Why is Kurd,Palestinian...

Why is Kurd,Palestinian,Tibetan and Black Nationalism seen ok/supported by normies and most leftists but European nationalism isnt?

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Because it's that type of nationalism exist under the premise of national liberation.

dunno what you mean, most european normies are fairly nationalist, certainly no less than they sympathise with palestinians and tibetans.
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Because the former is a struggle for liberation against imperialist aggression, while the latter is an exclusionary worldview where the so-called national interest is asserted to the detriment of everyone else. Though the former can sometimes eventually morph into the later, like Zionism — which originated as an anti-imperialist struggle against the British but eventually turned into an imperialism of its own.

This. And even then our support is critical at times because there are reactionary and ethno-nationalist elements present in these national liberation struggles.

leftists hate themselves.

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I don't know where you get that the supported by normies from, most American normies do not support Palestinian nationalism in the slightest

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What are you doing here?

user, Ted was talking about libs there, most of his analysis fits with marxian thought.

because most lefties don't realise all nationalism is bourgeois

Kurds, Palestinians and Tibetians are oppressed and stateless minorities. Most white people are not.

This is true, but that doesn't mean anti-colonialist rebellions against military occupation are the same as fascist death squads making way for lebensraum.

So if kurds, palestinians and tibetians suddenly have state of their own nationalism becomes a bad thing? Tell me how this insane logic of yours works.

Yes, because their nationalist movements stop being movements for national liberation once they acquire thier own independent states.

But the aim shouldn't be for every group of people to have their own state, but rather that no one has a state

I am pro Palestinians in their struggle against oppression, but not pro the state of Palestine, that would just change one of form of opression for another.

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Fuck tibet btw

Tibet should be left alone in its splendid isolation, there nothing there expect some peaceful, harmless monks and bunch of feudal-like villages

We don't support Kurdish or Tibetan nationalism.

Not everyone on this board is a ☭TANKIE☭

It’s just our fucking coat of arms painted red and yellow.

Normie definitely don't support black nationalism (except maybe black normies) and the rest of those get very passive support at best.

So nationalism is good until it achieves its objectives, at which point it's bad? Really makes you think.

They're all spooky.
I support the idea of abolishing race in general.
no no, not single race hegemony where everyone has the same genetics, the kind of abolishing race where it stops mattering to people and thus becomes a useless concept beyond genetic study etc

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