Have you all noticed how rightists make the struggle between left/right and nationalists vs "globalists" to be the...

Have you all noticed how rightists make the struggle between left/right and nationalists vs "globalists" to be the ultimate struggle,
but any time in history and currently when there are two right-wing/fascist nations living near each other, and there's no bigger left-country to hate together (Like ussr), they fucking hate each other and are ready to go to war/probably will go to war
They don't realize that 9/10 times in history nationalism is just used to get you to go fight other nationalists who they'd probably be friends with under other circumstances

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Forgot your shiposting flag?

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Nationalism is just a nineteenth century meme that the bourgeoisie use to secure their home market and rally the proles to kill each other

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Because most of these people confuse local vs global sovereignty. What most "nationalists" want is the ability to have a greater impact in the laws and traditions of the place they live. This is why the same people will be in strong support of states rights vs federal control. They're republicans in the most literal sense of the term. They feel a stronger sense of shared values with their neighbors compared to people on the other side of the country, so they value a system where they can vote with their neighbors only to exert more control the system that is imposed on them. If everyone across the entire planet could vote for X, that includes lots of radically different cultures with radically different values that might be completely at odds with yours (e.g. a global vote on given women the right to drive might get voted down, whereas in most "western" nations, it would be passed easily), which decreases the relative leverage your individual vote has on policy.

*confuse local vs global sovereignty with nationalism vs globalism

Fascism/right-wing thought is inherently expansionist, there will never be two nations coexisting next to each other that share that ideology. It tells you that you're the most deserving of Land and resources, you should be the conqueror, and so on. It eats itself in this way every time.

What about nationalists living in a relatively small unitary country, not a federation?

If the country is small, then they already enjoy the political leverage of a small electorate. What they want is to maintain that local soverignty, likely because they fear larger, neighboring nations don't share the same values as they do, and don't want to see those values overpower their own if they get lumped into a larger state.

wtf I love low Autism Level poc now

come one come all
all PoC welcome here

*play or get played you dumb naive children, your Marxist pipedream of international solidarity never was*

What the fuck are you talking about you dumb nigger? Globalism is capitalism.

fuck you
fuck PoC
and fuck capitalism that brought them here

My point is that it's funny that "Globalism" is the boogeyman of the right. When even if it was somehow defeated (impossible because it's grasping at shadows), nationalists would start WW3 with eachother anyways

also it's funny when american nationalists say for example russian nationalists and hard rightists in a random country are "based" when they will be baying for each others blood in a generation, or as soon as their national capitals are in competition over some resource or market dominance

Modern internet "nationalism" is a weird phenomenon which is ironically incredibly globalized and Americanized. It's bit funny watching Euros larp as Americans, memeing about Trump and owning democrats ebic style, while calling themselves "nationalist"

man where have I seen this before

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It makes sense really. Fascists want to ossify society and reinforce "traditional" hierarchies. America has dominated the world as the de facto hegemonic power for at least 30 years. Their rule is coming to an end and America's beneficiary states (or rather the national bourg in those states) are beginning to feel the sting. Without America most third world "success" stories (i.e. nations that produced profits via austerity and collaboration with American imperialism) will implode. The super-profit financed socdem states of Europe will have to actually balance their own budgets, which will produce even more political uncertainty and suffering from those who for so long had lived off of the stolen essence of others.

DUH DUH DUH HELICOPPPTERS GET REKT LIBTARDS EPIK STILE!!!!!!!111!1!

you are a fucking capitalist

Good. I'm tired of living in the empire.

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Holy shit you're fucking retarded christcom. The European socdem states have literally been forced into austerity policy due to EU treaties long before imperialism ever ended. Even Germany implemented massive cuts in their welfare state before the 08 crash. You are historically illiterate.

Doesn't that further entrench his point tho, I mean that'll mean it's gonna be even worse than he predicts

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tfw. wouldn't notice a positive feedback loop if it fucked him in the face. kys you'reself nigger.

This is a great illustration of a failure of liberal ideology. Some things simply can not be reasonably talked out. Some people want bad things, and although it is regrettable things turned out that way, the only option is conflict. Not necessarily war, per say, but a battle outside of the liberal construction of """peace""", wherein most are subjected to a terrible and longlasting but serene destruction.

Literally how many layers of fascism are you on that it is good when one fascist drstroys the other instead of attacking its "true" enemies? Seriously, I need a qualitative analysis of your ideology. What fucked your head like this?

Expansionism is innate though. If it wasn't, we would have lingered around in one place before eventually and inevitably going extinct. We wouldn't have seven billion people on earth if we sat around and sang Kumbaya all day.