what is your opinion on the baader meinhof gang leftypol? How lefty were they? Did they really commit suicide in prison or did the state dispose of them?
What is your opinion on the baader meinhof gang leftypol? How lefty were they...
Liam Howard
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Thomas Myers
Love them or hate them, I think we all agree it's not a strategy we should adopt.
Eli Kelly
They confused China of year 1927 with Germany of 1972.
Ryder Wilson
agreed, although they arguably have a bigger legacy than any modern left rev movement that has spawned from 70s onwards
Zachary Perry
It never worked in itself anywhere.
Also, they didn't try to make revolution. They tried to weaken their state so that the USSR would have easier time beating it.
Brayden Walker
They were Brigate Rosse with less CIA.
Honorable, but not very useful.
Thomas Campbell
doesn't mean shit lmao
Luke Thompson
These groups should do serious irreparable damage before they inevitable break down and become a shit stain on history of the left
Luke Rodriguez
Wew
Ayden Nguyen
Ultraleftists with shit praxis. Didn't saw the proletariat as the Revolutionairy subject and wanted to just skip to revolution without mass organization and a vanguard party
Liam Ortiz
The Red Army Faction were fags, terrorism undermines our cause. Anyone who thinks that violence is the answer, especially in this modern era, is a deluded faggot. Socialism must be advanced via peaceful means, no-one likes violent thugs trying to impose their views on others. It's a big reason why I never liked the black bloc anarchists.
Hudson Edwards
yes! we'll DELEGATE the bourg's power away!
Ryder Phillips
Hahaha, what? Terrorism aside, State is violence, and any meaningful impact on it is application of violent force or coercion. Do you even Marx?
Gabriel Davis
Nigger please
Ayden Nguyen
delusional retard detected
Ryder Morris
Good Organization and Good but unrefined Praxis. The methods need to be more methodical and planned to gain popular support.
Terrorism while minimizing civilian casualties is good terrorism. Did better than the plfp and other Maoist organizations in south Asia in regards to collateral damage.
Luke Rodriguez
Coercion via the state or coercion through paramilitaries accomplishes the same thing in the end. It would be nice if relying on parliamentary victories were enough, but at the very least you'd end up with a civil war on your hands after winning a few elections.
Kevin Williams
Thought experiment: if the RAF were active in Nazi Germany, what would the effect have been?
Jaxson Bell
Literally every person they killed deserves it, that's not something you can say for most revolutionary groups
Granted they only killed like 30 people, but still
Mason Wright
Nuts and cuckoo clocks. Got a bunch of their own people killed for no gain. Recruited from the mentally insane. (Look up the Socialist Patients' Collective: "turn illness into a weapon.") One of the members, Horst Mahler, later became a neo-Nazi and the West German cop who plugged Benno Ohnesorg was in fact a Stasi agent. Some of the motives of RAF members were perhaps understandable as West Germany was complicit in a lot of awful shit but their militant death-drive was a colossal mistake.
Owen Robinson
I'm pretty sure the Royal Air Force was active in Nazi Germany
Hudson Ward
DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS
Caleb Allen
What a fucking sucdem. A communist party should combine both legal and illegal methods, that's why I think we should have something like the CNT-FAI, e.g. a legal party which should engage in agitation and organize strikes and a paramilitary organization with secret membership.
Daniel Powell
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James Gomez
fail