r/neoliberal users collectively orgasm at the prospect of an illegal invasion of Venezuela. Among other gems in this thread are claims that Chavez 'had to be stopped' despite being a democratically elected (and overwhelmingly popular) leader, that the UN will declare any war illegal because of China and Russia so that means there's really no such thing as an illegal war, that an invasion would hurt the US's reputation so instead they should attempt a coup, and open joking about access to Venezuela's oil production for fuck's sake.
Scratch a neoliberal and a neocon bleeds. I also have no idea who 'Meganalisis' is, but I can't help but feel we should probably take their poll numbers with a grain of salt.
Of all the rightwing subreddits idk why this one seems the most cancerous to me.
Justin Allen
It's the most self-aware/in line with the establishment consensus.
All the fascist, racist, and Trump-supporting subs are basically just people who are high on ideology. Neoliberals, on the other hand, understand the conflict between labor and capital and they vigorously side with capital.
Henry Wright
because it's fedoratastic pseudointellectualism the ideology. le rational and logical policy is the best and capitalism is the most rational and logical but it needs le rational and logical keynesian limitations etc etc. at least Zig Forumsacks are proud anti-intellectual brainlets who pretend they live inside a videogame.
also whoda thunk?? obviously this means they want an armed invasion???
Nolan Flores
I guess you are both right. These guys think they are smart, while the conservatives and fascists are being blinded, these people blind themselves.
Ayden Edwards
A lot of right wingers say they're against foreign wars, emphasis on say - yet these cunts are openly imperialistic and proud of it. I'm not quite sure how to argue with a wealthy imperialist, like it's objectively in their best interest to do this heinous shit.
Colton Wood
And now you know why the purges and gulags were necessary. Class enemies can't be argued into submission. Only liquidated.
Andrew Flores
Meganalisis more like Mengelealisis
Parker Miller
Because unlike actual White Nationalists and Nazi LARPers, neoliberals hold actual power.
David Reed
Yeah but with the prospect of climate refugees on the horizon, the distinction between Nazis and neoliberals will fade. Nazis will mow down people trying to cross the border with machine guns while neoliberals sipping tea and saying "how unpleasant" like the American middle class did during the Filipino genocide.
Mason Phillips
From the same poll:
Open question: Which politicians do you oppose/disapprove the most? (You can name 3 people) Respondents say: "We oppose those who are in power, but we also oppose those who have let them stay there"
fascists have always been the attack dogs for bourgeoisie, when the going gets rough and things look bad they whip them out and set them on potential threats
All online communities are parodies. Especially those on Reddit I think.
Isaac Jones
() = notes at the bottom of the image (popular opinion)
Would you support an intervention in Venezuela from multiple countries, which would bring a lot of food and medicine with them for the Venezuelan people? (People in poorer neighborhoods are very hungry, and call for humanitarian help) Yes: 84.3% / No: 13.4% / No answer: 2.2%
Would you support a transition government, that would replace Nicolás Maduro's government and keep order in the country for a maximum of 2 years? (People want a government that can bring order, deliver justice and ensure that Venezuela be a dignified country, with social well-being, a future, and no hunger or shortages) Yes: 79.8% / No: 12.5% / No answer: 7.6%
What do you live on? 26.5% - Economic help from family in other countries (remittances) 35.7% - Help from family members still in Venezuela 12.4% - Current job 5.2% - A mix of the three answers above 2.2% - Other 17.9% - No answer
How many times a day do you and your family usually eat? 30.3% - One 28.5% - There are days where we eat nothing, or almost nothing 19.8% - Twice 3.1% - Three times or more 18.2% - No answer
What would you do if Maduro stays in power and the country's crisis continues? (People think mostly of two options: wait or leave) 34.7% - Stay and wait for something to happen 20.5% - Leave the country* 13.5% - Nothing, Maduro won't leave. 7.4% - Be in resistance until they leave 6.5% - Go to the streets to make Maduro leave 17.3% - No answer
*When will you leave? (out of the 20.5%) 1.1% - In what's left of September 14.0% - Before December 14.7% - Before April next year 17.8% - Between April and June next year 52.3% - Don't know
*Where will you go? (out of the 20.5%) 30.3% - Colombia 18.8% - Don't know 12.4% - Peru 9.8% - Ecuador 6.7% - Chile 4.5% - Argentina 4.4% - Europe (European Union) 3.3% - United States of America 2.5% - Brazil 5.0% - Other 10 countries in the American continent(s) Not included: 2.3%
Oliver Davis
It’s unironically shilled for by a 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧British🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 think-tank.
Isaiah Cook
They're a parody in the same way r/FULLCOMMUNISM is a parody, i.e., not at all.
Connor Hughes
Sounds like an antifa fantasy.
Tyler Perry
This. Nazis are far too busy in America's police departments and ICE to bother patrolling the border in that way. Anyways if the US gets really desperate they can just get the Mexican government to get rid of the pesky migrants before they get close to the border.
Dominic King
What did they mean by this?
David Morgan
Venezuela jails 34 store managers on charges of price gouging
They sanctioned government officials and PDVSA/govenrment debt. Foreigners can still buy PDVSA oil without issues.
Ian Roberts
Zizek would argue they themselves are the highest on ideology in that they think they recognize “dae hard trufs”
William Wood
This. The purest form of ideology as Zizek describes it is taking value-laden, highly politicized concepts or positions, and presenting themselves as non-political or post-ideological. Shit like "capitalism is just common sense" is the most sublime form of ideology.
the rulers of america have been white nationalists since its foundation
Leo White
The USA was made to be a MUH HUWHITE ETHOSTATE…but you know. Capitalism has a nice way of making it so you need to wage Imperialism in order to keep it alive which causes people to move in because you make their nations be shit and mess with demographics.
Aiden Carter
here's the origin of that quote.. Just some guy called DarkShikari on some BBS a long time ago. Not Voltaire, sadly. Be sure to post this whenever appropriate to remind others that irony is very fleeting
Dude tell me about it. Knowing a person IRL who gets his opinions from that cancerous place makes me hate it even more. it’s genuinley the worst place on Reddit and even the leftist subreddits fucking annoy me.
Lucas Ramirez
Right now it's rainbow capitalism terrorizing the world.
Justin Walker
This quote is from Hackernews, which is essentially the opposite of what the quote describes, i.e. pretentious morons pretending to be smart until the actual smart people all left.
Henry Hill
Rolling for everyone in Venezuela to die.
Carson Morris
Rolling again.
Mason Miller
But how shall it be the case that the next time communism is tried it won't be yet another fucking disaster? That is the question. By what mechanism. Not promises, not "don't worry, it will have the features". No more vaporware communism.
Tyler Jackson
Venezuela should be used as an example of what happens when you fall for the social democracy/reformism meme.
Juan Smith
It may very well be a disaster. Anything could be, that is simply a fact of life. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try. It is not like getting rid of feudalism was easy.
Michael Lopez
First comment is:
Second comment is:
Not a fan of reddit or neoliberalism, but I'm not sure that this constitutes a collective orgasm.
James Robinson
It really should, it's the only example of social democracy actually leading to any kind of meaningful progress towards socialism.
"The USSR was a jewish plot." – Anonymous 13 years old poster
Colton Butler
any nazi group worth a shit should discharge him for believing a former jewish nkvd stasi bolshevik zio-agent
Jayden Myers
He was a lead x264 developer. You know, that program that everyone who knows what "encoding" is has used.
I'm pretty sure that the articles are intentionally misinterpreting the word "intervention". The "support a transition government replacing Maduro" figure isn't too far from that, but there's still no clarification of how they want him to be replaced (as they're obviously not thinking about voting again in fucking 2024)
