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So we know that Burgers for the Longest time have de-facto criminalized Criticism of Israel by Basically banning companies and Private citizens from Embargoing Israel
But now they have made moves to make it De-Jure with both Major Parties supporting a Bill that would make criticism of Israel in general Illegal
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I've always been confused by Americas allegiance to Israel. I dont buy any conspiracy theories about a higher level of jewish puppet mastery, nor do i believe Zionism as an idelogy really exists, and so the only possible arguement remaining is that America simply has a large population of Jews that the parties want to represent. And even still, when have either of the parties been interested in representing minorities, whatsoever?
It has less to do with "pleasing the Jews" and more to do with Israel as a strategic base for western interests in the Middle East.
It's funny though, because the Dems are starting to become more vocal over concerns with unconditional American support for Israel, partially because 1. the economic players represented by the Dems don't get much bang for their buck off of Israel, and 2. most American Jews are becoming conservative and voting GOP as Reform birthrates plummet while Orthodox birthrates keep skyrocketing (keep in mind many Orthodox Jews are "newly religious" too).
Ooh of course, the relationship between the two is so close that the concept of america doing what it always does and just using Israel for geopol flew right over me.
Israel prints casus belli for USA to interfere in Middle East.
American support for Israel will dry up once neither party or the economic interests they represent get as much as they give from supporting it. Bernie, who was almost elected, has been vocally supportive of Palestine for some time now, and is still heavily revered by many Americans.
Zog is real
No its not ya faulty spark plug
Deny reality all you want you shit for brains, the kikes obviously run the show.
If the ZOG Occupied Government is real, how come it has such little influence outside of the US? European media is way more critical of Israel. An entire province in Spain almost voted for an Israeli boycott. So where is the ZOG Occupied Government in these cases?
What criticism? The entirety of western Europe is a dumping ground for refugees that arise from Zionist wars in the middle east. Oh but some irrelevant European MP criticized israel that one time!
lmao @ yer life
you can barely comprehend politics outside of a puppet show and you're calling me shit for brains. How am i supposed to take anything you say seriously when your ideology is like a rejected plot for metal gear
Nigga if Zionist Politicans control the planet why are Nations that are explicitly Anti-Zionist even allowed to exist LMAO
How am I supposed to take anything seriously when you write posts like these:
You're too stupid to live, the evidence is staring you in the face but you still won't acknowledge it.
The only explicitly anti ZOG Occupied Government nation on the entire planet is Iran and they are being sanctioned into economic oblivion
Cuba
Nicaragua
Venezuela
DPRK
Bolivia
Syria
Plenty of European countries / Zionism
Zionism is a Anglo thing
Most other people either dont care or hold a openly Anti-Zionist view
lol, might as well just Turks and Caicos and dominica too
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Friendo you write posts like "maybe there are just a lot of jew in the united States"
You don't know basic facts. There are barely 6 million Jews in the United States, in sheer numbers there are probably more muslims in the united States at this point. You're a dumb chucklefuck who knows nothing.
List more barely functional governments from the other side of the planet that offer token lip service resistance to israel and ZOG Occupied Government, won't make them any more relevant.
Wait What?
you are correct in telling me i dont know the demographics of the united states. i was later reminded that america holds a candle to know one who isnt an advantage to them and is using israel for geopolitcal influence.
go ahead and tell me how jews run the world or something
German and even French media tend to be pro-Palestine.
t. was an exchange student in Germany during the 2014 Gaza massacre
How are any of these goverments ive listed barely functional?
Keep moving those goal posts mate
Atleast in the modern sense.
It's weird how much the left tries to defend Israel, or deflect Israel's attacks into America.
So why only Israel?
Where is the pro-Germany, pro-South Korea, pro-Japan policies?
That analogy fails apart when you realize how poor and unimportant the Middle East is in global American real politics, Europe and Asia are much more important.
The only thing that makes sense is that Israel secretly controls the US's government, and the Middle east is actually important to Israel, not the US.
No? Who are the ones first in line to criticism the IDF and Netenyahu whenever they continue to keep up their BS? You'd have to do some impressive logical gymnastics to directly blame america for that
Certainly not the right.
The left is impotent against Israel, and if you criticize Israel too much, you got called nazi and anti-semites.
Why is it so hard to believe?
The whole war in the ME starts to make sense when you realize it's Israel sending its goons (America & the UK) messing with Israel's competitors.
Read a fuckin book, Middle Eastern conflict stems from before Israel existed
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Nope, the ME was relatively peaceful until the british start sending in the jews.
Remember all those Iran pictures.
It may not be effective criticism, but thats not the point that was made. Its criticism, not defending.
I anyone critisces Israel too much theyll get called anti-semites, most likely because theyre doing it to a concerning degree.
Between 1900-1945, there were 21 major conflcits in the middle east. Please dont make me tell you how many there were pre-1900 because i dont have time to explain why youre an idiot to you
It's exactly criticism, what's the hardest the western left has done against Israel?
The BDS is a fucking joke, it's exactly lifestylist, and it's even worse than that due to how defanged it is.
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USA does have plenty of "special" relationships with other countries though (South Korea, for example).
The real evil in the MENA isn't Israel but Saudi (with Israel being a close second).
You mean the ones of the Shah's urban elites?
France didn't colonize the Maghreb for the sake of da jooz.
Please list every major conflicts you mention and tell me the casualties.
We will see how major it is.
So not sure if youve noticed, but the west is neo-liberal capitalist, which is closer to youre right wing band of mouth breathers than the centre ground, let alone the left.
If your not in power, what can you do against a state, ya melt
You realize the Saudi has direct connection with Israel and they are close allies, correct?
And no, USA does not have laws that protect S. Korea, Germany, Japan from being boycotted.
Japan vidya games in the US are being censored/banned and Germany goods are being tariffed.
Where is this Israel Lobby in the EU? China? India? Keep in mind China and India are about to surpass the US as the global hegemons any day now.
Except you can, I mean where the leftist volunteer battalions to physically destroy Israel?
Even the right has better ground game by proposing to cut Israel's military aid.
Armenian Genocide?
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6.5 Million in WW1, seems pretty major. Oh wait let me guess someone in first world war was jewish so thats their fault too
The ADL is actively active in EU.
There's a group of jews in power in China also.
And India will never surpass anyone let alone themselves.
This is where you fuckin barrel off into insanity. Not everyone here is mad like you and see's a nations destruction to be the only solution. Go larp a crusade
Uh yeah, the whole war is at war in WW1+WW2, nice try dipshit.
Which is one, and is instigated by the turk.
So what happened to all "the revolution is the only way" talk?
Is that just talk?
Only recently, and this has more to do with the Saudis wanting to appear more user-friendly to rake in tourism dollars once the oil runs out.
European media is highly critical of Israel. German media was very pro-Gaza when I was there, nothing close to the amount of hasbara shit from the American media.
Riiiight. Name them.
They are pretty damn close to becoming China 2.0.
That's because the Ottoman empire collapsed. It was perfectly peaceful prior to that for practically centuries. And as soon as the Ottoman empire collapsed the jews started openly colonizing Palestine in 1918 with the Balfour declaration. It has been a never ending cycle of Jewish imperialism ever since.
So yeah. You know nothing. But we already established that.
Its the proof you wanted, but youre changing the goalposts
Hey, how about this: if Israel needs to be destroyed, how about you fly over to the West Bank, join the PFLP, and get a taste of what real armed struggle in an attempt to destroy an entire nation is like? Or you can fly over to Lebanon, join Hezbollah (because they're like soooper kewl man), and not only learn about the harsh ways of armed struggle, but also the harsh discipline of living a hardcore Shia lifestyle (complete with no masturbation, no swearing, no showing skin above the wrist, and so on)?
literally what are you on about. Our revoloution comes with the destruction of capitalism. Its got nothing to do with the destruction of Israel or any nation for that matter you genocidal freak
Ottoman collapse was mostly internal. They were called "the sick man of Europe" for a reason, having lost the bulk of their territories in the Balkans and North Africa AND something close to half their population to the plague in a few decades.
This is going to give the alt-right so much fuel. Fucking murica…
What fucking Right-wing Orgs do that LMAO?
Literally No one here is denying Israeli imperialism
I dunno how this is relevant when the german government provides israel with submarines for free and functions as a dumping ground for the refugees that arise from wars she wages.
Again, instances of token criticism is absolutely toothless.
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And American media is critical of China all while doing trade with China. The point is, the Israel Lobby has virtually no power outside of American borders.
Uh, no. The 6.5 million are direct conflict casulties, theres a near extra 2 million from famine, influenza etc that comes with infrastructure collapse.
As for the flooding of jews, you lot are barking mad and arent actually interested in real debate lmao
Nope, the house of Saud literally has jewish lineage. They in fact cooperated with the brits in order to have the jews resetlled in Israel.
Yeah I don't see this shit, what's the worst sounding article you find? You can get jailed for doubting the Holocaust in Germany.
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At paper tiger 2.0?
Isnt that all that the Anti-Israeli Right does as well though? Criticize it?
You mean Hezbollah?
Is Israel not a capitalist country?
Except the whole world is at war in that time.
Source? Lemme guess, Kevin Macdonald and/or Mondoweiss and/or Islamic website?
How many Arabs have died in the middle east since Israel became a formal state?
I don't even want to look it up. But definitely a lot more than the 6.5 million that died as the result of the Ottoman empire collapsing. So again. You know nothing.
The pro-Israel right actually wants to cut funding for military aid and move out of organization that is pro-Israel (EU).
There is no point in singling out Israel. We are universalists in that we seek the destruction of capitalism EVERYWHERE, not just in specific countries.
And yes, universalism will HAVE to take Jews and Israeli Jews into account if it is to be truly universalist and not "everyone but the Jews".
Israel-Palestine conflict deaths are relatively small compared to other conflicts in the region (not saying Israel isn't a genocidal country but you have to look at it in perspective). Iraq-Iran war had way more deaths, Yemen had a fuckton of deaths, etc.
Thats Literally what the Left also wants though…
What dont you understand.
The falling of capitalism doesnt mean the destruction of countries you mountain sized dipshit.
Yes the whole world was at war, gold star, you asked for examples of conflict in ME before israel, then when i gave you 21, you asked for something major. Do you get it now. The middle east wasnt peaceful and it never has been.
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Nice try bud
Except you have no problem singling out America.
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Whose left? Because the prominent left wants to stay in the EU lol
The middle east was peaceful for centuries under the tutelage of the Ottomans you god damn sniveling hasbara kike
I'm talking about the entire conflict from 1948 until today. Yes, Israel is a piece of shit country, but I-P deaths are just a fraction of the massacres which have been going on in the MENA since then.
Israel has many more Imperial Wars and occupations
West Bank
Golan Heights
Basically every war theve been in since inception
Funding Terrorists in Syria and the Lebanon
You have no statistics to back your major wars in the ME before the creation of Israel. WW1+WW2 do not count because that's the whole war at all and ME was a big front.
As usual, the Left is impotent against the jews.
Who is singling out America? I'm equally against the EU, China, India, anywhere there's capitalism. The US gets the most shit because it's currently the global hegemon. In a few short years China and India will surpass the US and they'll be our no. 1 and 2 enemies.
because you cant prove Israel is directly involved in any other conflicts rn.
All I'm reading from this is: "BLOOD AND SOIL. BLOOD AND SOIL."
Take your fascist bullshit elsewhere.
What about before the ottomans?
Well if were talking about Europe explicitly then i would point mainly to Communist Parties and Left-SocialDemocratic Parties
I dunno, this board?
Each time you criticize Israel, you get point out it's America, not Israel.
lol I will wait, chance is the chinese is socialist memers are gonna purge your ass.
Warsaw pact opposed Israel, socialist Ba'athists opposed Israel, revolutionary socialists in the west (Black Panthers, French Communists, etc.) opposed Zionism. China opposes Israel. (Being one of Palestine's biggest supporters at the UN)
Even jews like Chomsky and Einstein.
Mongol/Ilkhanate invasion of the Abbasid caliphate, Crusades, ERE wars against the Seljuks, Mameluk uprising, Egyptian-Ottoman wars, almost a thousand years of conflict between Rome and Persia.
The sack of Baghdad alone killed - by some estimate - more people than all the Israeli-Arab wars combined.
Don't act smug when you're this historically illiterate.
lol Israel is basically BLOOD AND SOIL FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE.
I have no concrete proof you took a shit sometime in the last 72 hours but I'm absolutely certain you did.
What proof do you want? AIPAC meeting minutes? Internal mossad memos about destabilising Iraq and Syria?
Get real.
Youre ideology is trash, Israel is one of the youngest countries on earth and that are of the world has been in perpetual conflict since the egyptians.
Wtf even is this argument?
Less wars happened before 1948 so fuck Jews?
I agree thhat Israel is a Major Destabilizing and colonialist force but Israel and Jews in general shouldnt be mixed up
Because it is America. Americans are directly responsible for every massacre Israel commits, because the US is writing Israel the check. This whole "Israel Lobby controls the US" is no doubt an American narrative promoted in order to take the blame off of regular American patriots who love their country and who refuse to see the intrinsic imperialist nature of it.
Yeah no one on here is supporting Israel, dipshit.
Yes it is
thats why we WANT TO GET RID OF IT
False equivalency, the fact is the only deaths as a direct result of israel happening right now are their oppression of Palestinians
China trades with Israel though as does India. They aren't pro-Israel or pro-Palestine but "neutral".