REPORT: ISIS Caught Using US Weapons

REPORT: ISIS Caught Using US Weapons

Article: independent.co.uk/voices/syria-missile-arms-deals-west-us-uk-saudi-arabia-a8459731.html

Secular Talk: youtube.com/watch?v=qEXARB7DMrw

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Imagine my shock

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80% of Syrians know that the USA created ISIS. Americans are delusional to believe otherwise.

dude holy shit stop fucking shilling secular talk here. I thought we made this apparent to you in your last thread but Kyle Kulinski is not a fucking socialist, he's a faggot succdem who isn't even as far Left as your average D/SA hipster. He's literally said himself that he's strictly a social democrat and that calling to abolish capitalism goes too far. He's like someone from the moderate wing of the SPD who occasionally has good opinions on war in the Middle East


Tbh he used to be somewhat popular here back when we were doing the whole 'let's try to push Left liberal talkshows until they are socialist by posting them here and invading their comment section/email' type thing that somewhat helped get Jimmy Dore to his current positions but Kulinski was firm as fuck about how he's not interested in socialism at all and just wants a massive welfare state

I am subscribed to secular talk so I heard about this article from him first. Linked to the video here in case anyone would prefer watching/listening to a video over reading.

I know he's not a socialist. Not once did I claim that he is a socialist or even an "ally" of socialists. I watch his news coverage the same way I would watch any other news program. Stop being such an autistic retard.

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This was reported on for fucking YEARS by non-"official" outlets. But now the bourgeois press ITSELF states the facts, the conspiracy is suddenly legitimized.

Yea dude us is a big fun of everyone hating them

REMINDER THAT THERE ARE -STILL- ANARCHISTS WHO SAY ISIS WEREN'T A US CREATION.

REMINDER THAT WE STILL HAVE IMPERIALIST APOLOGISTS ON THIS BOARD.

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Do more of those please, also post all you have

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It's not a US creation in the sense that daesh is exactly what the CIA wanted (America had spent years fighting their predecessors in Iraq and all) which remains a dumb conspiracy theory.

It is a US creation in the sense that they wanted regime change in Syria badly enough they armed whoever was willing to fight without asking too many questions, including explicitly Islamist groups, many of whom later defected to Daesh. (Also some of those arms are outright stolen AFAIK - the US-supplied Iraqi regime got routed more than once.)

Shouldn't you be banned?

Probably, given the meme-tier discussion of global events here after the "anti-imperialism" ban. Report me if my take is too nuanced for you, I don't mind.

You get banned because you never argue honestly and backpedal constantly. You never look at any evidence and instead try to amplify the tiniest fault in an argument, or failing that, attempt a red herring.

Are you talking about a different socialist flagposter? I mostly hang out on Zig Forums and haven't been here in months.

I've already said you're not honest so you'll never admit that you're the black cats retard.

That guy got banned, which is a shame tbh.

Good, he was a moron.

When? He was a good poster

>>>Zig Forums77646

What exactly is even being inferred here?

Bump

Oh no he has nuance what a fucking liberal

old shit

This. Nothing so far is conclusive proof that the US intentionally backed ISIS after 2014, since those weapons could have wound up in their hands by being traded for/taken from the Iraqi army or other rebels. I have no doubt that the US was supporting ISIS before they attacked Iraq in 2014 (either intentionally or by proxy), but it seems pretty clear that they bit the hand that fed them. Saudi Arabia and Turkey are another story though. The whole story about them using ISIS to justify an alliance with the Syrian Kurds and subsequent intervention is debunked by the fact that the Kurds are likely going to get a negotiated settlement with the Syrian Government which will in all probability force the US out. Not to mention the fact that by the time the US actually intervened against them in Syria, they were at the height of their power, and had the best chance of actually winning. Stopping one, strong proxy from winning a decisive battle like at Kobane just so you can get a much smaller, weaker proxy like the Kurds doesn’t make any sense to me.

I've watched him extensively for about three years. I honestly think he is strategically better this way. He serves as a massive stepping stone for many people, or even just a way to turn American conservatives and other right-wing liberals into socdems, which is better than being what they were before.

Nonetheless I will give you three points to know about him I have observed if you want to try moving him left somehow.

In other news the sky is blue.

Nothing we haven't known since 2015. The article is in relation to East Aleppo and HTS/Turkestani jihadists using CIA funded weapons, not ISIS.
And as said, the US sadly never directly funded daesh, in fact they almost wiped them out in 2009. Turkey and the Gulf States indirectly supplied and supported them. the SAA used them during the East Idlib campaign but that's about it.

In other news: wild bears found shitting in forest.

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You are liberals.

Reminder Muqtada Al-Sadr was literally allowed to teach theology and give sermons in US prisons in Iraq

Honestly I don't really care. There are already so many shitty things going on right now in the world that can only be dealt with through mass revolution. This is just another branch on the tree of shit that we are all aware of.

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It's called being hyperbolic you fucking ponce.

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The Brits allowed IRA prisoners to do the dirty protests IRA confirmed as British 4D chess proxies.

Read the article, user. It doesn't even mention ISIS. The jihadists they refer to are those in the last days of the battle of Aleppo, so HTS/Nusra, al-Zenki, the Turkestan Islamic Front, and a million splinter groups. It's well known that ""moderate"" vetted groups either sold their CIA weapons to those jihadists, joined themselves, or were captured in inter-rebel fighting. Basically the burgers backed al-Queda again but this time on accident.

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who would have guessed

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