Devout Nat Soc right wing, AMA

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No its economy improved overtime because of a general recovery from the great depression + Hitlers kickbacks allowing industrialists to reap benefits in exchange for token benefits back to the gov
So Social-Democracy works perfectly?
Congrats you just admitted that Nat "Soc" literally is Not socialism

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Right but still moves from a Not Socialist government… Yikes just proved my point!

It did, albeit temporarily and unsustainably. Had they won, they would've fixed that shit right up, and still be down today. I dunno what the fuck brain force plus is though.

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Are you actually claiming that hitler came up with the idea of Social-Democracy? see….

The Fabian Society
UK/AUS/NZ Labor party
2nd Internationale
The first open Social-Democrat to be elected to office was in sweden Protip: Not a Nat "Soc"

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Oh wow an actual polyp on Zig Forums! Thanks for giving us this opportunity to engage with one of your kind in this obviously intellectually honest manner!

capitalism has internal contradictions when lefted unchecked result in destitution and poverty for all. as well as wars of imperialism and lower wages/higher productivity.

youtube.com/watch?v=qOP2V_np2c0

if you are anything but a socialist/communist you are a moron

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They literally had to go to war else they'd be bankrupt. Nice "economy" you got there.

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Listen here bub, you misinterpreted what I said clearly. Social Democracy works just fine in their countries, Nat Soc in some. Didn't claim that shit.

Suck my ass and engage in debate or fuck off cunt.

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hitler isn't even edgy anymore faggot

follow a real leader you white nigger

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check your privilege

You seem to be missing my point
1. Nat "Soc" is a Rip-off of Social-democracy not the other way around
2. If Nat "Soc" is basically just Germanic Nationalist Social democracy it is by definition not a form of socialism
3. If Scandinavia is National-Socialist then why not move there?

And proud, faggot.
1/2 Asian, 1/2 White. Not a Nazi.

I wish there was a good nat soc leader in my nation, but there isn't, so when I run for local office I'll be one. I don't follow Hitler though he fucked up bad lmao & he'd hate me.

so what makes you a "devout nat soc"? are you primarily nationalist? social conservative? what does the "soc" part mean to you?

Okay. Why the fuck do you think scandinavia is in any way "national socialist"?

It was sorted out
The famine would have been worse without Gov intervention

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Nationalist of my own country, fucking LOVE my people, and socialist conservative yeah.

Not really, Soc-Dem doesn't have staunch nationalism which really matters.
Also, they're not my people, I can never live there.

Key word pseudo. Soc-Dem to be exact, it's an ideological cousin.

It might as well have been.

Aight?

Way to avoid answering the question

and what about the "socialism" part?

Many of the Jews, most of the "degenerates" and nearly all of the disabled people killed by the Nazis were Germans.

How do you reconcile your hatred for all jews and brown people while being a Christian who literally worships a brown jew?

why? Because the poor kulaks got killed due to the grain that they burnt and live-stock they killed?

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Ehhhh. Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Not in the eyes of their countrymen and that's the deciding factor really bub.

In the profuse aiding of your own countrymen. In a way I sort of agree with socialism, but not enough to call myself a leftist.

Simple, I just don't hate brown people or jews lmao. I don't mind race or religion as long as they're not in my country causing shit.

But they did though?

Just making sure but you're from America too right?

you're not very smart are you?

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i dont really see what makes you a nazi. if you aren't motivated by like scientific racism and anti-semitism, you're just kind of a generic right wing nationalist whos okay with a little left-wing economics.

You fill me with a murderous rage

No.

They certainly genocided them. Nobody's innocent of it lmao.
I don't condone either of them, but they just weren't German.

Then go for it, let me hear that argument bub.

Well I can't be a Nazi because I'm not a German Worker. I'm just a Not Socialist.

Aussie, kiwi, or Canadian?

It's complicated. Lived half my life in Europe, half in South America. Though seeing as in Europe they do not see me as European I identify as Brazilian, and love my countrymen.

so are you like a diehard capitalist with an entirely worked out ideology of why FULLSOCIALISM supposedly sucks or do you just kinda draw from mainstream socialism-bashing?

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1. The Jews, the disabled and the people who did things that made Hitler's willy feel funny were ethnically, culturally, and nationally German.
2. The Kulaks were traitors, they burned grain during a drought while workers starved in the cities, that is a far worse act than murder and absolutely justifies the severity of the collectivization

Your English is pretty good.

Why do you support fascism? Do you even understand the capitalist nature of fascism?

That's because I grew up in England too haha.

Fuck that shit.

Neither. I take a bit from socialism because it does have good aspects, most ideologies too. But the amount of socialism most socialists want is autistic. I have my own resolution of it really.

Democracy doesn't work, and my nation has actually flourished a great deal more under authoritarianism than democracy or leftism.

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what about various left-wing nationalist governments? there were quite a few in latin american history

see
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So what do you think we want you spooked faggot?

If we can build robots to do everything for us would that convince you to support fully automated luxury communism with gay characteristics?

You know what I think you want.

None of them worked, and when Brazil turned into one, it turned into the shithole we know globally. Fascism and Monarchism was the best time for the nation. Unironically too even the communists here state that. It just had a ridiculously benevolent monarchy.

Undoubtedly yes. It doesn't take much to realise socialism is the ideology of the future.

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I really don't. Answer the question you spunk-spewing fuckwit.

Because I share their culture and my family has been there for 10 generations on my dad's side, and three on my mother's. Have citizenship, am basically from there. The region I'm from share the same ancestry as me, I.E foreigners.

As far as nat socs you seem like reasonable enough guy.

Seems a weird thing to say. Why wouldn't you be a socialist then? Do you think it has to come to the world slowly to avoid some sort of catastrophe or something?

Thanks man. Like at the end of the day, this shit is just politics & I respect that people have other views, I just don't respect the views themselves. That's how it is.

Aight well, a society entirely devoid of meritocracy and currency, where everyone is supported by society at large and their 'equal' contributions help a larger machine as cogs, in return the machine supports the cogs.

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The DAY that robots do all the work and provide everything for us, then yeah I'll hang my SS armband in the attic and hold up a hammer and sickle. I meant far future, we won't be alive for the time where being socialist will be the only logical option

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It doesn't really matter how well Brazil was doing under the empire, you can't bring back the material conditions of that era. The world today is dominated by monopoly capital. You can see liberal democracy is in decline, but fascism isn't the answer, that's just means more capitalism.

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Why hasn't any fascist nation lasted even as long as libertarian Marxist communes such as the Zapatista's territory?

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That's communism.

That's the day I hang up my socialist banner and fully embrace communism.

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One of socialism's criticism of capitalism as well as your dumb nut-sac ideology is that they are all devoid of them.
And this is a bad thing? Albeit you could argue that labour vouchers would be utilised, and equilibrium prices could be measured with said vouchers. Difference being is that Labour vouchers do not circulate like other forms of currency.
Define the machine and cogs and quit being vague you daft-cunt.

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Oh no of course. That's why the Monarchist movement is absolutely autistic and I don't support it. Democracy isn't the answer though, you just need the right fascist cabinet.

I have to apologise but what's nazbol?

I also got to apologise bub I don't know enough about Zapatista's territory to comment, but shedding some light is appreciated.

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your response to is correct however

They're essentially an anarchist/libertarian community in Mexico that has been functioning without a state for decades.

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Dude labour vouchers is basically what money is, except requires specific labour to get.

Machine and gogs are a metaphor you antsy prick.

I chuckle when you say nut-sac it's a good fucking pun but you're fuckin wrong kiddo. Capitalism is perfect for meritocracy, anyone can become rich.

Well shit I have to look into this then, cheers.

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but my autism then kicks in when I see something I don't like

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people can also be born rich on the basis of their ancestors achievements. or born poor on the basis of their ancestors failures. not really meritocratic.

Is this the intelligence of le ebin Nut-sac. Labour vouchers don't circulate like money you retard.
So you don't deny that socialism lacks meritocracy now? Good to know.

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Nothing's perfectly fair. Typically those born into it lose it too. By grandfather was a German immigrant who was ridiculously poor, yet grew to become rich. He's my inspiration, but that's beside the point.

Eh, fair point on the labour voucher one, you got me there. It doesn't circulate.

Also no, because labour vouches aren't shit. They don't allow meritocracy.

For the last point, life isn't fair, make the best of what you have and rise to become rich. It's meritocracy with a different starting line, but still meritocracy.

Huh, weird how the poltard doesn't respond to facts
pic is my face when another delusional illiterate retard starts a shitty bait thread

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well yeah, they do. I mean, the greater the duration and intensity of your work, the more you get.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Marx_Wage_Labour_and_Capital.pdf

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Marx_Critque_of_the_Gotha_Programme.pdf

pls read this first

Goes to show you monkeys can't talk, most of you.

Have to apologise though I actually didn't notice you reply to me. For the Kulak thing, if that's the angle the public saw it through, then yes but there should've been due process not t. genocide exdee. Also, again, not by the definition of their countrymen, and that matters more.

It doesn't though because that means there's a physical cap to how many you can have, based on labour. While capitalism allows for increase in money via companies, etc.

Always open to new shit, so yeah sure.

why do you think you should be supported by society at large by receving shit without returning a commensurate amount of work?