What's the best way to change things? I'm not talking about whether or not we have practice that's Syndicalist, Agorist...

What's the best way to change things? I'm not talking about whether or not we have practice that's Syndicalist, Agorist, Blanquist or whatever. But how do we get people to agree to organize themselves at all? Mainstream media is bullshit and people barely have access to a Socialist perspective on anything. How do we possibly get through to people in this environment?

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By using already existing momentum, all great changes latched on to something that was already present, all prophet's preached to the choir.

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I'm thinking of trying to get people "off the grid" to the extreme. Warn of an eventual market crash, make our own high speed IP and maybe even start a local school.
Emphasis on trying to ween ourselves off of money (Which allows folks to save up more in credit unions)
Pseudo-Amish-like I suppose.

Learn to use the sticker shock attached to supremely expensive things in your advantage as negotiators. Proving that X thing or Y thing is in everybody's interest is great and good work that creates marginal progress everywhere, so I'm not saying to stop that, but a lot of lefty propaganda is about the little things we can all do to reduce the big problems nobody can do anything about. That's ceding a lot of territory in the sens-a-powa. It can get draining sometimes to fight the tide, so instead of always trying to do the smallest effective thing, try punching up something gigantic. Build a new harbor so the tide is a little calmer. Nuclear power's proponents might actually be weaker if nuclear power plants were less famously expensive. Giant hydroelectric projects are budget nightmares that nevertheless change landscapes by actually getting done. Embrace the thing you can't persuade anyone of and you might find you can persuade everyone of it.

It's like building pyramids in old Egypt. The big impossible organization challenge is exactly the thing you need to take on if you need to have a big functional organization response. Modern people can do better than useless tombs. Change the landscape in some way that carries your ideas forward. People get excited about leaving a mark on the world. Humans are a species of monument builders. They don't always have to be building monuments to themselves. Tell people they're going to be building anything that permanently alters the world going forward and you've got a chance of really getting somewhere.

It's hard to come up with something that promotes egalitarianism with that approach, but it shouldn't be impossible. Maybe literally build a pyramid, but make it an arcology. Make a site into the world's best public housing to take some of the bloat out of the rentier class by providing an alternative to a market transaction (house renting) that tends to soak people for all they're worth over the years they do it. Maybe build something that expands humanity's ability to pipe and store resources of various kinds. When shortages bid up prices, its the poorest who get left with empty hands, so do things that make shortages permanently less likely. That work hasn't all been done yet. And how about water? Water that is bad or inadequately supplied makes people sick, tired, and stupid. That's fixable. It makes everything else easier when it's fixed.

There are other causes that are considered lefty, too. Environmentalism could definitely use some landscape changes. Environmentalism might be able to make something of literally changing the landscape, though metaphorically changing it with new construction is more likely to be good. Cover a desert with solar panels, way more than you know yourself to need, and really try to roust up a whole community as you do it. Run a second project of the same kind as far around the curve of the earth as you can run good wires to, and hook them together. Get capacitors into literally every house to oversupply the grid with resilience to fluctuations. Do something "ridiculous", embrace the temporarily slagged economy, watch the world recalibrate in your favor afterwards. Big projects things test a lot of people and can really activate human assets that would otherwise not have been worth much.

The idea of the virtual economy is nice, but there are still real-world resource issues, and they are really fixable.

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unironically this

That would have the exact opposite effectof what op described. Withdrawing from the system doesnt change the system

No, unironically not that.

This user is the only one on the right track.
You just need a leader, fam. Someone the light the passion of the masses.
At least a face or a symbol to represent the movement.
And you actually have to assemble with real people and do real things.

You're wrong.

It's a modest start at *replacing* the system and better positioning people to reject it. The basic idea can grow and spread. And no doubt attract attention from the feds ala Waco