Ecuador to hand over Assange to UK ‘in coming weeks or days...

This is why socialism can literally only happen after the destruction of US hegemony.

What? Did you think the powers that be would really allow him to just coast forever? The beast wants blood, and the beast will get what the beast wants.

If you think Manning became a tranny by some evil CIA scheme you may have brain damage.

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What's worse is I know some people will probably cheer this on because they think Assange is a "Russian agent" or some shit.

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Id fully support the guy if he wasn't a rapist. THAT is what he should face criminal charges for.

if anything, he just needed to rawdog them harder until their pupils turned into hearts and then it wouldn't have been illegal anymore like in my japanese comics.

start by killing yourself, burger.

Lenin Moreno is a revisionist dick licker and a disgrace to both his name and his nation. Rafael Correa was a real one.

Assange didn't rape anyone but he is a reactionary. He was even in a weird Nazi doomsday cult as a kid. The original Wikileaks mission statement was to "expose corruption" exclusively in NATO-targeted countries like China and Russia. I think he went rogue and started publishing anti-capitalist leaks. But even so, Wikileaks was supposedly very important for the "Arab Spring." Not a "hero" to any real communists, but IMO his handing over to the UK is still a bad sign.

I hope he gets raped in prison for what he did to those women.

He was never convicted. What makes you say he did rape? Your gut feeling looking into those evil eyes?
Could this rape case maybe just maybe be an attempt to discredit one of the most significant anti-establishment figures of the 21st century?

he wouldn't be a martyr he got in bed with the right just to save his own ass, fuck him, hope they do shoot him.

assange is the one who tricked snowden into ending up in russia. basically sold him out. again, fuck this guy, total snake, no ideology.

Seems like Russia was a safer place than the Ecuadorian embassy. What is the problem exactly?

This. I'm not a BASED RUSSIA fag, but it seems like one of the handful of countries that would ignore a US extradition request over someone like Snowden

ok officer, I think you've made your point

We should organize some Tacharir-Square Style Protests.

Time to get the people to understand this is a big issue, and organize. But we need to actually get the word out and let the normal people who might watch mainstream media to understand what's about to happen.

Unfortunately, american liberals are still shaking violently from their embarassing loss two years ago, and consider Assange a Putin stooge for "helping Trump" in 2016 by exposing what a witch Hillary was and how dog shit corrupt the DNC was. You may find rational support outside of english speaking countries.

Sadly I feel you are right about that, and with my pigeon Chinese and broken French I cannot get my ideas out. Being an American myself I just have to face palm with the propaganda that spews and how liberals get up in arms about Russia Russia Russia.

I personally would rather have peaceful terms with Russia, seeing as I don't want to see cold war to be resumed (though I believe it has) and of course having to leave in fear once more of global war.

This will ultimately do more for Assanges "Cause" whatever that may be if he is jail because it will turn him into a Martyr for his ideals
I highly doubt the US Will risk a extradition at this point considering how much of a media spectacle / Cluster fuck this case has become

Jesus Christ the SuccDem meme is real.

Snowden was en route to Cuba or something when the US revoked his passport. It wasn't his or Assange's fault that he ended up in Russia when that happened. For whatever reason the US thought they could get Russia to extradite him.

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He also literally put the old Chavist president in prison and began privatisation of all the nationalised industries effectively reversing Ecuadors pink tide revolution

Fair comment, but it doesn't really address the fact that Manning's actions since release have been daft.

He picked Moreno.
Democratic populism fails again, who would have predicted it

Yep, Moreno must be getting pressured hard though. Still, to be that much of a cuck right after a real president that stood up for his country is sad. He's even bending over for the US on small shit like breast milk, let alone Assange.

you really think they give a fuck? I don't. He'll be getting extradited over the Russiagate stuff somehow. They don't care if some peasants scream about it.

I doubt it because then they'd have to introduce actual evidence in court, as opposed to the hearsay and innuendo the scandal relies on. Wikileaks has been conspicuously absent from the investigation considering it was the source of the whole thing in the first place. They'll probably get him on something unrelated.

dude has had 6 years to plan an escape
time to grab some hair dye and get a move, Julian

Nah, all they will have to do to smear him for good is

there will be no real outrage in the US. Libs and Cons won't stand up for him at all. It will just be some lefties and hippies. Libs will love seeing him persecuted just because They're With Her. Cons will not care enough about him to expend any energy or political capital. That will leave basically some rad lefties and hippies out in the streets, which will make the Cons side against him even more.

What the fucking fuck?
Were you just high that entire time?
What's not even what happened you freak.

He'll get done for the rape charges, I'm guessing. No one is going to bother prosecuting for Russiagate, it'll be left alone because "It's so obvious he worked with Russia, why waste time proving it in court? :^)"

This. Liberals think he's a Russian agent, and conservatives think he's a Russian agent and has betrayed American interests

the rape thing was already dropped though, and that would just send him to Sweden anyway. No, they want him in the US for a proper revenge. The rape thing will be thrown around just to ensure that the feminists will be attacking the 'bros' who support him and the left will stay divided.

They turned on him when he put up ICE doxxes on wikileaks

Not really concerned tbh. Assange himself has always come across as a bit of a twat, more Zig Forums than Zig Forums, and of the variety that thinks 1970s Sweden is a model of nightmarish oppression. Wikileaks itself linking to Zig Forums (and the Zig Forums dominated pdf board no less) is just embarassing twitter.com/wikileaks/status/592490045593948161
History is made by classes, not great men. To keep Assange is no benefit, to lose him is no loss.

If you think that Assange getting extradited and prosecuted is a good thing just because he may have some reactionary tendencies you're probably a liberal and don't belong on this board, where are all these awful takes coming from

Why is there so much disinformation in this thread?
Especially at the first half?
Either way, I hope he can get away. He did good stuff, the people need things like wikileaks to be able to realize that their government is not on their side.

It's in all threads about Russiagate, Wikileaks, etc. it's COINTELPRO, how else are you going to explain that every week there is a different poster (different posting style) that "really wants to talk about the Russia thing/le Drumpf collusion/pee tape etc." posting NYT articles.

I think that assuming it MUST be COINTELPRO needs real evidence until you can do that.
Until then, it's better to stay nuanced and say it's almost as if there's a dedicated attempt at subverting the community.

What I can say for sure is that a lot of immigrants have come here. All the oldfags that knew about books and loved critical thinking left to IRL I guess.

even when you don't lose the institutional logic of websites in general but imageboards in particular dictates that you give up.
on a traditional forum you can at least tell whether you're explaining something to a new guy, or an idiot you've explained it to a thousand times and he's still not getting it. on an imageboard, you've got no idea. functionally everyone is warped into basically one person: "Zig Forums" - now, even repeatedly explaining the same thing to new posters over and over and over gets soul destroying after a while (unless we're going to imagine Sisyphus happy.), so why keep doing itwhen you can give up, leave or tell them to fuck off? that's the institutional logic of it.

Have you been watching the news over the past week? Liberals and neocons are ass ravaged over Trump merely talking to Putin, Assanage is viewed as a terrorist that killed Americans and harmed America's war efforts. Trump himself is cornered by his own political problems, so of course he is going to bully the shit out of Ecuador and the flimsy excuse that is the May government as a way to "prove" his loyalty to America.

He will be extradited, given a show trial, then locked up for at least ten years (about the length of time it takes for everyone to forget about him). Wikileaks itself will be targeted for removal, either by the blocking the site's domain or having ICANN remove the site's registry entirely. That is the real goal in all of this anyway: to take down Wikileaks and get them to stop saying mean things about the US government.

As for martyrdom, that issue is fixable through peer pressure. New content standards can cause anyone who supports "extremism" to be banned from most social media websites, while the entire media simply calls him a terrorist who got Americans killed. Politically anyone who supports Assanage is a pariah anyway, so dissent is effectively silenced.

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There are liberals on the WikiLeaks twitter calling for his execution so yeah apparently

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I don't think it's good, it just isn't very important. How is he supposed to be as important as, EG, the thousands of kids who are being locked in cages by the US border authorities?

Because Assange runs a website dedicated to hosting leaked government documents? Let's suppose a video of guards raping detained children in front of their parents exists and is leaked, Wikileaks is the default location where someone would send a video like that. And Wikileaks itself already hosts documents detailing the US government's various fuck ups and collateral damage killing children in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is why the US government hates him so much.

I didn't type "__cp", weird.

Its on your end bud. Didn't see _cp until you commented on it.

Yeah but it's mostly a failure. When has Wikileaks ever actually caused people to rise up against the USA? Just hosting documents while not giving Marxist analysis on them is not great. Worse, Julian is a reactionary and injects his reactionary views into the discussion.

mate you literally didn't type "__cp"

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Good, fuck that cunt

You're not convincing anyone you know

At this point in history we only need to eliminate the American empire. Nothing else matters until America isn't able to extend it's influence beyond its borders.

The demise of the American empire can't come soon enough

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For all sad words of tongue and pen,
The saddest are these, 'tankies were right again'.

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Wikileaks didn't advocate revolution or Marxism at all, and Julian has advocated reactionary politics. Why should Marxists give him any more weight than, say, investigative journalists working for PBS or WaPo?

because they've published things PBS and WaPo didn't/wouldn't.

Because literally anyone who is critical of or releases secret info about the U.S. is le ebin based xD made by anti-yankee gang.

t. Amerifat

PBS and WaPo (and other liberal or conservative US papers) actually have and sometimes still do publish leaks, govt documents, and so on. The CIA papers, COINTELPRO papers, etc.

Another point: journalists get assassinated by fascist governments all the time. Just in Mexico, dozens get killed each year for trying to expose corruption and cartel activities. Anyone organizing a protest solely for Assange and not for investigative journalists who have gone to much more dangerous extremes for their work (and paid the price) is an idiot.

Anti-imperialists are critical of Wikileaks specifically because it was transparently founded as an American PSYOP and retains a number of reactionary characteristics. Of course that doesn't mean they ignore what useful information has been published by WL.

Pretty bad news. Also national journalists have pretty much all reached the conclusion that their own reporting on the DNC leaks was unethical because it was part of a foreign interference campaign. I think some people in this thread are still naive about what this means. Leaks, and whistleblowers, and other kinds of journalism are now going to be approved by the "IC" before they can be reported on by the US press. We are witnessing what will be viewed in retrospect as the defining moment in a paradigm shift. The US media now understands itself as a propaganda asset.

Anyone who seriously and unironically thought hat there was any hope for America is a fucking retard anyway. "Manufacturing Consent" is over 30 years old.

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It's different than the situation when MC was written. As Chomsky said to a BBC journalist, "you wouldn't have your job if you didn't believe what you believe." It's a different situation from getting an omerta from the CIA or being denounced for investigating off-limits scoops.

I don't care if he raped anyone, but can anybody tell me if Assange is a deepstate asset? Snowden probably is, and Manning seems to have turned or never really been a leftist at all.

Nu Jamarl "Eat The Rich" Thomas video, fuckers!

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum For Julian Assange. Anal Rape Is The Elephant In The Room

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What was Assange thinking when he became public person? If he pulls shit like WikiLeaks shouldn't he be underground using secret identities?

an anonymous shitposter could more easily be disposed of once they were located

did he actually buy into the freeze peach meme, and think he'd be ok if he was just publishing shit he was given by sources?

Yes it's true that journalism is getting very bad in the US, it's a combination of political and economic pressure. Over 20,000 journalism jobs have been eliminated since the 90s.

My personal theory is that he's probably an asset who turned on his handlers to some degree. Here's some interesting info:
- He was in a fascist doomsday cult as a kid called "The Family," see pic
theguardian.com/film/2016/nov/20/growing-up-with-the-family-inside-anne-hamilton-byrnes-sinister-cult
he denies heavy interaction with them, but I'm skeptical.

- The original Wikileaks mission statement plainly states that their goal is regime change in NATO-targeted countries:
web.archive.org/web/20070701115545/http://wikileaks.org/
"Our primary interests are oppressive regimes in Asia, the former Soviet bloc, Sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East, but we also expect to be of assistance to those in the west who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their own governments and corporations."
"If a document comes from the Chinese government, the entire Chinese dissident community can freely scrutinize and discuss it; if a document arrives from Iran, the entire Farsi community can analyze it and put it in context."

Even later (and to this day) Assange maintains he wants to leak documents from China and similar targeted countries:
blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/01/13/wikileaks-founder-our-enemy-is-china/
However, he hasn't leaked much from those countries as far as I know, apparently a failure in that regard.

- However he has personally taken credit for Arab Spring, which he and many media pundits claim was inspired by leaks. I'm doubtful the extent that Wikileaks actually facilitated either organic or CIA-directed rebellions.

- Assange has a history of working with police and getting out of prison early:
In September 1991, Assange was discovered hacking into the Melbourne master terminal of Nortel, a Canadian multinational telecommunications corporation.[27] The Australian Federal Police tapped Assange's phone line (he was using a modem), raided his home at the end of October,[46] and eventually charged him in 1994 with thirty-one counts of hacking and related crimes.[27] In December 1996, he pleaded guilty to twenty-five charges (the other six were dropped), was ordered to pay reparations of A$2,100 and released on a good behaviour bond,[44][47] avoiding a heavier penalty resulting from the perceived absence of malicious or mercenary intent and his disrupted childhood.[47][48][49][50][51][excessive citations]
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Sessions will do anything to make sure he and his friends can keep raping children. Why isnt he going after Trumps good friend convicted child rapist Jeffery Epstein? Becsuse Jeff Sessions fucks kids.

How much of a liberal moron do you have to be to not only believe those ridiculous accusations, but to go as far as to believe they outweigh all the good he has done?

He is not a rapist. His accusers all retracted their accusations once it became apparent that the ploy wasn't going to work. He even offered to go and face trial on the condition that he wouldn't be extradited to the US - of course this offer was declined.

If nothing else this whole shitshow has demonstrated just how cancerous feminism is to the left. You've got so-called leftists proudly taking the side of imperialist capitalist governments against a journalist who exposed their lies.

The law doesn't work on the balance of good and evil. You don't get away with murder just because you built a children's hospital that saved a greater number of lives.
From a strategic point of view, a man is not to be judged by the good he has done but the good he will do. A saw that has shattered should not be kept on the toolshelf simply because it was once a useful saw. Riding past success borders on the very definition of social capital.

The law is shit and should be ignored or actively violated at every opportunity.
Comparing Assange to a broken tool only proves that you have no idea what you're talking about.

maybe because i'm not a fanboy for a reactionary weirdo and because i know great men don't make history. :^)

You forgot your #I'mWithHer hashtag.

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This a bizarre and naive understanding what what great man theory is

The left needs to face the fact that 95 percent of feminists are apart of the Liberal establishment and would do anything to defend the status quo. Non hypocritical/inconsistent marxist feminists who arent Liberal spook larps are so few and far between that they dont even register to the average normie, who often relate the actions of radical Liberal feminist man haters and gender dividers to those of the marxist left . The true left needs to drop female identity politics for egalitarianism

And even then the genuinely radical Marxist feminists have shitty theory.

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Thanks, user.

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Julian totally panders to the alt right. He's tweeted incessantly about refugees flooding Europe, and Nigel Farage type garbage. I honestly don't think him a leftist, but more a Duginist. He's one of those disaffected leftists happy to join a fascist movement to destroy his liberal critics. Weak. Counter-revolutionary. Not leftist. His one redeeming quality is he provided a platform for real hero leakers, and is supposedly pro-information (but then took the lion's share of the credit for their sacrifice). He's been on Hannity, and had a cozy relationship with Nixonite Roger Stone. I just barely care enough to comment here. He can not expect me to organize for him. Maybe if he hadn't jumped on the Trump train, meme warred side by side with Mike Cernovich and helped run anti immigrant campaigns. Disaffected leftists that aide right wing ultraconservative populist movements are worse than fascists… If they don't get the Rohm treatment from their pepes then they get the guillotine.

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RAW: Furniture removed from Ecuadorian embassy amid reports of handing Assange over to UK

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he also had relations with, interviews, and frequently retweeted glenn greenwald, abby martin, noam chomsky, slavoj zizek, cenk uygur, jimmy dore

none of those people are communists, and in fact many of them are reactionaries and shills, so why should we care about that?

Not even the "victims" accuse him of rape. If you read the leaked allegations it's basically just him being a general asshole and sulking about having to use a condom. That's why the police never actually charged him. In my opinion it's 50/50 if it's a CIA honey trap or just sweds being sweds.