>Further, Fascism holds women in very high regard. Women are the carriers of new life. They are expected to be educated, worldly, and well read. Women are encouraged to pursue their interests and have a career but only if a career won’t interfere with their family’s needs; family comes first, always.
>> “But Fascism Entails a Dictator, and Dictatorships Are the Most Statist!”
The degeneration of a man, both physically, and mentally.
Jason Wilson
This is probably one of the stupidest things about the right. For all their bitching about "muh Western Values" they seem to hate literally every uniquely western concept. Anything stemming from the enlightenment is evil to them, which means that their idealized west probably looks a lot more like Saudi Arabia than a civilized country. Egalitarianism, anti-authoritarianism, democracy a long tradition of revolution, agitation and tyrant-killing, this is the shit that makes the West what it is, and they despise all of it. All they want is tribalism and the mindless perpetuation of tradition for its own sake, which is something that literally every shit smeared savage in the world had before the 18th century. They claim to be standing up for western values and yet I cant think of a single uniquely western ideal that they support.
This guy also wrote a book extolling on his libertarian-fascist hybrid political philosophy and got Hans-Hermann Hoppe (the "physical removal" guy who lives in Turkey) of the Von Mises Institute to write the foreward.
Eventually and before publication, the author – Chase Rachels – sent the book cover to the Von Mises Institute, which freaked out because… take a look for yourself. The Institute then quickly published the forward on their website with all the references to Rachels removed so it'd look like a generic article – i.e. if Rachels went ahead and published the book with the original foreward, it would look like he had plagiarized Hoppe to make it seem like Hoppe endorsed the book.
Of course, Hoppe had endorsed the book, but realized the looming P.R. disaster, tried to cut Rachels off at the pass. (I'm using cowboy terminology I don't know how else to describe it.)
That's fucking amazing. Should we start a campaing to incentivize Ancaps, and just let them do their thing and destroy right wing libertarianism?
Angel Nguyen
I seriously can not understand how people can be against Gulags. Things like this always make me wonder if they are just a very, very forgetful sort.
Nathaniel Russell
Call it for what it is.
Feudalism.
It's just fucking feudalism. This internet monsters share the exact same mindset your average self-interested duke from the middle ages held. "I mustn't pay tax, but those peasants / minorities should. Also, we need a strong monarch / dictator in order to keep "traditions" alive and make sure the country doesn't fall to heresy / fun. This is a totally just system because I benefit the most."
The ultimate irony is that these ancap nerds arent even members of the ruling class, at most they're petty bourg or labour aristocrats whose small businesses will be crushed by McMegacorp or whose jobs will soon be outsourced/automated. At least when nobles were denouncing liberalism they were actually protecting their own interests, but these dipshits actually think that they would be on top in an AnCap society instead of being Zuckerberg's onahole.
Jaxson Lopez
kek, you're absolutely right. the very instant one of these fuckers gets their cushy healthcare coverage revoked because their boss out-ancap'd them, they'll start crying and calling the system "unfair."
Owen Young
I've noticed how some fash are calling themselves "National Capitalists" now too which is basically an indirect admission as to what fascists really are that we all already knew.
Honestly how is this different from Communists (supposedly stateless and without hierarchies) saying that a transition period headed by a dictatorship of the proletariat and a brutal vanguard party is needed to purge the proles out of property, bourgeoise values and propaganda?
Owen Jenkins
It's not. ☭TANKIE☭s are just as retarded.
Matthew Thompson
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Chase Howard
History doesn't move backwards.
Jayden Murphy
how is it any different? nowhere in fascist theory does it say that they will transition into a fully automated stateless classless society. Like user said fascism is not an ultimatum by any means, it is a hopeless and nihilistic appeal to authority.
Asher White
I agree, which is why a society controlled by those who hold more capital without government interference (no kings, states or parties) sounds plausible.
Parker Price
look liberal I am a proud ancap trump supporter I am on so many levels of nuance you couldn't comprehend it
All libertarians realize at one point or another that a state is needed to enforce laissez faire capitalism and protect private property. Libertarians struggle with this contradiction constantly, eventually becoming fascists.
Yeah that just about sums it up. Capitalism and the state arose together; the state being how the bourgeoisie constitutes itself politically. You get rid of one you'll get rid of the other. They want to get rid of it and go back.
One of my favorite anecdotes about Zuck is that he's obsessed with Augustus, cuts his hair like Augustus, and when on his honeymoon in Italy he annoyed his wife by constantly going around and taking pictures of statues of Augustus.
Henry James
They become fascists because they want to "force" libertarianism, they don't want to give the public the option of opting out of a deregulated shithole society they do not support public organisation at all, they will perceive it as a violation of their NAP. Stooges like Alex Jones thinks that antifa protestors should be arrested by daddy Trump, proud libertarian Alex and his private police patrols.
I think one of the anxieties of the present far right is that they want (no, need) to serve as the enforcers of the Trump regime where he strolls out into the Rose Garden wearing a Pinochet outfit, but they can't, because he's a fucking moron with a brain full of worms.
Dylan Clark
I hate libertarians more than fascists. Libertarians are ultra capitalists who want to kill the poor through policy instead of directly. Fuck Ancaps and libertarians, they should get just as much hate.
Yeah. Bizarre, wannabe neo-Roman emperor has more personality to it than bizarre panoptic robot man who eats toast weird. I think he'll even stand sometimes in contrapposto.
Hey, not everybody lives liberal, that's life maintaining the NAP is more important than compromising with my spooks to save children's lives! You support taxes? You want me shot! You are a deranged violent criminal paid off by Soros.
this place should be called /libtardpol/ because it is full of SO MANY LIBTARDS Hey libtards, communism failed and it can never work only on your lilt piece of paper we are not ants you libtard capitalism makes money, ever think about that? Israel is our greatest ally
Yeah, it was a dumb centrist joke about how contentious the issue is and the fact that regardless of what position Rick took it would be too controversial for them to explicitly go there other than to bring up the fact that it's a contentious issue that Rick is opinionated about.
Which is fucking stupid because the US is the only part of the world where Israel is a contentious issue. In Israel they think Israel is good and everywhere else they recognize it as an apartheid state.
Zachary Wilson
I don't support mods or the board owner, but just like being born into a state I have to go along with it or else.
This contradicts Mussolinian Fascism, which was totalitarian, civic nationalist and race blind (at least until Hitler forced his autism on Italy), on literally every level.
Just how fucking delusional are these people?! Right Wing = making random shit up and believing in it. Mental illness.
Well, the latter half is somewhat accurate, but the first four? Perhaps in a bootlicking way, as in "work ethic" and "patience" being read as submitting to the whip without question, and "rationalism" and "integrity" referring to blindly accepting spooks.
Oppression Olympics has been successful, are you really so surprised that right wingers are starting to play the same game?
When you tell libertarians that their ideology is only for white people some will take that on board, there is a direct lineage of alt right figures from libertarian activism.
Aside from the bottom right statement, where is the problem? Swap around libertarian and communism in that Hoppe quote and it's still true. A society can tolerate hedonism and homosexuality but can't run off it.
Ryder Gomez
rick and morty is bad :^) >>>/reddit/
Robert Turner
you leftists are mad because an ancap guy said something stupid? geez
Sebastian Green
whats wrong with putting your Race and Family and Nation first? Its better than putting statist needs first…
Ethan Rodriguez
Nothing, you always should Nothing wrong with loving it, shouldn't be ahead of community or family tho So an italian american, who doesn't peak italian, who never have been to Italy, who doesn't eat italian, who doesn't have nothing in common with italians except genes has the priority over a half slav/asian/whatever child who was born in italy, speaks italian, has italian friend, loves italy, knows everything about italy, eats italian and is italian in everything but genes?
I took italy as an example but you could say it of virtually country on earth
Daniel Green
I dunno, ask Italian fascists who placed the state over everything, contrary to everything the retarded article has said.
fascism is bad not because it's "too statist" or "less freedomer", fascism is bad because it's the ultimate, most violent form of capitalism
But if they are culturally italian, if they are were born there, they don't even fucking speak the language of their parents, how can they belong in those places? So you are saying that an am*rican belongs to that country opposed to these guys? That's my objection, the other objection would be that from a race point of view Putin has more in common with Ivan who can't afford a dentist than another oligaric
Chase Jones
>THE OBFUSCATION AND PERVERSION OF THE CONCEPT OF FASCISM >PERVERSION OF THE CONCEPT OF FASCISM AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thomas Fisher
this boils it down to the most simple level, you fucks dont care. It doesn't matter if the person has virtually no chance of assimilating into """thier homeland""" because at the end of the day its always "well I dont have to move, you move" faggot fashies need to be curbstomped
Julian Gray
How come the Muslims are getting hanged there? I'm sure they'd agree with a lot of positions taken by Wahabists
I mean these guys are always posting helicopter physical removal memes and idolizing Pinochet, I don't think it was 100% ironic. Pinochet after all was a staunch capitalist and learned from Milton Friedman, one of the godfathers of neoliberal scumbaggery.
Lucas Edwards
You say that like rightists have any ideological consistency beyond "People i don't like, go away!"
Camden Long
So because you're in a state of diaspora others should abandon their roots?
Acts Italian, is culturally Italian, but not Italian.
You and that hypothetical Italian are edge cases, how big does a puddle have to be before it gets called a lake? It's not defined but everyone knows the difference the vast majority of the time.
Genes are important, we are finding out that nature is playing just as, if not larger role than nurture. I want a cohesive enough society to properly enact beneficial policies.
Depends on the ideology, Anarcho Capitalism is perfectly consistent, it's just built off retarded axioms.
more and more libertarians are realizing that the end result of their ideology is death, terror, neofeudalism and tyranny. some accept it as desirable, to deal with the cognitive dissonance.
and tbh that's a good thing! retards like Hoppe or the author of that article are doing far more to discredit libertarianism and capitalism in general than milquetoast dudeweed mainstream libertarians. we should spread their retardation and try to make more and more libertards come out as fascists until they become universally hated.
next time you see a libertarian, do not engage them from a leftist standpoint but recommend them to read some neoreactionary drivel.
Dylan Flores
You want to turn more libertarians into nazis? I don't get it.
Henry Powell
polarization of the enemy strengthens them you retard
okay libtard, listen up and listen close you do NOT have the right to steal my income taxation is slavery to the state You care about black slaves even though that happened like a 1000 years ago, but you don't care about white slavery YES, these are facts. whites pay more into the government than any other group I hope you are understanding this, liberal Hillary Clinton wanted more white slavery god-emperor is cutting taxes for people, he is dismantling slavery yet you libshits do not applaud him because he is a white straight male but that's what you want anyway isn't it? to put us white men in prisons and make us work to death moral relativism is the atheist nihilism which creates communism communism is ultimate slavery, okay?
It discredits their beliefs in the mainstream. Libertarianism and ancap are considered just like "slightly right" or some shit and somewhat acceptable and the mainstream doesn't acknowledge how destructive these ideologies are (primarily because it's unregulated capitalism and they'd benefit).
However, if these outspoken libertarians become more honest about what it entails and reveal their hypocrisies and close ties with fascism, it will show people the truth.
Luke Rogers
While I like the principle, I have to agree with , but in a less eloquent manner. While making fascists, neo-nazis and libertarians nigh indistinguishable would cause most to be disgusted at them and reject their politics, it make those fringe groups united and cohesive. Many times in history, the victor wasn't the the bravest, the kindest or the smartest, but the one thet strongest.
I say that instead we should help the "lolberts" kick out the nazis from the libertarian ranks, and if possible convince liberals that they are not in fact part of the left wing, leaving the right in utter chaos while the left wing would be exclusive to anarchists and socialists which, although have their many differences, have worked together multiple times.
Or you increase the amount of nazis to the point where the Overton window shifts. Libertarians make arguments for imaginary things like workable polylaw with DROs, they have been, and always will be sidelined. Nazi's can make real arguments if they stick to working class issues, imagine a competent Richard Spencer. I don't think you've thought this through.
Alexander Torres
You can project until your heart is content, dude, but I posted it simply because this shit is hilarious.
You need a modding vanguard to physically remove the wreckers and fascists.
Landon Johnson
The irony is that these people dont even understand what fascism is, or how its different from Nazism. Generic fascism definitely doesnt care about race, in fact Mussolini explicitly says that a nation is based on cultural, not racial factors. You could theoretically have a fascist state in the US that was inclusive of minorities.
Christopher Hall
Jesus christ how Horrific.
Grayson Rodriguez
Jesus fuck no get that disease of an ideology out of my view , I swear everyday I tell myself that is Musso lived till our days he would probably put Neo-Liberalism back on the "1st spot" in the list of enemies .
Italian fascism wasn't as racist as Nazism but it was still pretty racist and was from the beginning. This "culture" business is a smokescreen.
Andrew Murphy
It had to happen eventually
Nolan Reed
As pathetic and funny as it is, it's kind of brilliant. Lolberts' pretense of rationality and human dignity has never gotten them anywhere because most people can tell how inherently stupid and incoherent their ideology is. Normies can tell when someone else assumes they are an idiot, and the ruling class has no use for them if they are unsympathetic.
Instead, this one chose to embrace the autism and make it into a defense mechanism. He is so shameless about his doublethink that trying to refute it is pointless. No one with a brain will waste time and energy trying to argue with someone that cannot be reasoned with. He isn't really trying to change anyone's mind, he is appealing to people that don't care if what they believe is objectively nonsensical. It works because lolbert ideology is founded on narcissism: if it feels right, it is true, because they are never wrong. Rejecting their rational self-interest makes them ideal as useful idiots because they do not understand the consequences of their actions.
Think about it. The Internet isn't real life, so they are mostly protected from the violence and public humiliation they would otherwise receive. Making sense is not their goal, so they cannot be debated. If we ignore them, they will spin this into an admission of wrongness, and stooping to their level is self-defeating. All we can do is present their horseshit as self-evident, which does nothing to dissuade emotionally immature people from taking their bait.
This, comrades, is not just one lolbert going off the deep end. It marks the evolution of a shitty ideology into an actual cult.
ngl I think antifa is what pushes idealistic ancaps to fascism. Because it forces them to acknowledge what happens when people don't want to go along with their laissez fair bullshit.
Jaxson Smith
In a way yes. I've already started studying the Dark Enlightment, I'm feeling that'll be the next alt right.
Parker Fisher
Dork Enlightenment doesn't aim to be popular, it's perfectly content to suck itself off in private.
Lucas Brown
you spelled reactionary wrong
Nathaniel Morgan
had one tell me the other day that democracy was the antithesis of freedom and that true freedom is unregulated capitalism and also trespassing == rape
Ian Baker
anti statist putting the nation first
are you literally fucking retarded?
James Wright
history books nigga read them
Nathan Scott
anarcho communism is about getting state and corporate boots off our necks
anarcho capitalism is trading the boot of the stte on your neck for the boot of corporations on your neck.
like lets say the state was abolished tomorrow, you really think that large multinational corporations with profits larger than some nation's GDP wouldn't fill the power vacuum?
Wyatt Jackson
Can we stop pretending that we know better and so we can relax? Unless you don't mind the end of the world as long as you die with the peace of mind that you were right all along!
Looking at the present we can see that we're closer to a catastrophe than any sort of alternative to capitalism, so take the heads of your assess and get to work.
Jonathan Johnson
Jim Profit is pretty anti imperialist actually, he's Unruhe's brother after all
