Well, it's just happened! And here people is not even noticing! What's wrong with you, Zig Forums?!?!?!
Also, wtf is with all these grown men who happen to be heads of state holding hands? First J V P I T E R Macroléon and The Donald, now KimMoon…
Hidden bonus: one of the file names is literally "dafac".
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An OTP to surpass metal gear.
I ship it
We noticed, have you been to the news thread?
This happened only in the DMZ though, right?
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Fuck this, don't tell me Kim is surrendering to these puppets. Something has to be up his sleeve.
Don't worry America is going to declare war on both of them.
Moon doesn't want Korea to be America's puppet. The only chance he has of that beyond declaring war on America is or submitting to China is to make peace with the North. A unified Korea would be an extraordinarily powerful country, it would probably blow the cuckdom of Japan out of the water.
Don't sweat it Kim is gonna outsmart all of those old fucks
There is nothing to do or outsmart besides giving up his nuclear weapons and recognizing South Korea as an independent country. At this point America will settle for that since it would let them completely remove themselves from Korea's foreign affairs.
Every other discussion about Korea is largely worthless at this point. America's main concern at the start of the Armistice was NK recognizing SK but now it that and also nuclear weapons. America's military wants to spend the money elsewhere specifically Taiwan and the Philippines. At this point Korea to America is a conflict that has long overstayed it's welcome so they're willing to negotiate if their basic concerns are met.
Which is where Trump's attempt to kill the Iran nuclear agreement creates problems because that agreement is more or less the same thing but in regards to Iran. So if that agreement drops dead Kim won't have any reason to trust America in the first place.
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guys we can't let Trump get his hands on the nuclear button
How would a unified Korea function? I assume the NK government would lose it's power.
he really needs to do some cardio and lay off the carbs
The first step would be a bi-national confederation with two domestic policies and one foreign policy. The catch is that NK will want an equal share of decision-making despite the smaller population… and the WPK will vote as a single bloc.
it wouldn't, at least not if they are integrated too hastily
as sick as it sounds, the best way is to keep treating the North as an open air concentration camp and gradually get their economy and infrastracture going. After a generation or two, the people might have acclimatized to the new situation, not only in economically, but also socially and culturally.
The discrepancy between the countries is ridiculous. It's worse than the difference between Eastern and Western Germany, like orders of magnitude worse. And yet, even in Germany you can still see the fallout from hatily trying to integrate the underdeveloped east. Being anything near as insensitive in Korea would be utterly disastrous for everyone involved.
I hope North Korea hurries up and gets swallowed by the ROK.
We'll be able to see the true potential of Korea then. Can they be as big as Japan?
Funny way of saying "brutally raped by capital"
kim has gone nazbol.
That's interesting way to solve toilet paper shortage
south korea will become juche
what is wrong with korea becoming nationalist koreans.
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you must not be watching the live stream kim has gone full Not Socialist.
What's this from?
LEFTY POL ON SUICIDE WATCH!
does this sound realistic to you? why does everyone not realize what's actually happening
seriously, even leftypol is asleep on this
WAKE THE FUCK UP
Someone on plebbit was saying the conservatives in RoK hate Moon because his family used to support Kim Il Sung. No idea how credible that is though, it's plebbit.
moon is considered liberal. The lady before him was conservative and was the daugther of the former dicator of south korea. She got impeached because she was taking advice from a south korean wizard.
this sounds incredibly unlikely
I knew about Park and the wizard already. Any thoughts on Moon secretly being Juche Gang?
from what I could gather, Moon is still a bigboy liberal, he's just not choking on US dick 24/7.
he has kim his brother korean with nukes.
this is fucking based not gonna lie
how does lefypol feels that korea has gone nat-soc.
What happened?
fuck the us
Capitalism just won again, lefty faggots.
How does it feel to be such losers.
That American propagandists are trying to twist this into a victory for them isn't lost on me, though.
kim talked about brothers blood and a nationalist korea with north and south and they are opening with bussiness cooperation
Zig Forums is invading this thread and they think Trump caused this (and he did, inadvertently by being such a massive cunt and jingoist that he pushed South Korea into peace agreements with the DPRK to avoid war against the will of the US, which they're now playing as a totally intentional victory for Burgerland and Trump)
not capitalism they are nationalizing business under the two states not a international business.
This was a US lead war. The US didn't want peace. The US was so retarded and jingoistic that it pushed South Korea into to talks to avoid war.
Sure is Zig Forumsyp in here.
Anyway, some sane analysis. The end goal for the WPK (Workers Party of Korea) is and has always been the reunification of Korea under their leadership, together with building socialism. There have been no internal or external developments that would make the party change course in this. The accelerated development of a nuclear deterrent on the other hand likely was triggered by the ramping up of US aggression, and now that it is completed have pretty much neutralized the threat of a US led invasion and regime change. Free from the threat of regime change, the DPRK could then go on and launch a charm offensive in the South.
The place where actual changes have been happening, however, is the South. On the one hand, the conservative political faction, heirs to the military puppet regime (literally, the daughter of one of the dictator generals was the president for the conservative bloc), have been discredited by a wave of scandals, culminating in the abdication of the president. She is now replaced by a more progressive one, who has (within the bounds permitted by the puppet deep state) always been for a more conciliatory stance towards the DPRK. In the background of all this is the nationalist undercurrent, which is not South Korean nationalist, but All Korean nationalist; nationalists in the South actually also want a reunification of Korea, which could then chart a course independent from the Japanese, Chinese and Americans.
The pro-reconciliation block in the South moreover got a huge shot in the arm because of the very erratic messaging coming from the Trump administration. There was the whole fracas about the deployment of missile defenses in Korea. More important however was the admission by important figures in the Republican party that they would rather fight a (nuclear) war with the DPRK and risk the annihilation of South Korea now, than have to deal with a DPRK that can hit the US mainland later. I doubt this went over well with the South Koreans. They now realize that they have to look out for themselves, which is why the initiative for the detente came from them, not the US.
The likely outcome is not a sudden reunification, but moves towards a de-escalation and setting the stage for some kind of reintegration of both countries into perhaps a confederal framework decades down the road. Expect something like regular meetings, a formal peace, and the establishment of some economic and cultural ties (re-opening the special economic zones etc.).
Now that the DPRK doesn't have any physical enemy, she can put all her effort against the global bourgeoisie. How do you feel, leftypol?
So the alt-history the kids made up in Goodbye Lenin happened except in Korea?
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Did this actually happen?
FFUCCCKKK
Let's fucking hope so.
This loose cannon will fuck it all up:
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This. SK has a growing nationalist movement (that is aokay with the North) and also a rising leftwing trade unionist movement (which is fighting GM atm). Unification with NK, even if it takes a decade will see them both better off. This is not the death of socialism in Korea, this is its rebirth.
He can't though, the most he dicks around the more SK will push for peace and reunification.
Rightists will be pissed about this.
WHY ARE THEY IN A HOOLAHOOP?!
Trump helped end the Korean war and got north korea to denuclearize and basically liberals, the media, neocons, the democratic party, are fucking stupid.
inb4 "nuh uh, he didnt do anything"
(JANUARY) South Korea’s President Moon Credits Trump for North Korea Talks
“I am giving a lot of credit to President Trump…”
“I am expressing my gratitude.”
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I bet you think Regan was responsible from bringing down the Berlin Wall too.
The United States didn't want peace, you retard.
Well you're right: his idiocy showed SK that the US cannot be trusted.
I have just given you direct actual evidence of the south korean president giving trump credit for this.
You can choose to continue to live in your fantasy land i guess
Wow he payed lip service to the most powerful country on earth, big shock.
Also that fucking reddit spacing.
Yeah, the fact that the SK president talked up the president of the US (largely their sponsor and the real signatory of the armistice) totally undoes the fact that SK went behind the wishes of the United States to broker this peace deal.
some more evidence of trump getting credit
who cares
My mommy says I'm handsome.
Trump literally achieved something previous "competent" presidents never did or could and that rocks your fucking world. Its okay to admit it.
Honestly forgot he was still alive, and I'm a britbong.
Regardless if your only proof is words, not the actual fucking conditions that brought this around, then you're a clear cretin.
Please, tell us one thing he did that wasn't being a fucking idiot?
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Because previous presidents didn't want this outcome.
What part of "the United States didn't want peace" are you failing to understand?
This is the most Orwellian propaganda coming out of the United States I've seen, well, at least this month, and you're falling for it hook, line and sinker.
What can't he fuck up?
In your dreams, Drumpfgoy. If anything he pushes South Korea away from the US, allowing the DPRK to seize the initiative with a diplomatic offensive.
Talk is cheap. He knows just how easy it is to placate the orange pissboy.
yes, he achieved to empower one of the biggest threats for US imperialism. I always knew why I critically supported Trump before elections, and why I always say that trump is for person like me* the best president USA could have
*me - as person which do not live in USA
well i guess libs and the left will retreat further into fantasy and cognitive dissonance.
Trump could cure cancer and you would be mad at him.
What?
show me one person in thread which is "mad at trump"
Liberal journalists on suicide watch.
He thinks Trump is responsible for reunification, somehow.
The unification is near comrades
Kim agreed to denuclearize, apparently - the fucktard.
A liberal retard just told me NK "lost" their nukes, is this true NK bros? Sounds like american press damage control.
My body is ready.
Tbh I couldn't be more happy to see it. I really hope that Korea will be reunited in coming years.
It's surprising just how jolly Kim's projected image is. His father was always pictured in a very dour way, but Kim Jong Un is always smiling and cordial. Even during the meeting at the border, the way he invited the South Korean leader to step over the border into the DPRK for a second was downright adorable.
They’re going to make so many wonderful children
Kim will gaze with pride at that photo of him with a sitting US president as he tells Moon, on that newly set up hotline, that he'll continue his nuclear program and there isn't a fucking thing South Korea can do about it.
To my knowledge, the DPRK has only agreed to allow nuclear inspectors in, they haven't agreed to get rid of their already existing arsenal.
NK has agreed to stop testing nukes and shut down the nuclear test facility since they're confident that their technology is matured enough
6 tests is about standard as well to be established as a nuclear power
That paper is outdated. North Korean economy has been growing from 2010-2018. 2016 it had a higher growth rate than South Korea.
This, all I have heard is an end to the programme, not destruction of existing nukes.
Liberal claims were: "NK lost their nukes forever, they blew up so Kim surrendered". A quick assesment of this is that's an incredibly stupid thing to believe, since even if NK physical missiles get btfo they still have their manufacturing pipelines, previous research and educated experts intact.
I pressured him for evidence and he tried to weasel out so I guess of course he was making shit up out of american jingoism.
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NK is going to devolve into a Marxist Capitalist liberal society at best and become nationalist too, it'll merge back with the South and denuclearize or worse keep the nukes so they can help the US fuck over the next boogyeman.
No matter what happens it won't end well.
That western university and that one basketball player were bad influences.
NK was never capitalist: under Japan is was a peasant economy.
