Is he right?

Is he right?

Is he wrong?

Why?

Tankies are absolutely freaking out at him in the comments section.

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Of course he is wrong, ever heard about the split between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks? Jesus Christ

He's wrong. D.SA is an arm of the democratic party whereas the pre-WWI socialist party of Debs, whatever its faults, was an actual socialist party. Lenin was also Deleonboo and Deleon would have turned over in his grave at the kind of garbage D.SAers spew.

lel, this is peak socdem

more of a footstool

He's not only wrong. He's delusional. He's someone who hasn't read anything written by Lenin. He's using social media correctly at least, spouting off wrong opinions on things he knows nothing about.

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Can't have the All-Union Communist party without the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party first. But boy, shit would go down.

Strong contender for ideology of the week award here

Dead people died so we could come up with new ideas.

Or stay in 1903 and keep losing.

This is what manipulative socdem book clubs do to you by giving you selective texts, parts of texts, or others TL;DR of texts.

I can cut together for you a 50 pages long quotes+my explanations of a "politically correct" Lenin in just a few days.

There are more usable "ideas" (as if these weren't molded by and reflected upon actual practice, lel) in Lenin's life work than in a few dozen trendy theoreticians (like Gramsci or Kropotkin) combined. The man was the most important politician and critical thinker of the 20th century. If you don't read Lenin regardless of your personal creed, you are missing out

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What? The split happened because of a conflict with the editorial board of the Iskra and a (temporary) disagreement regarding the requirements of membership.

oh fuck off with your bait

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An average normie red liberal from the Democrat Cops of America is infinitely more intelligent than Lenin

The point is he would have joined.

Socialists parties linked to the Second International had, everywhere, since their very inception, conservative elements. Read Engels' commentaries on the early international congresses.

I can actually say, based on what I know about the Second International and their parties, that the "Right" of the Democrat Cops of America is much further to the left of the "Right" in any in those parties.

Zig Forums, where bringing entry-level knowledge of leftist history is "bait"

The Democrat Cops of America is the last true leftist party that’s around anymore in this country.

Can you guys explain why?

PSL

Wow. Kill yourself you stupid liberal

Why would a revolutionary even consider a zionist who wants a bit of social democracy and who supported the Clinton's bombings in Yugoslavia?

No, Lenin was a communist.

Somebody like Parenti is more in line with Lenin: completely marginalized nowadays.

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I think everyone on leftypol should vote for the demsoc if you are given a choice between a demsoc or a neolibcontard.

That being said demo socs would be seen as right wing in the soviet union.

pack it up, boys

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Lenin supported people like reverend Tikhvinsky, a member of the church and a monarchist, he wasn't exactly picky about who the Bolsheviks had to ally themselves with in electoral politics. Besides that, wanting "a bit of social democracy" can't be approached as an abstraction, but placed in its relative historical terms, otherwise you can dismiss Lenin for wanting "a bit of humane capitalism in the agrarian sector" with his proposed reforms.

Everyone who disagrees with me is a liberal (or a revisionist, or an imperialist, or an anarkiddie, or a fascist, or bourgeois)

And do Sanders and the Democrat Cops of America propose working with capitalists? Assuming your answer will be yes, explain how.

Also I'm not a socdem.

Don't both cooperate with the DNC?

there's a difference in a temporary alliance and "being in the Democrat Cops of America"

wew


yeah… ok

Lenin was the leader of Russian Social Democratic Labour Party.

And?

Technically he was a social democrat.

That was before there really was a distinction between communism and social democracy. Social democracy before the split just meant (revolutionary or reformist) socialism/communism. The modern conception of social democracy (a capitalist society with a welfare state) came later.

2nd International parties and members pretty much universally identified themselves as social-democrats back then. It's only with the war and the revolution that the distinction is made between is revolutionary and reformist wings as they split into different groups, who become then known as Communists and Social-Democrats.

I'm not sure if he would vote for Bernie, but his political involvement before 1905 was VERY Democrat Cops of America

How? Just because some Democrat Cops of America-endorsed people run for office as democrats?

Social democrats of that day weren't tech industry millionaires who wanted the capitalist porkies in the state to "do more welfare and collect more taxes and stuff".

Are you suggesting the Democrat Cops of America is not filled with communists?

If Karl Marx was alive today he would be labeled a tinfoil conspiracyfag

no, he wouldn't.

I don't think Lenin would've been content with simply being a lowkey member of a capitalist party.

Historical materialism is antithetical to conspiracy theories. I can't see how even the dumbest anticommunist could pretend otherwise.