OC Thread 3.0

Wyatt Lee
Wyatt Lee

OC Thread 3.0
I suppose we should establish a new thread dedicated to Zig Forums original content.
Feel free to post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you would like to share.
Or, collaborate on improving content within this thread.

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Benjamin Long
Benjamin Long

Drawing of Josip Broz Tito Made by a friend of mine.

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Lincoln James
Lincoln James

Japanese ☭TANKIE☭.

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Joseph Gray
Joseph Gray

Nice.

Joshua Ward
Joshua Ward

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Nathan Howard
Nathan Howard

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Jace Morris
Jace Morris

2294914

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Jeremiah Cruz
Jeremiah Cruz

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Nolan Richardson
Nolan Richardson

suddenly money is important and what you can judge an entire nation by
ignore those state funded gulags
Commies will literally say anything.

Landon Wright
Landon Wright

That image is a troll. Nobody here believes in the "good times create weak men" bs.

Ian Campbell
Ian Campbell

2276131
That color palette is pretty bad. Play around with this first: paletton.com/

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Joshua Lopez
Joshua Lopez

i cri evrytiem

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Daniel Morris
Daniel Morris

2273373

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Evan Howard
Evan Howard

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Krita. It's basically a FOSS photoshop clone.

Jackson Howard
Jackson Howard

2264117
get the fuk ourt pedoo

Daniel Stewart
Daniel Stewart

no, it's more a painting tool

Jeremiah Jackson
Jeremiah Jackson

An edit

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Lincoln Foster
Lincoln Foster

His Little Red Book really has a lot of Oriental sage-style quotes for memes like that.

Nicholas Murphy
Nicholas Murphy

That's fucking cute AF yo.

Justin Collins
Justin Collins

2280368
Yare Yare, daze

Joshua Ross
Joshua Ross

Where's her dick?

James Williams
James Williams

2280368

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Ethan White
Ethan White

shitty last minute stirner meme i made

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Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

2280637
someone shop this and put a hammer and sickle on it

Ayden Clark
Ayden Clark

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Angel Lee
Angel Lee

eh?

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Thomas Brown
Thomas Brown

Leftypol personality test:
Q1. Fuck the police? Y/N
Q2. Is western democracy 'imperialist'? Y/N

Personality types:
Q1:Y,Q2:Y; cultural 'marxist'
Q1:Y,Q2:N; 'anarcho'-liberal
Q1:N,Q2:Y; 'marxist'-leninist
Q1:N,Q2:N; 'anarcho'-capitalist

Ian Hill
Ian Hill

Post it on the draw thread
It needs to be revived!

Jeremiah Cox
Jeremiah Cox

hannibal buress is nazbol gang

Hunter Morris
Hunter Morris

2265012
this is a good maymay

James Hughes
James Hughes

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Jackson Walker
Jackson Walker

Cut outs

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Luke James
Luke James

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Nolan Garcia
Nolan Garcia

requesting an anti-horny action emblem with the following for the flags

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Gavin Cooper
Gavin Cooper

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Ian Davis
Ian Davis

2264117
when did you guys get a harpy?

Joshua Cox
Joshua Cox

Any eco-socialists, Green types, etc. here?
This came out of Twitter recently. There isn't much content yet for it, though. Originally it was a flat earth meme, funny idea too, but I think some "Earth-chan is dying from pollution" type memes would be good as well. There are a few, but as you might notice they are scarce or poor quality.
Any content creators here want to pitch in?

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Wyatt Evans
Wyatt Evans

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Ian Collins
Ian Collins

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Joshua Brooks
Joshua Brooks

Cute

Oliver Morris
Oliver Morris

Leftcom

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Ryder Morales
Ryder Morales

Stop poisoning Earth-chan! :C

Ryder Price
Ryder Price

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Jeremiah Walker
Jeremiah Walker

Video editing software
I'm looking for video editing software, I need to add subtitles and some pictures to a video. Can you help me? I can use torrents, but my PC is shit, so I would appreciate some not too demanding shit

Camden Evans
Camden Evans

Anyone think they could get a "redeemed Dark Wojak" (pink Wojak) crying in the corner made? I feel like I'd need it for general reactions.

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Jaxson Russell
Jaxson Russell

archive.is/HbuXi

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Michael Jones
Michael Jones

Blender actually has a pretty good video editor!

Nolan Bailey
Nolan Bailey

and a built in game engine as well (at least I recall them developing it, don't know if it's actually functional)

Jackson Peterson
Jackson Peterson

Sony Vegas Pro 8 or 13, those are the two best versions imo. Use Subtitle workshop for actual subtitles, but if you just want hardcoded text then use Sony Vegas. Also I'd recommend rendering the video uncompressed and compressing it with HandBrake.

Jose Rogers
Jose Rogers

Honestly some more Dark Wojaks would be nice. Even the """normal""" (pink) ones would be nice. Seriously it feels like as soon as it exploded there hasn't been new ones made.

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

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Gabriel Adams
Gabriel Adams

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James Kelly
James Kelly

Where is "blame the rich jews in the american government"

Mason Cooper
Mason Cooper

Good concept for a meme, it just needs a nicer touch up.

Jose Taylor
Jose Taylor

kek

Christian Miller
Christian Miller

here, take these shitty Althusser memes

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Luke Adams
Luke Adams

Libertarian "Communists" with their Market "Socialism"
blame the rich
Nope. You and AnCap both blame the government.

Communists
always "Blame Americans"
Am I to interpret this as Lenin & Co secretly being AnCom?

Zachary Thomas
Zachary Thomas

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Aiden Young
Aiden Young

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Colton Mitchell
Colton Mitchell

what if i'm lower left and blame americans more often than the rich

Gabriel Anderson
Gabriel Anderson

You do realize that libertarianism came left wing Anarchists, right? Or did you fall for the American propaganda that "libertarianism" is always right wing and communism is everything the USSR does?

Joseph Hall
Joseph Hall

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Camden Morales
Camden Morales

These are terrible

Justin Anderson
Justin Anderson

Anyone have any De Leonist stuff?

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Tyler Watson
Tyler Watson

You do realize that libertarianism came left wing Anarchists, right?
No.

Or did you fall for the American propaganda that "libertarianism" is always right wing
Why is it American propaganda? Individualist "Socialism" was reactionary since 19th century at the very least. See First and Second Internationals.

David Myers
David Myers

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Grayson Sullivan
Grayson Sullivan

why is this so dead

Luke Ortiz
Luke Ortiz

kek this is actually how Israel was created

Jayden Morris
Jayden Morris

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Angel Jenkins
Angel Jenkins

Why did you retards let your moronic tranny BO be an idiot and make that shitty porno? Now all the other boards have to deal with /pol/ spamming that shit everywhere. Thanks a fucking lot.

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Evan White
Evan White

Pihsst, kiddo
THAT ISN'T THE COCKING BO

Ethan Green
Ethan Green

Pffft I'm gonna need some proof that it isn't the BO before you change MY preconceived beliefs.

Mason Hernandez
Mason Hernandez

Кек.

Michael Jenkins
Michael Jenkins

Fucking confirmed.

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Evan Phillips
Evan Phillips

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Shes a girl by cannon

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Sebastian Wood
Sebastian Wood

2280175
sqrt(-1) is an "impossible" number, still getting used by physicians and mathematicians all day

Lincoln Adams
Lincoln Adams

Guess I won't be needing these anymore now that future Comrade Leon Krautsky's in exile…

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Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

lmao you brainlet, imaginary numbers are actually used in real radio wave calculations (as well as countless other physics applications).
Negative numbers were also considered to be "unrealistic" back when they were first being used, yet now we use the concept of negative and negation for basically all physics and math. the theory borne out by experimentation.

Carson Gray
Carson Gray

don't you use the absolute value to filter out the imaginary component of the number before displaying it?

Jacob Butler
Jacob Butler

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Jayden Watson
Jayden Watson

Source material to work from. Get on it

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Jack Evans
Jack Evans

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Chase Richardson
Chase Richardson

Script for a catgirl comic: Alunya and the Alt-Right catgirl are looking pissed, they probably just had a conversation that didn't go so well. AR cat is having a cig. Anarcho-Hoxhaist catgirl runs toward them.
A-H: Omygodomygodomygodomygod have you see these leaflets and have you seen these posters and they have this event and they have this other event and they do so much and they are everywhere now and I think I'm gonna join them!
She is wildly gesticulating in all directions, it looks like she has six arms.
A-R: Join who?
A-H: P. S. L.
A-R: Pee-Ass Al. Actually, all the cool kids call them the Psyll.
Alunya: I never heard any of my friends call them that.
A-R: Exactly.
You can imagine the kind of facial expression Alunya makes in response to that. The other girl doesn't even get that Alunya got dissed, it went right over the bunker on her head.

Thomas Jackson
Thomas Jackson

I'm sure something like this exists. Inspiration and 2 seconds of MS paint

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Benjamin Edwards
Benjamin Edwards

Share this image with all your friends. It scientifically explains the superiority of soviet socialism

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Isaac Stewart
Isaac Stewart

not hoxhaism, mautism or juche

Hunter Perez
Hunter Perez

This is a fix of a previous OC:
<changed "magnified" to "amplified"
<deleted random squiggly lines
<scaled it 1:1

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Sebastian Rodriguez
Sebastian Rodriguez

proving a negative

Connor Cooper
Connor Cooper

If anybody wants to finish this…

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Landon Baker
Landon Baker

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Jackson Brown
Jackson Brown

STOP DONT FUCKING HURT HER

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Adam Richardson
Adam Richardson

meme from /pol/ edited to be Zig Forums
last pic is a template

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Landon Cox
Landon Cox

Is that per capita?

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Joseph Torres
Joseph Torres

Honestly nothing we draw will be more macabre than the photograph itself.

Grayson Collins
Grayson Collins

The thought of those two things fucking makes me sick.

Nolan White
Nolan White

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Jason Diaz
Jason Diaz

this
the original photo is disgusting

Leo Johnson
Leo Johnson

macabre
there is only one place on the internet that uses that…

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Matthew Watson
Matthew Watson

artsy polcomp

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Jose Nelson
Jose Nelson

This OC isn't mine, but I want it to be seen nevertheless.

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Christian Reyes
Christian Reyes

2294914
Someone make one of these but for Romania. I got a Comrade over there

Matthew Roberts
Matthew Roberts

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Jonathan Moore
Jonathan Moore

I like it

Blake Jackson
Blake Jackson

make it the "Korea is One!" flag pls

Wyatt Flores
Wyatt Flores

2272625
this is nice, would prefer it with better quality megumin

Daniel Brooks
Daniel Brooks

2264590
Implying their are no lefty americans

Brandon Perry
Brandon Perry

It's a shame the cameras of the time couldn't capture how shiny his noggin was.

30 to 31 was amazing, but what happened next?

Connor Morris
Connor Morris

I dig your incest joke but aren't they a bit too young for that?

Lucas Lewis
Lucas Lewis

that was the time of the famine, and the donetsk region in the ukraine has always been a carthorse with its strong industry

but apparently even allegedly losing 6 million people (on top of oh so many millions more + casualties by foreign intervention that aren't calculated as "victims of communism") still wouldn't hold back the soviet advances in socialist construction :^)

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

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Isaac Reyes
Isaac Reyes

Primitive accumulation from collectivization

Elijah Rodriguez
Elijah Rodriguez

thnx :)

Juan Barnes
Juan Barnes

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Thomas Robinson
Thomas Robinson

honecker and ???

Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

Enrico Berlinguer.

Christian Cox
Christian Cox

It'll be difficult but I have the originals.

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Brayden Young
Brayden Young

A Picardía of the US which says "when you say Jerusalem is the capital of Israel so 128 countries (or whatever the number was who voted against the US) tell you to go fuck yourself"

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Brayden Lee
Brayden Lee

(Better idea)
When 128 countries tell you to go fuck yourself when you start a shitfest over Palestine (again)

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Lincoln Brown
Lincoln Brown

Final because I'm tired
When 128 countries collectively tell you to go fuck yourself after you try to start more shit in the Middle East

Samuel Garcia
Samuel Garcia

Standard SJW fake leftie

Christopher Murphy
Christopher Murphy

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Michael Martin
Michael Martin

when leftism is all about not offending the religious feelings of a spooked group that's a minority in the west.

Thomas Price
Thomas Price

Just did these 2 for my meme page
facebook.com/vgpmre/

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Connor Gomez
Connor Gomez

Requesting Edit of Pic Related with the west German flag as the hand.

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Noah Morales
Noah Morales

2272566
looks like judith butler

Josiah Ramirez
Josiah Ramirez

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David King
David King

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Benjamin Stewart
Benjamin Stewart

thanks

Brandon Myers
Brandon Myers

That's my post.
Why the hell did you screencap that?

Ryder Young
Ryder Young

It was funny.

Carter Hill
Carter Hill

I disagree, but alright. Be sure to share it with your friends on Tumblr and r/Zig Forums.

Jaxson Perez
Jaxson Perez

no BordiBa/Pannokoek
lenin included
first pic needs to be fixed.

Alexander Walker
Alexander Walker

Refer to: >>2326642

That's Awa, see: desuarchive.org/monster/thread/271007/

You're next.

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Jack Murphy
Jack Murphy

beautiful

Bentley Nelson
Bentley Nelson

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Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

Never got around to finishing the middle one before I forgot what the punchline was, I don't remember it being that good. Polite sage for a double post

Joshua Williams
Joshua Williams

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Nathan Martinez
Nathan Martinez

I didn't like the leg movement of the gif.

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Charles Taylor
Charles Taylor

life is a disease
love the metaphor
don't you worry Earth-chan, nuclear fire therapy will cure you of life soon

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Chase Sanchez
Chase Sanchez

don't post my nude like that user

Robert Edwards
Robert Edwards

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Gabriel Hernandez
Gabriel Hernandez

Ayyyy

Ryder Clark
Ryder Clark

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Nathaniel Johnson
Nathaniel Johnson

Is he, dare I say it, /ourguy/?

Joshua Walker
Joshua Walker

Cropped and Jpeged to shit gay porn which says:
OP IS A GAY JEW (in macro text)
MADE BY NAZBOL GANG

Elijah King
Elijah King

Also with a red hue

Christopher Phillips
Christopher Phillips

is that the dilbert guy

Jacob Gutierrez
Jacob Gutierrez

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Nicholas Anderson
Nicholas Anderson

no the dilbert guy is still a trump supporter

Carson Sanchez
Carson Sanchez

Did a meme

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Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

Managed to squeeze another one out before the new year. Hope you all have a pleasant old/new-celebration.
Translation kindly provided by Widdiful.

Got a question for you: how's the passion for ideological catgirls? Is there any interest in a spin-off series or something similar?

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Cooper Miller
Cooper Miller

Nice

Easton Wood
Easton Wood

Tried my best, sorry user

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Mason Perry
Mason Perry

Related

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Ethan Parker
Ethan Parker

CUTE!

Jaxson Williams
Jaxson Williams

It's called original creation, not original edit you talentless hacks.

Justin Allen
Justin Allen

lel

Cooper Robinson
Cooper Robinson

yes.

Kevin Wilson
Kevin Wilson

so cute
vocaroo.com/i/s1a8bHvhxICP
vocaroo.com/i/s1jqnVIxrhSb
vocaroo.com/i/s03LCNgfBaXd

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Angel Howard
Angel Howard

You have a cute style. It's nice and I'm jealous since I'm always too depressed to work on developing draw skills

Leo Diaz
Leo Diaz

want to draw
start drawing
get some basic skills and people like it
drop it entirely again
can't get myself back into it

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Tyler Stewart
Tyler Stewart

Anyone have that image about Adorno's interest in poetry and classical music for hitting cultural marxism retards over the head with?

Jonathan Brooks
Jonathan Brooks

Draw for yourself for a while, so you have no one to answer to and aren't under external pressure. Even if it's just 20 minutes a day, it is still something.
Also take a look at

Can you be a bit more specific?

Someone on wikipedia also compiled their criticism of the cultural marxism conspiracy and its proponents. You can find it here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jobrot/sandbox/Cultural_Marxism#As_a_conspiracy_theory

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Adam Cooper
Adam Cooper

Anyone mind replacing the ancom flag with an egoist flag. It's for a shitpost

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Easton Taylor
Easton Taylor

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Carter Taylor
Carter Taylor

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Hunter Mitchell
Hunter Mitchell

Great work! I hope at least some of my advice was helpful

Austin Powell
Austin Powell

All of the "an-whatever" flags except for the CNT-FAI one are cringe as fuck. Stop pushing them.

Fucking dank.

Anthony Williams
Anthony Williams

Crap. I feel something.
Oh boy, you're right.

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Andrew Martinez
Andrew Martinez

Anyone mind doing a favor for me. And cleaning this up a bit, maybe some Zig Forums editing? Porky over happy merchant, etc etc. your choice honestly or just completely removing it, I'm just kinda want to be able to share this without Le happy merchant maymay getting me questioned as a Nazi.
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Isaac Hughes
Isaac Hughes

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Lincoln Evans
Lincoln Evans

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Carson Baker
Carson Baker

Some reaction images from a course I had to take for work

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Charles Ward
Charles Ward

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Matthew Nelson
Matthew Nelson

I recall we had some Left Hand path posters here

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Luke Fisher
Luke Fisher

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Adam Hall
Adam Hall

Name of this girl?

Nolan Ward
Nolan Ward

Kys

Julian Edwards
Julian Edwards

Who's the cute man?

Isaac Jackson
Isaac Jackson

Would you like some cheese with that pathetic whine?

Connor Flores
Connor Flores

2337772
Don't see the OC here

Jayden Rodriguez
Jayden Rodriguez

Made a few of these

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Colton Morris
Colton Morris

Needs a hollow smile to work.

Luis Garcia
Luis Garcia

Hmm, hard to find high res pics of that though

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Cooper Allen
Cooper Allen

memefy this

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Blake Flores
Blake Flores

FUCKINKG NYANNERS?

Easton Turner
Easton Turner

here ya go

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Christian Hill
Christian Hill

Some custom stuff I made.

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Brody James
Brody James

Some Political comics and other drawing I made.

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Henry Gray
Henry Gray

Great stuff comrade! Here's some of my OC

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Easton Kelly
Easton Kelly

I can't really lost much else cause it isn't anti-cap/pro-commie

Joseph Bennett
Joseph Bennett

*post

Chase Ramirez
Chase Ramirez

Made the a while back.

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Ryan Williams
Ryan Williams

*these

Jose Johnson
Jose Johnson

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Dominic Sanders
Dominic Sanders

McMansions
personal property
no seriously we have to take a wrecking ball to these or renovate them into multi-family housing. you do NOT get to keep your mcmansion in socialism.

Carson Wright
Carson Wright

suburbia
That shit gets demolished, though

Jonathan Evans
Jonathan Evans

Thanks user I need a nice injection of existential panic.

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Nolan Parker
Nolan Parker

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Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

that'd be hot though

Gavin Hill
Gavin Hill

Fixed it.

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Brayden Taylor
Brayden Taylor

/leftpol/9131
Imagine being so anti-communsit that you become a communist.

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Justin Flores
Justin Flores

It's a "/pol/ack is a commie, but decades of anti-commie propaganda completely cucked him" episode

Adrian Phillips
Adrian Phillips

nice

Oliver Price
Oliver Price

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Jaxon Moore
Jaxon Moore

$375
what the actual shit

Brody Young
Brody Young

This has to be from some movie. There is no way this is not from a movie.

Adam Peterson
Adam Peterson

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Kevin Murphy
Kevin Murphy

use these, fresh sources
2341499

Charles Allen
Charles Allen

Comrade Stalin would have prevented this.
Fucking revisionists.

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Jacob Nguyen
Jacob Nguyen

Pol Pot, leader of the Khmer Rouge.

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Michael Adams
Michael Adams

What is it about il Duce being so characteristic?

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Levi James
Levi James

still using Aral Sea
Two words: Kerderi ruins.

Xavier Sanders
Xavier Sanders

Does anyone have the expanding brain meme where it’s like being a self-hating American on Zig Forums posting with the Stalinstache?

Aiden Reyes
Aiden Reyes

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Ryder Anderson
Ryder Anderson

For all the Trots on here.

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Brayden Cooper
Brayden Cooper

Brother Hao foreber in our Hears

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Kayden Price
Kayden Price

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Juan Parker
Juan Parker

Now this is radical centrism

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Jack Gray
Jack Gray

I know that its not OC, but could somebody share the "capitalism when it works, socialism when it doesn't" meme about venezuela for me?

Ryder Mitchell
Ryder Mitchell

Have you lifted today, user?

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Jacob Johnson
Jacob Johnson

No.

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Logan Rogers
Logan Rogers

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Anthony Taylor
Anthony Taylor

Naziposter is not a nazi, he just posts nazi pictures for some reasons.

Zachary Brooks
Zachary Brooks

He links to counter-enlightenment thinkers and dark enlightenment blogs. He's a monarcho-socialist.

Kevin Bell
Kevin Bell

I think he's a hardcore commie considering he likes to make fun of nazis "MUH HOLOCOASTER" and liberals "MUH DEMOCRACY".

And doesn't take him for a monarchist either, the dude just wants to debunk both right wing and left wing ideologies and uses edgy images to catch people's attention.

Noah Mitchell
Noah Mitchell

I have. Started doing laterals with the weights so my shoulders don't end up being half the size of my upper body.

Kayden Sullivan
Kayden Sullivan

Hay could someone with the time make a leftist version of these. It could very informative and and make thing short and simple for most people to understand.

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Christopher Sullivan
Christopher Sullivan

i messed up with the grammar.

Tyler Peterson
Tyler Peterson

Not my OC but I simply had to share this piece of rare genius.

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Carson Peterson
Carson Peterson

H O T

Jacob Fisher
Jacob Fisher

the gubbermint should do everything lawl :DDD
t. Garl Marx

Kayden Brown
Kayden Brown

Thanks, I didn't need those brian cells n e way.

Hudson Lee
Hudson Lee

Here's some OC you commie fags can appreciate.

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Anthony Powell
Anthony Powell

I made a webm you should repost any time someone praises Catholic church.

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Connor Bennett
Connor Bennett

Nice try, prot. Zig Forums is an Apostolic board.

Nathan Morris
Nathan Morris

Get your commie ass over to /christian/index.html and get right with Jesus.

Jordan Wright
Jordan Wright

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Chase Anderson
Chase Anderson

Implying he's NOT right with Jesus

Brandon Clark
Brandon Clark

There is a heavy need for a new ideological catgirl draw poster

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Sebastian Foster
Sebastian Foster

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Nicholas Morris
Nicholas Morris

well, some fascists are collectivists and in that sense they are more leftist than most people who claim to be leftists

Jordan Torres
Jordan Torres

Post your rare Bannons

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Michael Butler
Michael Butler

I need the original then the one where Banon is actually a fag because he doesn't like Trump

Nolan Harris
Nolan Harris

didn't know trotsky and lenin shared the same stand

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Leo Wright
Leo Wright

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Cooper Jones
Cooper Jones

/v/ in Africa

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Ayden Powell
Ayden Powell

I made a meme guys

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Elijah Sullivan
Elijah Sullivan

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Nathan Rogers
Nathan Rogers

The capitalists of Google and their search engine troll people into thinking photos of Saint Max exist, so have some OC and class consciousness. I already uploaded it on leftybooru, in case you need it.

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Aiden Clark
Aiden Clark

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Jace White
Jace White

stirner memes are top tier

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Cooper Phillips
Cooper Phillips

Left SR

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Gabriel Price
Gabriel Price

what's SR?

Adam Scott
Adam Scott

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Luke Powell
Luke Powell

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Socialist_Revolutionaries

The people you would usually call crypto-fascists and would usually call you crypto-fascists

Jason Martinez
Jason Martinez

It was just a joke, don't flip out

Carson Cruz
Carson Cruz

Something along these lines has probably been done way ago. Idc tho.

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Hudson Peterson
Hudson Peterson

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Jayden Turner
Jayden Turner

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Xavier Mitchell
Xavier Mitchell

completely empty
Seems accurate.

Zachary Sanders
Zachary Sanders

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Josiah Wilson
Josiah Wilson

Post anti-imperalist memes.

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Mason Harris
Mason Harris

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Elijah Jackson
Elijah Jackson

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Austin Ramirez
Austin Ramirez

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Ryan Sullivan
Ryan Sullivan

I can't tell if this is pro-gay or anti-Google…

Landon Ross
Landon Ross

I really like the 8 bit worker, comrade. A whole lineup of these would be amazing!

Jonathan Ramirez
Jonathan Ramirez

2266583
The second image hurts too much.

rip old chan culture, killed by /v-pol/

Ethan Morgan
Ethan Morgan

2273881
Dank af

Dylan Young
Dylan Young

hate /pol/
hate right-wing homeschooling because I grew up brainwashed by it
disagree with Varg on pretty much everything
still love his music
still think he's a cool guy
still bought MYFAROG
why do I do this comrades

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Lucas Perry
Lucas Perry

2268494
wheres Tim Buckley?

Angel Thompson
Angel Thompson

HAHAHAHAHA

Cooper Reed
Cooper Reed

make one with ted in the heart instead please

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Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

2266583
nazbol

Benjamin Wilson
Benjamin Wilson

because you're a retarded kid rebelling against your parents

varg is a retarded church burner though

Jordan Green
Jordan Green

nazi'posting was a psyop started by me, the real nazi poster

Colton Lopez
Colton Lopez

2364933
imperialism isn't capitalism X-D
/leftpol/index.html
your people await you

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Elijah Harris
Elijah Harris

2364933
also that dumb shit on "antifa"
no idea what popular united front means but opening your mouth like a dumb bitch, fucking anarchists need to off themself, seriously

Adrian Taylor
Adrian Taylor

R8 my reaction maymays

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Juan Jackson
Juan Jackson

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Justin Gutierrez
Justin Gutierrez

2264541
You know that's not practical , nobody is going to read your point with that guy on the left,(Try having it open for 20 min on your monitor)

Henry King
Henry King

good job everyone! We really stole a lot of /pol memes today!

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Lucas Barnes
Lucas Barnes

lurk two minutes before posting

Justin Cook
Justin Cook

Now get the fuck out. /pol/index.html

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Kevin Ross
Kevin Ross

pepe: /r9k/ and a 15 year old cartoon
wojak: krautchan
doom paul: /new/
garrison cartoons: ben garrison
happy merchant: nick bougas
kek: reddit
picardia ball: taringa
redpill analogy: the matrix
What /pol/ memes?

Samuel Hughes
Samuel Hughes

The meme theft autism is strong with this one.

Camden Edwards
Camden Edwards

2272684
Was it ever not?

Justin Clark
Justin Clark

Literally the best meme I've seen yet, /pol/ or Zig Forums everyone admits social justice tards are scum.

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Jaxson Young
Jaxson Young

fist her user

Caleb Hernandez
Caleb Hernandez

underrated

there's political racism against the right
My sides have been named Sputnik and sent into orbit, I'm surprised the Burger altists didn't think of that one first.

Source on that Marx comic and the tarot deck, please.

broken goggles on Chilean flag
why must you do this to me

iT's a real shame how close that pic was from fulfilling both Loss and the political compass.

The Great Chemo.

There's a joke about hyooman naychur in that pic, but I can't quite grasp it.

I get bored with everything I started. Hold me, comrade Wojak.

Fuck, that file is long gone. Did you grab it?

fucking temer, man

Luke Garcia
Luke Garcia

personal property
housing and/or land
That's still up to debate.

Top 10 Pranks That Went Way Too Far

How can someone be so wrong in so many different ways about a single topic?

Of all the portraits claimed to depict him, there's only one I haven't managed to find the true source for, so there's still a slim possibility he was photographed. Unfortunately, I can't even find the damn pic right now.

It's what's gonna happen when the dollar loses its status as the global currency.

le no-true-scotsman strawman

her

Christopher Lopez
Christopher Lopez

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Evan Thomas
Evan Thomas

The one good thing about captialism eroding gender binaries is the sharp rise in tomboys and other variations of androgynous cuties.

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Jace Johnson
Jace Johnson

these made my dick so soft it almost dissolved

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Grayson Clark
Grayson Clark

That's good because a faggot with such shit taste has no use for it anyway.

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Levi Nelson
Levi Nelson

Tbh, only 1&5.

Christian Bennett
Christian Bennett

Fact is that most of the rich are mostly jews. What now?

Kevin Scott
Kevin Scott

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Gabriel Rivera
Gabriel Rivera

dam typo.

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Leo Long
Leo Long

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Jason Walker
Jason Walker

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Aiden Clark
Aiden Clark

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Gavin Barnes
Gavin Barnes

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Josiah Thompson
Josiah Thompson

thank you for this thread OP, i never got the chance to post this other than some discord servers and politigram

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Joseph Ward
Joseph Ward

mao was gay and i entirely agree with this post

Parker Torres
Parker Torres

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Wyatt Garcia
Wyatt Garcia

balkans
x
portrays us pretty good

Ryder Turner
Ryder Turner

/trash/
not hidden
Enough of 4/pol/ are newfags that they don't even know of trash's existence.
Besides the fact that /pol/'s janitors will only delete, rarely move anything to /trash/

Nolan Clark
Nolan Clark

Any Ideas how to meme this into Trot related?

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Ayden Mitchell
Ayden Mitchell

2368725
Or if he wasn't a hack he could make each piece a different color

Owen Ramirez
Owen Ramirez

2368725

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Asher Young
Asher Young

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Jonathan Price
Jonathan Price

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Caleb Peterson
Caleb Peterson

kek that's almost fucking creepy

Henry Williams
Henry Williams

2369422
This is why we can't have nice things

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Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

Since Talkies are always calling the Kurds “imperialists” why not ironically shrill Imperialism. Nazbol Gang did it, so why not NATO Gang.
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Samuel Morris
Samuel Morris

But didn't the USSR did trade and business with Imperialist countries as well?

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Jonathan White
Jonathan White

You are supposed to fill in the blanks, dear user

Ryan Gomez
Ryan Gomez

Checked.

Mason Robinson
Mason Robinson

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Landon Collins
Landon Collins

Americans will never ever into socialism or communism.

Sebastian Powell
Sebastian Powell

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Brayden Reyes
Brayden Reyes

I hope not. Socialism could actually save America. And America doesn't deserve to be saved.

Nolan Davis
Nolan Davis

It's funny because Chris Chan officially joined antifa and is now a communist.

Angel Gutierrez
Angel Gutierrez

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Landon Morris
Landon Morris

a somalian stealing other people's stuff

You should make this the Zig Forums mascot.

Robert Long
Robert Long

unfunny internet pictures and frog drawings can be stolen
Kill yourself, and I fucking mean it. Just cut your wrist and remove yourself from the genepool,

Jordan Edwards
Jordan Edwards

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Nicholas Adams
Nicholas Adams

source?

Ian Lewis
Ian Lewis

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Jonathan Edwards
Jonathan Edwards

ahahah holy fuck, these are real posts on leftpol
/leftpol/17744

Jack Rodriguez
Jack Rodriguez

this pic is actually true

Julian Russell
Julian Russell

kek

Kevin Gray
Kevin Gray

2370619
you have to go back /leftpol/index.html

Charles Davis
Charles Davis

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Blake Gray
Blake Gray

reddit tier cherrypicking tbh

Christian Thomas
Christian Thomas

/leftpol/ seems cute

Jordan Perez
Jordan Perez

2371072

Sorry, you must be lost.

/pol/index.html

Brody Reyes
Brody Reyes

2265012
commies selling merchandise
pottery

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Liam Thomas
Liam Thomas

(you)

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Noah Taylor
Noah Taylor

We've got a secondary mascot by that description but he's German instead of Somalian.

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Adam Green
Adam Green

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Liam Robinson
Liam Robinson

what form of schizophrenia is this

Brayden Gomez
Brayden Gomez

you know there's more types of socialism than Marxism
What's the proper response to this? This is a talking point /pol/yps constantly use to justify their "socialism."

Parker Mitchell
Parker Mitchell

Proper response is that other types of socialism is idealist and only work if everyone is nice and holds hands.
Marxism approach is that capitalists are greedy cunts, same with imperialists. They'll do anything they can to supress the proletariat and will never in a million years just freely hand over the power and mop. And when socialism has been started in a country, capitalist states will do everything they can to undermine socialism, which require a state that guards and protects the nation's proletariat and will work towards world-wide communism
It's easy to see through material dialectics that hand-holding socialism or revolution into instant stateless will inevitably lead to catastrophe

Nathan Lee
Nathan Lee

Made by
BELAYA RUS GANG

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Joseph Rivera
Joseph Rivera

Does anyone have the version of this pic with all the added statistics?

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Dylan Garcia
Dylan Garcia

oof

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Aiden Lewis
Aiden Lewis

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Eli Anderson
Eli Anderson

We must support NATO in their struggle against Belarus!!

Lucas Foster
Lucas Foster

Thanks lad

Zachary Sullivan
Zachary Sullivan

stay mad bby :^)

Cameron Howard
Cameron Howard

What the fuck happened in the early 2000?
Did someone activate the liberty prime?

Christopher Wood
Christopher Wood

Thanks for the response.

Ayden Price
Ayden Price

What's the proper response to this?
Say, yeah thee’s other types of Socialism than just Marxism, there’s Anarchism, Communalism, and Utopian Socialism.

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Blake Taylor
Blake Taylor

(you)

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Luis Butler
Luis Butler

Post the superior version next time.

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Kayden King
Kayden King

All hail the BELAYA RUS GANG

Comrade Lukashenko is Nazbol

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Lincoln Ramirez
Lincoln Ramirez

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Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward

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Aaron Rodriguez
Aaron Rodriguez

I abhor every version of that image.

Adam Parker
Adam Parker

Christ almighty the thread was 2 bumps away from deletion. Also I saved the Alunya pic on the booru which will be deleted by the cycle when I bump this.

Grayson Jones
Grayson Jones

2267777
2267778

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Jayden Garcia
Jayden Garcia

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Elijah Cox
Elijah Cox

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Blake Lopez
Blake Lopez

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Robert Russell
Robert Russell

There's a new tag in the booru for "gang" memes and it's "x_gang" please use it when making your generic 2016 memes instead of creating a new category for your special ideology.

William Ramirez
William Ramirez

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Grayson Scott
Grayson Scott

2267745

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Cooper Sanders
Cooper Sanders

2274389
there's nothing special about white workers specifically

Jonathan Morales
Jonathan Morales

these are great

Angel Edwards
Angel Edwards

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Luis Russell
Luis Russell

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Logan Allen
Logan Allen

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Logan Adams
Logan Adams

I'm looking for the edit of pic related where he's holding a revolver

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Justin Baker
Justin Baker

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Joshua Ramirez
Joshua Ramirez

is Mélenchon a socdem at all? Compared to SPD or Labour he's pretty radical

Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

He takes part in bourgeois political theater, that makes you a succdem. At least until you prove otherwise.

Zachary Mitchell
Zachary Mitchell

Compared to the SPD
SPD are just soclibs under a pink banner, they shouldn't even call themselves social democrats IMO.
Labour
Well depends what you mean there: as parties La France Insoumise is certainly more radical than the whole of Labour, but both Melenchon and Corbyn/McDonnell are equal in terms of radicality.
In terms of policy LFA's manifesto did involve socialisation but they said explicilty that it was keynesian in nature because France's economy needs to "reconfigure", however idealistically he is definitely a socialist.
He takes part in bourgeois political theater, that makes you a succdem.
What is this, 1913?

Ryder Stewart
Ryder Stewart

there you go

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Ian Flores
Ian Flores

second pic
When you see a little girl without their parent

Eli Ortiz
Eli Ortiz

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Kevin Perez
Kevin Perez

You made me laugh.
Nice.

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Grayson Cook
Grayson Cook

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Eli Murphy
Eli Murphy

Top lmao

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Carson Myers
Carson Myers

is that really OC?

Charles Adams
Charles Adams

Ya like Jazz?

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Chase Nelson
Chase Nelson

Well someone has to convert those videos to webms.

Jason Edwards
Jason Edwards

I was going to use this as a reaction, but now I'll just leave it here.

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Alexander Barnes
Alexander Barnes

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Nathan Rogers
Nathan Rogers

jej.

Evan Johnson
Evan Johnson

I would hardly call this OC, but it's still useful.

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Adrian Bailey
Adrian Bailey

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Nathan Thompson
Nathan Thompson

Working on an extended version of the first pic. Thoughts?

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Nathan Rivera
Nathan Rivera

Can you post a second pic with him smiling or clapping or something

Nathaniel Bell
Nathaniel Bell

You can't steal your own property, user.

Connor Morales
Connor Morales

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Jeremiah Thomas
Jeremiah Thomas

something to have at hand in advance for when the crash does come
I'm sure other people could do a better job at it than I could

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Connor Morales
Connor Morales

Brother Number One
primitivist
He was an agrarian, therefore a post-primitivist. True primitivists want to live in the new-new stone age.

Daniel Gutierrez
Daniel Gutierrez

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Mason Price
Mason Price

I don't quite get what you mean. Is it to make infographs? In any case, there's a thread for that right now.

underrated

holy shit a tomboy with actual tits

breddy gud, the Poland one is particularly on point. The fuckers were licking Hitler's asshole clean all the way until they got invaded, and a lot of them carried on even after that. Ever since the fall of the Russian Empire, their policy was that the USSR was literally the worst thing in the world, and they were by far the biggest reason why there wasn't a Franco-British-Soviet alliance before the war.

Make sure it's all connections of 3 to show Trots can't form a 4.

2369422
internet tribalism
I'll eat my fedora Lenin cap if there weren't polyps involved in that board's creation.

I once debate a liberal who seemed to be under the impression that the USSR didn't engage in foreign trade because trading is bourgeois.

Luke Scott
Luke Scott

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Charles Richardson
Charles Richardson

my bf's oc

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Ryder Price
Ryder Price

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Julian Jones
Julian Jones

you also have to imagine this playing in the background

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Nathan Ross
Nathan Ross

Nature is the First tyrant
That symbolism in the image

Tell your BF he go to gulag.

Brayden Brown
Brayden Brown

Nature is the first tyrant
What does that even mean?

Justin Stewart
Justin Stewart

checkmate ATHEISTS

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Adam Cook
Adam Cook

We are, first and foremost, slaves to our biological needs. If we didn't need to eat, there wouldn't be a porky taking advantage of that need, would there? Matter is our first and last prison.

What's the problem wih the symbolism? And beyond that, well he's killing a spook.

Jayden Jones
Jayden Jones

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Chase Ortiz
Chase Ortiz

Please can you ask your friend to do one like this but of Hoxha? I would really appreciate it, thanx

Blake Carter
Blake Carter

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James Reed
James Reed

2280406
source?

Elijah Davis
Elijah Davis

hey that looks like loss

Christian Gonzalez
Christian Gonzalez

2408213
/pol/index.html

Benjamin Sullivan
Benjamin Sullivan

communist awoo

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Nicholas Stewart
Nicholas Stewart

You do realize that Syria has taken the same route as western european social democracies, right? There's been a great deal of privatization and economic liberalization under Assad. Syria has gone neoliberal just like any other former-socdem country.
Venezuela is a lot better, they actually push for more nationalizations.

Jack Russell
Jack Russell

You sound familiar

Hudson Gutierrez
Hudson Gutierrez

I am shittu with photoshop so I must make a request. Make the Morning Leader on the left look like stirner, and the Yellow Press on the right like a typical lolbert/ancap.

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Ryder Nelson
Ryder Nelson

I'll just shamelessly post my text-edited version here, too.
A shame that I don't have the skill to pull off the clever 'shops for the characters that you're suggesting.

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Robert Smith
Robert Smith

You do realize that Syria has taken the same route as western european social democracies, right?
It "has" not, it DID attempt to appease imperialists by making reforms, but since the imperialist assault on Syria has proven that appeasement can't work, Syria is likely to double down on socialism.

Gabriel Bell
Gabriel Bell

it's nice enough as it is and they already kind of look like Stirner and the average retarded lolbert

Cameron Martin
Cameron Martin

No, the left one needs improvement.

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Jace Ward
Jace Ward

You WISH this was you and your party.

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Parker Butler
Parker Butler

They finna kill a giant Trotsky?

Jaxon Moore
Jaxon Moore

Beautiful. Truly spooky.

Nolan Diaz
Nolan Diaz

Did my own rendition of Every Man a King - no changes, just a short cover. Whaddya think?

vocaroo.com/i/s1EtpyzwO6bf

Not my best work, admittedly.

Jose Sullivan
Jose Sullivan

Pretty decent. What are you playing, it sounds like a banjo but there is no drone.

Also in the mood to record most leftist shit, someone give me a song.

Levi Price
Levi Price

Resonator guitar - has a nice 'ambiance' to it like a banjo, bit of twang, but a bit thicker tone.

Ayden Fisher
Ayden Fisher

Bloody hell you have got yourself some nice kit there. That's one thing with the banjo I have issue with, it is sometimes hard to give it weight.

Chase Myers
Chase Myers

not technically OC but a image I found on a old soviet images site thats pretty aesthetic

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Easton Hall
Easton Hall

2286349
What canada thinks I do

kek

Brayden Torres
Brayden Torres

2286349
use paint.net instead of MS paint

Adrian Sullivan
Adrian Sullivan

i like it

Matthew Fisher
Matthew Fisher

That would be #IAmWithHer.

Joseph Martin
Joseph Martin

Shit, we should really incorporate the icepick into more flags and shit

Gavin Myers
Gavin Myers

vvv nice

Elijah White
Elijah White

Posted this in the wrong thread

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Levi Sanchez
Levi Sanchez

i actually love this,thanks
t.br monkey

Eli Rodriguez
Eli Rodriguez

I needed to vent.

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Bentley Foster
Bentley Foster

context? Are twitter leftist defending fucking UBI?

Jace Nguyen
Jace Nguyen

Not now in particular; I needed to slap something on as the speaker, and I vaguely remember someone linking to twitter in a Zig Forums thread on UBI. I admit I didn't think too long about this.

Robert Fisher
Robert Fisher

Kiki
ancap
holy fuck this is really funny but it also makes me really irritated, Kiki is NOT an ancap!!!

Jayden Cooper
Jayden Cooper

Preach. Saying that Kiki is an ancap is more or less buying into the lolbert meme that any sort of reciprocal human action is literally capitalism.

Josiah Reyes
Josiah Reyes

The OP said that it's based on the anime instead of the characters

Jayden Perez
Jayden Perez

Libertarian right / ancap applies even less to "Kiki's delivery service" as a whole. The plot happens in a normal town with no anarchy in sight, the "good" characters all engage in mutual aid to some degree. Kiki the character does become a petit bourg, but it's rather implied that it's because of the circumstances, and witches that settle in villages or smaller towns don't run small businesses.

Brody Thompson
Brody Thompson

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Austin Sanchez
Austin Sanchez

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Adam Cooper
Adam Cooper

my uber is here

Cameron Foster
Cameron Foster

you have to stretch these movies a lot to get an overtly rightist theme out of them, the fact that the title refers to a business makes it the best contender for bottom right

Tyler Gomez
Tyler Gomez

What happened to Dark Wojak? I really liked that meme.

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Jeremiah Cooper
Jeremiah Cooper

I liked Horror Wojak

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Camden Watson
Camden Watson

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Hunter White
Hunter White

Looks sick bruv

Benjamin Ortiz
Benjamin Ortiz

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Andrew Baker
Andrew Baker

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Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

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Joshua Garcia
Joshua Garcia

I like it very much

Anthony Adams
Anthony Adams

I made this a while back, December 25th of last year according to the timestamp.

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Liam Jones
Liam Jones

WHO HAS DARED TO SUMMON HIM?

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Jose Smith
Jose Smith

Also if you wanna do it the 'original' way then you throw pink blobs on the outline of a Dark Wojak figure and maybe a few black gaps in the outline. Make sure to distort the fuck out of the figure before you're done and perhaps reduce the colours ('posterise') for more effect.

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Hudson Parker
Hudson Parker

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Hunter Cruz
Hunter Cruz

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Nathaniel Gutierrez
Nathaniel Gutierrez

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Adam Jackson
Adam Jackson

Got one without the text?

Matthew Sullivan
Matthew Sullivan

Sorry, picked it up from a comrade and edited it.

I can ask him for the original pic

Caleb Powell
Caleb Powell

I have this one though

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Juan Hughes
Juan Hughes

Yeah, if you get the chance, ask him for the original please.

Samuel Bailey
Samuel Bailey

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Owen Fisher
Owen Fisher

Requesting OC for the
Petroleum Welfare Socialism gang

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Asher Carter
Asher Carter

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Hudson Morris
Hudson Morris

I made this less cringe. Can the version on the booru be replaced or something.

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Oliver Ramirez
Oliver Ramirez

Still missing the last digit on the total

Jaxson Foster
Jaxson Foster

I thought the original did it on purpose for some reason.

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Connor Howard
Connor Howard

youtube.com/watch?v=P53sL64P5aM&feature=youtu.be

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Colton Thompson
Colton Thompson

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Jaxson Richardson
Jaxson Richardson

r8 my dank oc

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Julian Diaz
Julian Diaz

Forgive the low quality

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Parker Baker
Parker Baker

RIP Bat'ko.

Cameron Rivera
Cameron Rivera

How do you do that effect with the eyes?

Jordan Robinson
Jordan Robinson

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Ryder Cooper
Ryder Cooper

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Colton Kelly
Colton Kelly

better??

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Carter Martin
Carter Martin

cmon

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Jose Kelly
Jose Kelly

eh it's okay I guess

Oliver Moore
Oliver Moore

And thus the curtains close

Nathaniel Gomez
Nathaniel Gomez

found this epic image MAGApedes use to troll libtards with and made some minor corrections to reflect the demographic

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Lincoln Lopez
Lincoln Lopez

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Charles Evans
Charles Evans

fuck, Trudeau looks hot in that uniform

Christopher Hughes
Christopher Hughes

Extremely high quality content

Landon Ross
Landon Ross

Anifascism Egoism

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Juan Sanders
Juan Sanders

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Carter Turner
Carter Turner

Not my OC but I liked it

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Adam Hernandez
Adam Hernandez

lel

Levi Evans
Levi Evans

GANG GANG GANG

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Luis Torres
Luis Torres

GANG SHIT NIGGA

Alexander Ward
Alexander Ward

Gang

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Charles Cox
Charles Cox

Just made this

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Adrian King
Adrian King

Does anyone have the comic style meme about Adorno and a nazi creating culture while he's trying to climb stairs and he ends up traumatizing children and falling down, it was about youtube taking advantage their younger demographic, it also included a 'salt bae' toy on amazon, and the end Adorno says something at the end along the lines of "I warned you about culture industry bro"

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Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

and at the end Adorno says something along the lines of…*

Evan Rodriguez
Evan Rodriguez

dont got the comic itself but i do got a webm of it

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Jason Nelson
Jason Nelson

Got it!
tfw you have to scour trough ~1,8 Gb of lefty memes and content to find what you're looking for
I seriously need to organize.

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Jonathan Hernandez
Jonathan Hernandez

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Connor Evans
Connor Evans

turns out the numbers are wrong too, here's a better version

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Colton Jones
Colton Jones

turns out the numbers are wrong too, here's a better version

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Jose Collins
Jose Collins

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Daniel Sullivan
Daniel Sullivan

If Adorno time traveled to the present and saw the situation were in today how long would you give it before he committed susicide.

Joseph Hernandez
Joseph Hernandez

about a week

Grayson Reyes
Grayson Reyes

Can somebody please make one of these for Stirner?

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Noah Diaz
Noah Diaz

Is this the original virgin vs Chad meme?

John Phillips
John Phillips

highly exploitable

Hudson Wood
Hudson Wood

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Austin Lewis
Austin Lewis

Hello, tovarischi. I am putting together an agitprop video and I need infographics which generally showcase global capital and wealth inequality. Hit me.

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Josiah Brown
Josiah Brown

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Jace Torres
Jace Torres

I am no longer yours, now I am Senya's. He took me to the Soviet to listen to Lenin's speeches.

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Matthew Lee
Matthew Lee

This, pls help.

Charles Robinson
Charles Robinson

Life can be a disase but it can also be a cure. Its up to us which one we will be.

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John Parker
John Parker

We need Jojo versions of engels, lenin, stalin and marx. This is something that must exist.

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Christian Lewis
Christian Lewis

"the soviets did it" could become a meme

Justin Wright
Justin Wright

I have anime trotsky if it is any conciliation.

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Gavin Sullivan
Gavin Sullivan

pull together
national union of semen

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Alexander Gray
Alexander Gray

it's late but here you go

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Owen Williams
Owen Williams

striner is gay

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Xavier Allen
Xavier Allen

Thanks for the entertainment, Zig Forums
The unbridled autism of your "OC" is always good for a laugh.

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James Perry
James Perry

Back to pol etc.

Brayden Hall
Brayden Hall

/pol/yp
Black dicks
like pottery

Isaiah Walker
Isaiah Walker

What da fuq is that image supposed to mean? What is with you /pol/acks and black penis?

Carter Cruz
Carter Cruz

That's not true! That's impossible!!!

Bentley Garcia
Bentley Garcia

Fuck you hes not

Cameron Collins
Cameron Collins

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Colton Russell
Colton Russell

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Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

what's with you /pol/ guys and black dicks
why can't you stop thinking of black cocks

Nathan Peterson
Nathan Peterson

/LEFGYPFL/

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Tyler Mitchell
Tyler Mitchell

No user, it's worse:
/LEF*URFL/

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

Requesting this but with Cockshott making his goofy grin at the end

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Evan Miller
Evan Miller

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Oliver King
Oliver King

that pic is cherrypicked, dprk normally is lit up just as much as rok

Nicholas Nelson
Nicholas Nelson

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Lincoln Taylor
Lincoln Taylor

I got bored

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Brayden Howard
Brayden Howard

Apple scores a win for the left!

Angel Phillips
Angel Phillips

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Liam Russell
Liam Russell

Believing BO is a trans
Unironically made this

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Anthony Myers
Anthony Myers

Also, requesting picardia (strawblall) meme for this:
When /pol/ is obsessed with black dicks and trans, but they project into Zig Forums

Jason Kelly
Jason Kelly

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Dominic Anderson
Dominic Anderson

Post this in /islam/index.html I want to see if they start worshiping Turning Point USA. After all they share the same ideology.

Benjamin Long
Benjamin Long

Cell wallpaper

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William Stewart
William Stewart

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Isaac Hall
Isaac Hall

Whipped this up.
youtube.com/watch?v=GmREfxqyuOg
if someone can convert it to a webm that'd be great

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Easton Garcia
Easton Garcia

Here you go, famalam.

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Adam Brooks
Adam Brooks

Cheers, lad

Dominic Jones
Dominic Jones

really now?

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Luis Peterson
Luis Peterson

They don't deny that they face problems supplying enough electricity due to the fuel shortages caused by international sanctions.

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Brandon Rivera
Brandon Rivera

i made something for a shitty /b/ meme that showed up recently
original included if anyone wants to improve it

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Kevin Parker
Kevin Parker

Source: Amartya Sen
Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy
The flute discussion is a story from philosophers of Ancient Greece, you bellends. Meritocracy, my ass. Nuke Singapore.

William Collins
William Collins

Snap the flute in half, tell child a that the flute is a shitty instrument, tell child b to use her skills better, and tell child c that having a flute is fucking useless.
Then fuck all 3.

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Jason Taylor
Jason Taylor

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Gavin Ross
Gavin Ross

Your a lair. Alex Jones still has 2 million subs. Alex Jones got banned because he broke the rules not because he deleted his own channel.

Gabriel Miller
Gabriel Miller

Drawn by me.

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Tyler Barnes
Tyler Barnes

Nice.

Josiah Roberts
Josiah Roberts

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Brody Barnes
Brody Barnes

I made a tutorial for people that want to create videos for YouTube. Not sure if it's good or not but share if you want to.

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Lucas Ramirez
Lucas Ramirez

just realized I typed Shortcut instead of Shotcut.
end me

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Connor Bell
Connor Bell

great work, user

John Lee
John Lee

Thanks, here's a fixed version with Shotcut spelled correctly

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Jeremiah Ward
Jeremiah Ward

I just saw this image and thought the edit would be too easy to pass up.

Carter Martinez
Carter Martinez

And I'm a fucking moron. Let this post devoid of it's related pic stand as a testament to my stupidity. Here's the image.

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John Sullivan
John Sullivan

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Charles Campbell
Charles Campbell

Not my OC but it's B e a u t i f u l

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Henry Hernandez
Henry Hernandez

what is this brain dead meme even trying to convey?

Alexander Lewis
Alexander Lewis

didn't mean to sage

Hunter Perez
Hunter Perez

Defending Capitalism
/pol/index.html

Tyler Perry
Tyler Perry

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Liam Davis
Liam Davis

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Owen Rodriguez
Owen Rodriguez

Nationalist Capitalist go to /pol/index.html

Kevin Reyes
Kevin Reyes

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Camden Hernandez
Camden Hernandez

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Kevin Brown
Kevin Brown

can somebody turn make AMLO a proper Nazbol?

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Robert Allen
Robert Allen

turn AMLO into
no clue how I fucked that up this bad

Chase Campbell
Chase Campbell

Is this about Jews or Muslims

Regardless, it's not a Leftist issue

Joseph Cox
Joseph Cox

Nazbol-Socdem alliance is strong.

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Aiden Howard
Aiden Howard

Does anyone have the picture saying “Hitler was a black german and that the modern day germans are slavic jewish communists meant to cover up the truth about the black germans”

James Richardson
James Richardson

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Angel Scott
Angel Scott

bastardize /pol/ content
"""OC"""
Shameful

Ayden Stewart
Ayden Stewart

thx

Aiden Wright
Aiden Wright

Memes evolve collectively from users. If you think certain memes are limited to certain “groups” you need to get off the internet.

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Nicholas Bennett
Nicholas Bennett

Let's take a look at all that /pol/ content
pepe: /r9k/ and a 15 year old cartoon
wojak: krautchan
doom paul: /new/
ben garrison cartoons: ben garrison
happy merchant: nick bougas
kek: reddit

Cameron Howard
Cameron Howard

Maybe today is the day you realize your life is a lie

Owen Reed
Owen Reed

If you're a black nationalist, why do you want to fuck white wimmin?

muh dick?

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Zachary Peterson
Zachary Peterson

Not my OC but I liked it

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Parker Baker
Parker Baker

I found this but I dont know what to do with it

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Hunter Hughes
Hunter Hughes

meme victims

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Easton Stewart
Easton Stewart

OG horseshoe theory.

Kayden Murphy
Kayden Murphy

poor kids born in the US aren't doing as much as an entire country's government
le epic owned XD

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Joshua Gomez
Joshua Gomez

now there's a nuclear take

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Adam Bell
Adam Bell

same regimes
same methods
same victims
and they said frogs were based

Christian Anderson
Christian Anderson

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Josiah Bailey
Josiah Bailey

Don't use Nichijou for your shit

Charles Cox
Charles Cox

get that anti communism propaganda out of my sight

Isaiah Johnson
Isaiah Johnson

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Benjamin Gray
Benjamin Gray

The kids are right. China is capitalist.

Andrew Gutierrez
Andrew Gutierrez

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Ryder Wilson
Ryder Wilson

GAO GANG
fucking lmao

Easton Sanchez
Easton Sanchez

Red didn't we tell you to fuck off along with your pedo gf you name fag?

Liam Bailey
Liam Bailey

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Dylan Moore
Dylan Moore

Red GTFO

Jayden Ramirez
Jayden Ramirez

Fuck me this looks really authentic.

kek

Andrew Baker
Andrew Baker

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Caleb Davis
Caleb Davis

double times the idiot and proud

Alexander Robinson
Alexander Robinson

context?

Gabriel Torres
Gabriel Torres

usually how that meme plays out is that some kids yelling about revisionism will win.
I think the oc was American army and one rice farmer.

Nathan Gray
Nathan Gray

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Josiah Sanders
Josiah Sanders

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Owen Butler
Owen Butler

web.archive.org/web/20180105043558/https://zigforums.com/thread/2340637/right-politics
web.archive.org/web/20180105035407/https://akhnaton-ii.deviantart.com/journal/Sorta-research-on-pedophilia-698223014
Your girlfriend is a pedo and an imperialist, you should feel bad.

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Jeremiah Brooks
Jeremiah Brooks

damn you're right. It should be edited the other way round but then we would need to simplify the description of the CPCh hmmm

Nathaniel Wilson
Nathaniel Wilson

implying that China is Capitalist

kek

Wyatt Carter
Wyatt Carter

It has generalized commodity production, bourgeois ownership of the means of production, wages, exploitation, and lot’s of private property. How isn’t it Capitalism?

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Wyatt Edwards
Wyatt Edwards

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Luis Adams
Luis Adams

That — that sound actually pretty good.

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Matthew Richardson
Matthew Richardson

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Jayden Adams
Jayden Adams

only programmers will get this joke

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Jacob James
Jacob James

the joke is associating leftist theory with autistic meme languages

Daniel Sanders
Daniel Sanders

The fuckers were licking Hitler's asshole clean all the way until they got invaded, and a lot of them carried on even after that.

any sources on that? cause as far as i know they were trying not get crushed by a huge army coming from the west and a huge army coming from the east, after they lost their country for 123 years (and guess who did that shit). franco-british-soviet alliance was not possible because of russians you dumb dumb. read some books. you do know they were hanging out with nazis back then, right?

Connor Bennett
Connor Bennett

Love it

Caleb Watson
Caleb Watson

A functional form of communism.

Andrew Williams
Andrew Williams

kek: reddit
Isn't kek a WoW meme?

Angel Jackson
Angel Jackson

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Lincoln Ramirez
Lincoln Ramirez

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Blake Nguyen
Blake Nguyen

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Lucas Jackson
Lucas Jackson

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Bentley Johnson
Bentley Johnson

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Tyler Flores
Tyler Flores

BATCH FROM JAMAHIRIYA GANG

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Jayden Edwards
Jayden Edwards

10 minutes in Photoshop

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Christopher Wood
Christopher Wood

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Elijah King
Elijah King

could someone with draw skills please make a little picture of a /pol/ alt righty sperging out like a child screaming "soy! jew! n*gger!" or something, something you could use as a reaction image any time a /pol/ shitter tries to derail a thread? or does one exist already? There's a surprising lack of oc depicting these creatures

Carson Torres
Carson Torres

just use this

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Lincoln Hall
Lincoln Hall

this is awful

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Cameron Reyes
Cameron Reyes

national de leonist gang?

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Oliver Barnes
Oliver Barnes

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Jaxon Cruz
Jaxon Cruz

Stop using the 3 arrow sign jesus christ. The third arrow is literally against the bolsheviks

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Ethan Adams
Ethan Adams

youre thinking of another 3 arrow sign, all this one is doing is representing syndicalism

Elijah Lopez
Elijah Lopez

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Xavier Bell
Xavier Bell

see the spanish socialist parties near the end of the 19th century

Tyler Foster
Tyler Foster

Xi Jinping wave 域ぜソ

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Jack Rogers
Jack Rogers

I wish Xi was this cool

Oliver Baker
Oliver Baker

don't know if this counts as a compliment to my OC

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

it does, I really like it

Wyatt Clark
Wyatt Clark

Why does chavez look lile a obese version of chekoty from star trek voyager?>>2442678

James Ortiz
James Ortiz

Nice.

Bentley Foster
Bentley Foster

Thanks, Comrades

Stop disrespecting Comrade Xi Jinping!!

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Kevin Sullivan
Kevin Sullivan

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Logan Cooper
Logan Cooper

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Charles Sanders
Charles Sanders

Keep 'em coming.

Lucas Price
Lucas Price

Not my OC but I liked it

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Lincoln Perez
Lincoln Perez

Stop disrespecting Capitalists!!
/pol/index.html

Jack Peterson
Jack Peterson

I don't think hero worshipping this guy is such a good idea

Samuel Gray
Samuel Gray

Now is perfect

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Hudson White
Hudson White

nice

Xavier Gonzalez
Xavier Gonzalez

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Nolan Cruz
Nolan Cruz

Xi Jinping Pepe in addition to the Wojak

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Thomas Green
Thomas Green

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Tyler Price
Tyler Price

No wonder why /leftpol/ hates Tanks. All the tanks there are revisionists.
Zig Forums52575
Zig Forums52577

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Andrew Roberts
Andrew Roberts

*
zigforums.com/thread/52443/left-politics
zigforums.com/thread/52443/left-politics

Colton Gutierrez
Colton Gutierrez

revisionism isn't wrong
I'm no ☭TANKIE☭, but this is probably just a falseflag. Nobody sinks this low.

Lucas Lee
Lucas Lee

obviously this

Isaiah Rogers
Isaiah Rogers

it's probably from the same group of retarded ☭TANKIE☭s on here who are /pol/ non-verts who can't even do basic simple material analysis.

Eli Wright
Eli Wright

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Ayden Collins
Ayden Collins

that last one.if political ideology gets an anime like something like hetalia i'm sure that is gonna be the plot twist

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Caleb Phillips
Caleb Phillips

You are a faggot

Jeremiah Barnes
Jeremiah Barnes

Nazbol gang assemble

Chase White
Chase White

Stolen idea still OC

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Gabriel Reed
Gabriel Reed

DID SOMEBODY SAY NAZBOL GANG?

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Bentley Morales
Bentley Morales

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Leo Watson
Leo Watson

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Brandon Adams
Brandon Adams

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Jackson Robinson
Jackson Robinson

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Owen Lopez
Owen Lopez

holy shit, I want a sorelian gf now

Kayden Allen
Kayden Allen

I don’t speak frog

Elijah Hall
Elijah Hall

it's called recouperation, it's a very established tendency of capitalism. Look up détournement for how to counter it. Recouperation is when radical ideas or expressions of antagonism against the present state of things are adopted to become a part of capitalism itself. détournement is a revolutionary technique which counters this, it recontextualises expressions of capitalism in a radical context. watch "can dialectics break bricks".

Joseph Wilson
Joseph Wilson

Not OC.

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Ryan Gray
Ryan Gray

My GULAG will be first in, last out– and you're going in first, Porky.

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Mason Walker
Mason Walker

I'm not good at these shitposts, please improve

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Zachary Parker
Zachary Parker

This but unironically. With a little bit of medicine and industry, bottom pic looks like a much more fulfilling life.

Andrew Bennett
Andrew Bennett

Naz-Bol-Tomboyism the only true succesor to the Stirner

William Howard
William Howard

I fucking love this. Requesting more Adolphus memes.

Daniel Lopez
Daniel Lopez

Can someone re draw popuko as alunya in this strip. I dont know how to draw.

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Ryan Garcia
Ryan Garcia

Why dosn’t Zig Forums understand that the Burgerstani Military is the most progressive and leftist force in the world. Afghan women are much more liberated now than under Taliban rule.

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Grayson Cox
Grayson Cox

Also F-35s are a cool plane weather you admit it or not.

Jaxon Perry
Jaxon Perry

Sound is amplified, not magnified.

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Jaxon Sullivan
Jaxon Sullivan

F35's are the only aircraft ever made that need to go on a fucking diet. They are the latest example of the obesity problem sweeping the US.

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Samuel Price
Samuel Price

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Samuel Gray
Samuel Gray

stirner-chan a qt

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Nolan Jenkins
Nolan Jenkins

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Levi Fisher
Levi Fisher

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Dylan Carter
Dylan Carter

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Grayson Bennett
Grayson Bennett

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Colton Ortiz
Colton Ortiz

cute

Owen King
Owen King

heh

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Juan Miller
Juan Miller

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Brandon Nelson
Brandon Nelson

you seem upset about that edit :-)

Thomas Carter
Thomas Carter

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William Phillips
William Phillips

Michael Kühnen a neonazi gives a fiery speech about sacrificing their lifes for germany before ordering retreat and running away
he admited to be gay and died of aids

greek policemen on bikes run over protestors and one of them gets third degree burns from molotovs
youtube.com/watch?v=U0rO2BTbu2A

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Sebastian Collins
Sebastian Collins

Made by Viet Bong gang

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Jason Peterson
Jason Peterson

via boards.4chan.org/s4s/thread/6679424

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Isaiah Brown
Isaiah Brown

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Elijah Nelson
Elijah Nelson

10/10

Hudson Edwards
Hudson Edwards

Franco was not a Falangist

Ayden Gomez
Ayden Gomez

openrevolt.info/2011/10/26/kropotkin-and-qadhafi/

Andrew Thomas
Andrew Thomas

Fixed your shity meme.

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Jayden Gutierrez
Jayden Gutierrez

BILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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Colton Reed
Colton Reed

the point is that Falangism was and is irrelevant

Connor Baker
Connor Baker

Franco Just Ruined it.
It was even a shitty leader

Parker Rodriguez
Parker Rodriguez

lol
makes less sense but still a shot in your own goal

Jaxon Anderson
Jaxon Anderson

Is it really so hard for so many people to understand what a turd position is?

Jaxson Sullivan
Jaxson Sullivan

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Henry Baker
Henry Baker

I know this is an edit, but Jesus Christ Branco is fucking stupid.

Nolan Sanders
Nolan Sanders

Just imagine how stupid it would be if it was Horsey

Evan Sanchez
Evan Sanchez

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Ryan White
Ryan White

What can we do with these?

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Adam Scott
Adam Scott

comparing allied lend lendlease in a international war to a bloody fake commie group

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Colton Walker
Colton Walker

socdem flag
anti-ML
makes sense

Zachary Garcia
Zachary Garcia

found the anarcho primitive

Isaac Brooks
Isaac Brooks

чё мелиш?

Leo Ortiz
Leo Ortiz

5/5

Carson Robinson
Carson Robinson

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Lucas Rodriguez
Lucas Rodriguez

new reaction meme

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Hunter Clark
Hunter Clark

only good one

Jonathan Powell
Jonathan Powell

sauce?

Ethan Murphy
Ethan Murphy

bump

Jason Sullivan
Jason Sullivan

wrong thread haaha

Xavier Thomas
Xavier Thomas

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Kevin Thomas
Kevin Thomas

any strass bros here?

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Leo Walker
Leo Walker

Turns out there are people dumber than Ben Garrison, who’d’ve thought?

Aaron Evans
Aaron Evans

Not mine, but still worth posting.

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Sebastian Torres
Sebastian Torres

should I get rid of the text?

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Joshua Gonzalez
Joshua Gonzalez

Not mine, but anyone got anymore commie catgirl pics?

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Owen King
Owen King

That Alyuna, she's an ancom and smells a little. Also Porky gave her a lot of money and she spread her buttcheeks for him and Pepe.

Hunter Powell
Hunter Powell

she's an ancom and smells a little.
Meh, I can deal with that.

Also Porky gave her a lot of money and she spread her buttcheeks for him and Pepe.
I'm sorry, what?

Also, nice digits

Brayden Scott
Brayden Scott

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Charles Bell
Charles Bell

You're gonna get crumbs all over the bed you dumb bitch.

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Ryan Campbell
Ryan Campbell

Meme about AnComs being capitalists or something which I can’t be bothered to find.

Camden Ramirez
Camden Ramirez

is this the two genders?

Jaxson Fisher
Jaxson Fisher

I seriously hope you Yanquis don't de mierda

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Nathaniel Young
Nathaniel Young

what?

Nathan Phillips
Nathan Phillips

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Jacob Wilson
Jacob Wilson

Fuck sake man I come back from the gym and you give me femdom fantasies…

dress her up like a fascist please~

Chase Richardson
Chase Richardson

Someone else made better with the same text but I couldn't find them.

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Gabriel Clark
Gabriel Clark

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Ethan Walker
Ethan Walker

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Liam Rivera
Liam Rivera

Here's a "CalArts" style of Marx that I drew. Forgive me.

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Hunter Hall
Hunter Hall

CalArts
Fucking no, I hope you break all of your fingers and go blind in one eye.

Asher Gutierrez
Asher Gutierrez

wtf is a calarts
also kys, this sort of steven universe animation sucks ass

Julian Garcia
Julian Garcia

Calm down nigga its just a joke. I hated the style, too

Caleb Brooks
Caleb Brooks

Looked it up.
Calarts is an animation school and somehow all their graduates tend to draw in that horrible steven universe style.

Benjamin Martin
Benjamin Martin

Not changing "fuck off" to "hang yourself"

Aaron Collins
Aaron Collins

Do I smell some demand?

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Jeremiah Watson
Jeremiah Watson

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Jordan Scott
Jordan Scott

Is this a new one? Is there an uncensored version?

Eli Reed
Eli Reed

youtube.com/watch?v=ujhImZbroIg

Jacob Foster
Jacob Foster

The absolute state of ☭TANKIE☭s on /leftpol/

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Charles Garcia
Charles Garcia

What the fuck am I looking at? This one in particular is strange out of every Stirner meme in here.

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Henry Lopez
Henry Lopez

It is worth struggling for socialism while the American empire exists, it just makes it 100 times harder. He isn't too far from the truth, I feel like that sometimes too when reading about CIA operations in Latin America.

Charles Thomas
Charles Thomas

thought this was accurate so it was made

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Dominic Reyes
Dominic Reyes

r8

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Jordan Ross
Jordan Ross

slightly improved and corrected

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Andrew Jenkins
Andrew Jenkins

Remember that the CIA aren’t gods, they aren’t all powerful, there an extremely complex bureaucracy, but one that miss manages information all the time and fails due to there own incompetence. For every coup they pulled off theres been plenty where they wanted to pull one off but weren’t able o or they failed, it’s just no one knows about the coups they don’t pull. And most importantly revolution is determed by material conditions. Something the CIA can’t control.

Brody James
Brody James

Oh give me a break

Jonathan Lopez
Jonathan Lopez

I wouldnt consider it canon

Grayson Garcia
Grayson Garcia

Every time a Christcom enters a thread with an argument, this comes to mind

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Nolan Myers
Nolan Myers

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Cooper Lewis
Cooper Lewis

using used diapers to represent communism in China
you didn't think this through, did you?

Joseph Foster
Joseph Foster

China and the USSR
At all comparable
China is litterally a fully market capitalist system.

Jace Martinez
Jace Martinez

Not OC but I found this on Wikipedia.

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Nolan Rodriguez
Nolan Rodriguez

OC

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Grayson Evans
Grayson Evans

One time JK Rowling said Corbyn isn't Dumbledore

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Julian Davis
Julian Davis

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Isaiah Rivera
Isaiah Rivera

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Wyatt Morgan
Wyatt Morgan

put them where they belong

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Jose Diaz
Jose Diaz

it isn't lmao it's a socialist market economy

Juan Fisher
Juan Fisher

“When the government does stuff that’s socialism, the more stuff the government does the more socialist it is.” t (you)

Colton Sanchez
Colton Sanchez

it isn't lmao it's a socialist market economy
With billionaire CEO's and mass worker rights abuse?

Mason Edwards
Mason Edwards

mass worker rights abuse?
You're thinking of some other country, chauvinist.

Levi Scott
Levi Scott

Hahaha bro I lived there for 5 months, I have plenty of chinese friends. I know there is massive workers rights abuse, they all want to get out of there. Working in a chinese company is hell.

Luis Stewart
Luis Stewart

alright buko, you have friends there, sure thing buddy. If chinese working conditions are so bad I wonder why the raises are going up steadily wiht 11% per year? I

It's a socialist party with a DoTp and Worker ownership of the MoP

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Kevin Young
Kevin Young

going up steadily wiht 11%
Because CEO weges increased on 1000%.

Brody Foster
Brody Foster

You don't have to believe me bruv. I worked and lived there for 5 months. And what did you do? Watch turd worldist videos?

Ryder Gonzalez
Ryder Gonzalez

You realize that China has wealth inequality that is greater than even America's, right?

Brandon Adams
Brandon Adams

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Joseph Harris
Joseph Harris

I read up on it and didn't tell people I worked there. Also you can'T project your own subjective experiences (wich I doubt you had) with the economy of the whole country

Also there is a whole blog from an Australian Communist who went to live in China and writes about it and how it is socialist, here is a great blog post from him: stalinsmoustache.org/2017/11/17/discovering-chinese-socialism-a-personal-account/

Socialism does not equate to egalitarian income distribution

cbsnews.com/news/usa-china-income-inequality-economic-research/

America has experienced “a complete collapse of the bottom 50 percent income share in the U.S. between 1978 to 2015,” the authors wrote. “In contrast, and in spite of a similar qualitative trend, the bottom 50 percent share remains higher than the top 1 percent share in 2015 in China.”

About 117 million American adults are living on income that has stagnated at about $16,200 per year before taxes and transfer payments, Piketty, Saez and Zucman found in research published last year.

Meanwhile, economic growth in China has been so strong that – despite widening inequality – the incomes of the bottom 50 percent have also “grown markedly,” the economists wrote. Their analysis found that the poorest half of Chinese workers saw their average income grow more than 400 percent from 1978 to 2015. For their American counterparts, income decreased 1 percent.

“This is likely to make rising inequality much more acceptable” in China, they noted.

Juan Morales
Juan Morales

Bump

Owen Barnes
Owen Barnes

No

Aaron Cooper
Aaron Cooper

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Kevin Fisher
Kevin Fisher

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Alexander Sanchez
Alexander Sanchez

because if we're going to be posting trash memes why not do both sides!

Jonathan Gomez
Jonathan Gomez

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Jason Torres
Jason Torres

Holy shit one of my edits.
Someone actually used it.

Kevin Green
Kevin Green

Made this and posted it somewhere else didn't know there was an OC thread so here you go

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Eli Bennett
Eli Bennett

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Hudson Anderson
Hudson Anderson

Not mine, I just found it but fuck me its aesthetic.

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Isaac Morris
Isaac Morris

but muh american democracy
Holy fucking shit this is burger tier level of retardedness, /leftpol/ can't be this stupid, c-can they?

Caleb Hall
Caleb Hall

It is your creation, it is your fault you gave rise to this abomination.

Lucas Rogers
Lucas Rogers

Yeah yeah, Social Democrat Sanders, but anyone think they could make a socialist version of this?
Idk, “someone else’s labour”, “is this mine” Porky face, etc.

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Justin Adams
Justin Adams

Someone else's paycheck
<Capital gains
Is this mine?
<Is this theirs?

Connor Brown
Connor Brown

looks like shit actually

Alexander Robinson
Alexander Robinson

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Asher Collins
Asher Collins

Replace "Paycheck" with "Labour"

Jason Foster
Jason Foster

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Dominic Rodriguez
Dominic Rodriguez

NO…. they're stupider

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Landon Reed
Landon Reed

Looking for that one political cartoon where it shows a worker and on one side is a union member and on the other side is a KKK guy and it reads “If you don’t talk to him someone else will” Does anyone have it?

Julian Edwards
Julian Edwards

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Cameron Wilson
Cameron Wilson

Bottom right should be "Glasses"

Austin Campbell
Austin Campbell

ok faggots, I asked you about this months ago, but I never managed to download the program.

what video editing soft do you recommend?

I need to add subtitles, hardcode them into video and add some pics into video. I am looking for simples solution. I do not care about licensing, I am not sourcecuck which do not how to use torrents (but I do prefer gimp over photoshop because it's simple and do everything I want it).

meme science must smash meme magic and so on and so on.

Owen Robinson
Owen Robinson

idk lmao try lightworks

Bentley Smith
Bentley Smith

Pirated sony vegas

Jaxson Rodriguez
Jaxson Rodriguez

I suck at graphic manipulation. can someone refine this for me.

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Camden Peterson
Camden Peterson

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Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

what sea do i sail to find ships that carry sony vegas?

Joshua Reyes
Joshua Reyes

torrents.me search in databases of big public trackers. After it returns me some page, I like to redo my search once again in tracker it offered me as first: thepiratebay.org/search/sony vegas/0/99/0

Don't forget to sort by seeders and don't forget to seed your torrent!

Evan Ortiz
Evan Ortiz

FOSS programs I recomend are Kdenlive and Blender. Pirating programs is also good praxis.

John Myers
John Myers

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Luke Richardson
Luke Richardson

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Gavin Walker
Gavin Walker

This old anti-communist comic has some potential to be some good OC.

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Brody Diaz
Brody Diaz

Enjoy a pic of my dog.

She is good KGB agent.

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Ian Ortiz
Ian Ortiz

What a BIG fucking boy

Nolan Phillips
Nolan Phillips

sos is my favorite book of all time

Camden Reyes
Camden Reyes

y'all have weak sauce memes

Xavier Reyes
Xavier Reyes

nice fuckin doggo

Samuel Taylor
Samuel Taylor

Socialism does not equate to egalitarian income distribution
<implying there is a justification for the Chinese billionaires in this statement
Christ, you have to be the biggest brainlet on this board
“This is likely to make rising inequality much more acceptable” in China, they noted.
An economic boom raises standards of living and income regardless, quite being a disingenuous cunt.

Asher Williams
Asher Williams

god is ded

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Zachary Gomez
Zachary Gomez

Some stuff I made for a local meme page.

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Jaxon Lopez
Jaxon Lopez

I made this in 5 minutes in GIMP but I don't think it's very good

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Robert Nelson
Robert Nelson

Someone change this to say “This is Tomorrow”

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Carter Mitchell
Carter Mitchell

That spiderman image is backwards, he takes off the glasses because he doesn't need them cuz spider powers.

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Isaiah Lee
Isaiah Lee

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Charles Stewart
Charles Stewart

Original Version

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Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

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Josiah Jones
Josiah Jones

so now that they aligned themselves with assad ,what will he do them

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Colton Scott
Colton Scott

That's why we need to push for balkanization

William Wood
William Wood

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Grayson Hughes
Grayson Hughes

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Easton Martin
Easton Martin

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Adrian Morgan
Adrian Morgan

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Adam Barnes
Adam Barnes

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Jonathan Robinson
Jonathan Robinson

hahahah

great OC, I like it!

Owen Mitchell
Owen Mitchell

thank you lenin hat user

Xavier Ross
Xavier Ross

muh deng

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Andrew Wilson
Andrew Wilson

better version

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Joshua Jones
Joshua Jones

pedo

Liam Torres
Liam Torres

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Chase Jackson
Chase Jackson

bump

Caleb Mitchell
Caleb Mitchell

Lenin cap
Deng
I don't understand

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Robert Johnson
Robert Johnson

when your entire ideology is a failure and has nothing to show for so you draw an angry meme kicking that guy who hurt your fefes the most by achieving the greatest success of any socialist branch

Oliver Bennett
Oliver Bennett

not knowing about the Dengist who posts on this board with the lenin hat flag

Austin Robinson
Austin Robinson

lurk more and you'll understand

Christopher Lewis
Christopher Lewis

Confirmed by Benjamin Franklin

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Ryder Clark
Ryder Clark

defending a dude who shills for privatization in Cuba and the DPRK

Austin Scott
Austin Scott

I defend China on this board and use the lenin hat, thats why I some people here dislike me

Thank you, stache

Eli Johnson
Eli Johnson

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Jayden Perez
Jayden Perez

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Ian Walker
Ian Walker

Sorry for posting twice

Levi Gonzalez
Levi Gonzalez

Massively underrated

Bentley Perez
Bentley Perez

Can some one make this into a nazbol gang meme? The russian revolution was white nationalist according to malcom x

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Nolan Miller
Nolan Miller

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Grayson Green
Grayson Green

this is what rohavafags actually believe

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Luis Flores
Luis Flores

second pic
too real

Liam Morgan
Liam Morgan

READ STALIN

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Benjamin Hall
Benjamin Hall

when you're still strawmanning strawmen after one year of nobody giving a shit about you autism

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Logan Ramirez
Logan Ramirez

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Angel Campbell
Angel Campbell

y tho

Owen Perez
Owen Perez

horny kids

Blake Gutierrez
Blake Gutierrez

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Luis Fisher
Luis Fisher

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Brody Bell
Brody Bell

Obviously that is supposed to be Trump's hair isn't it?

Blake Taylor
Blake Taylor

i'm very proud of this

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Zachary Price
Zachary Price

Well, it is a Garrison family creation.

Jeremiah Morris
Jeremiah Morris

/discord/index.html

Eli Young
Eli Young

makeagif.com/i/DKAaJG

John Jones
John Jones

nice edit

Lincoln Kelly
Lincoln Kelly

that third image has potential but the art and overall quality is pretty shit

Aiden Moore
Aiden Moore

TANKS ROLLING THROUGH THIRD REICH

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Ethan Cooper
Ethan Cooper

Dumbledore didn't trash Hogwarts, but he did refuse toe resign, (for a valid reason) and yes he did flee and make overtures to trolls and giants…

How does an author not know her own book?

Hunter Powell
Hunter Powell

Jeb memes are really fucking easy to make it's not even funny

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Daniel Watson
Daniel Watson

fuuuuuuuuuuuck I should habeled it ¡Jeb! god damnit

James Roberts
James Roberts

Whoops, I was going to say:

You can always add it on user,

Wyatt Ward
Wyatt Ward

what can we do with this lads?

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Ayden White
Ayden White

Let's have Marx say, "That's not what socialism is, you dunderhead!"; or "I knew it, there's nothing socialist about this ass; it's just a liberal"

Also, I just love how Zyklon Ben referenced Brave New World, which was written by a self-described "Kropotkin-ist"

Nathaniel Diaz
Nathaniel Diaz

A pic dump i've made over time

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Liam Fisher
Liam Fisher

It's so bad I didn't even bother doing a nazbol gang edit.

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Samuel Davis
Samuel Davis

Never wanted to fuck a donkey more in my life.

Jose Jackson
Jose Jackson

Nature is represented as a calm and beautiful woman with a halo, the axe-man is presented as an insecure fool. You're an idiot, m8.

Isaiah Rodriguez
Isaiah Rodriguez

Stop right there lassy, I can't letcha go any furthah.

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Hudson Bell
Hudson Bell

W E R
H A T
U N S
V E R R A T E N ?

S - O - Z - I - A - L - D - E - M - O - K - R - A - T - E - N - !

SPD ins Gas uezs, gebt mir eure besten "memes", ihr Sojaschwuchteln!

Jacob Fisher
Jacob Fisher

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James Gonzalez
James Gonzalez

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Jonathan Gutierrez
Jonathan Gutierrez

Done entirely in ms paint

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Logan Miller
Logan Miller

impressive, but try paint.net or gimp

Oliver Carter
Oliver Carter

i have paint.net and photoshop i just decided to do it in ms paint because it's faster.

Adam Richardson
Adam Richardson

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Robert Rivera
Robert Rivera

hooman nayture

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Jeremiah Myers
Jeremiah Myers

BO DELETE THIS

Oliver Gomez
Oliver Gomez

wew lad

Henry Adams
Henry Adams

youtube.com/channel/UCKT8pJeprm3HGA60Nq0FRMA?view_as=subscriber
youtube.com/watch?v=P31L7I1JUDg
youtube.com/watch?v=VMe8qYl2AEM&t=48s

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Andrew Flores
Andrew Flores

Also worth noting that they participated in the carving up of Czechoslovakia and seized the region of Zaolzie.

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Brayden James
Brayden James

ICYMI I've just posted a giant response to a /pol/yp. It's only the first stab at a very comprehensive response but this is what I have so far.

Jacob Harris
Jacob Harris

I tried

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Christian Jenkins
Christian Jenkins

Did anyone save a meme like this but with bookchin and cockshott?

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Landon Phillips
Landon Phillips

I didn't, have a Zizek one

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Jacob Cox
Jacob Cox

funny about this: anarkiddies and other liberals will argue that poland was right in doing so because it was in majority polish
but don't get confused, it was bad for the soviet union to liberate majority ukrainian territory
and that thing about poland denying the red army passage to come aid the remaining parts of czechoslovakia is also totally neglectable, why would anyone think that'd be an indication for the polish fascists sympathy for germany?

Matthew Brown
Matthew Brown

If Poland had been nice to the soviets during the revolution, none of that would've happened and Nazis would've lost the war earlier

Oliver Lee
Oliver Lee

so you are saying…everything is Poland's fault?

Caleb Smith
Caleb Smith

Poland is a mistake and I live here

Michael Wood
Michael Wood

No, but they sure didn't help

Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

nobody likes poland, befriend a polish person and ask them, if they really like and trust you they'll confirm

Ayden Cook
Ayden Cook

yes.
t. pole

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Asher Gray
Asher Gray

when lolberts dismiss Marx

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Parker Johnson
Parker Johnson

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Justin Nguyen
Justin Nguyen

pajeet memes are literally cancer

Kayden Gutierrez
Kayden Gutierrez

liberal idpol in disguise
BO delet dis!

Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis

socdems will be gulaged

Hunter Brooks
Hunter Brooks

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Brody Rivera
Brody Rivera

t. pajeet

Oliver Scott
Oliver Scott

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Samuel Reyes
Samuel Reyes

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Asher Ward
Asher Ward

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Jaxson Anderson
Jaxson Anderson

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Lincoln Parker
Lincoln Parker


Wow a pajeet meme that isn't utter shit… I'm… surprised

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Lucas Diaz
Lucas Diaz

Requesting someone makes a "SHUT THE FUCK UP LIBERAL" with Phil Ochs

Ryan Brooks
Ryan Brooks

How much essence of NAZBOL GANG should be added to the deep firer?

Gavin Nelson
Gavin Nelson

Keep it clean.

Liam Sanders
Liam Sanders

ingore this nigger we need that shit fried to the fucking core

Kayden Sullivan
Kayden Sullivan

Pick a phil

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Ryan James
Ryan James

both are neat, well done

Aiden Brown
Aiden Brown

KICK THAT SHIT UP A NOTCH

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Jace Young
Jace Young

Very nice, thank you user.

David Taylor
David Taylor

Requesting a 'Jacinda Ardern in NZbol gang'

newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/10/homelessness-proves-capitalism-is-a-blatant-failure-jacinda-ardern.html
radionz.co.nz/news/political/337191/video-ardern-committed-to-cutting-immigration-numbers

Jacob Fisher
Jacob Fisher

How deep fried?

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

Whatever will be fine. :)

Andrew Gonzalez
Andrew Gonzalez

will this do?

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Andrew Miller
Andrew Miller

Nice.

Henry Mitchell
Henry Mitchell

NZ against Israel
could also apply that to Lorde and how she cancelled her Israel tour.

Jordan Martinez
Jordan Martinez

bump

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Zachary Lopez
Zachary Lopez

Fresh off the presses

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Lincoln Morales
Lincoln Morales

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Josiah Howard
Josiah Howard

Holy shit what the fuck is this????

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Brayden Anderson
Brayden Anderson

Jesus fucking christ, this one should be ban worthy

Ryder Martin
Ryder Martin

Why?

Logan Walker
Logan Walker

Because is reddit "MUH WHITE" shit

Luke Sullivan
Luke Sullivan

youtube.com/watch?v=uFziPRdA0JE
please somebody make a posadist parody of this

Brandon Morris
Brandon Morris

exploitable?

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Elijah Wright
Elijah Wright

youtube.com/watch?v=8Yzq1VSfijs
I know it's shit but even this is beyond what I thought I was capable of.

Daniel Hernandez
Daniel Hernandez

Lol that’s brainlet-tier shit

Asher Moore
Asher Moore

China's goverment Dosent just "Do stuff" the DoP controls all of the MoP within the country and only leases out land and property to Buisness running under a capitalist model in order for development to occur

It is impossible for a nation still stuck in what was basically feudalism to make an immediate jump to a lower stage communist (Socialist) Model of production
China Vietnam and Laos learned this and have thus strived to develop a Social Democratic market economy as to allow china to build up to the point a transition to socialism can be made
Other states that started off feudalistic which had socialist revolutions (Africa basically Cuba etc) that attempted to copy paste the USSRs development model failed miserably
Thus why the ML states of Africa collapsed and why Cuba learned from its mistakes and has begun to embrace its own Social Democrat Market economy

Landon Collins
Landon Collins

Beautiful,thank you

Colton Edwards
Colton Edwards

China's goverment Dosent just "Do stuff" the DoP controls all of the MoP
China is not a dictatorship of the proletariat.

Joshua Edwards
Joshua Edwards

Bolsheviks supported the sovereignty of other ethnicites of the Russian empire but ok

Evan Adams
Evan Adams

the F35 competitor was the Boeing X-32

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Camden Cruz
Camden Cruz

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Evan Jackson
Evan Jackson

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Hunter Miller
Hunter Miller

enjoy

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Jason Robinson
Jason Robinson

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Bentley Russell
Bentley Russell

Fucking ugly, but look how happy it is

Luke Roberts
Luke Roberts

blatantly obvious propaganda sounding like something out of a McCarthyist 50's propaganda film
"TRUNEWS"

It's fucking baffling to think that somewhere, someone is actually dumb enough to buy that snake oil. This is why we need gulags

Andrew Perez
Andrew Perez

5000 hours on photoshop

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Kayden Phillips
Kayden Phillips

What are they reading?

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Luis Nguyen
Luis Nguyen

girls
They aren't
(This post brought to you by INCEL GANG)

Ian Green
Ian Green

Here some of my latest maymays. Enjoy.

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Christopher White
Christopher White

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Jonathan Robinson
Jonathan Robinson

this has potential

Evan Green
Evan Green

it didn't post

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Jaxon Howard
Jaxon Howard

Your thoughts, frens?

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Eli Perez
Eli Perez

I hope screenshots count.

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Noah Parker
Noah Parker

A few more and one got cut for some reason

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Adrian Wright
Adrian Wright

There ya go!

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Grayson Richardson
Grayson Richardson

is that the guy that asked people for illegal porn to own the libs?

Grayson Walker
Grayson Walker

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Landon Cook
Landon Cook

go wild

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Blake Bell
Blake Bell

you bully

Juan Harris
Juan Harris

ay pal fok u

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Brayden Cox
Brayden Cox

obligatory

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Caleb Nguyen
Caleb Nguyen

huehuehuehuhuehue

Chase Ross
Chase Ross

Does any one have that photo of amanda from little witch academia where she is holding a book from hegel?

Jason Davis
Jason Davis

this meme is getting old

Henry Reed
Henry Reed

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Luis Williams
Luis Williams

Don't bully Redamerican's gf :c
She didn do nuffin but revisionism idpol

Noah Evans
Noah Evans

tit for tat

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Mason Ramirez
Mason Ramirez

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Mason Mitchell
Mason Mitchell

I have Akko, not Amanda
is this what you're thinking of?

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Logan Richardson
Logan Richardson

Not OC, but still useful.

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Michael Williams
Michael Williams

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Lucas Myers
Lucas Myers

Yeah like that but with amanda. Its basicly this image but with her holding thr book.

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Jack Stewart
Jack Stewart

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Julian Campbell
Julian Campbell

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Samuel Butler
Samuel Butler

communist cracker cumskin people
lel

Isaiah Roberts
Isaiah Roberts

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Oliver Martin
Oliver Martin

when u have markets, private industry, wage labour, no DotP, imperialism in Africa, and sell weapons to anti-communist regimes around the globe but dengists will defend you anyway

Colton Jones
Colton Jones

being this revisionist

they're a rival imperialist power. If your ""socialism"" has imperialism and upholds Israel, you need to reread Marx & Lenin

Carson Russell
Carson Russell

higher wages is socialism

wow I guess scandanavia is socialist too

Dylan Green
Dylan Green

MASHALLAH MASHALLAH

Lincoln Morgan
Lincoln Morgan

well, a lot of liberals call themselves anarchists because it sounds cooler. the same kind of people that stretch the definition of vegan so they can fit into it.

Aiden Thomas
Aiden Thomas

Super fucking gay. Ironic humor's backfire factor hasn't been this visible in a long while.

Tyler Clark
Tyler Clark

fuck le irony kids. Ironic humor is the wothless.
worst part is the proponents of it and all the irony posters (i'm looking at you, all leftypol related discords) act like it's this profound thing that you don't understand.

Jayden Nelson
Jayden Nelson

done in 2 minutes

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Dominic King
Dominic King

1 Trillion Hours in MS Paint

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Robert Phillips
Robert Phillips

anyone have that Democrat Cops of America/Jacobin cartoon that shows Democrat Cops of America members all lounging around drinking champagne?

Juan Flores
Juan Flores

could someone PLEASE make a webm with the clip of Zizek talking about fleshlights and dildos

James Morgan
James Morgan

Most original thing I have ever seen in my life

Leo Hernandez
Leo Hernandez

Love it

Oliver Cruz
Oliver Cruz

not mine but worth reposting for memes

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Matthew Wilson
Matthew Wilson

Requesting an image explaining the law of value using the example of the price of burgers.

Caleb Johnson
Caleb Johnson

Dude she's a fucking trot and she also is against Assad and wants NATO intervention there (Muh Putin and Russia ally so he must die as well).

Anthony Wood
Anthony Wood

this one always triggers hard

added a literal for you bro

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Hunter Sanders
Hunter Sanders

this one?

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Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

I always love when Ben Garrison edits take the labeling to the extreme.

Carson Ortiz
Carson Ortiz

Yeah that's it. Thanks my dude.

Elijah Parker
Elijah Parker

anyone got that edit of homer simpsons closing the garage door on ned flanders with the DDR and BRD flags?

Justin Davis
Justin Davis

I don't but you can have these Simpsons memes instead

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Xavier Turner
Xavier Turner

be the most ‘Successful’ socialist state by becoming the most brutally effective at ensuring the survival of capitalism, inspiring many nations worldwide to eventually do the same as we inch closer to major catastrophe

Nathan Green
Nathan Green

Not mine but it's pretty good

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Jason Jackson
Jason Jackson

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Robert Taylor
Robert Taylor

Some ECON 101 about surplus value

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Sebastian Turner
Sebastian Turner

Can someone with photoshop redo this with an Ayatollah or Arabian socialist leaders face instead of Obama's? Or point me to a similar meme?

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Dominic Miller
Dominic Miller

Fresh OC out of the presses. Not very leftypol related, but what the hell.

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Andrew Jenkins
Andrew Jenkins

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Caleb King
Caleb King

The Humungus? The Lord Humungus? The warrior of the wasteland?
Ayatollah
Of rock and rolla?

Ian Russell
Ian Russell

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Gavin Evans
Gavin Evans

AAAAAAH THIS IS SO FUCKING BAD PLEASE GET RID OF IT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

Christopher Myers
Christopher Myers

Why?

Xavier Collins
Xavier Collins

Close enough I guess

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Jayden Morgan
Jayden Morgan

a sequel to "humans vs orcs"

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Joseph Martin
Joseph Martin

Jesus was a vampire daywalker who hunted kikes like Blade
my fucking sides

Isaac Clark
Isaac Clark

Based

Grayson Morales
Grayson Morales

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Benjamin Carter
Benjamin Carter

first pic
Looks more like Matriarchy.
On a side note I consider masculine features to be more indicative of homosexuality then simply having a dick or not. Those women I consider to be more gay than a femboy tbqhwyf.

Dylan Morales
Dylan Morales

Where do I find bidet spray and how will my family accept it?

Jackson Johnson
Jackson Johnson

no u, anarcho primitive did nothong worng

ur still gay tho

Ayden Reed
Ayden Reed

could JBP be anymore of an insufferable prick? He's gone from telling teenagers to clean their rooms to saying women don't want to work but raise children and now he's saying the Jews invented "cultural bolshev-" er, "Marxism." Anyone who thinks he's based needs to be fuckin fed to the lobsters

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Ian Foster
Ian Foster

I really like it, but I would put some of the most important soviet accomplishments during his era instead of those pics

Samuel Garcia
Samuel Garcia

the absolute state of /islam/

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Kevin Allen
Kevin Allen

holeee fuck, the amazing thing about reactionaries is when they create these fucking layers of ideology, to the point where you're reading their arguments among one another, and you end up rooting for a fascist or an ancap or someone, because at least they think US wars are "Jewish" or "crony capitalism," unlike MAGA boomers or apparently braindamaged Salafi shitposters.

Anthony Myers
Anthony Myers

He literally made his son try to suicide

Parker Cooper
Parker Cooper

thehill.com/opinion/finance/402073-elizabeth-warren-and-the-new-communism?amp

HOTTEST TAKE OF ALL TIME! ELECTING YOUR OWN RESPONSIBLE DICTATORS IS GOMMUNISM!

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Isaac Kelly
Isaac Kelly

(me)

Sorry wrong thread

Brody Taylor
Brody Taylor

I made a couple things in photoshop. The Korean writing says "anti-fascist".

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Wyatt Barnes
Wyatt Barnes

Amanda only reads good anarchist literature.

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Chase Reyes
Chase Reyes

What's the reference?

Brayden Peterson
Brayden Peterson

I was flipping through simulacra and simulation and I had to

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Jonathan Johnson
Jonathan Johnson

Special kind of socialism where you privatize stuff
So… Literally socialism without the central aspect of socialism
Nice

Cameron Diaz
Cameron Diaz

I don't know if this counts as Zig Forums but I quickly put together this entry-level agitprop for normies since summer is ending and education will be back in people's minds.

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Zachary Kelly
Zachary Kelly

Not bad, but get rid of that shitty meme face on top. It looks VERY dated.

Hudson Diaz
Hudson Diaz

And I thought old school memes were making a comeback.

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Lucas Cook
Lucas Cook

Combat memefaggotry

Sebastian Gonzalez
Sebastian Gonzalez

Screwed up resizing. Fixed version. Zig Forums is being autistic with post deletion.

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Liam Hall
Liam Hall

Just look at the retardation in this thread:
desuarchive.org/islam/thread/23585/
Iran is secretly working with the Zionists and America
Hezbollah are the border guards of Israel
a united Kurdish ethnostate is good because it hurts 3 Shia countries and one Sunni country
it is haraam to overthrow al-Saud because they are Muslim rulers, if you disagree you are Khawarij
we need detente with Israel to fight the Shias
muh Shia are all doing taqiyya

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Andrew Wood
Andrew Wood

Not mine but I love it

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Chase Fisher
Chase Fisher

Needs sources on the bottom, tbh. Shorthand tho not full fucking urls or something.

Nathan Davis
Nathan Davis

How about this? Two screenshots were taken from Business Insider and I decided to replace them with primary sources. Washington Post is terrible at choosing concise titles and even worse at choosing concise URLs but I can't substitute it because its primary source is a database.

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Anthony Foster
Anthony Foster

every Muslim in my engineering program is Sunni, and they're really friendly and nice to me.

Landon Morales
Landon Morales

Finished editing this pic basically to send to /pol/acks and make them reee.

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Kevin Bell
Kevin Bell

Jason Unruhe is an INTEGRALIST ANAUÊ!

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Jacob Martin
Jacob Martin

anarchists won't stop proving over and over that they are merely pedophiles who fetishize anime children

Zachary Thomas
Zachary Thomas

Robbie Rott is dead, can someone make something to honour the life of the most famous NazBol of all?

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Zachary Long
Zachary Long

This is more about Wahhabis rather than ordinary Sunnis.

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Josiah Clark
Josiah Clark

when leninhatposter doesn't live in china

oh sure it's super socialist

Luke Phillips
Luke Phillips

also literally only posting headlines & no content

Ryan Howard
Ryan Howard

if humanity finds a way to get off of earth, earthchan will be forever happy
good thing we will get space boosters and shit when we kill whitey

Bentley Cruz
Bentley Cruz

what if we dont participate in the capitalist system?
there will be no demand since we are legion, and prices will go down
it wont even matter to us because the concept of the oppressive hierarchy of a college system is centralized and also facist
since the value of the average college scholarship is down, we will be better off anyways

Bentley Morris
Bentley Morris

For your shitposting convenience

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Benjamin Myers
Benjamin Myers

I believe Stefan reposts comments form people since they are like that on all his videos.

Samuel Phillips
Samuel Phillips

if u give me a sauce on that i'll replace it with some other picture

Zachary Nelson
Zachary Nelson

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Jayden Perez
Jayden Perez

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Liam Roberts
Liam Roberts

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Lucas Morales
Lucas Morales

Somebody requested this in the Commiecat thread but I fell asleep before I could upload it.

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Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

fresh tomokos

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Tyler Bailey
Tyler Bailey

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Landon Thomas
Landon Thomas

cant we get some spicy OC of porky getting fem dom'd class'd by alunya?

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Cameron Young
Cameron Young

no. literally every half decent artist left this shithole

Mason Ross
Mason Ross

Was going to add more to this, but after 4 days of working on it I'm a bit sick of it.

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Noah Turner
Noah Turner

picks a fight
my sides

Justin Ward
Justin Ward

lel

Nicholas Lewis
Nicholas Lewis

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Xavier Reyes
Xavier Reyes

You've done well.

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Gavin Wilson
Gavin Wilson

I really really like this thread.

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Oliver Bell
Oliver Bell

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Hunter Taylor
Hunter Taylor

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Liam Gray
Liam Gray

Kekd hard

Joseph Wood
Joseph Wood

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Angel Jackson
Angel Jackson

is that hanako

Henry Hughes
Henry Hughes

yeus

Liam Garcia
Liam Garcia

i love whoever made this gif
that wink is just too perfect with that raised eyebrow reaction
and i dont even have any idea whats going on

Parker Harris
Parker Harris

they're gonna rape ya

Bentley Cox
Bentley Cox

I understand what you mean, but normal people won't understand this. There are important and less important things to do. The threat by a single worker to withdraw is a reference point for salary negotiation on a one-to-one basis. Workers threatening to withdraw as a group have more power than just that individual threat multiplied by their number. Some might say that workers organizing like that are a cartel, a distortion, etc. and shouldn't exist; but this distortion, this group power, this group productivity, already exists in the hands of the boss who can threaten to withdraw the means of production. The threat of strike from a group of workers is treated as an aggression, but the threat of strike from the side of the boss class is what you have every day.

Hunter Gomez
Hunter Gomez

Amazing

Jaxson Flores
Jaxson Flores

fresh new OC from 4 /g/

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James Nelson
James Nelson

Wake up wagie, time for work
If you're late boss will go berserk

Drink that protein shake
Go quickly for that last bathroom break

5 minutes early getting into the cage
maybe boss will give a raise!

Sweat and toil, inside the warehouse maze
Dodging robots that act crazed

The shift bell dings, my work is over
Time to go drink until hungover

Nicholas Ross
Nicholas Ross

Wake up wagie, time for work > 7 syllables
If you're late boss will go berserk > 8 syllables

Drink that protein shake > 5 syllables
Go quickly for that last bathroom break > 9 syllables

5 minutes early getting into the cage > 11 syllables
maybe boss will give a raise! > 7 syllables

Sweat and toil, inside the warehouse maze > 10 syllables
Dodging robots that act crazed > 7 syllables

The shift bell dings, my work is over > 9 syllables
Time to go drink until hungover > 9 syllables
Good rhyme scheme, bad iambic pentameter.
6/10 D+

Eli Bailey
Eli Bailey

Fixed it a bit

Wake up Wagie, its time for work
If you're late, boss will go berserk

Drink up that protein shake,
hurry to that bathroom break

5 minutes early to the cage
Maybe boss will give a raise

Sweat n toil, inside the warehouse maze
dodging bots that act all crazed

The shift bell dings, work is over
time to drink until I'm hungover

Gavin King
Gavin King

Iraqi flag design I thought of when looking up stuff about Qasim

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Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

pedo shit
Go back to /loli/index.html /pol/

Oliver Collins
Oliver Collins

the hell are you taking

Robert Garcia
Robert Garcia

Those are from /commiecat/index.html which was created by /pol/ to mock alunya, but no-one uses it.

Oliver Barnes
Oliver Barnes

they weren't created by /pol/ user

Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson

why there a banana?

Lucas Peterson
Lucas Peterson

that's a sword user

Carson Williams
Carson Williams

Eichmann isn't pleased with Holocaust deniers

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Wyatt Sullivan
Wyatt Sullivan

Requesting nazbol gang edit

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Logan Hughes
Logan Hughes

Does anyone have the turningpoint CPC memes?

Kevin Myers
Kevin Myers

Brunner is not pleased with "I was only following orders"

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Xavier Russell
Xavier Russell

is this a deja vu? did the reply get deleted?

Luis Martin
Luis Martin

based and redpilled, here's a free memeball

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Samuel Robinson
Samuel Robinson

you have to go back /pol/

Nolan Collins
Nolan Collins

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Matthew Garcia
Matthew Garcia

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Ethan Smith
Ethan Smith

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Daniel Flores
Daniel Flores

Did an updated version of this

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Lucas Morgan
Lucas Morgan

communism saving us from SJW and Video game "journalism"
It's not working.

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Leo Watson
Leo Watson

implying that "hijacking" "anti-terrorism research projects" is a bad thing
Just love it when /pol/ lets the mask slip and every one gets to see just how much of their ideology is lame milquetoast American conservatism straight out of the suburbs.

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Jose Jackson
Jose Jackson

defending common core/feminism forced into games.
no answer for blatant marxism being taught by your idpol SJW friends

Nicholas Campbell
Nicholas Campbell

they wrote "marxism" in the title and used a picture
clearly they're promoting marxism
you naive child

Michael Cook
Michael Cook

they're not promoting marxism
What a weak answer. It really says something about the left when even minorities are siding with Not Socialists.

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Colton Wilson
Colton Wilson

it speaks volumes that you think anything you posted or could post would prove that they're promoting marxism
you don't even know the basics of it yourself
do you really think you accomplish anything but embarrassing yourself with this? wrong audience, my child

Daniel Thomas
Daniel Thomas

You heard it here first folks, charity from a billionaire is communism, Bill Gates is a communist. Common Core was invented by Karltual Marx at the Talmudic Frankelstein School along with Joseph Engleninberg-tse Jung to subvert and destroy video games, western culture, and make my math homework suck even more.

Blake Hill
Blake Hill

/r/ing a "Yung Marx - Syrup Plus Value" hip hop album cover

James Rivera
James Rivera

last pic
what is this supposed to mean?

Cameron Wilson
Cameron Wilson

Something about ⛏️rotsky, I guess

Ian Morgan
Ian Morgan

Face tattoos and grill are a plus

Blake Miller
Blake Miller

stirner and beauvoir

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Leo James
Leo James

Nice art, user

James Diaz
James Diaz

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Kayden Wood
Kayden Wood

2658456
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Fuck off /pol/

Christopher Fisher
Christopher Fisher

2658458
Ok I loled

Charles Adams
Charles Adams

2658480
Still get blacked anyways

Blake Hall
Blake Hall

friendly visitor posts the first funny memes this board has ever seen
suicidal tranny mod returns things to the grim, boring status quo
The best posts on this board are always /pol/, no exceptions.

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Evan Thomas
Evan Thomas

Sorry, Pepe stopped being a contrarian meme years ago. So did Tay, so did just about anything you can dig up from KYM and ED. Or, in words that you can actually understand:
BURGIGIIGIGGOGIGGOIGOGIGOGIGO!

Jacob Jenkins
Jacob Jenkins

The swastika is a contrarian meme. The hammer and sickle is a popular MTV money-making symbol. The hammer and sickle aren't listed on the ADL or other super-powerful websites as a banned hate symbol.

Pepe, yes, pepe, is. Pepe's been a bad bad boy.

leftism: literally Jeff Bezos
rightism: literally Hitler

Easy choice, for someone looking for change, who is a non-conformist.

Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

I made a fresh one from that bait thread.

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Oliver Watson
Oliver Watson

Beautiful

Aaron Ward
Aaron Ward

tfw you realize Hyde is a Trot

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Nathaniel Foster
Nathaniel Foster

(OP) (you)

Levi Moore
Levi Moore

My first ever contribution, take good care of it lads

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Camden Ward
Camden Ward

SAM HYDE IS NATTROT GANG

Noah Ross
Noah Ross

Hot off the presses.

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Connor Sanchez
Connor Sanchez

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Grayson Sanders
Grayson Sanders

leftism: jeff bezos
The hammer and sickle is a popular MTV money-making symbol

this is your mind on /pol/.

Tyler Evans
Tyler Evans

Defends his Broz
You have to complete this meme, user.

Christian Morgan
Christian Morgan

Alright, I added a little bit more to make the ending seem more natural. I can't really add all the people I wanted to, though. That would take way too long.

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Ryan Green
Ryan Green

I wonder if a good agitprop tactic is to call poltards Liberals when they start advocating for their bootlicker policies

Charles Carter
Charles Carter

Mapfag reporting in
People's Socialist Atlas by Upvoteanthology
sites.google.com/site/peoplessocialistatlas/home

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Jordan Jenkins
Jordan Jenkins

deterministic approach to history

This is the most autistic thing I've read all my life.

Read a fucking book.

Blake Gonzalez
Blake Gonzalez

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Benjamin Lee
Benjamin Lee

We need Nevada and Utah though, it’s where the Uranium reserves are.

Kevin Davis
Kevin Davis

Interesting, but not entirely accurate. The Gulags were not great places to be, even if they were massively progressive for their time. Local implementation is hard to check.

Michael Brooks
Michael Brooks

Will the mods add some banners if we upload some here?

Brandon Morales
Brandon Morales

based

Anthony Scott
Anthony Scott

prager u is retarded but the graphic's pretty cute

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Gavin Walker
Gavin Walker

yes, /pol/yps are retarded and full of themselves

Andrew Reed
Andrew Reed

I wonder how many retards in the comments tried to "correct" this part by pointing out that Islam is communist.

Ryder Parker
Ryder Parker

Or even how Judaism is Communist as well.

Joshua Green
Joshua Green

I really don't like the name. A radical marxist revolutionary government formed in that period, such as the one formed in the Russian Empire, ought to have a suitably internationalist national character. There's a reason Lenin and the former RSDLP chose "Soviet Union" instead of "Union of Russian Socialist Republics", despite all four founding countries of the Union being former Russian territories for centuries. The situation would be very similar in a country as nationally diverse as the United States especially when many of the socialist organizers of the period spoke English as a second language and native populations still de facto held large autonomous territories themselves (which socialist platforms have always, to my knowledge, committed to uphold and respect).
I personally prefer the name De Leon gave to the hypothetical American socialist state: the Industrial Commonwealth. Like the Soviet Union (Council Union) it suggests no particular national lineage, but communicates a strong allegiance to organizations of working people (in the Soviet Union's case an allegiance to the industrial/municipal councils, in the Industrial Commonwealth's case an allegiance to the universally organized Industrial working class which makes sense in a more heavily industrialized and unionized country like the United States at the time).

As for flags, stars and stripes have to go. There's a reason the Bolsheviks didn't simply adopt a republican tricolor and even banned nationally-identifying symbols like the Russian Eagle. Keeping these symbols would be equivalent to the rebellious Thirteen Colonies using the English Lion or a Union Jack in their coat of arms and national banner, or the Jacobins retaining a Fleur De Lis on the Tricolor.

So I imagine this new state as the Industrial Commonwealth, with a flag that has a plain red field punctuated either in the center or canton with a symbol of the industrial working class and artisans, a simple hammer and gear in white or gold, maybe a torch.

Aiden Collins
Aiden Collins

I want to make a flag like Vologda with a red field but the outstretched arms of the Worker and Kolkhoz Woman in profile coming in from the bottom left, painted in color.
I think this aesthetic is unconventional but really pleasing. Similarly, I wanted full color portraits of Watt, Ricardo and Marx on a red field in a similar fashion to the famous Marx, Engels, Lenin portraits.
Sadly I like the skill or resources to do that.

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Blake Smith
Blake Smith

prageru_who_is_karl_marx
America’s was far from the prisionhouse of nations Russia was.

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Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

tfw no dark skinned, communist gf
it hurts

Tyler Clark
Tyler Clark

nearly a thousand likes

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Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams

that comment

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Leo Foster
Leo Foster

user she looks retarded

Evan Price
Evan Price

Reminder that Cuba blows the Dominican Republic and Haiti out of the water when it comes to quality of life. Just cause it's not western Europe doesn't make it a bad country to live in.

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Charles Roberts
Charles Roberts

stop trying to rehabilitate belarussian putin as /ourguy/, he is in the pockets of oligarchs just like most eastern european politicians

Isaac Baker
Isaac Baker

The grammar is also completely fucked too, which makes it perfect.

Christopher Collins
Christopher Collins

Marx is cute! CUTE!

Parker Jones
Parker Jones

holy fuck it's a reaction image you sperg
calm your farm

Dominic Sullivan
Dominic Sullivan

Also reminder that the last time the HDI of DPRK was calculated by UNDP was in 1995, during the Arduous March.
Even in such a time it was 0.766.

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Grayson Gomez
Grayson Gomez

why do pol boomers all write like baboon poster?
they always have that really distinct and weird writing style and it brands them as retarded
even if they said something that isn't complete insane bullshit, just the way they post makes it already look like someone out of a loony bin
i'm into bondage, does that make me a liberal?

Jaxson Jenkins
Jaxson Jenkins

Its IHDI is higher than Mexico's but you'll never hear people talk about poverty in Mexico the way they do about the DPRK

Ryder Wood
Ryder Wood

/pol/tards are overwhelmingly schizos, dropouts, ESL comprador bourgeoisie (the latin american internet is crawling with them) who want to see their country invaded by the US and other types of human refuse

Elijah Sanders
Elijah Sanders

Can someone put this Koneko in a soviet pioneers uniform?

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Juan Powell
Juan Powell

I need an interkosmos edit STAT

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Landon Hall
Landon Hall

Time for some new Zyklon Been edits

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Grayson Powell
Grayson Powell

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Jason Gray
Jason Gray

Tried it

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Caleb Long
Caleb Long

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Sebastian Young
Sebastian Young

Thanks a million have this 'Rabia post

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Dylan James
Dylan James

Garrison is more and more of an open nazi, ain't he?

Landon Richardson
Landon Richardson

does pic related have a leftypol edit?

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Jackson Sanders
Jackson Sanders

Fresh off the press.

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Brody Cox
Brody Cox

kek too real

Gabriel Hernandez
Gabriel Hernandez

(not OC)

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Alexander Fisher
Alexander Fisher

Oi!
That's MY OC.
Say "Heil V.I Adolf Guevara" or I'll have the NazBol Police lock you up.

Owen Phillips
Owen Phillips

We're always on the outside
On the outside, always looking in
We never know how fortunes are made
For the sun, when it shines,
finds us still in the shade
We're always on the ebb tide
But we'll keep on trying till we win
For we know some day we're gonna be on the inside
Instead of the outside always looking in

We're very ordinary people
We never make any fuss
We're the easy going kind
If you look around you'll find
There's a million like us

Hey Mister with a million pounds and kind of nervous indigestion
Rich mister, with everything in life, I'd like to ask just one question:
<Why you silly so-and-so with all your dough
<Are you having any fun?
<Whad'ya gettin' out of living?
<What good is all what you got if you're not having any fun?

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Julian Cox
Julian Cox

top kek I should've assumed it came from leftypol

Chase Adams
Chase Adams

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Liam Baker
Liam Baker

Y'all niggas might have heard about how Brazil might soon elect Trump's even more retarded twin. So I've been thinking of doing some inforgraphs about him. I think I can research and write well enough, but I know jack shit about making it look any decent at all. So I'm looking for someone experienced with collages, montages, infographs etc. to put together something appealing. if I don't find anyone, I guess I'll just pick a pic to use as background and do a dozen small infodumps instead of one big one.

Adrian Taylor
Adrian Taylor

Made this for anyone in the SOCDEMGANG

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James Moore
James Moore

nice

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Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

I'm kind of drunk right now, but would you guys agree with this portrayal?

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Christian Lewis
Christian Lewis

Fuck no.

Jaxson Campbell
Jaxson Campbell

Fascists are consequentalists too, you horseshoeing dip.

Deontologists get the fuck out.

Hudson Carter
Hudson Carter

fresh one

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Wyatt Watson
Wyatt Watson

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Angel Johnson
Angel Johnson

make your shit

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Jacob Bennett
Jacob Bennett

I think it was Zig Forums OC so I'm requesting if anyone has the Anwar Shaikh clip of him explaining the rise of neoclassical theory/marginalism and the shifting of the central point of focus to meeting consumer demands and the free choices they have in buying and selling.

Jeremiah James
Jeremiah James

dsss.be/hitler-vs-stalin/

Aaron Wood
Aaron Wood

I don't know if this was OC but I've seen people post an image around here. It's a quote in white letters on a black background. The quote is something to the effect of "The thought of revolution becomes an obsession for the revolutionary. He becomes the enemy of society itself." The actual quote is much longer. I don't remember who it was attributed to but if anyone has this image please share it. Thanks.

Jayden Butler
Jayden Butler

holy shit, found it within 5 minutes of making this post.

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Christian Reed
Christian Reed

stumbled upon this quote
I don't know about that picture, but, whatever

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Aaron Ramirez
Aaron Ramirez

Cleaned it up a bit.
Anyone got any idea what font is similar to that one?

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Jace Powell
Jace Powell

Made a tribute to christcom poster

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Austin Morris
Austin Morris

resized a bit

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Matthew Kelly
Matthew Kelly

It would make more sense putting mosley to say that he's drinking aryan blood

Logan Gutierrez
Logan Gutierrez

National syndicalism is pretty based and redpilled fuck you

Jacob Jenkins
Jacob Jenkins

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Lucas Rogers
Lucas Rogers

Extended edition

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Noah Wright
Noah Wright

No, because welfare and choice (and also deontology and consequentialism) are not poles on the same axis.

You do not trade welfare for choice in a zero sum game, and deontology mixed with consequentialism in any degree is actually self-defeating and incoherent. The latter are different in kind from each other, and the former are completely unrelated unless you blindly believe that people are too stupid to decide things for themselves or you believe that economic democracy reduces choice rather than improves it.

Michael Long
Michael Long

So I made this, but I think the text might be uninspired and generic.
Any suggestions?

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Isaac Gray
Isaac Gray

hmmmm

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William Howard
William Howard

I've seized a template, go wild comr8s

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Jeremiah Williams
Jeremiah Williams

Doesn't our favorite basque space program deserve some OC for dealing with Carrero Blanco?

Cameron Fisher
Cameron Fisher

burnvic fag here, her skin needs more bumpy or wrinkly, mine is bumpy, but I've seen wrinkly too

Oliver Johnson
Oliver Johnson

while i do love me some thicccc ass, i don't really understand that this is supposed to be used for?

Henry Rodriguez
Henry Rodriguez

It's a meme template, basically you write some political or humorous facts on it, so I thought it would be good for that, similar to: lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=got_milk

Thomas Powell
Thomas Powell

SOurces>?!

Liam Parker
Liam Parker

lots of sources here:
espressostalinist.com/the-real-stalin-series/gulag/

Josiah Campbell
Josiah Campbell

There is an archive link in that image which leads to this:

Liam Fisher
Liam Fisher

ok, ok, sorry, I sobered up, and I think I see the error of my ways. please enjoy this entirely non-original picture as compensation.

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Isaac Nelson
Isaac Nelson

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Cameron Sanchez
Cameron Sanchez

2704488
redde redditi quae sunt redditis.

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Colton Murphy
Colton Murphy

actually, could you explain the abortion debate then? (t. pro-abortion consequentialist)

Gabriel Powell
Gabriel Powell

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Ethan Rivera
Ethan Rivera

Is Lenin saying that moral fagging is gay?

Aaron Sanchez
Aaron Sanchez

god the modern left is such a fucking joke how do they not see how retarded they look?

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Ryan Cruz
Ryan Cruz

Yes. Too many modern MLs forget that. LGBTQ issues should not be a prominent part of a party platform.

David Allen
David Allen

Too many modern MLs forget that
Who the fuck does? Self-proclaimed "communists" from r/communism?

Joseph Mitchell
Joseph Mitchell

reposting since it was deleted for no reason.

The meme (template) here is the same as the Mega milk one: lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=mega_milk

I'm posting a (shitty) example

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Luke Sanchez
Luke Sanchez

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Jacob Ward
Jacob Ward

where is franco though
also iron guard

6/10 meme

Jack Hall
Jack Hall

fresh brezhnev memes off the press

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Carter Young
Carter Young

I love this and appreciate you.

Easton Bell
Easton Bell

Different take on a Union of Britain flag and a chavismo board flag that will never be added ==;_;==

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Landon Ramirez
Landon Ramirez

this is good though thank you

Jace Bell
Jace Bell

Eco Maoist flag I made in paint

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Nathaniel Ross
Nathaniel Ross

you cropped the logo wrong

the edges are all red

Levi Brown
Levi Brown

mises-media.s3.amazonaws.com/Keynes the Man_2.pdf?file=1&type=document
read this

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Michael Flores
Michael Flores

pls help me clean, when i fill the red parts on the logo with green it looks like shit

Jonathan Harris
Jonathan Harris

There you go. Not perfect, but better.

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Brandon Morris
Brandon Morris

posting an attack on keynes on a COMMUNIST board
a shitty attack no less full of ad hominems
as expected from ancaps

Lucas Brooks
Lucas Brooks

Here.

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Jason Baker
Jason Baker

thanks bud

Nathaniel Rodriguez
Nathaniel Rodriguez

How's this

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Thomas Martin
Thomas Martin

put a Democrat Cops of America logo on r/ChapoTrapHouse instead of a Hammer and Sickle and it's perfect

Charles King
Charles King

He only has paint and I'm too lazy to do it.

Caleb Lopez
Caleb Lopez

Weirdly funny. But what the hell is context?

Easton Reyes
Easton Reyes

Bernie is outraged at Trump's anti cumming policies.

Christopher White
Christopher White

Bernie did an AMA on reddit and someone asked him what his favourite book was, to which he answered by shilling his own book he recently published.

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

not that user but here's a halfassed attempt

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Jose Cruz
Jose Cruz

Are there any right wingers that bring forth any halfway decent critiques of Marxism? Because I'm so sick of it all being the most basic misunderstandings. Alasdair McIntyre maybe?

Julian Sanders
Julian Sanders

Hayek.

Christopher Sanders
Christopher Sanders

no

Jacob White
Jacob White

varients on an ecosocialist idea I had

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Ryder Smith
Ryder Smith

Why the stars? Just adds a bunch of clutter to it and the blue red and green just horribly contrast with each other.

Logan Cooper
Logan Cooper

nasa logo and brazilian flag tbqh

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Jacob Flores
Jacob Flores

These flags look like North Pole Party flags for elves rebelling against santa.

Logan Ross
Logan Ross

FUCK CHRISTMAS
MADE BY ELFBOL GANG

Elijah Evans
Elijah Evans

beat me to it, that looks like christmas shit
I got this once (twice actually) on politiscales and I really like it
could be a good base

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Henry Walker
Henry Walker

A hammer and sickle, fist, BPP logo, or gear would go great in that left of that flag

Charles Price
Charles Price

SHUT THE FUCK UP

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Kevin Miller
Kevin Miller

upload this to the booru m8, dis is good

Ethan Peterson
Ethan Peterson

Took these screenshots from Hunter x Hunter. Anyone good enough at Photoshop to make a Stirner edit?

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Landon Hill
Landon Hill

Not mine, but anyone got anymore commie catgirl pics?
desuarchive.org/leftyweebpol/thread/28/
It's alunya

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Kevin Edwards
Kevin Edwards

Hunter x Hunter
i remain convinced that Leorio's character design was 100% designed off of Stirner. Even his tie is the right colour ffs

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Christian Smith
Christian Smith

Leorio's character design was 100% designed off of Stirner
It would explain why he's such an ego-centric prick too.

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Adrian Green
Adrian Green

A variation, so to speak

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Austin Reed
Austin Reed

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Cameron Jenkins
Cameron Jenkins

Abortion debate between who?

John Sanders
John Sanders

Requesting someone make a Judge Porky.
Pretty pls.

Joseph Carter
Joseph Carter

best laugh I've had all month

Juan Price
Juan Price

I thought you anarshits hated all ML leaders anyway

Kevin Perez
Kevin Perez

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Sebastian Johnson
Sebastian Johnson

Even Brezhnev is better than Lukashenko.

Dominic Cook
Dominic Cook

Here is my OC Scarlet, the Russian Socialist.

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Carson Nguyen
Carson Nguyen

desuarchive.org/leftyweebpol/thread/2710/

Adam Gomez
Adam Gomez

Nice to see more communist OCs

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Camden Turner
Camden Turner

Sure thing, thank you comrade.

Owen Thomas
Owen Thomas

My homage to the centrist Facebook page Dispropaganda; their original meme was about how Russian history consisted of leaders (Ivan the Terrible, Lenin, Stalin and Putin) who invaded other countries and killed people

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Jaxson Parker
Jaxson Parker

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Benjamin Parker
Benjamin Parker

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Parker Taylor
Parker Taylor

dispropaganda
god they peddled some of the worst anti-communist garbage

Josiah Young
Josiah Young

People who want stricter immigration controls are akin to the Nazis
Politicians who do what the public demand are engaged in appeasement
Scorching take

Daniel Jackson
Daniel Jackson

forgetting that immigration is the number one concern of nazis and submitting to their demands isn't naziism, epic my good sir

Grayson Smith
Grayson Smith

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Cameron James
Cameron James

can we get this but with Marx?

Jackson Murphy
Jackson Murphy

If anyone can edit this so that she has a Makarov and an NKVD hat, you'll be a hero forever

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Ryan Cox
Ryan Cox

What we need is a proper Blend (S)oviet

Jeremiah Hall
Jeremiah Hall

first off, let me give you a non-cropped version

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Jason Clark
Jason Clark

Step 1: make it black and white
Step 2: find the original non-gun photo and insert the fist from pic-related
Step 3: Find a nkvd hat png and edit it on.

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Isaiah Hill
Isaiah Hill

very nice, my photoshop skills are lacking but I'll see what I can do comrades

Asher Campbell
Asher Campbell

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Nolan Davis
Nolan Davis

Made by someone on my discord server

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Leo Ramirez
Leo Ramirez

Here's another anime girl but she's based off of the left.
Her name is Lefty-Chan, and I dunno what else to name her. But I hope you all like her.

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Nathaniel Price
Nathaniel Price

kek, love it
keep it up, she's very cute

Oliver Miller
Oliver Miller

Okey dokey comrade!
Thank you very much!

Thomas Mitchell
Thomas Mitchell

A-are you Cupcake_Kitty179?

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Eli Moore
Eli Moore

Yes I am, I'm also Lucyanna-Arts on Tumblr and Rainbowdoodler209 on DA.

David Rogers
David Rogers

Is it bad that I want to make a character based off of the Bourgeois and Porky?

Jaxson Cruz
Jaxson Cruz

Reposting these from the /thrash/ thread.

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Kayden Reed
Kayden Reed

Here's a little socialist propaganda illistration. I'm not sure what I wanted to add for text since it's my first socialist propaganda drawing.
Please enjoy comrades.

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Jordan Nguyen
Jordan Nguyen

reminds me of zombie-chan from Zombie Land Saga

Joshua Perez
Joshua Perez

Huh, that's pretty interesting.

Ryder Rodriguez
Ryder Rodriguez

Here is Hvl-36.
And she's also a russian tank, I probably could've given her some tank parts but I forgot.

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Landon Davis
Landon Davis

official posadist flag coming through

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Dominic Watson
Dominic Watson

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Nicholas Hernandez
Nicholas Hernandez

Pls make more Soviet tankfus

Robert Jones
Robert Jones

But if China wins then the DPRK wins and if the US wins then R-java wins.

Julian Stewart
Julian Stewart

Sorry in advance if some are not actually oc or if I posted one of these already, I don't segregate my memes.

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Levi Sanders
Levi Sanders

discord.gg/eFQ4bdR ←- Discord for Zig Forums's content creators to discuss and share their work, have it be critiqued by their peers, but also for those looking for advice on how to improve.

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Ian Barnes
Ian Barnes

Why are you not posting these in your own OC thread on >>/leftyweebpol/ as well?

Ian White
Ian White

Oh right, I guess I never thought of that.
I probably should start my new OC thread.

Luke Wilson
Luke Wilson

make this good /leftypol.

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Jacob Peterson
Jacob Peterson

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Adam Wilson
Adam Wilson

I'd

Landon Evans
Landon Evans

not bad at all

Nolan Smith
Nolan Smith

also easier exploitable with transparency

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Chase Ortiz
Chase Ortiz

someone do something with this, this was my take

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Easton Watson
Easton Watson

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William Davis
William Davis

yeah that's the one I stole, it can be better

Chase Roberts
Chase Roberts

Nice maymay👌

Justin Williams
Justin Williams

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William Myers
William Myers

Here’s one I made a few months ago.

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Grayson Reed
Grayson Reed

Let's get some garfield memes going

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Xavier Lee
Xavier Lee

Sure thing, oh and here's my art thread if you want to see it.
I probably should make more tankfus then.
desuarchive.org/leftyweebpol/thread/3059/

Robert Hall
Robert Hall

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Kevin Martin
Kevin Martin

template

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Jose Roberts
Jose Roberts

obligatory

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Nathaniel Scott
Nathaniel Scott

idk about this one. But his comics are easy to edit.

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Oliver Rodriguez
Oliver Rodriguez

This needed to be done.

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Luke Clark
Luke Clark

Tbh Settlersfags are 99% of the time cops or fbi.

Jace Roberts
Jace Roberts

Does anyone have the edited version of pic related, only where it was about how Stlain couldn't have executed 60 million?

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David White
David White

i love this meme, so i did pulled all this out to try to make something out of it. sorry for the lame ms paint work

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Michael Phillips
Michael Phillips

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Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

I prefer to have both because wet underwear isn't a great feeling either.

Also, if you spray and wipe with your hand (as is the SEAfag way), you end up dripping butt water onto the toilet seat as well as the stall lock if it happens to be on the left. God fucking help you if there's no soap next to the sink.

Aiden Campbell
Aiden Campbell

How would that work? TP is made to dissolve in water, you can't dry your ass with it.

I never used a bidet but I assumed there was an ass towel or something.

Owen Wright
Owen Wright

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Caleb Edwards
Caleb Edwards

Cute!

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Easton Hill
Easton Hill

Not OC, but a really good analogy for capitalism coming from a non-leftist webcomic (Oglaf, that sex joke comic).

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Noah Lee
Noah Lee

Where's the analogy?

Logan Garcia
Logan Garcia

Found this from ZDF Neo, a mock leftist song about Parcel couriers: we should use it as agitpop with a translation underneath.
youtu.be/pQsS0VqM4aA

Angel Bennett
Angel Bennett

also mir gefällt das nicht besonders, klingt mehr als würde er sich über die sache lustig machen statt mit humor eine eine bittere pille zu verarbreichen
böhrmann ist mehr ein clown als kabarettist

Jason Watson
Jason Watson

I think he is trying to make the point that the "traditional working class" of steel workers ect. doesn't exist anymore: instead we have teamsters, which also need to have a movement around them. Still, as far as the song goes it is pretty good.

Josiah Thomas
Josiah Thomas

steel workers don’t exist anymore
Are you retarted?

Lincoln Wright
Lincoln Wright

Might as well post this here as well.
WM-704

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Isaac Jones
Isaac Jones

Had to stop in 1/5 of this thread. Never ever i have cringed so hard. You even unironically think you will be amout of anything or your ideology. How ridiculous you all are. Good for me.

Andrew Green
Andrew Green

if you can't speak English, it's alright to post in languages that you can speak

Austin Walker
Austin Walker

I found this on Youtube and replaced the audio with a better quality version

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Matthew Sanders
Matthew Sanders

What song is this?

Carter White
Carter White

sozialistische weltrepublik or Social World republic in English.

William Nguyen
William Nguyen

not the anime aufmarsch one

Jaxon Baker
Jaxon Baker

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Cooper Richardson
Cooper Richardson

The Super Smash Bros. Brawl opening.

Dylan Allen
Dylan Allen

Is Angela Nagle a crypto-strasserite?Let's find out! youtube.com/watch?v=yYuabHS97Ik

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Angel Morales
Angel Morales

2744650
Is that twiter user real?
I assume you are the creator

Robert Ramirez
Robert Ramirez

Pretty cute!

Nolan Gray
Nolan Gray

You have the original picture?

Adrian Jackson
Adrian Jackson

underage porn

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Xavier Cook
Xavier Cook

underage porn
hey I didn't make it, someone keeps upvoting it (despite the fact that I literally downvoted it a dozen times)

Joseph Baker
Joseph Baker

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Christian Martinez
Christian Martinez

Where's the original from?

Jeremiah Kelly
Jeremiah Kelly

underage porn
a drawing of a catgirl
go back to fucking tumblr you bourgeois simpleton

Jonathan White
Jonathan White

global gamer news, pewdiepie, mrdeadmoth, china & fortnite youtube.com/watch?v=PwJPhoUEjDs

Jackson Allen
Jackson Allen

Kill yourself

Kevin Ortiz
Kevin Ortiz

youtu.be/lRxKHC7AlHc

Luis Cruz
Luis Cruz

Where's the footage of the NazBols marching at the end from?

Jack Sullivan
Jack Sullivan

Anyone have this in high res?
It's a Zig Forums edit of the Stonetoss comic, only instead of "muh holocaust" it's the holodomor and Stalin

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Nolan Kelly
Nolan Kelly

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Evan Cooper
Evan Cooper

Hkm-17
Another Russian Tankgirl
couldn't think of more tank parts to add to her design

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Angel Taylor
Angel Taylor

more tank parts to add to her design
A turret, a gun maybe some mechanical parts like pic related.

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Alexander Bailey
Alexander Bailey

hoarding grain
not knowing what's zimnica
the government hoarding grain is good
knowingly planing to kill people with your decisions
Tankie get out

Gabriel Turner
Gabriel Turner

kulak apologism
Liberals get out

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Carter Brooks
Carter Brooks

everyone I don't like is a kulak
The government will take your cattle if you don't meet the quota
Kill it an eat it or sell it to make a living
Wasn't able to produce the same amount as in 1931
Stole more grain from the people to "suppress Ukrainian nationalism"
Causing the birth rate to decrease and infant mortality to increase
t. stupid authoritarian bootlicker
Also,
arguing with pngs and jpgs
mfw

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Ryder Adams
Ryder Adams

Grain is zimnica
Ne verujem da si ih ubijali zbog tegle ajvara ili par zivih paprika

Angel Martinez
Angel Martinez

Jok brate, nego kad ti neko uzme svu psenicu zbog retarda ili zato sto mu nisi kvotu popunio sta ce drugo covjeku da se desi, da voli Staljina i da mu pise ljubavne pjesme?
Ljudi su jebote jeli druge ljude tada, crkavali od gladi, pogotovo najmladi jer ih majke nisu imali cime hraniti zbog politickih igara onih koji nosaju bolje cipele od njih.
Jes kurac, i cude se ljudi sto mu mladez iz Ukrajine nedavno otopile metal iz statua. Vlade svijeta, ne samo Sovjeta neka prvo krive sebe za svoje greske jer se njih ticu najvise.
Krivi Amer Rusa za ovo, Krivi Rusa Amera, krivi Arap Evropu, kad su svi govna svoja pojeli zbog svog Ega, i neprihvatanja krivice i odgovornosti za bilo sta lose, jer svako drugi mora biti kriv, svako, sem njih naravno.

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Evan Cooper
Evan Cooper

Zimnica
not what they were doing you twat

read this and piss off rad-lib nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1109532

Michael Cooper
Michael Cooper

t.Banderite
see

Logan Parker
Logan Parker

Naravno da ce psenica da se uzima kad je pola drzave bilo spaljeno, sta sad, to sto je tvoje polje prezivelo paljenje znaci da mozes da kurcem mases po selu dok crkavaju drugi?
Ljudi si jeli druge ljude tada
Je li takodje verujes da su Srbi jeli Hrvate i Bosance tokom rata?
I kakva je ovo glupost oko Ega, jel to krivis pojedince iz svake drzave il sta?

Leo Johnson
Leo Johnson

arguing with pngs and jpgs
Not a refutation, the images contain sourced arguments

Landon Lewis
Landon Lewis

Kada je pola drzave spaljeno majke ti?
Examined it all, and it's missing, really a lot of key info that's hidden really badly, but nice KGBing.
The drought wasn't nearly as big as the one in 1921, and don't downplay the fault of industrialization, because it's the reason why this famine happened in the first place. Literally the same thing happened in Kazakhstan, but that's just right wing, or CIA, or muslim propaganda right? You force something to people and you get a famine as a result of your own bloody five year plan and then you wonder why the demographics loss of the famine gave Ukraine 10 million people less today. Even Gorbachev talked about half his village dying in the famine.
The Soviet government was planing to use the grain as a bargaining chip to fully industrialize the country and it's literally written in the letter they sent to the Hague Economics conference. The Western countries didn't allow the Soviets to receive any loans whatsoever because they refused to pay the pre-revolutionary ones, then Kremljin said fuck you to the Ukranians, massive quotas were implemented on the farmers and anyone who didn't meet them would have their cattle stolen and be sent off to jail. They replaced Pomhol with Naslidhol, ignored the famine while at the same time allowing the food from the Western countries to arrive while at the same time which didn't go to Ukraine directly but was also exported into Russia, exporting the grain from Ukraine to Western countries. It wasn't until 1932 when the railway workers had enough of the Soviet government and went on strikes refusing to transport the grain who alongside the farmers refused to hand over the grain to anyone. And yeah, there was an incident where the contra revolutionaries blew up grain, 10 000 tons, what about, you know the millions upon millions of tons that were in hands of the Soviets, they have been forgotten. So the government went on a heavy crackdown on dissidents which increased terror, increased the famine, and increased the tragedy of the event. Romanchuk, a delegate from Ukraine said that
"Perhaps in Moscow, where one is well-fed, one can elaborate export projects. In the Kherson region, once rich but now starving, not only is it impossible to speak about such things seriously but, I would add, it is dangerous to mention them to peasants and especially workers. (…) It is from the south that the grain will leave; it will precisely pass through the country where 4 million people are starving and will probably not be able to survive until spring. With tears in my eyes, I saw heaps of rotting grain around which comrade soldiers of the Red Army were keeping guard, absolutely uselessly, since instead of grain there was only manure."
The government literally bragged on about how much profit they got from selling grain to West Germany, and all the while, ignoring pleas from anyone from Ukraine to lower the demand.
Going from 16, to 20, and then to 64 mortality rate while having a natality rate of 17 per 1k is just good fucking shit, don't you agree.

But hey,
IT'S ALWAYS
SOMEONE
ELSE

P.S. Nice ban you got there, a really good argument isn't it.

Samuel Martinez
Samuel Martinez

Gorbachev
Ah yes the lying scumbag who purposely destroyed the infrastructure of the USSR is a veritable source, y'know the same Gorbachev who tried to have Katyn blamed on the NKVD only for the court to refuse due to lack of evidence, confirmed by international review.
don't downplay the fault of industrialization
I'm not, you are exaggerating it, not to mention Industrialization began after the famine.
Drought wasn't as big as 1921
Wrong it was just as bad.
the same thing happened in Kazakhstan
Yes because the drought affected a large area of the USSR you twat.
demographics loss of the famine gave Ukraine 10 million people less today
False, the 10 million is reached through mental gymnastics on births that didn't happen. The population drops were caused by a combination of famine, disease and murders by anti-communist groups, as well as immigration and a lowered birth rate. No specific ethnic, religious, or racial group was persecuted, and those people that were persecuted for crimes related to the incident were persecuted for their crimes alone rather than for being connected to said group.
The Soviet government was planing to use the grain as a bargaining chip to fully industrialize the country and it's literally written in the letter they sent to the Hague Economics conference.
And?
government literally bragged on about how much profit they got from selling grain to West Germany
Citation needed
Uncited quote by Romanchuk that originates from a Ukrainian Nationalist site that lacks primary sources.
It wasn't until 1932 when the railway workers had enough of the Soviet government and went on strikes refusing to transport the grain who alongside the farmers refused to hand over the grain to anyone.
citation needed
Western countries didn't allow the Soviets to receive any loans whatsoever because they refused to pay the pre-revolutionary ones
Uhh no that wasn't the reason at all, not to mention that the USSR had no obligation to pay those loans to the Russian empire.
Kremljin said fuck you to the Ukranians, massive quotas were implemented on the farmers and anyone who didn't meet them would have their cattle stolen and be sent off to jail.
False
muh ban
Well deserved for you, rad-lib

Jose Flores
Jose Flores

ignoring pleas from anyone from Ukraine to lower the demand.

Going from 16, to 20, and then to 64 mortality rate while having a natality rate of 17 per 1k is just good fucking shit, don't you agree.

Ass pulled numbers and bullshit projection.
Г. С. Ткаченко, Миф о Фолодоморе Иѕобпетение Манипулјаторов Цоѕнаием, first published on KM.RU, Dec. 25, 2006. Research showed that the Soviet Union took actions to save people affected by the Holodomor and tried to reduce the damage and losses caused by the famine.

the USSR was in a rather tight spot where casualties were inevitable. Now you might ask, why didn’t they send help to the afflicted areas, the answer is simple, initially soviet leadership in Ukraine (and thus in Moscow) was not fully aware of the famine’s extent as shown here in a translation of several letters and telegrams telegrams:

From the Archive of the President of the Russian Federation[8]. Fond 3, Record Series 40, File 80, Page 58

Excerpt from the protocol number of the meeting of the Political Bureau of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist party (Bolsheviks) “Regarding Measures to Prevent Failure to Sow in Ukraine, March 16th, 1932.

"The Political Bureau believes that shortage of seed grain in Ukraine is many times worse than what was described in comrade Kosior’s telegram; therefore, the Political Bureau recommends the Central Committee of the Communist party of Ukraine to take all measures within its reach to prevent the threat of failing to sow [field crops] in Ukraine."

Signed: Secretary of the Central Committee – J. STALIN - Letter to Joseph Stalin from Stanislaw Kosior, 1st secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine regarding the course and the perspectives of the sowing campaign in Ukraine, April 26th, 1932.

"There are also isolated cases of starvation, and even whole villages [starving]; however, this is only the result of bungling on the local level, deviations [from the party line], especially in regard of kolkhozes. All rumours about “famine” in Ukraine must be unconditionally rejected. The crucial help that was provided for Ukraine will give us the opportunity to eradicate all such outbreaks [of starvation]." - Letter from Joseph Stalin to Stanislaw Kosior, 1st secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine, April 26th, 1932.

"Comrade Kosior!
You must read attached summaries. Judging by this information, it looks like the Soviet authority has ceased to exist in some areas of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Can this be true? Is the situation invillages in Ukraine this bad? Where are the operatives of the OGPU [Joint Main Political Directorate], what are they doing?Could you verify this information and inform the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist party about taken measures." - Sincerely, J. Stalin

Levi Wilson
Levi Wilson

“Collectivization was not an orderly process following bureaucratic rules. It consisted of actions by the poor peasants, encouraged by the Party. The poor peasants were eager to expropriate the “kulaks,” but less eager to organize a cooperative economy. By 1930 the Party and already sent out cadres to stem and correct excesses… After having exercised restraint in 1930, the Party put on a drive again in 1932. As a result, in that year the kulak economy ceased to produce, and the new collective economy did not yet produce fully.” - Blumenfeld, Hans. Life Begins at 65. Montreal, Canada: Harvest House, c1987, p. 152

“During the 1932 harvest season Soviet agriculture experienced a crisis. Natural disasters, especially plant diseases spread and intensified by wet weather in mid-1932, drastically reduced crop yields. OGPU reports, anecdotal as they are, indicate widespread peasant opposition to the kolkhoz system. These documents contain numerous reports of kolkhozniki, faced with starvation, mismanagement and abuse by kolkhoz officials and others, and desperate conditions: dying horses, idle tractors, infested crops, and incitement by itinerant people. Peasants’ responses varied: some applied to withdraw from their farms, some left for paid work outside, some worked sloppily, intentionally leaving grain on the fields while harvesting to glean later for themselves.” - Tauger, Mark. “Soviet Peasants and Collectivization, 1930-39: Resistance and Adaptation.” In Rural Adaptation in Russia by Stephen Wegren, Routledge, New York, NY, 2005, Chapter 3, p. 81.

“Their [kulak] opposition took the initial form of slaughtering their cattle and horses in preference to having them collectivized. The result was a grievous blow to Soviet agriculture, for most of the cattle and horses were owned by the kulaks. Between 1928 and 1933 the number of horses in the USSR declined from almost 30,000,000 to less than 15,000,000; of horned cattle from 70,000,000 (including 31,000,0000 cows) to 38,000,000 (including 20,000,000 cows); of sheep and goats from 147,000,000 to 50,000,000; and of hogs from 20,000,000 to 12,000,000. Soviet rural economy had not recovered from this staggering loss by 1941. […] Some [kulaks] murdered officials, set the torch to the property of the collectives, and even burned their own crops and seed grain. More refused to sow or reap, perhaps on the assumption that the authorities would make concessions and would in any case feed them.” - Russia Since 1917, Four Decades Of Soviet Politics by Frederick L. Schuman

“Almost all the collective farms established in 1931 and 1932 were shockingly mismanaged. What else could be expected when every village in Russia had been the scene of bitter internal strife, when animals had been slaughtered or allowed to die through incompetence, and grain had been buried, and barns and houses burned? It has been estimated that livestock dropped by 50% during those tragic years and there were large areas, as I saw with my own eyes in the North Caucasus in 1933, where miles of weeds and desolation replaced the former grainfields…” - Duranty, Walter. Stalin & Co. New York: W. Sloane Associates, 1949, p. 77[11]

“During the thirties, the far-right, linked with the Hitlerites, had already fully exploited the propaganda theme of `deliberately provoked famine to exterminate the Ukrainian people’. But after the Second World War, this propaganda was `adjusted’ with the main goal of covering up the barbaric crimes committed by German and Ukrainian Nazis, to protect fascism and to mobilise Western forces against Communism.” - Martens, Ludo. Another View of Stalin. Antwerp, Belgium: EPO, Lange Pastoorstraat 25-27 2600, p. 113 (Pg 96 on the internet pdf) [12]

“This destruction of the productive forces had, of course, disastrous consequences: in 1932, there was a great famine, caused in part by the sabotage and destruction done by the kulaks. But anti-Communists blame Stalin and the `forced collectivization’ for the deaths caused by the criminal actions of the kulaks.” - Martens, Ludo. Another View of Stalin. Antwerp, Belgium: EPO, Lange Pastoorstraat 25-27 2600, p. 79 [p. 66 on the pdf]

“In 1931 and 1932, the Soviet Union was in the depth of the crisis, due to socio-economic upheavals, to desperate kulak resistance, to the little support that could be given to peasants in these crucial years of industrial investment, to the slow introduction of machines and to drought.” - Charles Bettelheim. L’Economie sovietique (Paris: ƒ editions Recueil Sirey, 1950), p. 82

Charles Powell
Charles Powell

a bidet is usually part of the house's plumbing, so a hardware store.

Jayden Miller
Jayden Miller

this copy pasta will sure work

Josiah Perry
Josiah Perry

Ah yes the lying scumbag who purposely destroyed…
Sure…
Citations
diasporiana.org.ua/wp-content/uploads/books/16737/file.pdf
Eat your heart out.
I'm not, you are exaggerating it, not to mention Industrialization began after the famine.
The industrialization process began with the five year plan, and continued on in Ukraine, so yeah, null.
The population drops were caused by a combination of famine, disease and murders by anti-communist groups, as well as immigration and a lowered birth rate.
Oh, I'm sorry, all those things happened in the span of three years and all the other years see a constant and steady mortality and natality. Just because you named other factors does not mean that they are major.
Uhh no that wasn't the reason at all, not to mention that the USSR had no obligation to pay those loans to the Russian empire.
Under, the MMF law, and, International law, it had. Just like any other country in the world because just because a regime change happened, does not make any debt null.
Well deserved for you, rad-lib
Why are right wingers confined in an echo chamber
Is in an echo chamber
Can't see that he's the same like them
GG
(Snyder, Timothy (2010). Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin.)
Snyder lists seven crucial policies that applied only, or mainly, to Soviet Ukraine. He states: "Each of them may seem like an anodyne administrative measure, and each of them was certainly presented as such at the time, and yet each had to kill":

From 18 November 1932 peasants from Ukraine were required to return extra grain they had previously earned for meeting their targets. State police and party brigades were sent into these regions to root out any food they could find.

Two days later, a law was passed forcing peasants who could not meet their grain quotas to surrender any livestock they had.

Eight days later, collective farms that failed to meet their quotas were placed on "blacklists" in which they were forced to surrender 15 times their quota. These farms were picked apart for any possible food by party activists. Blacklisted communes had no right to trade or to receive deliveries of any kind, and became death zones.

On 5 December 1932, Stalin's security chief presented the justification for terrorizing Ukrainian party officials to collect the grain. It was considered treason if anyone refused to do their part in grain requisitions for the state.

In November 1932 Ukraine was required to provide 1/3 of the grain collection of the entire Soviet Union. As Lazar Kaganovich put it, the Soviet state would fight "ferociously" to fulfill the plan.
In January 1933 Ukraine's borders were sealed in order to prevent Ukrainian peasants from fleeing to other republics. By the end of February 1933 approximately 190,000 Ukrainian peasants had been caught trying to flee Ukraine and were forced to return to their villages to starve.
The collection of grain continued even after the annual requisition target for 1932 was met in late January 1933.

(Stalin and the Soviet Famine of 1932 – 33 Revisited Michael Ellman)
Also, as a side note:
"…in 1932–1933 grain exports amounted to 1.8 million tonnes, which would have been enough to feed 5 million people for one year."

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Austin Thomas
Austin Thomas

On, another side note, yeah the 21 drought was much worse, and gave fewer amounts of grain than needed, the difference between 21 and 32 is that, in 21 they didn't have the food, in 32, they did.

Robert Price
Robert Price

Ok what's going on here?
What's this talk about "grain hoarding" and "famines" and why for fucks sake is it in the OC Thread?

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Eli Bennett
Eli Bennett

y'know the same Gorbachev who tried to have Katyn blamed on the NKVD only for the court to refuse due to lack of evidence, confirmed by international review.
LOL, forgot to add this one as well. For goodness sake the documents have been declassified and Russia admitted its role in the murder, it's literally common knowledge past 2001 period.

Benjamin Robinson
Benjamin Robinson

Russia admitted its role in the murder
The current Russian regime is anti-Communist so it's hardly a case of 'the perpetrators admitted to it'.

Easton Robinson
Easton Robinson

Yeah, they declassified the evidence, and based on the evidence presented, we see the orders from the NKVD point to a higher authority giving the all clear when it came to executions. Also, most of the documents are classified, most likely implying some more shady dealings with the Nazis which I assume happened since the two sides were good for a short period of time.

Also, the current Russian government, is kinda ruled by an ex-KGB agent, that VENERATES Soviet Russia and praises its role in WW2 and claims that it's the savior of the world, and the main factor in the fight against fascism. And on another side, it has, holocaust denial laws and is cracking down on right wing hate groups on a daily basis. Nominaly, it's ok.

And trust me, I have a personal distain for all transgressors of freedom, be they on the left or the right.

Landon Martin
Landon Martin

On a side note before I get banned out, I'll give you a small piece of advise
Princes don't wear fancy armor or have nice crowns anymore, not even royal gowns
They wear suits with fancy ties, party mandated uniforms and thawbs
They've changed outfits but their underlying principle is the same, to rule over you
A free man has no rulers, for he rules himself>>2756011

Connor Price
Connor Price

youtube.com/watch?v=byQIPdHMpjc
Another ban admin plz

Joshua Sullivan
Joshua Sullivan

supporting Yeltsin
not an anticommunist
pick 1
praises its role in WW2 and claims that it's the savior of the world, and the main factor in the fight against fascism
everyone but america know this is true

Jace Flores
Jace Flores

Just because someone does not fit into your own ideological point of view does not mean that they are a bad human. Do make friends with a diverse set of people, it really improves your life.
And another thing I've noticed, two socialists in the same room will support 4 parties and have 16 different opinions so it's pointless to talk about who's the
BIGGER COMMUNIST

And yeah, did you know that Putin, said that he wishes that the SSSR stayed together.>>2756028

Kevin Adams
Kevin Adams

Putin isnt a communist. His wish for the USSR to stay together comes from a geopolitical interest in having a strong military and material base for russia and russian capitalist interests.

He isnt a soviet, he is just as much a capitalist as merkel, obama or trump.

Luis Miller
Luis Miller

(me)
Actually I fucked up - it wasn't the current Russian regime that admitted to it, it was the USSR in 1989-90, which was far more anti-Soviet and had an interest in discrediting the Stalin-era USSR.

Zachary Hall
Zachary Hall

copy pasta
Not a refutation, also considering that I wrote them out before in an essay, copy-pasting my own work is not an argument against it regardless.
ndustrialization process began with the five year plan
5 year PLANS of which the first one focused primarily on collectivization in preparation FOR industrialization.
.ua
HMMMMMMM
Written by 2 Ukrainian nationalists who deliberately clip quotes and exclude anything that would cripple their distorted argument. christ it's like reading Robert Conquest all over again.
all those things happened in the span of three years
Yes, it's not that strange, things can happen quickly you moron.

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

1 small fuck up, let alone a number of them can be enough to change the tide of things drastically.

Under, the MMF law, and, International law, it had.
No it did not, not to mention that there was no international law created prior to the League of Nations that had absolute authority. The laws applied to the Russian Empire, to whom the loans belonged. The bolshevik government had not taken those loans and thus was not the ones who ought to pay for them, especially as the White Russians as a group still existed, and therefore were the ones to whom the loan belonged to.
is in echo chamber
Not really, dialectical materialist analysis m8, learn it.
ur de same
fuck off false equivelator.
Timothy SHNYDER
Grover Furr wrote an entire book debunking him point by point, read it fag.
web.archive.org/web/20180920095700/https://heavywatergate.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/furr_blood_lies-2014.pdf
"…in 1932–1933 grain exports amounted to 1.8 million tonnes, which would have been enough to feed 5 million people for one year."
This shit again, Here is the export data [5] [6] [7]:
In the year 1930 they exported 4,846,024 tonnes, In 1931 the number increased to 5,182,835 tonnes. In 1932, which is the year when the famine began they exported much less. Only 1,819,114 tonnes. AND here it comes. They imported 750,000 tonnes during the first half of 1932 and from late April 157,000 tonnes. The amount of export further decreased the next year and another 200,000 tonnes was also imported. They exported only a fraction of what they normally would have and even imported over a million tonnes and sent food aid when they realized the extent of the famine. Doesn’t seem much like deliberate genocide, does it. Also the reason they even exported grain and various raw materials to begin with was because that is what all under developed agrarian and semi-feudal countries do. Soviet Union in particular had a good reason for it because they were trying to acquire the necessary capital to industrialize and escape backwardness forever, which they did. They were one of the rare countries to actually pull off such a feat. This is particularly impressive considering that they had no access to foreign loans, not to mention the lack of colonies.
[5] avr.org.ua/index.php/Ust/169/?a=1
[6] busin.biz/library/soviet union/stalin/Wheatcroft, Stephen G. 'The Industrialisation of Soviet Russia - Volume 5, The Years of Hunger Soviet Agriculture 1931-1933'.pdf
[7] archives.gov.ua/Sections/Famine/Publicat/Fam-Pyrig-1933.php
bla bla bla projection based rubbish
Russia admitted
Capialist modern Russia
we see orders
orders proven to be hoaxes in an actual court and by actual historians
dnr-iskra.ru/evropejskij-sud-prinyal-sensatsionnoe-reshenii-o-tom-chto-predostavlennye-pri-gorbacheve-i-eltsine-dokumenty-ukazyvayushhie-na-to-chto-v-rasstrele-desyatkov-tysyach-polskih-ofitserov-pod-katynyu-povin/
web.archive.org/web/20180130053754/http://www.english.battlefield.ru:80/analytics/137-katyn-revised.html
katynmassakern.blogspot.com
mythcracker.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/katyn-49-signs-of-falsification-of-“closed-package-no-1”/
ex-KGB
irrelevant
VENERATES Soviet Russia
Using symbols for patriotic propaganda is not veneration, especially when his government also supports doing shit like having Solzhenitsyn taught as a source on Gulags in schools, and put up statues and memorials to people like Mannerheim and Kolchak

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Adam Cruz
Adam Cruz

Just because someone does not fit into your own ideological point of view does not mean that they are a bad human
Found the liberal

Brayden Roberts
Brayden Roberts

I don't have time to respond to the rest and I'll stick to my topic.
In the year 1930 they exported 4,846,024 tonnes, In 1931 the number increased to 5,182,835 tonnes. In 1932, which is the year when the famine began they exported much less. Only 1,819,114 tonnes. AND here it comes. They imported 750,000 tonnes during the first half of 1932 and from late April 157,000 tonnes. The amount of export further decreased the next year and another 200,000 tonnes was also imported. They exported only a fraction of what they normally would have and even imported over a million tonnes and sent food aid when they realized the extent of the famine.

First of all, that wasn't Shnyders claim, that was Ellmans.

Second of all, he said similar stuff, but with extra detail.

In 1932, via Ukrainian commercial ports the following amounts were exported: 988,300 tons of grains and 16,500 tons of other types of cereals. In 1933, the totals were: 809,600 tons of grains, 2,600 tons of other cereals, 3,500 tons of meat, 400 tons of butter, and 2,500 tons of fish.
Those same ports imported the following amounts: less than 67,200 tons of grains and cereals in 1932, and 8,600 tons of grains in 1933.
The following amounts were received from other Soviet ports: in 1932, 164,000 tons of grains, 7,300 tons of other cereals, 31,500 tons of meat and butter, and no more than 177,000 tons of meat and butter;
In 1933, 230,000 tons of grains, 15,300 tons if other cereals, 100 tons of meat, 900 tons of butter, and 34,300 tons of fish.

So, not really, the millions you have claimed, also, the food they have imported was not only used for Ukraine but distributed among other Soviet nations :)

And his point still stands, if they didn't export the food they had they could have fed those people, but Kremljin chose money over life.

Moving on, I'm not going to read broken links or evidence from RUSSIANTRUTHFUCKNAZI.RU, and revisit moonrunes.ru

Final point, the case for the low export, was, constant collectivization:
After grain collection difficulties in 1927 and 1928, Stalin ordered the creation of state grain and meat enterprises—sovkhozes—which according to his initial vision should deliver more than 100 million poods of grain in 1932. However, in 1932 their production results were disastrous due to poor general and agricultural management and planning, despite the significant (as compared to kolkhozes) amount of modern agricultural mechanisms (agricultural tractors, harvesters, etc.) employed. The main reason for low output was that wheat was continually sown, beginning in 1929, on the same areas without fertilizers. Sovkhozes also suffered from a lack of manpower and infrastructure (roads, elevators etc.). Losses during harvesting were extremely high. Thus, instead of the expected 290 millions of poods (more than 5 million tons) in 1932, sovkhozes produced 5 time less, while the situation with livestock was even worse. As of 20 July 1932, sovhozes of the Ukrainian SRR had logged 16% of the defined sowing area.
This disparity between agricultural goals and actual production grew later in the year. An expected 190 thousand tons of grain were to be exported, but by August 27, 1932, only 20 thousand tons were ready.
Stalin lowered procurement plan for the Ukrainian SSR by 40 million poods at the end of August 1932
By October 25, the plan for grain collection was lowered once again
Nevertheless, collection reached only 39% of the annually planned total.
etc.
On January 2, targets were again lowered to 62.5 million poods. On January 14, the targets were lowered even further to 33.1 million. At the same time, GPU of Ukraine reported hunger and starvation in the Kiev and Vinnytsia oblasts, and began implementing measures to remedy the situation. The total amount of grain collected by February 5 was only 255 million poods (compared to 440 million poods in 1931), while the numbers of "hunger and malnutrition cases" as registered by the GPU of Ukrainian SSR increased every day.

Doesn’t seem much like deliberate genocide, does it.
Nah, just a bad case of government getting the good old, 1/3 of my harvest is gone because I didn't know how to properly manage it kind of genocide.

Kevin Diaz
Kevin Diaz

that wasn't Shnyders claim, that was Ellmans
Regardless it's rubbish
not really, the millions you have claimed
His numbers are wrong
I'm not going to read broken links or evidence from RUSSIANTRUTHFUCKNAZI.RU, and revisit moonrunes.ru
deliberate attack on the sources without addressing them, good job.
just a bad case of government getting the good old, 1/3 of my harvest is gone because I didn't know how to properly manage it kind of genocide
Wow that's a manipulation such a bad one that it deliberately ignore the definition of a genocide. Good going. you obscene liar.

At this point there is nothing to argue with you. All you have done is spam sources that are biased and debunked while refusing to read mine despite most of them being from neutral sources or primary sources. In fact I actually cite a UKRAINIAN archive posted by the current ukrainian government, y'know the one that is anti-soviet and anti-russian and pushes the holodomor myth?

TL;DR you have failed to address me with an argument, just vomiting out old shit from debunked sources. Trolls like you deserve no more attention, fuck off back to /leftpol/index.html

Jason Hill
Jason Hill

His numbers are wrong
No, they are from the Soviet official statistic.
Regardless it's rubbish
Next time read, before writing something.
deliberate attack on the sources without addressing them, good job.
HE EXPECTS ME TO READ RUSSIAN LINKS IN A LANGUAGE THAT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND AT THE SAME TIME NOT READING THE EVIDENCE I POSTED IN ENGLISH BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FIT HIS POSITION
Big Uff
Wow that's a manipulation such a bad one that it deliberately ignore the definition of a genocide. Good going. you obscene liar.
All you have done is spam sources that are biased and debunked while refusing to read mine despite most of them being from neutral sources or primary sources.
TOP FUCKING KEK m8, are you sure you are sane? I know bootlickers like you have a hard time thinking because of them being constantly in bad spot but come on…
While you post information from a historian that is biased, and a Staljinist, and posting broken links, to Russian forums, in cyrilic, good job.

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William Scott
William Scott

Before you continue with your mental gymnastics, where did I mention the word genocide?

Levi Cook
Levi Cook

NEUTRAL AND UNBIASED
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Jace Wilson
Jace Wilson

Grover Furr
Nice cherry pick, try to say the same of Tauger and Wheatcroft. I said mostly neutral and unbiased

Juan Jones
Juan Jones

right here
just a bad case of government getting the good old, 1/3 of my harvest is gone because I didn't know how to properly manage it kind of genocide.
from the Soviet official statistic.
And lack any sort of context, unlike mine, they ignore proper import and export values and the amount of food already IN the country itself
EXPECTS ME TO READ RUSSIAN LINKS IN A LANGUAGE THAT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND
Google translate faggot
NOT READING THE EVIDENCE I POSTED IN ENGLISH
I read those rubbish sources almost a decade ago when they were first published and wrote a small essay on the topic back when Zig Forums was new, didn't screencap it but I've found portions online in various other places.
more false equivalency
keep squealing

Cereals (in tonnes):

1930 – 4,846,024
1931 – 5,182,835
1932 – 1,819,114
1933 – 1,771,364

Only wheat (in tonnes):

1930 – 2,530,953
1931 – 2,498,958
1932 – 550,917
1933 – 748,248

As we can quite clearly see, the amount of grains imported from the Ukraine was actually far lower in the year leading up to, and in the year of the Holodomor; therefore, other causes must have been at work than importation. Dr. Mark Tauger suggests that the cause of this was mostly natural, and “fundamentally not man-made.” Dr. Tauger comes to the conclusion that the only impact that human actions had was to simply compound the already existing problem. Dr. Tauger’s data reveals that, in 1932, drought-like conditions in some areas of the country harmed production, while strangely humid weather allowed for blights to occur. Dr. Tauger gives the estimate that these entirely natural occurrences had the effect of wiping out up to 20% of the total harvest. [2]

Another assault against Stalin in relation to the famine was that his administration did not do enough to try to mitigate the losses; however, this too does not stand before scrutiny.
The first word of famine to reach the Soviet government in mid-January 1933, and the first shipment of food aid from the Soviet government arrived in the Ukraine on 7 Feb. 1933[3]. Food continued to arrive by the millions of pounds. Furthermore, on 20 March 1933, Stalin himself intervened, lowering the amount of grain to be used elsewhere by 14,000 tons; he further decreed that those 14,000 tons would be distributed to provide help to citizens in Kiev.

The second wave of famine hit in May 1933, and the Soviet government reacted by allocating 576,000 tons[4], later to be increased to 1.1 million tons[4], to be distributed as aid to the suffering Ukrainians. However, this aid was given to local government to be distributed accordingly, and, judging by the fact that some of these local government officials were heavily reprimanded for “sabotage” of the Soviet government’s efforts[5], it is likely that these local governments bear much of the burden that is usually placed entirely upon Stalin.

1: СССР в цифрах ЦУНХУ Госплана СССР. Москва 1935, page 574, 575

2: Mark B. Tauger, The 1932 Harvest and the Famine of 1933, Slavic Review, Volume 50, Issue 1 (Spring, 1991), 70-89,

3: mid.ru/ns-arch.nsf/932b471b7dc29104c32572ba00560533/22fa7cb39af8e09ec32574bb003a7f8c? Documents 69 and 70. Also traces of such decisions (at least for Dnipropetrovsk region) can be found at Голод 1932-1933 років на Україні: очима істориків, мовою документівarchives.gov.ua/Sections/Famine/Publicat/Fam-Pyrig-1933.php

4: Голод 1932-1933 років на Україні: очима істориків, мовою документів

5: On April 6, 1933, Sholokhov, who lived in the Vesenskii district (Kuban, Russian Federation), wrote at length to Stalin, describing the famine conditions and urging him to provide grain. Stalin received the letter on April 15, and on April 16 the Politburo granted 700 tons of grain to that district. Stalin sent a telegram to Sholokhov stating "We will do everything required. Inform size of necessary help. State a figure." Sholokhov replied on the same day, and on April 22, the day on which Stalin received the second letter, Stalin scolded him, "You should have sent your answer not by letter but by telegram. Time was wasted". Davies and Wheatcroft, p. 217

Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

Proving him wrong is Cherry picking

Providing him detailed information and proving him that collectivization and over exploitation of Ukrainian workers and farmers led to their massive death toll is wrong because it does not fit his world view

Because there is a difference when someone says:
They imported 750,000 tonnes during the first half of 1932 and from late April 157,000 tonnes. The amount of export further decreased the next year and another 200,000 tonnes was also imported.

But what actually was:
In 1932, via Ukrainian commercial ports the following amounts were exported: 988,300 tons of grains and 16,500 tons of other types of cereals. In 1933, the totals were: 809,600 tons of grains, 2,600 tons of other cereals, 3,500 tons of meat, 400 tons of butter, and 2,500 tons of fish.

Those same ports imported the following amounts: less than 67,200 tons of grains and cereals in 1932, and 8,600 tons of grains in 1933.

The following amounts were received from other Soviet ports: in 1932, 164,000 tons of grains, 7,300 tons of other cereals, 31,500 tons of meat and butter, and no more than 177,000 tons of meat and butter;

In 1933, 230,000 tons of grains, 15,300 tons if other cereals, 100 tons of meat, 900 tons of butter, and 34,300 tons of fish.

Gabriel Nelson
Gabriel Nelson

Cherrypicking one source out of a dozen is cherrypicking, not proving someone wrong.

detailed information and proving him that collectivization and over exploitation of Ukrainian workers and farmers led to their massive death toll
Except you only provided anecdotal statements, some dubiously out of context statistics and badly cited quotes.
more cherrypicking
KYS

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Benjamin Hernandez
Benjamin Hernandez

right here
Got you in a lie there, you were the first one to mention the word, I was parodying it.

Also, do you like to lick heel to toes, or the other way around?

Historian James Mace wrote that Tauger's argument "is not taken seriously by either Russians or Ukrainians who have studied the topic." David Marples, professor of history at the University of Alberta, was critical of Tauger's claims, stating: "Dr. Tauger and other scholars fail to distinguish between shortages, droughts and outright famine. There is no such thing as a 'natural' famine, no matter the size of the harvest. A famine requires some form of state or human input." Tauger's evidence, methodologies and conclusions in regard to the famine were criticized by Robert Davies and Stephen Wheatcroft in their book The Years of Hunger: Soviet Agriculture, 1931–33, published in 2004.

I've literally proven that the primary cause of the famine was man made, because the collectivization failed, and you still deny it.

After grain collection difficulties in 1927 and 1928, Stalin ordered the creation of state grain and meat enterprises—sovkhozes—which according to his initial vision should deliver more than 100 million poods of grain in 1932. However, in 1932 their production results were disastrous due to poor general and agricultural management and planning, despite the significant (as compared to kolkhozes) amount of modern agricultural mechanisms (agricultural tractors, harvesters, etc.) employed. The main reason for low output was that wheat was continually sown, beginning in 1929, on the same areas without fertilizers. Sovkhozes also suffered from a lack of manpower and infrastructure (roads, elevators etc.). Losses during harvesting were extremely high. Thus, instead of the expected 290 millions of poods (more than 5 million tons) in 1932, sovkhozes produced 5 time less, while the situation with livestock was even worse. As of 20 July 1932, sovhozes of the Ukrainian SRR had logged 16% of the defined sowing area.

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Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

All these arguments about grain exports
Is everyone here just forgetting that the USSR couldn't trade with other countries using gold due to the gold blockade, with Western countries only accepting grain, oil, and/or timber as payment, with a large emphasis on grain? No machinary, farming equipment, or essential non-native resources could be purchased with gold (which they had a lot of) and had to be purchased with the resources mentioned before, so of course the Soviet exported grain. They reduced their use of grain as the famine started to occured, but it was still on of the required trading resources.

Gavin Sanchez
Gavin Sanchez

NEUTRAL AND UNBIASED SOURCES
hehe the hohol will never know

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Easton James
Easton James

If they were more cooperative, trade would have been more viable. Even if they were an oppressive regime, like todays China, they should learn to pay back their debt.

Joshua Hill
Joshua Hill

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Nolan Bailey
Nolan Bailey

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Ian Clark
Ian Clark

Got you in a lie there, you were the first one to mention the word, I was parodying it
No you weren't you were wiggling. You stated that it was the purposeful killing of ukrainians, which would be a genocide, except that it was not and therefore was not.
James Mace attacked Mark tauger and Wheatcroft while providing no argument aside from a vapid claim that they were not "distinguishing" despite their book being quite clear on that. Mace, like Werth has numerously shown himself to be an anti-communist shill.
proven that the primary cause of the famine was man made
False, the famine was not man-made because if it were the hunger would have continued into 1935. but it did not, the majority of deaths were during 1933-34 due to incurable (at the time) diseases, rather than food shortages.
repeating the same bullshit quote.
how lame.
Collectivization had the express purpose of eliminating a social class. Not the individuals belonging to the class but the class and the socio-economic relationships its existence depend on.

Resistance to collectivization (including sabotage), information warfare, poor planning and execution and a severe drought caused mass starvation in large swathes of the USSR, not only in Ukraine. The effects in Ukraine were harsher, however, because Ukraine was the agricultural heart of the USSR and agriculture has traditionally been the most important economic activity in most of Ukraine. Collectivization was not the reason for the famine and was what helped prevent more deaths from occurring. The fact that some places had failures because of mistakes, does not make the collectivization to blame, especially when immediately afterward the USSR did not have another famine until 1946 (caused by WW-2) which broke the almost constant 5 year cycle of famines in Russia over the past millenia.
2756142
see pic 1

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Hunter Cook
Hunter Cook

2756144
If they were more cooperative
You mean if they broke down and let the capitalist west destroy them?
they should learn to pay back their debt.
Wasn't their debt, nor was the debt the reason for the embargo.

Jeremiah Morris
Jeremiah Morris

2756144
If they were more cooperative, trade would have been more viable.
They literally had golden Chervonetz smelted to be used for trade and the west was going through the Great Depression, something an influx of gold could alleviate. But even with such economic problems going on, the west still rejected the use of gold for trade insisting instead on things they already had plenty of from trade with the US.

Owen Anderson
Owen Anderson

CTRL+F [purposeful killing of ukrainians]
Only stated by you in your post.
False, the famine was not man-made because if it were the hunger would have continued into 1935.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What kind of a stupid logic is that, it's like saying that the massive famines in China didn't happen because they didn't get carried into the , (insert year here).
You have direct evidence of Staljins plan failing one by one and you refuse to admit it.
GG

This disparity between agricultural goals and actual production grew later in the year. An expected 190 thousand tons of grain were to be exported, but by August 27, 1932, only 20 thousand tons were ready.

Stalin lowered procurement plan for the Ukrainian SSR by 40 million poods at the end of August 1932

By October 25, the plan for grain collection was lowered once again

Nevertheless, collection reached only 39% of the annually planned total.

etc.

On January 2, targets were again lowered to 62.5 million poods. On January 14, the targets were lowered even further to 33.1 million. At the same time, GPU of Ukraine reported hunger and starvation in the Kiev and Vinnytsia oblasts, and began implementing measures to remedy the situation. The total amount of grain collected by February 5 was only 255 million poods (compared to 440 million poods in 1931), while the numbers of "hunger and malnutrition cases" as registered by the GPU of Ukrainian SSR increased every day.

You mean if they broke down and let the capitalist west destroy them?
I mean, it did, check mate.
:)
Freedom>Totalitarian regimes

Wasn't their debt, nor was the debt the reason for the embargo.
It was a regime change, that still had the duty to change debts. Just because they changed the systems of governments does not mean that the country came from another dimension.

Yeah, because they moved to something more efficient later on in the 70s.

Jaxson Williams
Jaxson Williams

2756147
You're literally arguing this in the OC thread, the least you could have done is make a separate thread for your piss poor arguments.

Jason Gonzalez
Jason Gonzalez

Yeah, because they moved to something more efficient later on in the 70s.
What are you even talking about? You were talking about the famine, were you not? The west rejected the use of payment in gold during the depression and during the famine, that is what I'm saying. They said the soviets could only pay in timber, oil, and/or grain.

Ethan Powell
Ethan Powell

Was thinking you were talking about the GS in general, my bad.
Well yeah, they wanted to put the Soviets in a bad spot, because you know, not paying the debts you had to the countries you owe and all.
But the US had major fuck ups too:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_grain_robbery

Matthew White
Matthew White

Another cool fact:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_gold

Brayden Ortiz
Brayden Ortiz

Only stated by you in your post.
Your first post knowingly planing to kill people with your decisions
Same exact shit.
Second post
Stole more grain from the people to "suppress Ukrainian nationalism"
Causing the birth rate to decrease and infant mortality to increase
Again same shit.
What kind of a stupid logic is that
Collectivization did not stop and continued to be implimented throughout the 30s and the kolkhoz and Sovkhoz system remained throughout the soviet era, in fact when Gorbachev began dismantling that system in the Perestroika the immediate effect was a massive drop in production and starvation to the point where, during the 90s, cannibalism was pretty common. The ukrainians did not reach cannibalism in 1932, despite having a far poorer starting base
it did
No it really didn't the blockade was removed after 1934 and the USSR finished industrialization and became a superpower that crushed about 75% of the nazi forces in WW-2 and managed to be on par with the USA for over half a century. It only fell because of what Michael Parenti described in Blackshirts and Reds.

"Capitalism is not just an economic system, but an entire social order. Once it takes hold, it is not voted out of existence by electing socialists or communists. They may occupy office but the wealth of the nation, the basic property relations, organic law, financial system, and debt structure, along with the national media, police power, and state institutions have all been fundamentally restructured.” - Michael Parenti, Blackshirts & Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism, City Light Books, 1997, p. 119.

The fall of communist states was a result of the combination a number of strange, conspiratorial events: the swift resignations by communist officials unaware of the protesters’ generalized and ambiguous demands, the right-wing seizure of power in these countries, the unlikely scenario of capitalist sympathizers (Yeltsin and Gorbachev) leading the Soviet Union and therefore the whole socialist world, and the West’s keen maneuvers at quickly absorbing as much of Eastern Europe into it’s own sphere of influence when it got the chance, such as NATO and the EU.

The USA has no intention to create rivals on the world markets - why would USA want to have the same strong economies around it? - it would strip USA of incomes and influence - USA is interested to make all other countries WEAK and to achieve it through any means, including subversion, inciting ethnic unrest, demonizing, economic wars, sanctions etc.

Moreover As B.F. Skinner stated, "And if planned economies, benevolent dictatorships, perfectionistic societies, and other utopian ventures have failed, we must remember that unplanned, undictated, and unperfected cultures have failed too. A failure is not always a mistake; it may simply be the best one can do under the circumstances. The real mistake is to stop trying. Perhaps we cannot now design a successful culture as a whole, but we can design better practices in a piecemeal fashion."
It was a regime change, that still had the duty to change debts
It was not a regime change, it was a complete erasure of the entire Russian infrastructure. Not to mention that during the intervention the West pillaged more than enough to cover whatever loans the Russian empire had taken out, loans that belonged to the White Russians who were still an active group with money to boot.
they moved to something more efficient later on in the 70s
Lel
Wow, wikipedia, great source.
muh debts
irrellevant
muh gold
Considering how much the USSR poured into trying to help Spanish communists and the republic it was only fair. Not to mention that it denied the fasciist of Franco the gold reserves they needed to actively help the Germans in WW-2 eliminating an axis ally from being capable of fighting properly.

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Matthew Jones
Matthew Jones

Freedom>Totalitarian regimes

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David Jackson
David Jackson

people died because of government choices
Nu uh my soviets didn't do nufin
The ukrainians did not reach cannibalism in 1932
Survival was a moral as well as a physical struggle. A woman doctor wrote to a friend in >June 1933 that she had not yet become a cannibal, but was "not sure that I shall not be one by the time my letter reaches you." The good people died first. Those who refused to steal or to prostitute themselves died. Those who gave food to others died. Those who refused to eat corpses died. Those who refused to kill their fellow man died. Parents who resisted cannibalism died before their children did.
Collectivization did not stop and continued to be implimented throughout the 30s and the kolkhoz and Sovkhoz system remained throughout the soviet era
It was so good you move the goal ever so lower and lower and lower
Perfect system ain't it.
It was not a regime change, it was a complete erasure of the entire Russian infrastructure.
By, well, all laws, yes, a regime change.
The Soviet police will beat you if you don't have a haircut that they don't like

Sebastian Collins
Sebastian Collins

people died because of government choices
No they died because of a number of factors, including MISTAKES by the government, which is because a government si not an infallible god.
On the topic of debt.
1) All state debts normally disappear after a revolution, because the state that amassed those debts has de facto ceased to exist.
2) The Soviets expressed willingness to pay back at least some of the debts in exchange for a loan to cover the costs of damages inflicted by the imperialist intervention during the Civil War and the granting of diplomatic recognition to the RSFSR. The Entente countries refused.

The Bolsheviks justified their reluctance to repay based (among other things) on the Tsars having secured loans for imperialist purposes (ergo the new anti-imperialist government could hardly be held responsible) and in part on historical precedence, e.g. "Revolutionary France not only tore up the political treaties of the former régime with foreign countries, but also repudiated her national debt. She consented to pay only one-third of that debt, and that from motives of political expediency." (Carr, The Bolshevik Revolution Vol. III, p. 377.)
Perfect system
Never claimed that
The Soviet police will beat you if you don't have a haircut that they don't like
never happened
anecdotal story of 1934 woman who felt like she'd be a cannibal vs actual documented cannibalism in 1921
great evidence.

Aiden Hernandez
Aiden Hernandez

t was so good you move the goal ever so lower and lower and lower
The goal was achieved, keep projecting tho.

After WW-1, a foreign backed civil war and then WW-2 (along side petty sabotage and economic western sanctions) the USSR had received more than its own share of devastation. 20+ million deaths in WW-2, at least 10 million during WW-1 and the civil war. Over 1/5 of its land (a land-mass equal to 1/2 of the entire USA) was burnt to the ground, Millions of buildings, thousands of villages and hundreds of towns, ERASED, along with a large portion of industrial factories and other production. Despite this the USSR rose up and outran the USA in almost every aspect despite the USA being nearly untouched by either war and gaining massively in terms of economics.
The USSR;

Raised life expectancy by 65% [1]
Increased Real Income by 370% [2]
Housing, Medicine, Transport and Insurance accounted for only 15% of family spending, compared to 50% in the USA.
Eliminated Homelessness [3]
Housing was provided based on need, with rent making up 2–3% of the family income, compared to 25–30% in the USA
Eliminated Unemployment [4]
Employment was guaranteed, trade unions had the power to veto firings and recall managers and injured workers had job guarantees and sick pay as well as maternity leave. A minimum of 15 days vacation, annually. (Articles 66–70 of the Soviet Constitution of 1977).
Provided Healthcare was a right [5] and about twice as many doctors as the USA;
"Citizens of the USSR have the right to health protection. This right is ensured by free, qualified medical care provided by state health institutions; by extension of the network of therapeutic and health-building institutions; by the development and improvement of safety and hygiene in industry; by carrying out broad prophylactic measures; by measures to improve the environment; by special care for the health of the rising generation, including prohibition of child labour, excluding the work done by children as part of the school curriculum; and by developing research to prevent and reduce the incidence of disease and ensure citizens a long and active life." (Soviet Constitution, 1936)

Achieved Full Literacy [6]
From a starting point of 38% for men and 12% for women. With School Enrollment raised by 460% [7] And secondary education was a right, funded by the government as long as cumulative grades remained at least at a ‘B’ average. [8]
Subsidized Early Childcare [9]
Fees for pre-school needs did not exceed 2–3% of family income. with 50% of urban and 33% of rural children attending, compared to 10% in the USA over-all.
Lastly they eliminated a Wage gap between Men and Women through equity, provided both sexes opportunities to choose from and grow in. [10] This wage gap was real, unlike the one that modern Social Justice Warriors keep screeching about.

Benjamin Ward
Benjamin Ward

cont.
"Communism under Stalin has produced the most valiant fighting army in Europe. Communism under Stalin has provided us with examples of patriotism equal to the finest annals of history. Communism under Stalin has won the applause and admiration of all the Western nations. Communism under Stalin has produced the best generals in this war. I was always impressed by Lincoln's answer when Grant was charged with taking too much drink.Persecution of Christianity? Not so. There is no religious persecution. The church doors are open. And there is complete freedom to practice religion, just as there is complete freedom to reject it. Racial persecution? Not at all. Jews live like other men. There are many races in the Soviet Union and not even a color bar. Political purges? Of course. But it is now clear that the men who were shot down would have betrayed Russia to her German enemy." - Opportunity to Win War in 1942; A SECOND FRONT IN EUROPE TO AID RUSSIA By LORD BEAVERBROOK, Britain's Lease-Lend Coordinator in Washington Delivered before the Bureau of Advertising of the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 23, 1942

Before the Revolution, 76% of the people were illiterate, including 88% of the women. Virtually complete illiteracy prevailed among the indigenous populations of Siberia and Soviet Central Asia. Indeed, more than 40 languages had not been reduced to writing at all. Prior to the revolution, only 290,000 Russians possessed any kind of higher education, whereas the 1959 census reported that more than 13 Million citizens had some higher or specialized secondary education, and more than 45 million people had 7-10 years of education….Raising the literacy rate from 24% to 98.5% within the span of a single generation for more than 200 million people would be an achievement in itself if only one language were involved, to say nothing of the severe problems posed by a multilingual society…To detail the massive character of the Soviet educational effort in Central Asia, the Uzbek Republic, which is the most advanced of the Central Asian areas today, as it was in pre-Revolutionary Russia, provides an apt illustration. Before the Revolution, only 2% of the population was literate. There were no native engineers, doctors, or teachers with a higher education. In short, Central Asia was no different in this respect from most of the colonial dependencies of the European powers, and worse off than many.Today, in the Uzbek Republic alone, there are 32 institutions of higher learning, more than 100 technicums, 50 special technical schools, 12 teachers' colleges, and 1400 kindergartens. Nearly 2,500,000 children attend school, and more than 50% of its teachers have had some higher education…The rate of literacy is over 95%. The Republic before the Revolution possessed no public libraries: today there are nearly 5,000. The number of books printed in the Uzbek language in 1913 was 118,000; today it approaches 19 million. When this record is compared with that of Iran, Afghanistan, the Arab countries, the states of Southeast Asia, or even Turkey, all of which were at a comparable or more advanced level of educational attainment in 1914, the achievement is impressive…” - Vernon V. Aspaturian, Modern Political Systems: Europe

Ian Morgan
Ian Morgan

cont.
The USSR was in desperate condition at the start however it did not resort to the measures used in the West, and still caught up and exceeded it.

"If we are backward and weak, we may be beaten and enslaved. But if we are powerful, people must beware of us. We are 50 to 100 years behind the advanced countries of the West. We must make up this gap in 10 years. Either we do this or they crush us." - Josef Stalin, First Conference of Workers, 1931

And he did it. In time to be ready to defeat Hitler, whom he saw coming. He did it without forcing the country through the worst horrors of the Industrial Revolution in countries that had gone before. We have forgotten them, they did not. One hundred years into the British Industrial Revolution an Act of parliament was passed to reform working conditions for children, the Factory Act. Children, not adults.

These are its provisions:
- no child workers under nine years of age
- employers must have an age certificate for their child workers
- children of 9-13 years to work no more than nine hours a day
- children of 13-18 years to work no more than 12 hours a day
- children are not to work at night
- two hours schooling each day for children
- four factory inspectors appointed to enforce the law

It took many decades, much longer than the period of basic Soviet industrialization, before this became the norm in England, not an aspiration. Children were worked two days straight, and more. In the mines. In the mills. In the fields and factories. Try to imagine what adults had to do.

The first attempt at passing child labour laws in the U.S. was struck down by the Supreme Court. Eventually one was passed in 1938, but basically unenforced, especially in agricultural work. Children in the Soviet Union, from the very beginning, spent their days in school. Family farms, as everywhere, were probably exceptions, but this was the law and it was enforced. There were bureaucratic hoops to jump through to get permission for an exception.

[1] A. Szymanski, On the Uses of Disinformation to Legitimize Revival of the Cold War: Health and the USSR, Science and Society, Winter, 1981.
[2] Corrigan, Philip, Ramsay, Harvie and Sayer, Derek, Bolshevism and the USSR, New Left Review. No. 125. January.February, 1981.
[4] Gregory, Paul R. and Stuart. Robert C., Soviet Economic Structure and Performance, New York: Harper and Row, 1974.
[5] Sivard, Rush Legar, World Military and Social Expenditures. Leeburg, Virginia: WMSE Publications, 1980.
[6] Mickiewicz, Ruth, Handbook of Soviet Social Science Dam New York: Free Press, 1973.
[7] Central Statistical Board of the USSR, The USSR in Figures for 1978, Moscow Statisika Publishers, 1978.
[3,8,9] George. Vic and Manning, Nick, Socialism, Social Welfare and the Soviet Union, London: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1980.
[10] St. George, George, Our Soviet Sister, New York: Robert B. Luce, 1973

Jordan Roberts
Jordan Roberts

last

Now let me explain the situation prior in more detail

95% of the people from Eastern Europe (mostly within the Russian empire) were poor peasant farmers who owned no land but paid high rents to the country's landlords who made up the middle/upper class, they were rich, privileged and had no problems withholding grain-stocks if necessary. Russian peasants lived in villages cut off from the rest of the world. The villages were not much more than a collection of mud huts lining the main road where illiterate peasants worked as indentured servants, farming the land to keep some food on the table and as payment of rent to wealthy landlords. When land grants were made originally, they were huge. The grantee came into possession of a huge chunk of land and whatever was on it, including towns and villages. The people became serfs, including the townspeople. The shopkeeper or blacksmith was a serf and paying rent or labour to a master on the same basis as a peasant serf. He was not free to move, or to go out of business, but he could start another, and occasionally a town serf would prosper. The town serfs were emancipated before the peasants; the peasants were freed in 1860, but on terms that worsened their living standards and security. The state bought 80% of their land from their landlord and sold it to them on a long-term mortgage. Since they considered it theirs already, this was no windfall. Around the middle of the 1800s, the British abandoned protectionist import barriers to grain, the Corn Laws, which gave southern Russia access to an export market. This created an opportunity for southern Russia to export, and they began growing wheat. The serfs who had originally worked half the landlord’s holding for him and half for themselves had often paid cash rent instead of labour and worked the whole holding for themselves. Now there was a new incentive in the mix and landlords reversed the terms. Serfs lost the produce from the extra land but still had to work it. Whatever entries into the cash economy they had contrived such as planting cash crops like flax frequently had to be abandoned. Russian peasants had one other alternative to a miserable life of tenant farming. They could move to the city to find work in one of the many miserable factories that were springing up all over Russia, becoming proletariat. By Russian law workers couldn’t be forced to work more than 11 ½ hours in a day (already a huge amount), but most factory bosses ignored this and the police were easily bribed to look the other way. Wages were very low, a few rubles for a months work. The factories were dirty, dark, and dangerous. Workers were given free housing but the conditions of these barracks were so terrible that they made a New York City tenement from 1890 look like a room at the Ritz. Each room was nothing more than a long, empty warehouse where each family stayed in a room divided by a piece of cloth. Each “room” was only large enough to fit a bunk bed that often touched the one next to it, (compare that to communals that at the least had proper rooms and were in themselves created ONLY because Tsarist Russia did not provide any proper houses for the people). The Russian Empire's peak production levels were in 1913 and the top estimate put it at about 1/5 of America's production prior to WW 1 (and even less as soon as the war began). The majority of these factories used outdated and inferior equipment, the top line new Battle-cruisers and Battleships that were to be the future of the Russian navy had almost all of its systems and products made over-seas because the Russian industry had no ability to provide an alternative. At the end of WW 1 and the civil war, Russia's production levels were about 0 because almost all the factories had been destroyed. The conclusion is obvious, the USSR was a drastic improvement over the Russian empire.

hist.msu.ru/Labour/Babushkin/index.html
quora.com/What-was-agriculture-like-in-Russia-before-the-Revolution/answer/Cass-Dean

Gavin Ramirez
Gavin Ramirez

Comrade Ben, up and at it again!

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Easton Cruz
Easton Cruz

Gulag Ben, up and at it again! Now with even more labels!

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William Taylor
William Taylor

never happened
When the Beatles turned famous and people started cutting their hair to look like them the government started a crackdown on people who "Westernized" themselves. And yeah, the Soviets were afraid of a popular band. There's a whole documentary about the youth uprisings who wanted to listen to popular songs, wear popular brands, have popular bands play there but no, only state sponsored songs are allowed.
No they died because of a number of factors, including MISTAKES by the government, which is because a government si not an infallible god.
So yeah, they died by Soviet incompetence. They would rather use the food they had to export it, rather than feed the Ukrainians. As I've said earlier, they shipped off food to West Germany to make a profit instead of handing it over to their own people, and Ukraine was hit way harder than Russia itself, that could just be see in the Natural change per 1k, in Russia that was -18.8 while in Ukraine it was -47.4.

Also, nice copy pastas.

<>>2756387
(NO COCKHOLES ALLOWED BYE BYE COCKHOLE)

Xavier Anderson
Xavier Anderson

this projection
Keep projecting retard
the government started a crackdown on people who "Westernized" themselves.
Nope, that wasn't it at all, they cracked down on the black-market of western items sold illegally. Nothing to do with haircuts.
oviets were afraid of a popular band
LOL what, the Soviets didn't ban the Beatles, they banned Rock songs that were vulgar. Not to mention that the USSR and warsaw pact had its own popular bands and musicians
a whole documentary about the youth uprisings who wanted to listen to popular songs, wear popular brands, have popular bands play there but no, only state sponsored songs are allowed.
1) name it
2) so what there are documentaries about how the holocaust wasn't real, moron.
They would rather use the food they had to export it
ignoring numbers again
copy pastas. 90% of what I posted was something I already wrote, the only thing I didn't write was the stuff on debt, that stuff was from /marx/ who were helpful enough to provide an exact set of information, as I did not have any at hand at the time, ignoramus.

Michael Lopez
Michael Lopez

ignoring numbers again
xD

exports 1.8 tons of food
starve your population out and export it to foreign markets instead of feeding it
result in millions of deaths but its ok because they rejected foreign aid and gave them a small number of reserves

KEYPOINT: They could have fed 5 million people with 1.8 tons of food they had but they chose to export it.

You're so mad you forgot to think
communism is g-great guise, y-you just n-n-need to try it again

name it
"How the Beatles Rocked the Kremlin, 2009 documentary by BBC

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Charles Long
Charles Long

They could have fed 5 million people with 1.8 tons of food

Excuse you?

Charles White
Charles White

see the last line in

Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

have I done well

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Kevin Harris
Kevin Harris

it exists and therefor its mine
Waah waah why does someone own things
I want it because I need it therefor it belongs to me

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Luke Williams
Luke Williams

"How the Beatles Rocked the Kremlin, 2009 documentary by BBC
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA wow that trash is your evidence? LOL, the fact that it't a BBC doc about Russia is a red flag.
exports 1.8 tons of food
And imports almost as much
more drivel
rejected foreign aid
There was no foreign aid, at all. They didn't reject it, they refused to let themselves become
HIV
more people in the USA have HIV
Poland
you mean the same Poland that got its ass beat again and again? seems like the only place Poland can be great is either as part of the Warsaw Pact or in fiction.
They could have fed 5 million people with 1.8 tons of food they had but they chose to export it.
Except they imported food and lowered quotas and did a shit ton of relief efforts.
so mad forgot to think
says the guy repeating the same posts and literally ignoring stated evidence contradicting their points while using ONLy biased sources, and ignoring sources that counter them including Ukrainian ones.

It's interesting how you smear the USSR for 1 crisis when the USA literally had the same thing happen; 7 million estimated deaths due to American Famine during Great Depression except that unlike the USSR, they did't have a blockade on them, and had an established economy. Yet the US government is not blamed
pravdareport.com/world/americas/19-05-2008/105255-famine-0/
rt.com/usa/interview-with-boris-borisov/
infowars.com/researcher-famine-killed-7-million-in-us-during-great-depression/

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Christian Gutierrez
Christian Gutierrez

*they refused to let themselves become vassals of the West. Sorry that they were thinking about trying to promote communism and prevent it from being crushed. Casualties are not exactly unexpected in a revolution and in the prevention of counter-revolutions. The fact that these things occurred is because reality is such that measures must be taken, you, try and balance imports and exports to prevent economic collapse and thus maintain the future for hundreds of millions of people, OR let the future go to naught because in the futile attempt to save each and every individual during a time of hardship for EVERYONE is ridiculous.

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Evan Watson
Evan Watson

M-muh exports
Tauger:
"The 1932 grain procurement quota, and the amount of grain actually collected, were both much smaller than those of any other year in the 1930s. The Central Committee lowered the planned procurement quota in a 6 May 1932 decree, which also permitted kolkhoz and peasant trade in grain at free market prices. To encourage increase production, this decree reduced grain procurement quotas for kolkhozy and edinolichniki from the 1931 quota of 22.4 million tons to 18.1 million tons; in partial compensation it raised the sovkhoz quota from 1.7 million tons to 2.5 million tons, for a total procurement quota of 20.6 million tons. Since the preliminary plan composed by the trade commissariat in December 1931 had set grain procurements at 29.5 million tons, the 6 MAY law actually reduced the procurement plan 30 percent. Subsequent decrees also reduced procurement quotas for most other agricultural products.
These decisions were a major policy shift from the preceeding years' attempt to eliminate market forces from the Soviet economy. After the May 1932 decree, Soviet leaders were optimistic that trade by kolkhozy and individual peasants would become as important for urban food supplies as procurements."

"They did try to alleviate the famine. A 25 February 1933 Central Committee decree allotted seed loans of 320,000 tons to Ukraine and 240,000 tons to the northern Caucasus, Seed loans were also made to the Lower Volga and may have been made to other regions as well. Kul'chyts'kyy cites Ukrainian party archives showing that total aid to Ukraine by April 1933 actually exceeded 560,000 tons, including more than 80,000 tons of food. Aid to Ukraine alone was 60 percent greater than the amount exported during the same period. Total aid to famine regions was more than double exports for the first half of 1933. It appeas to have been another consequence of the low 1932 harvest that more aid was not provided: After the low 1931, and 1934, and 1936 harvests procured grain was transferred back to peasants at the expense of exports."

"The harvest decline also decreased the regime's reserves of grain export. This drop in reserves began with the dought-reduced 1931 harvest and subsequent procurements, which procured grain to those areas in 1932. The low 1931 harvest and reallocations of grain to famine areas forced the regime to curtain grain exports from 5.2 million tons in 1931 to 1.73 million in 1932; they declined to 1.68 million in 1933. Grain exported in 1932 and 1933 could have fed many people and reduced the famine: The 354,000 tons exported in the first half of 1933, for example, could have provided nearly 2 million people with daily rations of 1 kilogram for six months. Yet these exports were less than half of the 750,000 tons exported in the first half of 1932. How Soviet leaders calculated the relative costs of lower exports and lower domestic food supplies remains uncertain, but available evidence indicates that further reductions or cessation of Soviet exports could have had serious consequences. Grain prices fell in world markets and turned the terms of trade against the Soviet Union in the early 1930s, its indebtedness rose and its potential ability to pay declined, causing western bankers and officials to consider seizure of Soviet property abroad and denial of future credits in case of Soviet default. Failure to export thus would have threatened the fulfillment of its industrialization plans and, according to some observers, the stability of the regime."

as.wvu.edu/history/Faculty/Tauger/Tauger, 'The 1932 Harvest and the Famine of 1933, SR 91.pdf
Also
the same thing happen in the USA
In the USA this was prettily labelled 'defarming' but the tyrant is still Stalin.
Between 1928-1934 in the USA, over 80% of farming lands were destroyed, 7 million people in agricultural states died of hunger. Can this be called de-Kulakization and Holodomor (many farmers were thrown off their lands by banks)

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John Bennett
John Bennett

Castro has 900 million
This myth is baseless and believed by morons.
Kill more communists than Pinochet
Lel, counter-revolutionaries are now communists.
Che was racist and homophobic
False, Che's anti-negro statements are from his diary when he was an edgy right-wing teenager (just like /pol/), he later changed his views and stated as much. He was not against gay people he was against idpol faggotry.
hipsters are socialist
lel.

try harder /pol/

Noah Peterson
Noah Peterson

Yep. I'd make it neater in formating of the text but otherwise it's spot on.

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Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz

And imports almost as much
not displaying the numbers
using much as a term to describe numerical data
170k+ later on 325 tons do not equal anything near 1.8m
still ignoring the fact that they shipped off 1.8m tons of food that could have been used to help the people

There was no foreign aid, at all.
Yeah, because the state has underplayed the famine and denying any form of foreign aid, because they loved their people so much.

more people in the USA have HIV
Per capita, not really, and you know, the US has a bigger population size.

54 Russia 5.89 per 1,000 people
69 United States 3.27 per 1,000 people

says the guy repeating the same posts and literally ignoring stated evidence contradicting their points while using ONLy biased sources, and ignoring sources that counter them including Ukrainian ones.
posting comments from biased scholars, self proclaimed Staljinists
Check
Example
Grover Furr
post opinions on academics with bad methodologies
Check
Example
Tauger
"Historian James Mace wrote that Tauger's argument "is not taken seriously by either Russians or Ukrainians who have studied the topic." David Marples, professor of history at the University of Alberta, was critical of Tauger's claims, stating: "Dr. Tauger and other scholars fail to distinguish between shortages, droughts and outright famine. There is no such thing as a 'natural' famine, no matter the size of the harvest. A famine requires some form of state or human input." Tauger's evidence, methodologies and conclusions in regard to the famine were criticized by Robert Davies and Stephen Wheatcroft in their book The Years of Hunger: Soviet Agriculture, 1931–33, published in 2004."
Posting moonrunes.ru
Check
Example, above
Oh golly gee

7 million estimated deaths due to American Famine during Great Depression except that unlike the USSR
Seven and a half million people does not mean the number of particular victims of the famine, but a general demographic loss, or the difference between the supposed population on the date of the census that was due to be held in 1940 and the factual number of people.
BTFO'd by your own source
infowars
Pravda (an old propaganda outlet)
rt (seriously)
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

1930 Census: 122,775,046 population
Seven million missing where?
1940 Census: 132,164,569 population.

“Population health did not decline and indeed generally improved during the 4 years of the Great Depression, 1930–1933, with mortality decreasing for almost all ages, and life expectancy increasing by several years in males, females, whites, and nonwhites. For most age groups, mortality tended to peak during years of strong economic expansion (such as 1923, 1926, 1929, and 1936–1937). In contrast, the recessions of 1921, 1930–1933, and 1938 coincided with declines in mortality and gains in life expectancy. The only exception was suicide mortality which increased during the Great Depression, but accounted for less than 2% of deaths. “
Source:
pnas.org/content/106/41/17290.full

This myth is baseless and believed by morons.
Forbes estimate, which is, much better than you.
Lel, counter-revolutionaries are now communists.
Everyone Staljin killed deserved to die
False, Che's anti-negro statements are from his diary when he was an edgy right-wing teenager (
Nu-uh, it's fake because he wrote those statements when he was younger
top lel

False, Che's anti-negro statements are from his diary when he was an edgy right-wing teenager (
(COCKHOLES TO THE ZOOS)

Kevin Taylor
Kevin Taylor

Forgot to add the picture
MUH 7 MILLION

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Connor James
Connor James

youtube.com/watch?v=A91F0wOOehQ

Jason Gomez
Jason Gomez

not displaying the numbers
already did.
170k+ later on 325 tons do not equal anything near 1.8m
Wow you're a piece of work. already covered this horse-shit before, here is more on it:

because the state has underplayed the famine
False, I already posted numerous quotes citing the fact that Soviet leadership was not immediately aware of the issues until things were already rolling.
denying any form of foreign aid
NO AID WAS OFFERED.
they loved their people so much
Let's see, get food and be a slave of Western capitalists for the rest of your life and your children's lives, or fight and survive to rise up and oppose them… HMMMMM?
the US has a bigger population size.
The USSR and USA had a comparable population size in 1990. During that time HIV was far more prevalent in the USA, this became more problematic after the USSR fell and capitalism came, and all the degenerate shit that came with it.
posting comments from biased scholars
Tauger is not biased nor Wheatcroft, and I dare you to prove that Ukrainian Nationalists are somehow pro-communist. Your Mace quote was not an argument just a nit-pick on numbers being assigned to different things, not that the numbers were wrong. Furr not withstanding, most of my dozen+ sources are not biased. All of yours are either Ukrainian nationalist drivel or MI-6 drivel.
moonrunes
Google translate, not to mention that the site has primary sourcing and is actually an argument. Your argument is nothing more than Ad hominum.
BTFO'd by your own source
No not really, I stated that the USA did similar things and that 7 million people died, despite this no-one is accusing the USA of intentionally murdering them. That was my argument.
RT, Pravda, Infowars
Not an argument, you're attacking the source, not the content, which uses primary sources, twat.
Seven million missing where?
10 years is plenty of time for birth rates to rise again. the famine lasted 3 years AT MOST, and the numbers lost were recovered quickly and over-shot by a large margin in the USSR, the same can be assumed in the USA.
Forbes estimate
Forbes is a capitalist shill source caught lying numerous time.
it's fake
Never said that twat
everyone stalin killed
<muh gorillions
quora.com/Is-it-true-that-there-is-no-evidence-at-all-that-Stalin-killed-60-million/answer/Chuck-Garen
pnas
And? That's irrelevant. the USA was an established industrial power, the USSR was not, it was recovering from devastating WW1 and Intervention and was rapidly industrializing, yet despite that, unlike the USA:
Something you conveniently ignored, bitch.

Blake Myers
Blake Myers

Here, a simplified, infograph post, for your illiterate arse.

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John White
John White

muh jpgs
top lel
Wanna check if your grandpa is on the list?

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John Reed
John Reed

NO AID WAS OFFERED

Ukrainian Canadian farmers offered to send aid to help the starving victims of the Holodomor, but this assistance was refused by Soviet authorities, said the keynote speaker at the Holodomor commemoration organized by the Ukrainian Canadian Congress, Edmonton Branchat City Hall, Nov. 23.

“During 1932-1933 more pressure from the West could certainly have been applied on the Soviet regime on the matter of the famine. A major problem, though, was that the Soviet regime was denying that there was a famine,” said Dr. Serge Cipko, Coordinator of the Ukrainian Diaspora Studies Initiative at the Kule Ukrainian Canadian Studies Centre, Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies at the University of Alberta.

Source:
artsrn.ualberta.ca/cius-sites/ukrcan/Diaspora/Research/2013-12-31_USSRrefusedCanadianaid.pdf

In the Soviet Union, authorities all but banned discussion of the famine, and Ukrainian historian Stanislav Kulchytsky stated the Soviet government ordered him to falsify his findings and depict the famine as an unavoidable natural disaster, to absolve the Communist Party and uphold the legacy of Stalin

Source:
Levy, Clifford (15 March 2009). "A New View of a Famine That Killed Millions"

William Gomez
William Gomez

2757191
I was refering to Furr
I know, and I mentioned specifically that MOST of my sources are unbiased. which is why your harping on Furr is pointless as his stuff makes up ZERO of my anti-holodomor argument and only is part of my mini-post on Katyn, twat.
You don't even know how to read
The pot calling the kettle black
No, they didn't.
They did, based on the same methodology used to calculate your Ukrainian famine numbers. Your chart ONLY references CITIES, when most people did not live in cities at the time.
Accusing the other side of using and ad hom, while using an ad hom
1) Still haven't adressed the fact that you're still using it.
2) That wasn't ad hominum, that's pointing out facts. Your sources are ukrainian nationalists and anti-communists like Mace.
literally unsupported by data
sure bud, sure
we can see a massive drop in Ukrainian birth rates
false equivalency
stay mad
pot calling the kettle black
enjoy your bubble of ignorance
Man you really are an iron pot, that's how thick you are
jpgs
No refutation. It's a summary because you don't read written sources.
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And what about it? the fuck is that supposed to prove? that people were arrested? no-one denies that, doesn't make them wrong
I'll be off now
Good, stay out, ignoramus, you've brought nothing new and only proven once more that /pol/ dogmatism is thicker and denser than the Earth's crust

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Grayson Bennett
Grayson Bennett

Ukrainian Canadian farmers offered to send aid to help the starving victims of the Holodomor, but this assistance was refused by Soviet authorities, said the keynote speaker at the Holodomor commemoration organized by the Ukrainian Canadian Congress, Edmonton Branchat City Hall, Nov. 23.

The Ukrainian Canadian COngress is made up of people descended from the OUN UPA, saved by the CIA from being executed for being nazi collaborationists whose crimes were comparable to those of groups like Dirlewanger, a fact that they were aware of when they rescued them. Their words are unreliable and anecdotal
authorities all but banned discussion of the famine
False.
Stanislav Kulchytsky
An obscure ukrainian nationalist who heroizes Stepan Bandera, (calling him a hero) and who like the rest of your posts is both biased and has no concrete evidence.
Source
from a New York Times article… Wow it's like you're trying to prove that you're retarded.

Literally every single one of your sources has been covered either in my posts or my sources, which you have ignored wholly.

Here is 1 of those sources, which covers literally the entire thing: garethjones.org/tottlefraud.pdf

ANd that's ignoring the rest of them yet you keep repeating your Mace quote and out-of-context stats along with Ukie nationalist drivel, like a broken record.

Thomas Sanders
Thomas Sanders

The Years of Hunger: Soviet Agriculture
You understand the conclusion they come to in this book is that the famine was not created on purpose and that the Soviets did not intentionally starve the Ukrainians, right? They do argue mismanagement during the start of the crisis, yes, but that of overestimation by the Soviets in regards to harvest and, most importantly, confusion in regards to what to do in response to the natural disasters and agricultural disruption which had drastically lowered those harvests and forced them into rationing the now insufficient quantities to those groups which were deemed absolutely necessary for the economy to run and society to function.
In regards to the natural disaster which caused this all spiral downward, it was unusual environmental conditions in 1932 (quoting here) "in which extremely wet and humid weather gave rise to severe plant disease infestations, especially rust. Ukraine had double or triple the normal rainfall in 1932. Both the weather conditions and the rust spread from Eastern Europe, as plant pathologists at the time documented. Soviet plant pathologists in particular estimated that rust and other fungal diseases reduced the potential harvest in 1932 by almost nine million tons, which is the largest documented harvest loss from any single cause in Soviet history." You can read about this, I can post the pdf's if you want.

Honestly, why is nobody addressing the main source he's using? It doesn't argue what he thinks it does.

Liam Scott
Liam Scott

why is nobody addressing the main source he's using
His main source is Ukrainian nationalist stuff actually, he brought up Mace later.
I had sources on Mace's bullshit but my old laptop crashed last year so I lost most of my sources.

(PS do not bump thread until retard leaves)

Cameron Perry
Cameron Perry

I saw that pic somewhere.
The ukrainians did not reach cannibalism in 1932
Reach, but only coz culaks resist collectivization and literally hoard and rot groin and spread anti soviet propaganda.
Resistance to collectivization (including sabotage)
You cant imagine how strong classcuck ideas in Ukraine.
On the topic of debt.
In fact almost all Russian empire debts leak into bourgeois pockets. Why soviet peoples shod pay that debts?
from a New York Times article
Pic

Conclusion : Its a pity but Soros propaganda work wery well in Ukraine.

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Leo Young
Leo Young

Ignore the ukronazi and post OC as usual.

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Nolan Sanders
Nolan Sanders

(me)
To add to this, not only does The Years of Hunger not argue that the famine was intentional or that the soviets intentionally starved the Ukrainians, but none of the works by those who attempted to take an unbiased look at the famine argue this either. At the very worst the information shows panic and confusion, not intentional starvation.
2757221
Conquest
By posting this you deny yourself the right to call anyone's sources biased. Conquest is famously biased and has been know to fudge numbers and information especially in regards to military doctrine, kill counts, and total force numbers. If using Furr is unacceptable, using Conquest is admitting complete ignorance of history. No established historian views his as reputable.
Stephen Bandera
Come on now, this is blatantly poor sourcing. You're sourcing a literal Ukrainian nationalist you has no evidence for his accusations on his part.

Lincoln Turner
Lincoln Turner

don't burst my b-bubble n-nazi
DELETS MY POST
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

While the Soviet government admitted that some peasantry died, it also sought to launch a disinformation campaign, in February 1983, to blame drought. The head of the directorate for relations with foreign countries for the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU), A. Merkulov, charged Leonid Kravchuk, the chief ideologue for the Communist Party in Ukraine, with finding rainfall evidence for the Great famine. This new evidence was to be sent to the Novosti press centers in the U.S. and Canada, denouncing the "antidemocratic base of the Ukrainian bourgeois Nationalists, the collaboration of the Banderists and the Hitlerite Fascists during the Second World War." Kravchuk's inquiry into the rainfalls for the 1932-1933 period found that they were within normal parameters. Nevertheless, the official position regarding drought did not change.

MUH DROUGHTS

MUH NO AID

Foreign relief rejected by the State. Respectively 176,200 and 325,000 tons of grains provided by the State as food and seed aids between February and July 1933.
Export 1.8 million, give them half
What a deal.

Source: Davies, Robert W.; Wheatcroft, Stephen G. (2010). The Years of Hunger: Soviet Agriculture 1931–1933.

You're sourcing a literal Ukrainian nationalist
Nu uh, don't use Ukrainian sources, use Official Soviet statements that were sugar coated under heavy damage control
Sure thing fam

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Daniel Smith
Daniel Smith

use Official Soviet statements that were sugar coated under heavy damage control
Nope not what I said.
don't burst bubble
Look who's talking
repeating same quote despite being debunked by over a dozen posts with sources and plenty of stats.
source
cherrypick

/pol/ confirmed for brainlets yet again.

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Tyler Ortiz
Tyler Ortiz

Resolution of the SNK of the USSR of 1933 "On the resettlement to Ukraine of 21,000 families of collective farmers"

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Luke Allen
Luke Allen

Yes and?

Sebastian Perry
Sebastian Perry

just interesting

Christian Russell
Christian Russell

repeating same quote despite being debunked by over a dozen posts with sources and plenty of stats.

I prove them wrong with detail and explain why the Soviets caused the famine and exported grain that could have been used to feed the people

Export 1.8 m tons of food that could have been used to feed them, five million people for one year

Note the aprox. number of people killed

Note the birth rate that dropped

Note the abuses of the Soviets towards the people

Nu uh nothing happened they just had bad weather lol

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Angel Gray
Angel Gray

Again using Years of Hunger as a source for proving intentional starvation
Can you actually read it before attempting to source it?
use Official Soviet statements that were sugar coated under heavy damage control
I'm unironically using The Years of Hunger, the same source you're quoting. Actually read it.

Kayden Gomez
Kayden Gomez

see

Camden Cooper
Camden Cooper

can i somehow improve visibility here? It's really hard to read but conversation is interesting

Aiden Martinez
Aiden Martinez

I need this

Ethan Rivera
Ethan Rivera

See moron

Anthony Thomas
Anthony Thomas

Export 1.8 m tons of food that could have been used to feed them, five million people for one year
We explained the gold blockade, to which you said they should pay back their debts regardless, even if its with resources. So what is it? What should they do? They also need to industrialize, something doubly proven true by the events that occurred in the years that followed. In addition, by the actions taken no famine ever occurred again. You also assume they did not send relief, which they did when information actually was revived by the Bureau youtube.com/watch?v=SMBJ_nQ4sTA.

Again, you're argument is intentional starvation, something The Years of Hunger, which is goes into depth in its research and is far from Pro-Soviet, refutes. Here is the pdf if you haven't read it.

Ian Parker
Ian Parker

*was received by the Bureau

Hunter Cruz
Hunter Cruz

Note the abuses of the Soviets towards the people
anecdotes by ukrainian nationalists
prove wrong in detail
Spamming the same quote and ukrainian nationalist anecdotes is not detail. Not to mention cherry-picked statistics and contextless statements that show your ignorance, even of your own sources

I'm sorry I called you an ignoramus, that's an insult to the ignoramuses of the world to be associated with a dense twat like you.

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Liam Parker
Liam Parker

"Our study of the famine has led us to very different conclusions from
Dr Conquest’s. He holds that Stalin ‘wanted a famine’,142 that ‘the
Soviets did not want the famine to be coped with successfully’,143 and
that the Ukrainian famine was ‘deliberately inflicted for its own
sake’.144 This leads him to the sweeping conclusion: ‘The main lesson
seems to be that the Communist ideology provided the motivation for
an unprecedented massacre of men, women and children.’145
We do not at all absolve Stalin from responsibility for the famine.
His policies towards the peasants were ruthless and brutal. But the
story which has emerged in this book is of a Soviet leadership which
was struggling with a famine crisis which had been caused partly by
their wrongheaded policies, but was unexpected and undesirable. The
background to the famine is not simply that Soviet agricultural policies
were derived from Bolshevik ideology, though ideology played its
part. They were also shaped by the Russian pre-revolutionary past,
the experiences of the civil war, the international situation, the intransigeant
circumstances of geography and the weather, and the modus
operandi of the Soviet system as it was established under Stalin. They
were formulated by men with little formal education and limited
knowledge of agriculture. Above all, they were a consequence of the
decision to industrialise this peasant country at breakneck speed."

TBH I agree with this, but still the objective point stands, they traded grain for money, instead of giving it to their own population. Also, in the video tell OP to talk about them bragging about sending grain to Hamburg while Ukrainian villagers starved.

Or you could, you know, accept that it was a regime change and negotiate on how to pay back the debt like a normal country?

anecdotes by ukrainian nationalists
Snyder and Ellman
Sure thing, do you have anything to prove them wrong or is anything that does not fit your world view AN EBIL NAZI

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Owen Rogers
Owen Rogers

but still the objective point stands, they traded grain for money, instead of giving it to their own population.
They traded grain for farming and industrial equipment mostly. Straight money transactions were usually not done.
Or you could, you know, accept that it was a regime change and negotiate on how to pay back the debt like a normal country?
But the point is that the western counties did not accept them as legitimate despite negotiations. That's the whole point of the gold blockade. Despite having the gold to pay the western countries, nearly every Western country refused to accept the gold chevonetz, primarily because it would legitimize the USSR internationally, instead demanding grain, oil, and/or timber (usually a mix of all three). They literally would not accept anything else.

Joshua Thompson
Joshua Thompson

Snyder and Ellman
Unsourced anecdotes by them as well, not to mention that Snyder was debunked. dismissed.
the objective point stands, they traded grain for money, instead of giving it to their own population
They did, but the famine was not the biggest problem at the time, and if they failed to export and buy necessary stuff the country would collapse, the famine would grow into the 10s of millions in casualties, the people would be vassals to western imperialists and all that would be achieved would be MAYBE the feeding of a few million people in the short run, at the cost of dooming them ALL in the long run. That's what life is about, making hard choices. Hindsight is 20/20
hem bragging about sending grain to Hamburg while Ukrainian villagers starved.
Didn't happen.
accept that it was a regime change and negotiate on how to pay back the debt like a normal country?
I repeat
1) All state debts normally disappear after a revolution, because the state that amassed those debts has de facto ceased to exist.

2) The Soviets expressed willingness to pay back at least some of the debts in exchange for a loan to cover the costs of damages inflicted by the imperialist intervention during the Civil War and the granting of diplomatic recognition to the RSFSR. The Entente countries refused.

The Bolsheviks justified their reluctance to repay based (among other things) on the Tsars having secured loans for imperialist purposes (ergo the new anti-imperialist government could hardly be held responsible) and in part on historical precedence, e.g. "Revolutionary France not only tore up the political treaties of the former régime with foreign countries, but also repudiated her national debt. She consented to pay only one-third of that debt, and that from motives of political expediency." (Carr, The Bolshevik Revolution Vol. III, p. 377.)
do you have anything to prove them wrong
Yes, the sources I posted and which you did not read. Even Furr's BLood Lies is a source that ought to be read because no-one has actually debunked that book, only complained about biases, factually it blows Snyder's trash out of the water.

Blake Barnes
Blake Barnes

Imagine not wanting to accept a group of politicians (Boljseviks) that lost the elections and took power, you know, lost the elections to the Soc-rev. Imagine thinking they'd accept any deal, if you know, they can't accept the results of a democratic election.

What exactly did you debunk, except the imaginary stuff in your head? Ellman literally states the same information Furr stated, but Furr added subjectivism in his works, Ellman didn't.
The fact remains, 1.8 sold, taken from from Ukraine that could have been used to feed them.
Didn't happen.
The opposition generated within the Soviet republics had no more success in stopping grain exports than the protests from without. Ukrainian grain was sold to Germany, France, Finland and other Western European countries. Pravda, a Communist Party paper in Kiev, could brag on February 28, 1923, that 16,000 tons of Ukrainian grain had just arrived in Hamburg, and a week later inform its readers of deaths from hunger in Mykolayiv.
Dr. Bohdan Krawchenko of "Famine in Ukraine 1932-1933"
UKRINIAN NATIONALIST NAZI THAT RAPES LITTLE COMMUNISTS CHILDREN EVERY DAY AND STEALS BILLIONS FROM THE POOR
PROOF: pravda.ru/evilnazi/

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