Do unironic Nazbols/strasserists exist in todays world? It's better than pure nazism, but
is quite a worldview to have
Do unironic Nazbols/strasserists exist in todays world? It's better than pure nazism, but
Tyler Peterson
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Mason Taylor
Check this shit out. Watch the whole thing btw
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Christian Gomez
Well, former Zig Forumslack here. I started off unironic NazBol and Str*sserist and moved left from there. I don't consider myself nazbol anymore, and still consider myself Str*sserist to an extent, but i'm not really racist, capitalist in any way, or homophobic or anything. Never was. NazBol / Str*sserism is sort of a dirty word around here and i get banned often because of it, which is unfortunate because nobody really cares to ask about my beliefs because it's a meme and they already know everything about it. I still enjoy the memes though.
Julian Adams
The Nazbol Party still exists in Russia, even if it's far less relevant than it was a decade ago. It's also not really racist, more Mussolinite and anti-globalist. Has little to do with the memes
Daniel Peterson
Seriously, can someone explain to me what the fuck Nazbol actually is? Any actual theory works written on it? Because it just looks like ML with a layer of racism and conservatism to me
Ryder Thomas
On the racialism thing, Russian Nazbol is inherently based on Russian Eurasianism: aka the concept that Russia is not European because the mongols introduced an "asiatic character" to its people. As such it has the right to rule over Siberia and Central Asia, and must never align itself with Europe. It rejects racialism as inherently false, since Russia can rule over so many races.
One of these days I will go through the many forms of Russian nationalism, is v interesting.
Eli Long
Lincoln Phillips
Conservatism maybe, racism no. The actual theory has little to do with race, in fact i believe dugin is anti-wh*toid if that means anything.
Jose Taylor
probably a few scattered around and concentrated in slav countries.
I'm just there for the memes, idfk any nazbol theory
Aiden Lopez
Huh. Wasn't Russian Nazbolism also a sort of prank thing, at least in the beginning? I'm thinking of Limonov here. Or I wonder if that's like: don't be confused by the irony, they are actually serious.
Angel Hall
Nazbols were founded in Russia as an art project by some hipsters, it was supposed to be contradictory on purpose. Then it turned into actual political activism, and was influenced by Dugin's theories (although it ISN'T 100% Eurasianist and Dugin eventually left Nazbol).
Basically it opposes democracy, liberalism and capitalism and seeks to have Russia that is leftist internally but is aggressively imperialist externally. In practice Nazbols are mostly anti-establishment performance artists/lifestylists.
You can read Eduard Limonov and some Dugin to understand what it is about.
Brody Stewart
Prank? No. Joke? Sorta. It came from the Russian punk movement in the 1980s and 1990s which took Russian soviet patriotism (which was falling out of fashion due to Gorby and Yeltsin) and turned it up to 100. They openly held aloft Stalin banners during a time when supposedly Russia was jettisoning all of that. Think of it how Western punk adopted anarchism, scandie and eastern european punk adopted fascism and that.
Lucas Campbell
my god
Camden Butler
Dugin's book is literally called "the fourth ideology".
Jeremiah Lee
Strasserist reporting in. Fascism isn't inherently racially supremacist, see Plínio Salgado and the AIB. That's the model I'd propose in America
Joseph Wood
Hey holy fuck that's me lol. I didn't expect my shit to show up on Zig Forums this is gold.
Brayden Rodriguez
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Jason Miller
Wanna convert too faggot?
*unzips*
Noah Hernandez
Kayden Reed
I would unironically consider myself a civic nationalist and socialist at the same time, and so I could be called Nazbol to some extent.
Jordan Jackson
no
Nicholas Miller
Honestly how is this considered a fascist statement when fascism is the logical conclusion of liberalism?
Henry Ross
So Hitler didn't want to destroy Liberalism as well as Communism? or am I missing something?
Kevin Rivera
Liberalism is fundamentally tied with capitalism. Hitler hated liberalism, sure, but by leaving capitalism intact he only allowed liberalism to stay as well. Read Str*sser.
Brayden Thomas
What did he mean by this 🤔
Luis Richardson
i wonder who could be behind this post
Evan Gutierrez
We're cool with Juche right?
Blake Rogers
Ok so for one, I'm a Duginist who is a socialist in the Marxian sense and I'm not a Fascist in any way or a turd positionist, neither is Dugin. I'm a 4th positionist/Eurasianist as described in Dugin's 4th Political Theory book. Second, Asser was never a socialist, he preserves capital, he's a socdem or a a farther left version of orthodox Not Socialism, so therefore a Asserite society in your view would be liberal as well. Third, Hitler's Germany had done away with liberalism and the individualism of the Weimar era entirely, he installed a Corporate state which isn't entirely the same as Capitalism but is still dictated by Capital, I would never proclaim Fascism is in any way liberal, that's idiotic.
Samuel Ramirez
NazBol originated in 1920s Germany with Junger, Niekisch and the Assers, not 90s Russia.