexander Williams

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Cooper Davis
Cooper Davis

Your (((reddit))) (((spacing))) and (((ECHOS))) give you away, (((newfren))). Traditional mores were never exposed to broadcast media. They do not stand up against concentrated assault. They rely on k-selected neighbors with shared interests. This is a fundamental flaw that used to be mitigated by difficult borders (oceans, mountains etc…). For those mores to survive they must develop a better resistance to threats than calling them stupid. Nobody can convince me that study of the enemy is a waste of time.

Hunter Thomas
Hunter Thomas

Underrated post.

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Levi Sanchez
Levi Sanchez

Ecofascism is the more realistic solution, so I think anything IRL will take more of a Linkola policy-line. Kaczynski is spot on when it comes to the symptoms of what’s wrong though

Hunter Cooper
Hunter Cooper

lenin was jewish tho

David Myers
David Myers

yes goy, the Jewish Russian Chuvash mongrel Lenin was based, just watch this video!

Aiden Harris
Aiden Harris

Wtf I love Lenin now

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Josiah Evans
Josiah Evans

lol its Lenin guis epin meme XD

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Nolan Thomas
Nolan Thomas

Lenin's father, Ilya Nikolayevich Ulyanov, was from a family of serfs; his ethnic origins remain unclear, with suggestions being made that he was Russian, Chuvash, Mordvin, or Kalmyk.[3] Despite this lower-class background he had risen to middle-class status, studying physics and mathematics at Kazan Imperial University before teaching at the Penza Institute for the Nobility.[4] Ilya married Maria Alexandrovna Blank in mid-1863.[5] Well educated and from a relatively prosperous background, she was the daughter of a wealthy German–Swedish Lutheran mother, and a Russian Jewish father who had converted to Christianity and worked as a physician.[6] It is likely that Lenin was unaware of his mother's half-Jewish ancestry, which was only discovered by his sister Anna after his death.[7] Soon after their wedding, Ilya obtained a job in Nizhny Novgorod, rising to become Director of Primary Schools in the Simbirsk district six years later. Five years after that, he was promoted to Director of Public Schools for the province, overseeing the foundation of over 450 schools as a part of the government's plans for modernisation. His dedication to education earned him the Order of St. Vladimir, which bestowed on him the status of hereditary nobleman.[8]

Russian Jewish father who had converted to Christianity
Russian Jewish father
Explain this then retard

Elijah Butler
Elijah Butler

You can't stop being a Jew even if you convert to a different religion. It's a race first and foremost. Lenin was a kike

Austin Torres
Austin Torres

Wow, some completely unrelated speech posts from /leftypol/, marxists once again showing their intellectual superiority.

Logan Jenkins
Logan Jenkins

shid I thought you were not being ironic, my bad for being a tard

Ian Rivera
Ian Rivera

Of course it is you're a Zig Forums browser

John Johnson
John Johnson

implying your faggotry has any semblance of IQ being put to work

Joshua Mitchell
Joshua Mitchell

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Jayden Gray
Jayden Gray

Communism is Anti-Jewish
< (((Leon Trotsky)))
< (((Karl Marx)))
< (((Vladimir Lenin)))
I know this is bait but I'm still going to reee at this demonstration of severe autism.

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Isaiah Russell
Isaiah Russell

JOIN US WORKERS!

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Joshua Cox
Joshua Cox

Commies are irony impaired. They can't see that communism is no different than capitalism. Whats the difference between a Capitalist Fat Cat and a Politburu Fat Cat? NOTHING. Both systems put a small minority in power that leech of the labor of the nation.

Jason Rivera
Jason Rivera

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James Kelly
James Kelly

Forgot to say, but how do I explain evolution of different races to them?

Evan Peterson
Evan Peterson

H-hey guys, we're all white, right? We need to work together! Marxism doesn't work, you need to abandon it and just support our cause so we can kill the rich together!
<kills "beefsteak nazis" because of their former Marxist views or their focus on labor
C'mon! Marxism is anti-white! How can you be white and a Marxist? Sure, you might be a Marxist now, but we'll forgive you if you just help us get into power and kill everyone we don't like!
<kills those with Marxist views
How am i, a white male with Marxist views, supposed to give up my class-based analysis of the world, all because i need to feel solidarity with other whites who want to kill jews and eventually me for my Marxist leanings?
There is no way around this. We're always going to be enemies, even if we Marxists are explicitly not anti-white or anti-male. You're always going to threaten to kill us because we focus on wealth distribution rather than race.

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Juan Perry
Juan Perry

Truth is it's always been about both class AND race alike, with the richest black communities having more crime than the poorest whites, but I can still feel you on the flip-side with your fellow Marx-Leninists and my national socialist because I don't trust jews.

We also have a lot more in common than we'd like to admit, ideologically speaking.

Isaiah Torres
Isaiah Torres

the biggest difference between our world views, to put it this way, is the fact that
1. you Marxists put the blame on the society while we put it on the individual and his choices
2. you don't believe in the human potential for evolution and deem the human individual as a sum of external forces, while we focus on the idea of the ubermensch
3. And this leads me to this conclusion : you run from responsibilities, while we cherish them as the primary force that shapes humans into better version of themselves

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Colton Allen
Colton Allen

individualism
Enjoy atomization. Individuals do not overthrow economic systems, nor do they undertake national endeavors. No man is an island.

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Angel Hill
Angel Hill

A spartan that formed the phalanx was an individual, strong willed and powerful by himself, an ultimate soldier.
Viewing yourself as an individual does not mean that you can not acknowledge the necessity of society or the need to come together in harsh times/environments.
Or maybe this more poetic perspective can paint my point better : we are like waves, each wave is an entity by itself, with it's unique aspects, but this does not mean that we are not forming the ocean.
The status of superman can only be achieved with a certain degree of individualism, there is no other way around

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Aaron Smith
Aaron Smith

As long as you're blaming individuals for collective issues, you will always ignore the root cause of them.
If a person is spreading HIV/AIDS on purpose, his disease spreading is most definitely a state issue.
If a person is homeless and systematically unemployed, it's a collective issue.
It's not hard to understand. Ebola, for example is a national health concern - the rights of the individual are less important than the safety of the nation. If someone has an easily-spread, deadly disease, he should be thrown into quarantine and cured without his permission. This line of thinking applies to traitors who belong in gulags, and it applies to the bourgeoisie who put profit ahead of national interests. It's that simple.

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Cooper Sullivan
Cooper Sullivan

There you can see the fine distinction that I talked about earlier :
If a person is homeless and systematically unemployed, it's a collective issue.
It's not. It's most likely his own fault. Not everything that doesn't work out in your life is because other people made it so, life is suffering, accept it.
Also Ebola is a bad example as it is a fabricated disease or at least enhanced in some labs.
the bourgeoisie who put profit ahead of national interests
As if the Politburo dudes were selfless saints, have you seen Lenin's house?

Damn dude you are so void of any spiritualism it is almost painful

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Gabriel Ramirez
Gabriel Ramirez

For a Communist, i actually am rather spiritual. Not that it changes much, though. Sainthood is for better people than myself.
Homelessness is unacceptable, same as starvation and dying of thirst. If the incentive for rich people to work harder is tax cuts, why is the incentive for poor people to work harder to take away their personal property? Society deems the homeless to be useless because they can't adapt to a hyper-capitalist reality. No wonder so many people spiral down a drug-fueled depression and eventually end up dead somehow. It has nothing to do with inherent worth, or whether or not people were trying hard enough. Only that certain people are not determined to be worth keeping alive by the capitalist system.
I don't care that ebola is fabricated in a lab. All i care about is that the example of a deadly disease being spread between individuals is used in the context of individualism. To be frank, i get a sadistic satisfaction with our individualist healthcare system. You Capitalists think that it is an individual's right to spread diseases. What nonsense, but of course i can only sit back and say "i told you so" and point out that such things can be avoided. You probably agree when i say that bug-chasers should be killed, right? For the greater good?
How can workers work with the threat of homelessness? Let me ask you, is it any more efficient? Let's say you're an employer - you require all of your workers to be able to drive. What about people who don't have cars? People who don't want to own cars because of the damage it can cause to the environment? I'd argue that, if construction workers are required to use hammers on the job and are given those hammers in order to work as well as the training necessary to use them, so too should people who are expected to drive given the access to a vehicle and the training required to use it. If your workers need a house to live in, it's only efficient if their housing is assured.
Housing, food, and water - people cannot work without these. How can you compare the net worth of somebody who has all of his basic needs met to somebody who is starving on the street? It doesn't make any sense.

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Jace Jackson
Jace Jackson

Bro don't try to make the world a safe space, wtf?
You will fail spectacularly every single time. Try to re-watch the interrogation of Morpheus by Agent Smith, he makes a good point there about how the 1st instance of the Matrix was a utopia and was rejected by humans.
How can workers work with the threat of homelessness?
Why would you work otherwise? Do you understand that people need the suffering and the hardships otherwise we would all remained niggers or even worse chimps?
Damn commie, why are you so defeatist?

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Luis Kelly
Luis Kelly

You Capitalists
Nobody here is a capitalist. You cannot comprehend that there are ways of thinking that understand your train of thought and transcend it. You've been synthesized nigger. Communism and capitalism are both dead, national socialism and race-based political systems are forever superior to ones obsessed with "equality" and the distribution (hoarding or forcibly distributing) of money. You cowards formed your own board because you cannot engage with us, and the few of you who do engage in the most superficial and pretentious manner and it shows. This thread is proof that you refuse to listen to the points being put forth, you close your ears and continue to blindly boast of your outdated point of view. As long some of it gets in your thick skull, that will suffice.

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Lincoln Nguyen
Lincoln Nguyen

Do you propose the total and unconditional nationalization of industry?
No?
Then you are Capitalist. Social Democracy is still Capitalism, even when it includes nationalist tendencies.
Anyways, if you have not read our books, you do not understand our "train of thought" (rather, our objective economic analysis). Capitalism is certainly not dead - it is the prevailing system of the modern era and it won't die unless people dismantle it wholesale. Only liberals care about equality - you may be surprised to know that we despise liberals for their subversion of our politics. It's not about equality for Communists. It's about who owns the majority of the wealth and who doesn't. The fact is that anywhere from 10% to 1% of people on planet earth own the majority of the wealth and resources. Not to mention the ability or means to produce things that collective society requires to sustain itself. Factories, land, and the resources in the land have never belonged to a single individual. To claim ownership of it is to lie to the people who extract it and to the people who require those resources to sustain a livelihood.
If you're going to turn people into machines, at least put forth the effort required to make them functional. If a machine doesn't have the electricity required to run, it's not going to run. That's how people work. If people don't have a house, a car to drive to work with (or some other form of reliable transport), food and water, they're not going to perform their duties.
you shouldn't work towards a better future because if the standard of living is too good people won't work for a better standard of living
You're right. We already live in a decadent society, after all. How can prosperity be better for everyone? Should we instead strive to live in a dystopia where people are brutally beaten on the streets by gangs and robbed on a regular basis, and forced to stand right back up or else they die?
The decadence we have is not reflected in a majority of the population. Instead we have coping mechanisms. The rich have decadence - they're able to live without fear of living or dying. The poor on the other hand are regularly treated like animals in cages. I'd say that it isn't decadence, but addiction that has afflicted us.
I'll be honest, my thoughts are disjointed. It's hard to put them into words right now. I'm struggling to stay awake.

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Joseph Scott
Joseph Scott

LOL, and in none of that, absolutely none of that- except a few laughing Zig Forumsacks- is anyone who actually understands a single thing about how economics work. It's hilarious.

Under a truly Marxist, non-market economy, there is absolutely no effective way of creating nor distributing goods and services.

It's utterly ridiculous. Utterly unworkable. It's pure autistic magic, right up there with Chris-Chan's belief in dimensional merging. People will just make stuff and build things and do things in the absence of personal profit (or a commissar with a gun to their heads) because, uh… because the people will be making decisions about what everyone needs, and then the people will decide what to do! It totally works, shut up Nazi!

Marxist "thought" can't even be counted as thought. It's the apelike gibberish of lifelong drug addicts.

Nicholas Anderson
Nicholas Anderson

Was about to say, you are not very coherent there bud.
It all surges from the fact that you have a very materialist view of the world, devoided of true spiritualism and meaning. Both the capitalist and the communist world are meaningless, and develop only towards even greater nihilism and apathy, because these 2 doctrines are the extremes of the horseshoe.
Till you understand how to pick the best and ditch the worst you will forever oscillate between these 2.
Nothing of value will ever come from a materialistic state/world , just look at USSR heritage.
You have to rise above, fellow human being, do yourself a favor: leave the fear behind

Nolan Scott
Nolan Scott

then make some money nigga

Nathan Lewis
Nathan Lewis

you got that right, why don't people get wealth is create, by individuals, and if those individuals did not exist in the first place, you wouldn't have that wealth they added to the world to begin with. By creating jobs you have created wealth for the world, poor people are usually fucking borderline retarded and don't know how to run a business so they're lucky they get what they do.

Justin Anderson
Justin Anderson

I left my fear behind when i read Marx. I used to browse Zig Forums. I was afraid of Communism. Now frustration consumes me. Still better than believing that constant atomization is utopia, though.
then make some money nigga
Fuck money. I hate money.
I'm taking a break. I'll be back later i suppose.

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John Watson
John Watson

if you hate money so much why do you want to put a gun to people's heads and take it from them?

Jacob Brooks
Jacob Brooks

if you aren't a marxist then you are a capitalist
So I guess anarchists are capitalists? You straight up cannot comprehend what I'm fucking saying to you and it's embarrassing.
It's not about equality for Communists. It's about who owns the majority of the wealth and who doesn't.
So it's about equality you're just too much of a pussy to own up to your own dogma, because if it's about who owns "the majority of wealth" then it's about equally distributing it as well, otherwise marxism has no point.
Let me repeat but in red text:
Nobody here is a capitalist. You cannot comprehend that there are ways of thinking that understand your train of thought and transcend it. You've been synthesized nigger. Communism and capitalism are both dead, national socialism and race-based political systems are forever superior to ones obsessed with "equality" and the distribution (hoarding or forcibly distributing) of money. You cowards formed your own board because you cannot engage with us, and the few of you who do engage in the most superficial and pretentious manner and it shows. This thread is proof that you refuse to listen to the points being put forth, you close your ears and continue to blindly boast of your outdated point of view. As long some of it gets in your thick skull, that will suffice.

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Noah Baker
Noah Baker

He wants to play Robin Hood for people who can't even get along.

Jacob Rodriguez
Jacob Rodriguez

money is bad
I want to take wealthy peoples money by force
"I'm poor and dumb, my inability to accrue capital will magically be solved once I take someone elses money who was constantly investing in industry to create further wealth so people like me can work"

Adrian Richardson
Adrian Richardson

poverty is a choice, I left all my old friends to start my vending machine business, there all still drinking and drugging. We all have choices.

Jayden Ward
Jayden Ward

I don't care if you think it's a choice or not. All I know is that non-whites need to be exterminated.

Wyatt Morales
Wyatt Morales

that's cool fag lmao

Luke Hughes
Luke Hughes

how much pussy do you get with that line

Zachary Scott
Zachary Scott

talking politics with women

Samuel Cook
Samuel Cook

lmao, good one, well have fun wanting to kill 9/10ths of the planet, this convo is kind of done

Thomas Baker
Thomas Baker

this convo is kind of done
What conversation?

Adrian Anderson
Adrian Anderson

I struggle like a lunatic daily for less than mcdonalds wages in average 110 degree heat. I just picked up a 2nd job and started a small business. It's a god damned choice. I work four times harder than the next guy so my life is gonna be four times better. It's that simple. No, I don't want to be taxed to keep homeless people alive who cannot survive in this world so they can breed and teach there kids the same principles. Leave me be

David Murphy
David Murphy

I work four times harder than the next guy so my life is gonna be four times better.
kek whatever makes you happy wagecuck.
And sage shit threads.

Gavin Campbell
Gavin Campbell

I'm back.
Money is worthless. It is labor and the MOP which create value.
There's no need to take other peoples' money if you just switch currencies :^)
Anarchists aren't Capitalists by nature. Still, that doesn't mean i like them. If you don't support the destruction of fiat currency, non-democratic workplaces, and the seizure of privatized means of production, you're a Capitalist.
I work four times harder than the next guy so my life is gonna be four times better
<still only gets paid less than mcdonalds wages
By the way, running a business, you might be interested to know that coops are more efficient than private businesses.
thenation.com/article/worker-cooperatives-are-more-productive-than-normal-companies/

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Jackson Butler
Jackson Butler

We have China and Russia REVERTING to capitalism after some years, what are the proof that "capitalism" i.e. market will die?
It won't for the same sort of reason we're right and they're wrong.

The market is based on a simple understanding: value is what is agreed upon by two different people. Marxist thought contradicts that and intends to put an entirely different method of determining value because they want it to be that way.

You can change people's minds but you can't change people.

Market theory was developed by actually looking at what was going on. Marxist thought is another kike excuse to try escaping reality and putting themselves into power. Because value is ultimately decided by individuals, it has to be subjective to the people deciding that. Even force doesn't change that, black markets were always huge in commie countries.

Using force on an abstract concept leads to brutal but ultimately futile repression. Not happy about it, it's just true.

You can change people's behaviors but you can't change the context of how people act.

Jordan Gomez
Jordan Gomez

We could say that communism is centralized planning: hitler's economy taking a few steps more.

Isn't it obvious that only a society were production is decided in a democratic and organic way by all of it's members, will be a truly cohesive and harmonic society? And only in such a society, true spirituality can exist in a massive way in this industrialized days.

I appreciate quite a lot white and christian communities of the USA like some extreme mormons, who take care of all of their members with love and devotion, who have a deep sense of community. What a marxist believe is the following: not ANY form of deep community can properly exist in a sustained way in capitalism. Capitalism erases culture in the name of profit, it erases borders and communities, it also erases race. That's it's tendency. Even if you try to stop it with SocDem (pretty much what nazism was), it will eventually either collapse or it will provoke the fall of the system. A globalized market system needs to have mobility and flexibility.

I don't give a fuck at this point about sexual liberation or any of this things. I think that if a community wants to preserve itself as white it's okay with me. As a marxist, the only think I care about is the fall of this system, so members of a society and community can organically decide their faith, and their future is not up "the market" decisions. Centralized planning is the only tool that allows a community to implement their own will in an organic way.

Good luck when the next time the economy crashes because the wealthiest people in the world decided to speculate in Wall Street and fuck up the economy. I guess it will also be your fault then?

Xavier Russell
Xavier Russell

there is no objective value
the value of things must be determined by the usage of prices
What if the price of one thing is equal to a certain quantity of another thing, though? Doesn't that eliminate the necessity for a currency to determine price? What about digital markets wherein real currency isn't even used?

Jack Reed
Jack Reed

more like develop passive income then never work again in three years cuck.

Alexander Ward
Alexander Ward

I just don't want to dodge out on my boss during busy season because I'm that type of dude lol. Yeah trust me I know, labor is fucked, that's why I get vending machines out, gonna buy property to grow crops, etc until I don't have to work essentially.

Charles Turner
Charles Turner

no I believe in loans which is why bubbles are even created in the god damned first place, everything I buy to further my wealth does not come from loans, just prior labor and saved earnings to build up passive income.

Elijah Hughes
Elijah Hughes

nah that shit is just as fucked, loans create bubbles and labor creates value, the whole speculation economy is another ((tactic)) to keep us all from making real value and invest in bullshit like "stocks" and 401ks. If we as a people started investing in manufacturing and real wealth creating jobs instead of listening to ((the bankers)) and investing all our extra money in stock accounts and "retirement" funds that make hedge funds richer we'd all start doing a lot better.

Justin Murphy
Justin Murphy

investing at all
You're not very good at being "against capitalism" are you?

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Jason Harris
Jason Harris

who the fuck said I was against capitalism lmao.

Yeah it has it's down falls but my community where I grew up had no community, what do I fucking do, I have no compassion for these monkeys I had to grow up around.

Benjamin James
Benjamin James

I mean NatSoc is probably the best solution but for the time being most of them want me dead because I'm only half white. so what is a viable solution?

Matthew Diaz
Matthew Diaz

What if i told you that the reason the area you grew up in had no community is because Capitalism has killed communities in general and "atomized" you to make you more subservient?
NatSocs will never want half-breeds. You're not going to find support with anyone except Capitalists or Communists.

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James Jenkins
James Jenkins

exactly dumb fag so I'm capitalist, communists are the absolute worst, and the other side wants me dead, you give people like me no option, yeah my dumb ass white mom fucked an idiot beaner, I still agree das juuden is the world's biggest threat and I'm well aware if jews never hopped up on our shores I would be full white. Guess they got what they wanted, another would be ally turn to capitalism instead of the white cause. Good luck boys.

Matthew Moore
Matthew Moore

guess nazis were right then… half-breeds are truly low IQ.

Levi Murphy
Levi Murphy

Go ahead and support Capitalism. Fuck it - you'd never be of any use anyways. Just remember that your bourgeois class will exterminate you once they have no use for the cheap labor you are forced to provide.

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Jacob James
Jacob James

I mean yeah blah blah blah I'm smarter than all my white family by leaps and bounds.

You guys are literally saying I have no choice, I want to support what you guys do but according to you I'm not allowed too. What the actual FUCK do you suggest I support. You are literally sitting here calling me low IQ but then giving me zero options.

Jeremiah Bailey
Jeremiah Bailey

I'm with my full white girlfriend to purge this shit out of my bloodline trust me but I know it makes you guys mad knowing that. LOL give me like two generations I'll purge it out

Logan Jenkins
Logan Jenkins

You're a lower caste.

Oliver White
Oliver White

yeah but am I allowed to chill as some sort of indentured servant on the utopian white state?

Adam Foster
Adam Foster

Everyone wants half-breeds dead, especially whatever nigger tribe you're related to. The capitalists and communists will simply try to profit from you genetic scum before your miserable death, either from unchecked nigger violence, inborn defects, suicide, or terminal illnesses from your degenerate diet of processed gruel

Cooper Collins
Cooper Collins

lol im half mexican man not nigger. Yeah that side of the family doesn't talk to me much. I refused to learn there disgusting culture and language when I was forced to visit.

I just hate that I have to team up with the soul-less capitalists because yall want me dead, but at least I know where my allegiance is, everyone have fun with the game it's about to get hectic.

Jaxson Sullivan
Jaxson Sullivan

implying the rampant globalization of capital will allow the existence of a utopian white state
You don't actually think that the jews are the sole reason why mass immigration is so popular right now, do you?
Here's the secret behind importing immigrants - it's profitable. As long as it stays profitable to hire foreigners rather than countrymen, it'll only get worse.

Noah James
Noah James

chill out… just trying to trigger you and your beliefs.

No, we don't want you dead. You do have a place among communists, just like anyone who supports the cause has.

See:

zigforums.com/thread/2906179/right-politics

Hunter Nguyen
Hunter Nguyen

Yes brother I do understand, and I was referring to NatSoc as the white utopia not full blown capitalism which eventually become a race to the bottom.

That's why we need that fucking wall, my white, christian boss has two fucking immigrants working in the art for TWELVE dollars an hour because there willing to do it.

Trust me I'm well aware of the destruction of wages due to immigration. We need companies to bid for labor, not laborers bidding for work, and once we get rid of the liberal scourge american labor will start booming again.

Christian Nguyen
Christian Nguyen

Your ape-like ancestors were so fucking stupid, they couldn't invent a wheel until some half-arab spaniards raped a few scraps of human DNA into your shit-colored grandmother; time to accept that you are a nigger, nigger.

Charles Allen
Charles Allen

Problem is, the capitalist Trump won't likely build the wall. Instead, his only achievement is the fantastic and marvelous stock market that benefits no one but a few.

Capitalists are not your friends. Not jew capitalists, and not white capitalists.

Kevin Sanders
Kevin Sanders

ok but are you accomplishing anything right now or are you artificially bolstering your own un-deserved ego.

Isaac Adams
Isaac Adams

wow that hit home, yes, my best friend's father has a poster of Hitler in his closet and they are full white and tell me of course I can be a part of the white utopia, but I know it won't be so if it really comes down to it.

I hate to think because of the location I'm born in is such a huge factor in what I believe, man there's gotta be something that works for everyone.

Connor Cooper
Connor Cooper

This is an anonymous message board. If you want personal blogs, go to nosebook. In the meantime, accept that you are a nigger that has no place in any civilization. You are essentially a destructive mutant, a quasi-sapient cancer cell, a virus-filled bacterium on the ass of the world.

Chase Collins
Chase Collins

god quit being a faggot, holyyyyyyy shit.

I get it bro you've never accomplished a thing in your entire life so you need to piggyback on other whites that aren't you to feel good about yourself, it's a little fucking sad but I still wish you the best.

Anthony Davis
Anthony Davis

there's gotta be something that works for everyone

there is. Keep browsing that board and you'll find out.

But if you actually want respect you got to deserve it. Get your shit together, read a fucking book and do some work. Otherwise, you will actually be a low IQ half-breed who browses imageboards all day.

Jeremiah Myers
Jeremiah Myers

ok friends, I'll figure it out eventually

Matthew Gutierrez
Matthew Gutierrez

Still, that doesn't mean i like them.
I wasn't talking about what you like faggot, nobody cares what you like.

Elijah Gomez
Elijah Gomez

ok and do they care what you like? god damn you sound like the biggest loser on planet earth.

Adam Peterson
Adam Peterson

Seriously, how do I explain how blacks evolved differently from whites and blacks in their respective conditions?

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Joshua Ward
Joshua Ward

What if the price of one thing is equal to a certain quantity of another thing, though? Doesn't that eliminate the necessity for a currency to determine price? What about digital markets wherein real currency isn't even used?

What the hell are you talking about? The point of currency is to represent value. It's an object representing the subjective value of something, decided by a majority of people through market forces. It's a standardized method of exchange. Digital currency actually speaks to the entire idea that value is indeed subjective.

To put it another way: How many chickens is 1 cow worth? Rather than bending ourselves over in every exchange, agreeing upon a standard stimulates exchange of value which then lays the basis for complex society. It's a heuristic, essentially. That isn't saying it's perfect or immune from influence, but a stable currency is the basis of a stable society. How do you not know this? All of this is literal Econ 101.

Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

this is like a poor person trying to explain why he is poor "NAH, Its not cuz i spend all my spare money on drugs and all my spare time in front of a tv instead of learning how to be useful to other people, its cuz rich people aint giving me everything i want!"

Ryan Baker
Ryan Baker

… and they wonder why white people are generally so anti-communist. You're admitting you just want a system that forces us to live with you even though we don't want to.

When it comes down to it, that's it. Nobody would care if you stuck to your own.
<I-it's not our fault, we were born here!
Then it's your parents fault, but they're did the exact same thing you want to do, force us to live around you.
<Who cares? We're all just people, maaaaaan
I had to live in a mixed race neighborhood and go to mixed race schools. Niggers and spics always grouped up and always went after us, we were always having to defend ourselves in a way that we don't have to around our own. I just want to be left alone but people like you have this urge to intrude.

We leave, you follow. Then you have the fucking audacity to complain about us. You're like the needy girl that whines about our indifference and jabs whenever possible only to cry when we say fuck off. You're the racial equivalent of Tsundere.

It's always either "white flight" or "colonization".
<Help us! We're too retarded to make functioning societies
<Fuck you whitey, don't tell us to stop ritual murder, it's a key part of our stupid, backward society

No wonder the colonists and settlers just decided to stop giving a shit and got rid of the Indians. We've seen it all before.

James Moore
James Moore

post made specifically to elicit a sense of guilt or empathy on Zig Forums when /leftypol/ wouldn't feel the slightest twinge of guilt over wanting to erase fascists or national socialists

Xavier Fisher
Xavier Fisher

Yes, multiple ethnic groups uniting under a Reich to oust the jewish bankers from their nations.
It was a beautiful thing.
Is that supposed to be a gotcha? Cause that's news to no one here.

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Wyatt Foster
Wyatt Foster

You don't seem to understand.

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Charles Rogers
Charles Rogers

wait until the niggers in the USA become nazis, then you kikes are really in for it

it's coming, fast

Austin Sanchez
Austin Sanchez

Haskell
Commies can have that irrelevant language. Rust is for the serious nigger/kike/fag haters.

Dylan Gutierrez
Dylan Gutierrez

The biggest problem with upper-class bourgeois communists is the insane social agenda they want to push, that massively deteriorates quality of life for the working class. Fag acceptance/promotion, "civil rights" (aka removal of white civil rights), forcing people to live around niggers, tranny acceptance/promotion, fat acceptance/promotion, policing of speech, disarming the population, etc. The working class hates all of that shit. It makes our lives worse. But communists today support it anyways.

See that was the difference between pure jewish communism (what we have today) and Stalinist communism. Stalin took Trotskyite jewish communism and stripped out all the retarded horrible social agendas. He didn't strip out the full retard economics, so it eventually collapsed. But he did get rid of the crazy social agendas, so Russians were willing to tolerate it and not rise up in rebellion against it. The conflict between Germany and the USSR was not over political ideology but over much older geostrategic reasons and some personal preferences: Russia wanted its old imperial territories back, including Bessarabia and the rest of Finland, and while Hitler had no particular issue with some of their goals like the Baltics or eastern Poland, he wasn't willing to screw over the Romanians, who he considered loyal friends, or the Finns, so both USSR and Germany massed troops on the border in Poland and prepared for war. Ideology played no part in it beyond war propaganda for both sides, it was played up as a reason to fight but neither of them had it as their core motivation and in Germany's case it was fairly outdated as most of the communists' objectionable practices had been done away with when Stalin kicked out the trots/jews. The East German government after the war was composed mainly of former members of Hitler's administration and carried on with many National Socialist policies such as housing loans for couples forgiven as they had children to keep birth rates up, which makes it pretty clear that apart from having retard economics, Stalin's USSR wasn't that different from Germany.

(((Trotsky))) on the other hand got a fucking icepick shoved in his head and the same is due for all the poz-pushing "communist" leftist fags if a proletarian revolution ever takes place in the west, because the actual working class loathes the poz and would happily execute everyone who's trying to push it on society. We'd rather have strong unions in a market economy than live in a command economy but if we'd end up having to live in a command economy anyways at least we'd do it without fags and white guilt shit.

Charles Fisher
Charles Fisher

This, though Stalin was still a cunt. There’s a reason so many Ukrainians supported the Germans.

Nolan Perry
Nolan Perry

Again this was a continuation of older Russian policy. It's important to remember that for all the commie propaganda claiming anti-Imperialism, the USSR was pretty much just the Russian Empire with a new coat of paint, and this included anti-Ukrainian policies. Obviously having a bunch of NKVD jews in charge of the Ukraine escalated it from language suppression and attempted Russification to outright genocide, but the whole "opposition to the existence of a Ukrainian people distinct from Russians" goes way back to the Empire.

Brody Rogers
Brody Rogers

Why does every faggot in that thread start with their fucking life story?
This, and yet at the same time they think they believe " individualism and materialism are sociopathic ideals" – go figure.
That /leftypol/ thread is the evidence they are mentally ill/challenged/retarded. They can't even see through their own contradictions.

Asher Lopez
Asher Lopez

Also, they engage in plenty of copy-pasta "discussion" to the point where you can just consider them to be bots instead

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Luke Murphy
Luke Murphy

On a sidenote, I would recommend Anons to try to see what shill material they can find using the search function on 4plebs. Occasionally I go there to see what shills are up to and most times I can find some really good examples of very obvious shilling. In the pics you might notice the fact that their flags tend to have a particular trend, it should be noted that after a certain period of time the shills from /leftypol/ on halfchan moved to using custom flags instead making themselves even more obvious. It would be great if I could use an archive service for fullchan but, since nobody has bothered with it for a long-ass time, instead I have to dig through archives for halfchan to find shills over here.

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Blake Johnson
Blake Johnson

This, and yet at the same time they think they believe " individualism and materialism are sociopathic ideals" – go figure.

You fucking retard, socialists are more materialists and collectivist than any of you idealist and individualist nazi niggers will ever be.

Levi Garcia
Levi Garcia

"communism is inherently anti-jewish"
"gospel music is inherently anti-christian"
"halal food is inherently anti-muslim"
"war is peace"
"freedom is slavery"
"ignorance is strength"

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Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

I believed that communism was a Jewish idea, but how do you explain the fact that the Communists in Russia and other Soviet Republics/satellite states hated Zionists and started deporting Jews to Israel after the war?

web.ceu.hu/jewishstudies/pdf/01_krajewski.pdf

jta.org/1957/06/10/archive/stalins-plan-to-deport-all-russian-jews-confirmed-by-soviet-envoy

Henry Myers
Henry Myers

That's what communists do. After they kill everyone from the old establishment, they then purge anyone that's capable of overthrowing the new regime, including their own revolutionaries.
Bolsheviks were Soviets who later split to pursue their own manifesto. After the civil war they wanted to create state controlled capitalism so they could become the new bourgeois.
They kicked the kikes out for doing what kikes always do, subvert and destroy their host nation to enslave the goyim.
Communism is a Jewish idea, but they will never live by it, they created it to benefit the (((chosen)))

"communism is inherently anti-jewish"
user does have a point. Kikes don't want to make themselves equal to the goyim, they want to impose communism on you but never on themselves. You could say that kikes are pro-racemixing but they will never do it themselves.

Josiah Sanchez
Josiah Sanchez

this pretense of ignorance
I know that you know how politics works. Namely that the politicians 100% obey the word of their donors. You need to look to the private sector to see who is in charge, and in that case, you have already conceded that the other user has a point.
You're no better than a cuckservative who will look to leftists and socialists and reptilians and aliens and illuminati, ANYTHING to deflect the blame from his precious, precious jews. You are not a smidgen better than a conservative. Yet worse, you're at best, the mirror image of a Qtard.

Brody Howard
Brody Howard

Very simple chain of events, it's not that hard to comprehend or recreate.
Indo-Europeans and other Proto-Europeans come together in Europe
live in cold, harsh climate where natural resources are scarce
food doesn't grow on trees, if you don't plan ahead, grow crops in large amounts to last through the winter, you simply starve to death
everyone who is retarded and short-sighted like a nigger starves to death, nature has selected them out
forged in said climate, Europeans become increasingly keen on long-term thinking
as they evolve in that direction, biologically, they also develop cultures/environmental frameworks that reflect that, like codes of law that get you killed if you disobey them
criminals and short-term thinkers aka nigger tier Whites are removed from the gene pool, while the rest can further prosper
through environmental framework that reflects evolutionary change, further selection through it further enhances said evolutionary change
as time goes on, scarcity of natural resources, cold and strictly enforced laws, Europeans naturally become more and more intelligent and their behaviour more far-sighted

Meanwhile in Africa
proto-niggers live in middle Africa surrounded by a plentitude of other ethnic groups
warm environment, very very rich in natural resources, food literally grows on trees and more than enough of it to live off of it
the only selecting factor is large wildlife that kills you if you don't run away fast enough, environment selects them to be good at/keen on running away and nothing else
no need to plan ahead, there is always food
in case of overpopulation due to previous plentitude of natural resources, planning ahead as needed in Europe can just be supplanted and replaced through natural regulation via killing and eating one another, aka cannibalism
so instead of being long-term thinkers, they evolved to be more open to cannibalism
combination of environment and each other leads to social environment where whoever is the most cowardly and the most ruthless/willing to kill his neighbour wins out on an evolutionary level
meanwhile the ethnic groups that surround the niggers of today, are all comparably more docile
niggers spread, kill and replace surrounding ethnic groups, until only niggers are left in Africa

Ta-da. All the factors you need to understand why niggers are the way they are, and why Whites are the way they are. A little side note, those other ethnic groups that the niggers of today genocided over the millennia, the Khoi in South Africa are one of the last surviving ones that they haven't genocided yet. So that mythical 'noble savage' you keep hearing about in jewish fiction and look for in murderers and cannibals, the khoi are it. The niggers are not.

John King
John King

Addendum: In case that wasn't obvious enough relating to your question and your pic, as a result of how they evolved, niggers have always just been so retarded that they never developed what is necessary (like mining equipment for instance or the infrastructure and facilities necessary to make anything useful of what they mine) to tap into their own natural resources. They were colonized and others tapped into those in their stead, not because of how virtuous they are like they tend to claim, but because while Whites and Asians improved upon themselves over time, niggers spent thousands upon thousands of years doing nothing but killing and eating each other. Or taking each other prisoner to sell each other as slaves to sandniggers.

Jayden Miller
Jayden Miller

Jews in fact are not a hivemind

Evan Allen
Evan Allen

That's why they collectively work for open borders, make all criticism of jews illegal and put out 2 to 3 holocaust movies per year to reinforce the brainwashing….because they don't act as a hive mind….

Jack Howard
Jack Howard

Just because they were antizionist doesn't mean that they were anti semitic.
Francis P. Yockey made this mistake as well.
The soviet republics just saw Zionists as a fifth column and as a potential pro-American bloc. (America being their biggest backers and allies)

Zachary Cruz
Zachary Cruz

It is more like a discoball of fireflies.

Zachary Robinson
Zachary Robinson

Francis P. Yockey
That is really deep minded.

Gabriel Scott
Gabriel Scott

A spare arrow.

Adam Thomas
Adam Thomas

race doesn't exist
but 892 make-up (((genders))) do
kill yourself

Zachary White
Zachary White

that's why it is called /trannypol/.
It is a cult founded by mentally ill faggots that raided Zig Forums and had no effect whatsoever, so in their frustration made a safe-space for a cult based entirely around Zig Forums.
Can you imagine someone making /rightypol/, how pathetic and ridiculous that sounds.
Any time you spend reading any of their deranged dogshit is like taste-testing bags of blood at an aids-factory.

Lincoln Gomez
Lincoln Gomez

haha accurate
haven't seen a better description than that

Nicholas Perez
Nicholas Perez

Quality old school post.
Reminder that this used to be the norm until several years ago.

Evan Johnson
Evan Johnson

t.(((jew)))

Joseph Lee
Joseph Lee

ask self absorbed, narcissistic retards a question about themselves
700+ answers
Socialism has two causes: envy and desire to be taken care of. Everything else is just a way to avoid admitting that.

Leo Reed
Leo Reed

hurr durr only make children
You ignore the spiritual side.

Zachary Fisher
Zachary Fisher

Luxury items which make life easier aid in the goal of reproduction by creating free time, reducing stress, and generally making living less risky.

nonsense, read up on hunter gatherers

Mason Hall
Mason Hall

And then you see the beta male shit of today. But since it is unavoidable, we need to a way to find a way to exploit them.

Lucas Ward
Lucas Ward

forsake reproduction/ethnic propagation for the sake of arbitrary spiritualism
You're no better than a commie who forsakes it for the sake of 'equality'. That's just their brand of spiritualism and you have yours. If you're not reproducing, it doesn't matter how clean your spirit is, because those of everyone who exists after you will be nothing like you, and thus will make no efforts to pursue the same ideals as you do.

Jaxson Howard
Jaxson Howard

The problem being- I don't care how they think or feel because at the end of the day it's pointless. I can't reason with beings that don't operate on reason beyond simple instinct and instruction. Just as I don't care how rats think or feel about me hiring an exterminator, I care that rats have invaded my home and are causing damage and shitting everywhere. Do I hate the rats? Do I ruminate about the rats and their daily lives? Fuck no- I just want the rats out. You don't ask vermin nicely to leave because it won't fucking work. It will never fucking work. You drive them out by any means or method that does work.

To elaborate, I feel this way because their entire fucking belief structure crumbles if you dare give it one minute of unbroken thought or reflection.
None of this is hyperbole at this point, this is the average web of belief that clogs up the skullspace where a brain normally would be- Are you ready?

Corporations and politicians have ruined the world, so I will do whatever they tell me to do and defend everything they do. We should abolish private property but private companies can do whatever they want to unless I was told it was bad then they need to do what I say. Freedom of speech is important for what I have to say and bad for what you have to say. We need more workers rights and unions but I want to get people I don't like fired because I don't like them. We need higher wages so let people in who will work for less. Racism is bad so we should always judge everyone based on race. Personal freedom is important and no one should be free to say or do things without my approval. Violence is bad in our entertainment but acceptable against real people. Sex positivity is good except when it's not. Gender is a social construct and masculinity and femininity are binary and not real so you need the hormones and parts to match the binary gender you feel like. No one should have weapons to defend themselves and instead should leave their protection up to the police. The police are all untrustworthy racist murderers who you should never call . Men should be able to show their emotions without judgement so we can judge them as angry unstable or pathetic. Women should feel empowered and be free to speak unless it's something we don't like. War is bad always so I support people who want to start a war. The media lies to you so always trust the media. Minorities are silenced which is why I talk over them. Poor people need to be helepd respected and given an education you would know this if you weren't poor and uneducated.

TL;DR There is nothing they believe that doesn't fall apart at the seams if you objectively think about it for even the smallest fragment of time.
But they don't and won't and are physically incapable of doing so. You can't elevate them up- So you have to take them down. Whether it be financially, socially or eventually- physically.

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Ethan Perry
Ethan Perry

You absolutely should understand your enemy. I watched a right wing activist trip over arguments for free medical care. Many on the right are unaware that concievably all 50 states have laws requiring hospitals to never deny emergency care. It's the hospitals that want State insurance so they know they have a bill to send to because of all the illegal aliens walking away on their thier hospital bills. What do you say when lefties argue that police and firefighters are run by the state so why not hospitals. I would argue that maybe we'd have less brush fires if we went back to volunteer fire fighter system. Hospitals used to be run by Churches and private doctor's used to show up at your house. Maybe things are too centralized and regulated.
If I want to pay for Dr. Pepper with a degree from hamburger University to write me a prescription, who's business is it of them. Lefties love government. They see it as their savior for every ill. The right does not always argue well for small government themes.

Juan Clark
Juan Clark

arguing with commie kikes.
Have you learned nothing during your time here?

Noah Ortiz
Noah Ortiz

Did you even read it? They removed comments with opposing views. That should be a red flag for you.

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Leo Perez
Leo Perez

I know right? It almost sounds like they are trying to spite themselves with the shit they are saying.

Gabriel Sanchez
Gabriel Sanchez

That picture just gave me a hard on.

Anthony Wilson
Anthony Wilson

The jews abandoned communism because it wasn’t working. They are mostly cultural marxist now. If you need proof just check their names/ancestry.

Jacob Allen
Jacob Allen

Race & mentality are not separate.

Kayden Thompson
Kayden Thompson

Your underlying unexamined assumption is fundamental equality. But there is no fundamental equality. Environment is a factor, sure but genetics is the foundation.
That is the primary reason most mud peoples countries are something they wish to escape, and why no matter how far they go wherever they end up in sufficient numbers their environment is formed by their actions to resemble the home they wished to avoid. They bring it with them.
Stop making excuses for them.

Lucas Johnson
Lucas Johnson

Good post.

William Jackson
William Jackson

National Socialism IS the good fight.
But you aren’t capable or worthy of being one.

Julian Collins
Julian Collins

my wife’s son.
the post.
Lol, faggot.

Liam Baker
Liam Baker

That pic
But the child soldiers fought better than the soviet 'men'. . .

Matthew Phillips
Matthew Phillips

Base your worldview on something with actual impact on your life.
Like the rape and murder of my people in a deliberate process of white genocide, for instance?
What is 'replacement migration'?
archive.is/YH9cY

Austin Peterson
Austin Peterson

The definition of absolute physical, psychological & philosophical failure:

To have all the power, time, resources, manpower & space you needed to to manifest your world view and fail not by being destroyed by massive external force but by the inherent incompatibility of your world view with reality.

Must hurt.

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Jack Lewis
Jack Lewis

Without fundamental equality marxisism and all its derivatives are impossible.
Discuss.

Jason Garcia
Jason Garcia

Culture is not inherently racial. It adapts to material conditions
Correct.
But this happens over time in a process of selection, either natural or social and its imprint is left in our genes. This is called evolution.
to argue that Africans are lazy because they're Africans ignores the abundance of resources that Africa contains.
What genetic predispositions would this select for over time?
Poor forward planning & low impulse control because they don’t need to plan ahead for months of the year when little food is available in the environment?
What impact do you think this would have on family structure, especially paternal investment?
If resources are more easily available would women require a strong support network to hunt, gather or farm to gather enough food & build/maintain enough shelter to survive the winters?
What impact do you think this would have on culture over time?
Would i select for great civilisations or loose tribal villages?
Why do niggers still behave like niggers?
Why did Rhodesia become Zimbabwe?
Why is south Africa going the same way?
Why is -insert nigger zone here- like that?
Culture is ultimately a racial construct.

James Jones
James Jones

Capitalism was more successful than Feudalism, and Feudalism was more successful than tribal societies. Since history is dialectical, Capitalism needs to be abolished. It's had long enough to develop the productive forces. It's as simple as that, really. No experiment lasts forever.
But marxism has done even worse than capitalism so i guess is needs to go too?
National Socialism, however, worked brilliantly and only ended through the application of overwhelming external force.

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Hudson Bailey
Hudson Bailey

I'm just here to kill jews

Lincoln Gomez
Lincoln Gomez

Fundamental equality does not exist.
Nor should it.

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Hudson Powell
Hudson Powell

Why?

Kayden Anderson
Kayden Anderson

Isn't it obvious that only a society were production is decided in a democratic and organic way by all of it's members

You are assuming fundamental equality.
But that does not exist.

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

War justifies itself. War is not the means but the ends, and victory is peace. History has provided us all with the gracious opportunity to prove ourselves in combat with Judea. The last wars will look like backyward scraps.

Leo Gonzalez
Leo Gonzalez

we don't want you dead
But you will in your pursuit of the systems of oppression that perpetuate inequality. You cant help it.

Jose Gutierrez
Jose Gutierrez

Fair enough.

Brayden Parker
Brayden Parker

The jew is unified by fear & greed.
The jew leadership exploits this.
Eg; using the holocaust industry to keep the average yid on the shtetl supporting israel etc…

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Jaxson Fisher
Jaxson Fisher

If you support white nationalism, white nationalism supports you. You have white genes. As long as you mean to assimilate there is no problem whatsoever. Just a reminder though: you do not want to pick the wrong side in this. There will be not mercy and no pity in this war for existence.

Austin Bell
Austin Bell

Wait, isn't all it takes to acquire a hukou, passing the entrance exam of a university?

Blake Smith
Blake Smith

Jews creates communism because they saw that a whole, they could do better in the system.

Lavrentiy Beria is the perfect example of this
He didnt need to own a large amount of assets or banks, as he owned the country
He had his fill of teenage girls to rape, the best caviar and wines and servants and the best seat at the bolshoi ballet.

Communisn is a great system if you can Jew you way to the elites, and the top party members were predominantly Jews…coincidence?

(sac)rebleu

Bentley Watson
Bentley Watson

, they could do better in the system
As the system was in eastern Europe at the end of the 19th cent

Andrew Sanders
Andrew Sanders

Communism is inherently anti-jewish,
Do I have some bad news for you friend.

Leo Robinson
Leo Robinson

You didn't need to be a National Socialist in order to join the SS, in fact if you first joined the SS or Luftwaffe and what have you you weren't even allowed to join the party because they wanted those people to focus on training and fighting, not on politics. Most people in the Luftwaffe didn't agree with the party, but still fought for Europe and their countries, because that mattered more. Around the 30's all kinds of National Socialist parties popped out around the world, before Hitler got elected. The idea National Socialism can be applied to any race as long as they follow it.

Also stop replying to yourself, it is embarrassing.
bitchute.com/video/zD8paBebZMmi/

Nolan Allen
Nolan Allen

look at that messy room. obviously never heard of JBP

Matthew Adams
Matthew Adams

plight of the workers
When were these rat leftists ever concerned with the plight of the workers? They're on the front lines daily attacking white workers, who are basically the backbone of US natural gas, oil, logging etc. They do everything in their power to weaken the strength of workers by demanding open borders. Leftists are sub-human garbage.

Luke Thomas
Luke Thomas

Communism is inherently anti-jewish
Communism is literally a jewish construct you dumb fucking nigger.

Elijah Miller
Elijah Miller

China grew to become the second world superpower
No, the socialistic expansion of government powers in the US, giving the government the power to impact the market, gave corporations the ability to sway policy and export industry to China. China isn't a superpower, they're a labor colony. China has zero means of projecting power. It can't even win a trade war with us because it's dependent on us.

Aaron Parker
Aaron Parker

Reminds me of the party openly pushing marxist socialism right now. Where are all the jews in US politics? The democrat part. Three democrat jews on the supreme court. Countless democrat jewish judges. Democrat jewish politicians. The entirety of left-wing media is owned by jews, supports democrats, and hires a larger percentage of jews. I've been saying it for a while, the democrat party is the chosen party to introduce bolshevism to the US. Diversity was a means to that end. Anyone supporting marxism is sub-human filth.

Michael Peterson
Michael Peterson

Communism won't be replacing anything. The only thing communism does well is implement a system to oppress a popular, genocide them at will, and take the wealth of the nation and give it to a small ruling elite. Also "capitalism" doesn't exist. It's a little made up word by a communist kike. A word describing a dead system from 150 years ago. A system that died with technological advancement. A system which was replaced with a better one, and that system was then killed with corporatism, which came about thanks to left-wing sub-humans like you expanding government powers.

Kayden Jones
Kayden Jones

a popular
population*

Jace Gonzalez
Jace Gonzalez

LMFAO SPOT FUCKING ON I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING

THEY'RE A BUNCH OF NPC ROBOTS TRYING TO SOUND INTELLIGENT TO EACH OTHER

Jordan Edwards
Jordan Edwards

This is also spot on, but in a much more depressing way.

Joshua Brooks
Joshua Brooks

Christians fear their single hateful god. Thats laughable. I dont fear because I know that the norse gods love fair eyed, fair haired people.

Jeremiah Garcia
Jeremiah Garcia

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Jace Bailey
Jace Bailey

<started browsing Zig Forums over 10 years ago
Zig Forums in 2009
Nigger, you glow in the dark.

Lincoln Harris
Lincoln Harris

Leftypol isn't the enemy

Antifa-type retards hate them almost as much as they hate us.

Ayden Carter
Ayden Carter

I want to protect my nation but I don't want the government doing it!
Grow up amerimutt. A strong state means strong protection. The BLOOD is the guarantee it will not turn tyrannical. No piece of paper can withstand evil, as your defunct Constitution is proof of.

Christopher Martinez
Christopher Martinez

/leftypol/ is the enemy.
They are retarded commies who want us dead, because we were not stupid to fall in the same kike traps they fell.
Fuck off back to your cringy gulag, you fag.