What does Zig Forums think of kibbutz?

What does Zig Forums think of kibbutz?
"A kibbutz (Hebrew: קיבוץ, קִבּוּץ‎‎, plural kibbutzim) is a type of farming settlement in modern Israel. In a kibbutz, everyone shares the work that is traditionally based on agriculture. The kibbutz is a form of communal living that combines socialism and Zionism. The word means "gathering" or "clustering"."

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Thats like combining orange juice and lead

Utopian faggots who manage to be more utopian and faggoty than usual.

Kibbutz are really sucessfull in Israel. Why the hostility?

Some of the isolated ones are ok and act as an interesting case study for observing certain aspects of communal life and communal raising. Most though are unfortunately just full blown zionists who's entire point is to raise children to join the military.

Fuck off Zig Forums

There's nothing wrong with Zionism(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Out of all your posts spurdo, this is by far your one of your worst ones.

Okay okay, I'll admit it…
The only thing wrong with Zionism is the sacrifice of interaction for preservation.

Did they allow Palestinians in their kibbutzes (kibbutzim?) or were they ethno-communes?

Yes they are but they're no longer what they were. Basically every major Kibbutz either fell apart due to people leaving so they could marry outside the Kibbutz or the people deciding to hire people from outside. So hiring people for a wage so they can exploit that worker, that sounds exactly like a company to me. In the end it was an interesting piece of history but it either dissolved or became massive companies that exploit non-Kibbutz workers for profit.


We're meant to be left wing here buddy an ideology that promotes the cause of a single race of people at the detriment of the another isn't welcome.


Most Kibbutz were basically closed communities that didn't even allow marriage outside of the commune. So I hazard a guess they mostly ended up being ethno-communes.

Zionism is more complex than just that it's justifiable unlike other forms of ethno centrism.

Justifiable in what way? Because of the Holocaust? Because of their treatment during the Diaspora? Well shit if it's because of that then you would support Celtic nationalism, Black nationalism, and Greek nationalism. No ethno-centric ideology can co-exist with far left politics otherwise it begins to function like Italian Fascism.

you shitposters make me wanna go to Zig Forums

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Kibbutz movement was great and early Israel had some good ideas which shouldn't be confused with their many bad ones.

Chomsky on kibbutz:


Sounds like a brainwashing cult to breed obedient soldiers.

I would support them if they did this but somewhere like California, or Australia, where there wasn't already a large indigenous population…

hmmmmmmmm

you realize that flags are not locked to one person? right?

fucking idiots, i swear

Good idea, bad execution.

why is israel so fucking fash, man

This is how they've always been, pic related is literally falangist

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Zig Forums consistently endorses hardline zionists just because they're anti-immigrant
neck yourself

Reminder that Bernie Sanders actually travelled to Israel and volunteered at a kibbutz for a few months. And he supports the state of Israel. And he's against BDS

1st world politics never change

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I like the socialism part but I dont like the zionism part or the "kill the subhuman palistinians and take their land" part.

sauce?

There is one poster here who shitposts primarily with the spurdo flag, lurk more.

It's shit, and people who support the Kurds unconditionally need to learn about how many leftists supported Israel and helped enable an imperialistic foreign policy because of that Utopian crap.

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kibbutzim is nothing but social imperialism with a settler-colonialist bent. it s like the wet dream of first world "socialists"

Zig Forums wants Tel Aviv nuked and Israel wiped off the map
t. Zig Forums user

Kurds have been living in the Middle East for millenia though. Jewish immigrants to Palestine, on the other hand, were mostly settler colonialists.

Trump, Farage and Wilders come to mind.


What Zig Forums wants doesn't matter. What matters is that they've put their tiny bit of political capital (still larger than ours) behind neoliberal zionists just because they're anti-immigrant.

Well the kibbutzim gave us Jon Lansman who is gave us Corbyn so they aren't all that bad.

Socialism is an economic system, nationalism is a political ideology. How are they incompatible?

Why do so many people who oppose Zionism for it’s alleged chauvinism and militarism also support Baathist dictators like Assad?

Both Jews and Kurds are indigenous peoples of the Middle East.

One supports the spreading of US influence and causes wars against regimes that don't fall in line behind the US hegemony

And why is American hegemony any worse than, for example, Chinese hegemony or Russian hegemony?

I guess if China or Russia had the strength they might have done the same the US is doing now
But that's a "what if" scenario
Currently we only have the US forcing everything into submission, starting wars to prop up their military industry and similar shit

Unlike Russia, which definitely doesn’t try to force other countries into submission and which definitely doesn’t start wars to prop up it’s military industry. Thanks, I almost forgot that only Western countries can be imperialist because reasons.

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