3d printed gun schematics

The based and redpilled ancaps at Defense Distributed just won a lawsuit against the US government for the right to publish ghost gun schematics online
why aren't you seeding the files yet Zig Forums?

fortune.com/2018/08/02/3d-printed-guns-code-free-speech/
thepiratebay.org/torrent/23755208/DEFCAD_Firearm_Complete_Files_-_3D_guns_Defense_Distributed
github.com/maduce/fosscad-repo

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Other urls found in this thread:

personaldefenseworld.com/2016/01/how-to-recycle-range-brass/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberator_(gun)
youtube.com/watch?v=1W-eFOOy1aM
youtube.com/watch?v=ACgnVmFaw1M
youtube.com/watch?v=iKgA6xGDu_c
freecadweb.org/
youtube.com/watch?v=13872p-UynI
blog.cheaperthandirt.com/polymer-good-idea/
imgur.com/a/JQgRY76
twitter.com/AnonBabble

So how long for a real gun?

We got a few years until the technology fully develops and becomes affordable

Are we realistically ever going to be able to build our own ammo?

Maybe but it seems that 3D printing atm will be more reserved for gun parts.
Right now it's cheaper/easier to recycle brass casings and cartridges.
personaldefenseworld.com/2016/01/how-to-recycle-range-brass/

5 years ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberator_(gun)

the schematics for the Liberator were released online in 2013, but it was promptly shoahed by the State Department and held up in legal battles for five years. While waiting for their court case to wrap up Defense Distributed was compiling gorillions of gun schematics. After their victory 3 days ago, they dumped everything online

Importantly, some guns only have a few controlled parts.
For example, the only regulated part of the AR15 is the lower receiver. IIRC any other component can be bought with no restrictions or background checks. So by 3D printing AR15 lower receivers, you allow anyone to have access to AR15s, provided they can scrounge the rest of the parts online.

woops, typo denied you a (you)

…you do know it's very easy to make your own ammo, right? Are you talking about 3D printing ammo or just making it? Because I can't imagine how you 3D print gunpowder or firing caps

Are you talking about the US here? I thought depending on state you guys can get anything.

Got any tutorials? Ofc you can't print them, that's why I'm asking.

Completely 3d printed guns like the Liberator and the developments coming from them are a total meme.

Plastic, by its very nature of being a plastic, is just not going to be decent in the high-stress parts of the gun, that is, anywhere holding the actual pressure of firing a bullet. It will never have rifling that amounts to anything useful because the rifling itself will deform and melt.

Non load-bearing parts like the receiver in the AR, magazines, accessories, sure. But you're always going to need the high-durability materials that you get from metals, or perhaps some kind of ceramic, for anything around the bullet.

Uh, people have been doing that for centuries dude. Producing home made gun powder and melting lead isn't rocket science.

The big deal with 3d printed guns is that
1)3d printers are becoming affordable
2)mass producing guns made out of plastic is much easier than the metal ones. That pans out much better to the rest of the world than to the pork.

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You could have at least linked to the shuty AP 9 (though it's not 100% 3d printed).
youtube.com/watch?v=1W-eFOOy1aM
youtube.com/watch?v=ACgnVmFaw1M

A true 100% 3d printed firearm will require cheap metal 3d printing, which isn't happening any time soon. In the mean time the best you can do is make composite firearms from machined metal and 3d printed plastic parts.

Or you can take a shot at someone with a single .22 round from a liberator and get your head kicked in…

I don't see why 3d printing is even needed. It can't be that hard to make firearms. We've been doing it for 500 years.

It's not that hard but it requires a degree of precision and skill beyond the average amateur fucking around with basic tools at home. You'll also have a hard time doing it if you don't have access to a garage filled with the right equipment, putting it out of reach of your average apartment dwelling urbanite. The thing about 3d printing is that if it were to become advanced enough, it would overcome both of these problems and allow for pretty much anyone to create a firearm with only a limited amount of knowledge and skill.

You know the forces involved in a bullet firing, right? 3d printer technology is the opposite of durable. Trying to 3d print a gun is asking for disaster.

Who was this comment directed at?
As for the durability of 3d printed parts: it really depends on the method and materials used. Some types of metal printing systems can print high quality parts, but they're really fucking expensive of course.

You are right that 100% plastic guns are shit. The liberator for example, is single shot.

But DD is also putting out schematics for CNC mills that allow anyone to mill gun parts at home with little required expertise. In retrospect I should have also included these in the title of the thread, as that is the more exciting development.

It mostly involves printing of lower receivers, which are the only parts federally regulated. You don't need to get an entirely plastic-composite gun

Where is that? Subtractive manufacturing metal parts allow for high tolerances but there is also another way, 3d print a metal casing that casts a metal part, some indutries do this but I'm not sure about the firearms industry.

I've often wondered about the viability of a "lost PLA" approach to casting metal parts for guns. You could 3d print cheap plastic parts and then use them to create molds for casting metal parts. Though this would be a pain with steel due to its high melting point, aluminium bronze may work as a substitute due to it's lower melting point, but you'd probably have to make the parts thicker to compensate for the lower strength of the material.

Lost PLA:
youtube.com/watch?v=iKgA6xGDu_c

Might be more trouble than it's worth though…

Well whats the point in that that? So we can have Trump team come kick down our doors.
This is a good ol honey pot thread.

I would rather kill myself then pick up weapons of colonizers we should be using sticks instead they are just as effective as guns.

This thread is just right wing propaganda.

LMAO go back to Zig Forums you absurd retard

I don't even think Cody is truly an ancap, he's like a weird contrarian mix of everything plus nihilist anarchism and mutualism.

How soon is soon? 50 years?

He's a strange guy for sure. I once saw an interview where he criticised makerspace types for "hugging the means of production" rather than seizing it, which is definately not a typical lolbert position.

Even cheap "desktop" metal 3d printing systems start at around $100,000US. I don't know long it will take for such systems to be affordable for the average person, but I doubt it's gonna happen in the next ten years. Probably won't take as long as fifty though.

Excellent. We need these.

Just buy a real gun?

Tbh, would much rather build guns than give money to the NRA. Helps develop skills, too.

Buy 'em secondhand

This is impossible for many people that don't live in burgerland. Guns in my country are pretty tightly regulated, there's a snowflakes chance in hell I could get my hands on one.

Normally I'd argue about how secondhand buying still creates demand, but this time I'll admit that such a thought process is more than a little counter-productive.

Start with basics. Either with this, or get a real CNC mill, or 5-axis CNC (milling machine and lathe 2-in-1). In the meanwhile, FreeCAD freecadweb.org/ is your friend.

There are some interesting desktop scale 5-axis CNC machines being developed at the moment. I'm not sure if there's any small affordable 5-axis CNC machines that can handle steel atm though. I'm pretty sure the CNC machine in this video can deal with aluminium at most:

youtube.com/watch?v=13872p-UynI

It'd be cool if I was wrong though.

You already give money to the NRA in your taxes, the gun companies that are part of the NRA are all just subsidies of defense contractors. You know, ones that build guns for the police and military.

This is why the entire liberal shitfight over the NRA is stupid and petty (and mostly done as a way of enforcing rich peoples' views on guns on everyone else), because it's all part of a larger war machine. It is also worth noting that before the M-16/AR platform liberals love to hate, America's military built their own guns at Springfield Armory. Yet nobody seems to even consider nationalizing or just rebuilding what was once America's oldest institution (and one which fed the market a steady supply of surplus weapons, which undercut the private sector).

Regardless of all that, a foreign brand like a Glock or Benelli won't have any NRA ties. I'd suggest Saiga but there is also that whole fight over Putin.

>Correctly.

Yeah, I didn't realize they got tax money directly from contractors - silly of me, really. I knew politicians used our tax money as a toy to get massive corporations to give the NRA free rides a la the Delta fiasco, but somehow neglected that the NRA would receive that same money directly, too.

S'pose I'll just buy foreign. Still think building is a good idea, though.

most likely melting lead and using gunpowder isn't going to work on the 3D guns OP posted. I'm guessing those ones are designed to work with cartridges and only have a firing pin instead of a fuze.

wouldn't it be now? pretty sure you can buy all the other AR parts without a gun license.
and as you see in OP's pic people have already figured out how to print a lower receiver.

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adding on to this
blog.cheaperthandirt.com/polymer-good-idea/

I'm pretty sure this wasn't what they had in mind.

yes
imgur.com/a/JQgRY76

More like yourgayr

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It's still not that simple in America either. I mean between affording gas, rent, food, car payments etc. I may never own a gun.

Because normal guns are cheaper and more effective.

You can get a hi-point for like $100. Put $5 a week away for a year.

Yeah I could afford something like that. But I have other problems in the way right now.

Once again this really only applies to america and a handful of other countries. Most of the world is a no guns zone. Not to mention that if a revolutionary situation were to develop, you can be sure the government would try to disarm you before thing got out of hand. Being able to manufacture our own weapons could help safeguard against that, as well as allowing no gun countries to actually have them.
Not to mention, large numbers of untraceable guns being made increases the likelihood of capitalists and politicians being assassinated by random nutcases, a situation that would instill a degree of terror in the ruling class (making it easier to win labour disputes for example).

The difficult part is procuring the primers, which are available from blank rounds. The bullet itself can be made by melting lead then pushing it through a die, the cartridge is simply a length of brass pipe and you can use phosporous from match heads in place of powder.

basically now. They can make pistols purely out of 3D printing, and like other user says, the other parts for the AR-15 are not considered "gun parts" and can be bought without a background check etc.
And metal 3d printing is coming along so soon they'll be able to just do the whole thing. Idk how long that is though.

Personally I think the left needs to go back to its Maoist roots and start creating pig-iron blast furnaces in our backyards.


Yeah there's a reason why most of the time when Cody Wilson is filmed shooting the Liberator, he's about 20 feet away behind an obstacle yanking a string tied to the trigger. I'd be worried about the gun blowing up and me losing a finger.

But can it print a 66 cm barrel that can withstand high tolerances?

Do you know how well that worked last time?

Oh come on. It'll be fun. I'm lighting up my blast furnace right now.

*whooooosh*

Gonna totally have the best pig iron on the block.

The majority of the globes leftists are more interested in gender pronouns and fighting age sharia Islamic "refugee" rights than the terminal ballistics capabilities of Lake City XM855 5.56 NATO 62 grain green tip steel core penetrator rounds fired out of a Sig braced 10 inch barrel with 7" twist rifling.

How the fuck can you ever win by shouting "mike Check" into a megaphone and shitting into storm drains during occupy protests?

The bullshit leftist larp in the United States and Europe is saddening. It is why I can only ever be a leftist in my heart, and a full on capitalist nationalist in reality because they are the only ones actively supporting my second amendment rights. Most Eurocuk nations refuse to honor and support the basic universal human right to self defense with firearms. They desire a government monopoly on force, and consider the people too fucking moronic to be entrusted with simple basic mechanical devices that are over 100 year old technology. How the fuck can you autists be entrusted with more advanced tech if you cannot even be trusted with fucking gunpowder, some polymer and basic metallurgy.

The basic universal human right to self defense is the only thing that gives me freedom.

Liberty has to be taken with force, and kept with force.

Rights are not gifts from government.

If the leftists had their way we would all be unarmed slaves begging for protection on our knees, devoid of free discussion, with science destroyed because mathematics was discovered by "Cis males".

No one fucking gifts rights and independence to you like a new iphone 10 numale battleroyal mobile game skin or whatever the fuck it is you millennial piles of shit spend your time and money on. Dragon dildos and tranny hormones.

You deserve everything that the right is about to pour into you when you finally push them too far.

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When you are going to realize that the reason you are impotent and a loser is because of capitalism and not because of muh minorities or whatever libcuck bullshit you believe? Just kidding I know you will never realize this because people like you end up in the ground during revolutionary struggles (then they suffocate to death of course.) You are already dead. Just look at who sides with the right in the west. All these old fucking faces, desperate for just a little more time before they are judged for a lifetime of living high off of imperialism without even lifting so much as a finger to stop it.

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You still don't get it do you cocksucker.
No one gives a rats as about your gender pronouns, your spook identity politics.
You refuse to study our species violent nature, their religious fanaticism, their insane lust and greed for wealth and power.

THE ONLY FUCKING THING THAT CAN STOP THEM IS TO BE HEAVILY ARMED!
And all of your friends being heavily armed.
And anyone you associate politically to be heavily armed.

You are not a green party, leftist, maoist, communist, Bunker, Bernie, Right wing, Proud boy, NutSac, Libertarian, anarchist.

You are what the statism enforcement agent with a rifle pointed at you tells you to be.
ONLY a fucking gun in return can stand against armed statism enforcement agents.

But no, the fucking leftists are pathetic unarmed nogun cunts in 95% of all leftists I have ever seen or talked with in my life. The fucking NuMale bugmen soydrinking millennials especially so. They are worse than a dirty hippy from the 70;s fucking on a Woodstock shit soaked farm patty music festival on acid.

They literally consider owning firearms to be fascism or nazism. And you fucking know this to be true.
Look at Venezuela. The subjects and slaves (not citizens) are banned and forbidden from owning handguns and rifles.
Same in China.
Same in the U.S.S.R. when it existed.
Same in every single fucking leftist attempt at governing.

Do you want to know why? Ill tell you. Because people are corrupt. No matter what form of governing they try. And the only way to hold that corruption in check is to shoot them in the fucking face when they attempt to disarm you.

Now look at the capitalist nationalist US. I, an atheist own an AR, AK, Shotgun, 7 pistols and revolvers, about 10,000 rounds of ammo and enough magazines to hold off a small force.

Picture this.
You are about to shoot up a baseball game where your most hated political opponents, those you believe are going to lead the planet into unimaginable death and horror, and you bring a fully functional dighted in ChiCom SKS rifle with enough ammo to feed it for 300 shots.

You have the advantage of surprise.
You have cover.
You have concealment.
You are shooting from a braced comfortable shooting position into older targets in a wide open space fenced in where they have no cover or concealment and dozens of yards in any direction to run anywhere.

And you succeed in attaining zero fucking kills.
Zero kills.

This is who you want to associate with/
Even your shooters are fucking bugmen soy drinkers.

Meanwhile, Anders Breivik manages to merc close to 80 fucking commies in jungle island warfare solo, while simultaneously blowing up the main government building.

I know which side I am choosing fam.
You can keep the bugs and soy.

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>might makes right everything
I don't see where this differs from socialist thinking.

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this stuff makes you sound deranged.

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Breivik killed children in some shitty camp, the baseball game scenario is harder since it requires more accuracy than picking off dumb kids.
Shooting isn't even that hard, I got medals in military for it after only like 3 months of few sessions in bootcamp……

Guns are scarily easy to use. Kids pay attention: That's why it's a good idea to be careful when handling firearms! But yeah it takes a few days to train the average person to a decent level of military proficiency. Working with a unit takes more work I think. A lot of military training seems to be about fitness and conditioning especially to the stress of combat.

This is why I roll my eyes at all this political gunchat and civil war hypothetical wank.


Holy hell this is deranged

Take your pills user, we're not liberals.

Don’t it’s a honeypot.

Fuck off

Someone's a fan :3