Red Guard Kansas BTFO Anarchists

Holy shit they are going all out:

kcmlm.wordpress.com/2018/03/07/a-critique-of-the-kc-anarchist-milieu

Opinions? It's a good read, except this part comes over as a LARPy:

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Other urls found in this thread:

moufawad-paul.blogspot.com/2010/11/j-sakais-settlers-meta-review.html
medium.com/@BlackRedGuard/why-do-people-continue-to-take-the-us-red-guards-seriously-do-you-even-know-who-these-people-are-ab0040539030
massproletariat.info/writings/2018-02-20-once_again_rga.html
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/nov/28/cleveland-anarchist-bomb-plot-fbi
ruralpeople.atspace.org/
marketwatch.com/story/sprouts-farmers-markets-stock-plunges-after-same-store-sales-miss-lowered-guidance-2018-05-03
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist–Leninist_Party_of_the_Netherlands
pastebin.com/FBRF3VhG
espressostalinist.com/the-real-stalin-series/gulag/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

no shit

The following are true to 90% of self-proclaimed radicals regardless of creed:

This comes off as an empty rhetoric from 1960's politburo:

Oooh, boi. Football hooliganism is serious business, y'all.

What the fuck am I reading?

lol

How the fuck do you smash a symptom?


3larpy5me

Lenin is rolling in his… nevermind.

Either go to India and join the Maoist guerrilla troops or study military theory. This is just ultra larping.

The working class won't think of you as a martyr if you stupidly get killed in one of these clashes, ffs.

lol

NOBODY CARES

Correlation does not imply causation.

Delusional.

>the universal laws of dialectical and historical materialism

I bet they made up this term to counter the "class reductionist" meme.

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kek

kek

So next time when you are doing your militant anti-rape campaign and there's a parallel but unrelated demo somewhere you are going to fuck em' up?

There's so many things wrong with this.

they're referring to intersectionality

So… they are criticizing idpol and pomo while being neck deep in it?

black workers on average have it worse than white workers though, this is an objective fact

I'm not denying that. I'm just questioning its political relevance to Marxists. You could say the same about Mexicans, women, gays, etc. and then you are back in idpol land where particularism and oppression Olympics trump class struggle.

You wear the Lenin hat yet you don't recognize attacking at capitalism's weakest links

if you fail to incorporate the reality of America's grim racial and settler colonial system of capital into your praxis you've already lost. You can't ignore the national things like indigenous rights, the chicano national question, or the african national quetion because they intertwine themselves with class relations. There's a reason the "white" proletariat as a whole has rejected class consciousness, and that reason is both material and structural.

Your exact phrasing was
which is one of capitalism's strongest links: pitting men against women, whites against blacks, natives against immigrants on false lines. Jealousy vs. fear of the oppressed. HENCE this stupid "dually oppressed" shit.

These inequalities addressed politically through Marxist lenses lead to the only feasible unity that could overcome this. The way in which one addresses these things makes the matter either the weakest or the strongest link.

fuck off

nud an argument

Yes this conflict upholds the bourgeoisie, and you're not looking at it through a scientific lense like what Marx would do, you're being dogmatic and unscientific.

You forgot your false-flag.

Read settlers

troll harder

moufawad-paul.blogspot.com/2010/11/j-sakais-settlers-meta-review.html

Thanks Leninhat, you are a true comrade.

/thread

I lost my sides at the "universal laws" of dialectical materialism tbh.

American "Red Guards" centered around Red Guard Austin are a fucking joke. They showed up armed to a protest, allowed the police to disarm them, then didnt know how to clear their own fucking guns and had to have the cops show them how. They recently showed up to an anti-gentrification protest and, as white suburbanites who have absolutely no presence in the community, waved rifles around in masks and yelled at old black people who dont want to be evicted about how they were liberals. I dont use the term lightly and they are fucking LARPers, they do nothing to win the allegiance of the communities they act in, just show up armed and in costume and expect people to see them as proletarian heroes, not to mention they slash the tires and send threatening messages to other leftist groups they accuse of revisionism and liberalism, fucking PSL among them. This is in Austin, St. Louis and Kansas City right now. I would not be surprised in the least if they were a COINTELPRO job to attract disenfranchised leftists to some #RealRevolutionaryFront where they do dumb violent shit without building any base of support and discredit radical leftism.

Mostly irrelevant but I'm always a little disappointed when I read the material of these hard-line maoist/ML groups, at least the modern iterations. The style is always very offended and pedestrian, like a long 4chan post rather than an essay.

cheers

fuck me

>>We cannot sacrifice our principals for the sake of temporary alliances.

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tl;dr: larp vs larp.

:^)

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I love it user, this gon be fun.

I doubt they'll care, honestly

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Yup. This guy isnt so much better, a lot of idpol on his part, but this is a good general account of the "Red Guards" activity around the country:

medium.com/@BlackRedGuard/why-do-people-continue-to-take-the-us-red-guards-seriously-do-you-even-know-who-these-people-are-ab0040539030

Also, almost forgot to mention theyre Gonzaloists, as in the Gonzalo that derailed the Shining Path into terrorists that killed and terrified peasants for dumb shit like "practicing witchcraft" and selling shit on the local market instead of supporting and protecting them to grow a base, like Maoists are supposed to do and what other Shining Path leaders had previously done to unsurprisingly great effect.

massproletariat.info/writings/2018-02-20-once_again_rga.html

Truly the next vanguard!
I bet he thinks of himself as "dually oppressed" too.
Golden.
This checks out.
Isn't this the /marx/ BO?
Such praxis!

Ismail? What?

Isn't he the one with the Jim Jones obsession?
>>>/marx/7168

This is pretty devastating BTFO.

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Not sure but he has never been into M-L-M.

Based Massachusetts Maotists btfoing Texas Maotists

and this is why nobody takes the left seriously anymore

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lmao

Nice stereotype m8. Pic related, yanks are New Englanders.

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thanks for posting these. yeah RGA and the other Maoist LARPers are just a bunch of feds.

butthurt yank detected

It's like we know our preferred type of enemies or something.

Don't shit on Ismail please, he's chill, even though I don't fully share his view on China.

On the topic, the only thing that bothers me is them shitting on Taake, which is a band I'd like to see if they are in my area, and I'd be pissed if some Maoist LARPers would raid the stage. I mean they are not Nazis if you know anything about Black Metal.

Yes, I am butthurt.

No problem. It's really unfortunate that they're like this but having any illusions about it would be much more dangerous.


What do you expect we do with such a fledgling left struggling to get its footing? There isnt exactly on option to sit this bickering out, as petty and exhausting as it is.

This 1000x. They are delusional and extremely stupid LARPers who have drunk too deep in their own kool aid.


Bullshit. Ninety-nine percent of antifascist work is "intelligence work" – to the extent that it is – involving long hours sitting at a computer and drinking coffee. Seriously. This is dumb. I hate this. I want these groups to delete their blogs, put down their guns and go away.

pretty much every other left group in the US is aware that RGA is most likely a state op. people are afraid to say it, because there is no "smoking gun".

Whoa, sauce on this? I believe it completely but thats pretty damn close to a smoking gun so I'd like to know for sure before I repeat it

Also check out this RGA gem in pic related.

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my fucking eyes holy shit

Proofs of these? The rest I agree with.

Don't forget they got one of their members arrested, and then put up a PAYPAL account to donate to him. PayPal openly collaborates with the FBI of course. It's a honeypot.

OH NO NO NO NONONO

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It wouldn't be the least bit surprising if it came out that RGA turned out to be a honeypot organization. They have exactly the kind of adventurist, mindlessly violent, ultra-revolutionary (but ultimately empty and ineffectual) rhetoric which characterizes state operatives. Like those anarchists who got duped into getting involved in a bomb plot by an undercover FBI agent a few years back, or the Marxist–Leninist Party of the Netherlands.

I'm just happy that anyone in the US refers to themselves as Marxists, tbh.

Can I get some quick rundowns?

literally /ourguys/

Oh Jesus. I would note that they appeared out of nowhere in 2014 right around the time of the Ferguson unrest. I remember RGA cadres showing up at BLM protests and dumping pig's heads on the ground and chanting "oink oink bang bang" at the cops. If you wanted to destabilize and disrupt a police reform movement, that'd be one way to do it.

fuck RGA and fuck police reform.

I'm not stating an opinion I'm stating that's what it is, and that's what RGA would've been set up to disrupt.

There are plenty of people in the US who call themselves Marxists while also not being federal agents.


Anarchist thing was in 2012, some anarchists somewhat involved with Occupy Cleveland got herded together by an FBI informant. This informant then took the lead in planning bombings for the group to carry out, and the lot of them were arrested and sentenced to time in prison. Guardian has a good rundown here: theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/nov/28/cleveland-anarchist-bomb-plot-fbi

The Marxist-Leninist Party of the Netherlands was straight up founded and run by Dutch intelligence, the BVD. They were so effective they fooled Mao and the Chinese, and weren't disbanded until 1989. They have their own Wikipedia page and all.

Um…what the fuck? This went from crying about anarcho-liberals to crying about ayncraps? Implicating them as the same group? I'm pretty sure the concept (by that I mean, spook) that is the NAP is something exclusive to ayncraps, isn't it? I have honestly never seen it upheld by any other ideologue except them.

Bunch of butthurt fags. FBI honeypot indeed.

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Why is Maoism so cancerous? And burger Maoism especially? BRG isn’t that much better than the people whose dirty laundry he’s airing

I don't like Maoism but to be totally fair, Americans make everything bad.

Because it is the most 'militant' looking communist ideology due to its association with guerrilla warfare. This is how you know the worst of autists and larpers will flock to it. Maoist rhetoric is also very distinct and militant sounding which makes these larpers feel like badass revolutionaries when speaking it.

ruralpeople.atspace.org/

You see, some people just don't understand the concept of "American Exceptionalism": Americans make everything exceptionally bad.

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You know, we used to laugh at settler-tier shit like this back in the day. The fact that you thought this was ok to post is actually the most depressing thing because it means we're most likely neck-deep in newfags now.

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Idpolers from plebbit have always wandered in here.

kek this word salad, can't wait for these wanna be terrorists end up having every open leftist locked for life becasue shooting some cops 4 month old baby with a airsoft gun killing it was "revolutionary"

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Fuck off, Board Volunteer.

Agreed, he's pretty obnoxious and self righteous but I seriously doubt he could be a cop and ultimately his praxis isnt that bad, I would be willing to work with him within reason.

that was rather… detailed

I only heard about this because the group wrote a 15,000-word communique on their website explaining it in detail, including all the messy interpersonal drama between members that got physical in an apartment (or something, it was really long and confusing) that led to an arrest from city police – and then the guy later got scooped up by feds while visiting his bail bondsman's office for the gun charge.

Like… even if the group was an authentic "revolutionary cell" (whatever that means), why would you do that? Just air your dirty laundry like that? It's hilariously stupid and/or honeypot.

IDK much about the group, but from over here it seems they are the only visible marxist group in the usa right now

these guys and the jim crow guys (but they are connected or something??)

Not at all, and their visibility is to all of our detriment. PSL is much better (even if theyre not good) and has been around much longer, more membership too.

No idea what youre referring to by the "jim crowe" guys, you mean john brown? Theres some gun clubs around by them and Redneck Revolt and they do good work but not really a proper party and are pretty limited in scope.

Redneck Revolt is dogshit.

Explain? I would believe it ive never actually met any of them or had real experience

these larpers get gulag

but its shit

Not that guy but they seem as LARPy as RGA but with Democrat Cops of America-tier politics

RGA are just as ultraleft and larpy as Anarchist.

I really dislike them and their shit positions

Sprouts Farmers Market's stock plunges -13%
marketwatch.com/story/sprouts-farmers-markets-stock-plunges-after-same-store-sales-miss-lowered-guidance-2018-05-03

All Americans are called yankees outside the US, just like they used to call all Europeans Franks in Asia. Get over it

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist–Leninist_Party_of_the_Netherlands


So Dutch spies may be the ones responsible for Mao's rightward turn in cooperating with the US….

Will these guys overthrow brownback? That'd be fucking nice, what that guy did to the state is a textbook example of why laissez faire capitalism is horrendous.

shit he's not even in anymore lol

Why the fuck do all Maoists write like this? It's like they have seminars to teach this distinctive, immediately recognizable style that sounds ultra-pompous and like it's poorly translated from Mandarin. I'm not convinced that these people even come from the planet Earth.

yeah, sorry, john brown

you don't need a proper party, nor can you viably have one in the USA; PSL - see i've never heard of them, but I even donated some money (bought a t-shirt) from the Austin folks; I've never really seen any US communist go to the streets with all the hammer and sickle stuff

as soon as you have such a "party" in the US, it's gonna be full ob CIA and FBI and maybe that one college student lmao

Another thing RGA did was take in homeless trans kids, exploit them for money and then kick them out when they didn't convert to Maoism.

Next you'll tell me gulags are bad

pastebin.com/FBRF3VhG
easy peasy lemon squeezy

I just wish we had a proper leftist organization in Austin. I didn't even hear about a may day outside of a poster, although LARPers aren't much better.

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Florida men think they understand Maoism.

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I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or someone trying to falseflag ☭TANKIE☭s

racialist garbage

It's a joke obviously, but the GULAGs were unironically very good:
espressostalinist.com/the-real-stalin-series/gulag/

You lot would've preferred it had that diddler Beria taken over instead of Nikita.