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Is Zig Forums literally the only socialist website on the internet? Revleft (if it even still exists) is absolute shit tier. So are all "left wing" subreddits. Zig Forums only has around 850 active ISPs, where are all other socialists at?
Find a new FOSS "left wing" forum (raddle.me)
Joseph Ross
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Nicholas Lopez
Raddle (or raddit to use its old name) is one of the worst idpol holes out there. It was set up by users from r/anarchism who were unhappy that the reddit admins banned their sub r/leftwithsharpedge for vomiting out death and rape threats at people they didn't like. They came to the entirely sensible conclusion that if they wanted to do as they pleased without oversight they needed a forum they controlled. Having used entryism and sockpuppeting to gain functional control of r/anarchisms moderation, they've proceeded to shill the fuck out of it there. The site owner, ziq/eeplox/nowaydaddioh (pic related), is a Cypriot primitivist who proclaims that white people are evil because he received some racial abuse while a schoolchild in the UK. He also claims not to be white because he is genetically similar to Syrians (digression: seeing him do this is one of the larger reasons I think people who dogmatically claim things are social constructs are full of shit). Honorable mention for Enkara, the trans ex-mod of r/anarchism who thinks unwanted hugs are rape and has expressed regret for lopping off the cock amongst other things.
James James
I’m not tryna role play gulag rape fantasies fam
Ryan Moore
Yes.
Every leftwing forum is ruled over by power mad mods who ban you for slight deviation from idpol.
leftypol is an anomaly that popped up that is more laid back. My personal take is that imageboards that facilitate anonymity are actually the complete oppiste of identity politics.
If you are user you basically have no identity.
Daniel Adams
Are you fucking surprised? Reddit is so bad r/holocaust is an holocaust denial sub, on reddit things don't work like in any other place.
Adrian Butler
The left has been entirely infected by SJWs. Nobody cares about supporting poor people, all they care about is shutting down free speech and hating men. Zig Forums is literally the only leftist community that's actually about leftism and not hating men.
some of the Bernie subreddits were actually pretty okay. With how much hate he was getting just for being a white male they woke up. But with the election over, that's dead and now it's just """leftist""" subreddits that are actually about how men are terrible.
Isaac Miller
RevLeft.
Austin Harris
TOO BAD THE DAMN SERVERS ARE NEVER POSTED
Carson Russell
used to lurk there, there's a chat too
they couldn't tell me why i should put idpol over class struggle
lol
Cameron Cook
All of 8ch is small place m8.
Gamergate tried the hardest to attract new people and I doubt this place could do a bigger push to attract new people.
also the chan user apect is a filter for those who only want a torture chamber and no bad feefees, you need certain thickness in your skin to get past that and a lot of the leftcom-antifa-trans-trotskists-united rich kiddies can't get past the "communism is where ppl feel good n don't offent ppl" aspect.
Christian Howard
Do you actually need anywhere else? You will get faster responses on here or Zig Forums. I mean I don't even know why you'd use an anti idpol left wing subreddit or forum if its just going to be slow as shit
Anthony Brown
I just thought I'd post this to gloat about the fact eeplox has proven such an unbearable shithead he's been forced off his own site. :^)
raddle.me
Ryan Collins
what's so bad about revleft
it's hard to believe it could be worse than here given what I heard of its history and posts like this and all
Camden Torres
If there was a leftist community with a "no trannies allowed" policy it would thrive. Our movement's problem can more or less be boiled down to a cadre of extremely computer literate, hyper-online, mentally ill young men who lord over discourse with autistic fury. If there was literally one single platform that told them to fuck off but allowed anything else, we'd be golden.
Christian Hughes
Am I supposed to sympathize with this guy? He's a fucking idiot that can't separate symbolism from reality.
I get what you mean, but it would just attract idiots like Sargon instead.
Liam Jackson
There is literally nothing wrong with accepting transsexuals if you could just filter out idpol shit.
Sebastian Hernandez
Michael Bennett
"I am a woman trapped in a man's body" is an inherently anti-materialist and reactionary stance to hold, and is a very effective litmus test in separating real leftists from raised-by-their-computer rose emoji narcissists.
You're probably right.
Levi Jenkins
Gender dysphoria is a recognized mental illness with strong physical evidence from brain scans. I don't even like these people, but that seems fairly materialist to me.
Joshua Rogers
Not really it's a mental illness which just so happens the best treatment is to transition. Even then there are differences between gender identity and their sex with chemicals being unbalanced in the brain are the causes of this, and there are plenty of studies proving this. In fact calling transsexuals or people who suffer from gender dysphoria as being "reactionary" screams reactionary in itself since your the one denying proven medical science.
Gender dysphoria is a very real thing and the idea that you are lumping millions of people world wide in all conditions of life who suffer this very illness as all being the "internet tranny" type is stupid and sounds like you fell for the le evil sjw tranny memes
Sebastian Cooper
Revleft has been shit since at least 2012.
Luke Hill
Depressed people also register under "brain scans" (which are more pseudo-scientific than you think), because there is indeed a chemical component to the malaise, but that doesn't mean the very real ailments are an intrinsic quality of the individual that simply have to be accepted. The popular sentiment of "owning one's mental illness" reflects what Mark Fisher called "the privatization of stress"–the refusal of society to acknowledge the structural roots of depression.
Gender dysphoria manifests under similar conditions. It's no surprise that cases have skyrocketed in conjunction with:
1.) The growing social capital associated with being a first-world woman under neoliberalism
2.) A society that is still profoundly sexist: one that associates weakness with femininity, and sociopathy with success
Should it be any wonder that depressed, underemployed, anime-bred CS undergrad virgins are seeking a reset button in the form of "becoming a trap?" They were already called faggots their entire life, so it would probably work out, right? Most of them have an understanding of sexuality cribbed from male-pandering media and our psychotic masculine/feminine incel/chad dichotomy, furthering the alienation. Put somebody that culture-addled, that frazzled, under a primitive machine and yeah–something is going to show up.
Should society respond by saying "you know what? You are a fucking queer. Take these sterilizing hormones," or maybe challenge what it means to be masculine/feminine, in addition doing away with the material consequences of "failure" entirely?
Nathaniel Smith
only a small minority of online transsexuals are affected by the disorder, most of them pretend to be for attention and the moral high ground.
Brandon Gutierrez
Still counts.
What a load of shit, depression has numerous potential causes. Sometimes it's genetic, other times because of life trauma, etc.
Not really, it's just a fad among confused teenagers that want attention. Psychiatrists are wary of it.
Bentley Flores
Correlation does not imply causation although most certainly capitalism and it's effects on society do form the large majority of mental illness in society that does not mean that without Capitalism or even with full Communism that gender dysphoria or mental illness wouldn't exist (they would obviously decrease), the liberal society's we have today do come with the benefits of at least some social mobility, mostly who you associate and roughly live with (not so much economical mobility) along with vast acceptance of different cultures and religions. These liberal democracies and the """tolerance""" they show allow human conditions and otherwise socially unacceptable mental illness and outlying human conditions ie homosexuality/trans issues/natural depression to come to the forefront of society and so encourage other sufferers of these conditions to also come forth therefore increasing a "net growth" of them since people hiding under previous reactionary cultural/religious society's no longer feel the need to hide. Rather then Capitalism creating Gender dysphoria and homosexuality it is the more lax and open society's we have compared to the 50's for instance which do away with many previous unacceptable ways to act.
Are a unknown amount of Gender dysphoric and transsexuals possibly "created" due to the conditions of capitalism instead of naturally occurring? Sure i can see that being a possibility
Is Gender dysphoria only created because of Capitalism and it's effects on society? Absolutely not it's a naturally occurring rare phenomena just like Schizophrenia which isn't tied to whenever or not a society is Capitalist or Feudral or Socialist.
Gender dysphoria is real and the best proven treatment we have are those hormones. Therapy dosn't fix their issues nowhere near the same hormones and transitioning in a open society does. Doctors don't just give them out like candy only after several months and proven suffering because of the conditions are they given. People literally starve themselves to slow down puberty for instance since say mtf hate body hair and other normal male things so much because they feel so wrong about it, talking with a psychiatrist does little and statistics show those who change often feel better.
That is a fair point if the sufferer just felt out of place and different, they however don't, they feel totally in the wrong gender and wish to be the other not somewhere in the middle. These suffers don't just dislike male social activities and such they feel out of place in their own bodies going so far to in cases kill themselves over such a fact.
So? What does it matter if a minority of people fake a disease? If you just wanted idpol off a board you could just state such a thing instead of broadly banning an entire group of people because some attention seekers online made some sjw posts. Broadly labeling an entire group because of some online sjw attention seekers is in fact idpol.
Bentley Wright
I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.
Of course symptoms "still count." They're real. But they also can't be dismissed as mysterious brain alchemy. Most depression/dysphoria results from the way our society is structured. We teach people to hate themselves.
Benjamin Collins
It's called a chemical imbalance. Cut the hippie bullshit, not everything is a social construct.
Jason Phillips
such as living in a capitalist society
why the fuck are you dumb faggots arguing about trannies
Brody Thompson
Oh great it's another leftypol hates trans people for some bizarre reason thread. They're such a small minority who just want to wear a fucking dress and call themselves Melinda or something, and the people who push for 5 year olds to get hormonal treatment are a minority of a minority. It's just as bad as assuming everyone at a college is an SJW. I have no idea why you fucks get so worked over something so tiny.
Mental illness is just code word for "I don't like thing". The phrase holds no value. You can label anything that doesn't align with current societal behavior standards as a "mental illness" and is unscientific.
[citation needed]
Again [citation needed], because what I've read is that it's something that starts en utero and the brain develops as if it were the opposite sex's. There is no cure as the entire structure of their brain has developed in a way that's causing the dysphoria. It's like saying "autism is just a chemical imbalance", you just can't develop a pill for it.
Here's a good video on it (by an actual fucking scientist):
youtube.com
Jaxon Moore
They're weirdly present online. If you frequent places that are at the intersection of tech and anime autism there's often more 'girls' than girls. Weird mesh of communities means there's way more personal contact with trans folks among lurkers than there should be given their prevalence in the population. I'm actually kind of fond of some of the trans programmers in a weird like… I wouldn't bang them but I'd totally be their adoptive big brother kind of way. But there's some bad blood too, a few prominent trans in tech folks like lovecruft really sold out and fucked over some of their friends. So there's a question of loyalty. Some people like Rutkowska seem pretty solid but are also pretty hardcore into some sjw stuff and I'm not sure if they'd side with the other weirdo tech folks or the sjw's if they were forced to choose. Someone like manning too, I quite like even with all her fucking emoji spam but I think some of their sjw friends are snakes. Real mixed bag.
They're for sure mentally ill though, real fucked in the head. It's just I'm not about to start judging for weird sexual and lifestyle preferences. I'm plenty fucked up myself.
Jayden Roberts
There's always Bunkerchan :^)
Tyler Reed
Jeremiah Gonzalez
I disagree with you partially, we should allow trans men, while not allowing trans women or non-binary special snowflakes. Gender dysphoria is a valid condition but very rare. Problem is there are transtrenders pretending they have dysphoria to gain social capital and SJW oppression points. These transtrenders are 99% of the time non-binaries or trans women, and they happen to be very narcissistic, pursuing the benefits of being a female (social capital, affirmative action, access to women's spaces) while not dealing with the negative consequences (physical weakness, periods). It's completely understandable why radical feminists hate trans women, they are a fucking plague. Every trans man I met has been better though and wasn't so public about their trans status, transitioning for legitimate reasons.
Zachary Torres
He looks like every student government nerd ever.
David Ramirez
Tankie twitter doesn't do idpol for the most part. If you're somewhat selective, you can get a really strong feed full of internationalism and Marxism-Leninism. However, there are a lot of orbiting communities of idpol wreckers who have never read a page of Marx in their lives, but still call themselves communists.
Carson Flores
Tankie-isms tend to scare liberal hangers-on off. You are more likely to find unironic idpolers in anarchist circles for this reason. Pic very much related.
Alexander Cox
reported for imperialism
Nathan Carter
Carson Martin
A big one (aside from muh billions) is that there was unfortunately repression of gays in the USSR and some other socialist states. All the ☭TANKIE☭s I've found basically say this was a mistake, and they point to the success of gay and trans rights in Cuba and the DDR, but it still gives idpolers an easy out and a way to bitch and scream about Marxism-Leninism. A good sign someone is a wrecker is that they refuse to support countries and armies that are literally preventing mass enslavement and genocide, just because they don't have gay marriage or some shit.
Dominic Mitchell
he wasn't agreeing with the pic I think.
Jacob Howard
This. I was only showing how liberals tend to shy away from ☭TANKIE☭ stuff because it offends their manufactured bourg sensibilities. Thus why they are unlikely to infiltrate those kinds of groups.
Ethan Rogers
Wtf is this non-materialist bullshit.
Charles Wright
offline, organized in parties
similar to crying "spook" dismissively it's usually done by people that don't even understand what it means, it's substitute for comprehending dialectic materialism
Isaac Myers
Now She bans you for not uncrittically supporting Hitler in his fight against USSR and RFB.
Cooper Cox
Jack Morales
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