ITT: leftist "theorists" who should have never theorized

Frankfurt School. They literally turned Marxism from a revolutionary science to an academic field of study. Fuck that.

mao

This

The whole post at is a bad take, even Chomsky. As expected of Maoism.

Foucault

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Marcuse
Foucault
Derrida

The New Left was a mistake. It was a lesson in how to take the active and militant movements of the late 60s, completely squander it in a decade and open the door for the reign of neoliberalism that we're now living in, and a lot of that rests at the feet of these fuckers.

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there's nothing "New Left" about Marcuse.

Foucault was not "Left" in any way either.

Why Cockshott?

Bordiga has to be the worst theorist I've read.

This. Foucault played around with Maoism but was always a liberal.

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This. Sniffman is alright tho

Marcuse and Foucault are nothing alike methodologically.

Bordiga is so spooked that is lovely.

you mean the fraud pleb conductor?

Chomsky's politics have sucked ever since Foucault gave him a mental ass whopping.

This, Post Modernists are against the Marxist-Hagalien concept of linear history. By being against linear history they are empowering reactionaries and occultists.
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This, the little jew Karl Marx.

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frankfurt school, marcuse, adorno, fromm, foucault et al.
they are the cause of the sjws/liberals and greens who almost killed the left.
as a german i also have to particularly name hermann gremlitza and his zionist/anti-german konkret/bahamas ilk.

stop hating noam chomsky, sanders and similar socdem types. chomsly might not be a revolutionary and has some rather liberal views with regard to the soviet union, however he is definitely a proper leftist. nobody is perfect, he is a truly good person and actually one of the most valuable intellectual assets the whole political left has.

This. Stirnerfags are by far the WORST people on the left.

Protip: anyone who prioritizes Jewish mystical bullshit over DiaMat or Hegel WILL fail Marxism.

Negri, Jodi Dean, Foucault, basically anybody else who ever references some vague "the people", "the disadvantaged", "the gays" and various subcultures as the potential revolutionary subject instead of the working class. Pomo spastics in general.
isn't even theory, unless you are thinking of linguistics. He writes a lot, but 99 % of that is just tedious listing of bad shit countries (mostly the US) are doing, with very little commentary in that. What would criticism of that "theory" even be? Denial that the bad shit occurred? That response is almost always wrong. Saying it's naive to compare what politicians are saying with what they are doing and then noting the difference? Then you probaly aren't the intended audience. Or correctly bringing up some factually wrong statements by Chomsky, which is, considering he's been doing his thing for over half a century, a very small collection of anecdotes that has been brought up again and again (like his very early Pol Pot commentary), and that will bring you the applause of ruling class hacks who have no qualms mixing that with exaggerations and bullshit?

Frankfurt School was the exact opposite of that. "Cultural Marxism" is an intentional lie by American reactionaries, it's aimed at people who don't read books.

Bob Avakian

Anyone with a personality cult probably sucks theory wise.

material relations are a linear development. just because society occasionally suffers regression it doesn't prove otherwise.

Althusser and all his students including Poulantzas, Foucault, Derrida, Ranciere, and yes even Badiou and Balibar. Laclau and Mouffe are a given but OP already acknowledged them.

Give reasons.

Twitter idpol brainlet

I wasn't saying they were.

regardless your post is shit

Good:

Shit:

No it isn't. The New Left is shit and these philosophers are shit. I wasn't implying that the New Left was some kind of hivemind, simply that by moving to the right, away from Marx, they had betrayed our movement and are a good reason why we're so weak.

What's your opinion on Althusser? He's like the Aquinas/al-Ghazali of Marxism IIRC.

Real Talk.

Frankfurt School was the worst thing ever.

Why all this hate for the Franks?

this board is like 90% Maotists now

On what basis would a Maoist hate the Franks though? What about their methodology pisses off Maoists so much?

The fact that they don't look at material conditions so autistically.

Because they aren't ya boi and best president

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Benjamin and Adorno were both anti-Hegel though, just like Maoists. That's a similarity, right?

Benjamin and Adorno aren't one divides into two theory right? That's the line that matters

you've a deal to say, clearly, but you choose to shy away from elucidating any actual points about the 'New Left'. This is not in defense of the post-structuralists, it's only that you've wholesale rejected an umbrella term which compromises a large number of works and an even greater milieu of thinkers

A large contingent of posters are former Zig Forums, so I'm not certain but that could play a role. Also, the dogmatists tend to take issue with variance in the understanding of the dialectical process, and so view the work of the anti-positivists, such as the Frankfurt School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, as a glaring example of revision of what they perceive as orthodox Marxist philosophy. Without shilling too hard for my particular understanding, the critiques against the Frankfurt School is usually pedantic and extremely shallow - vague gesticulations at some great tragedy of leftist theory, spurning the 'right and proper order of things' and the like.

You better start talking sense, boy, cuz you're way off in left-field right now.

I don't know Benjamin but how the fuck was Adorno anti-Hegel? He made some criticisms of his language but that's about it.

In Negative Dialectics Adorno says Hegel leads to fash.

I'm not sure what translation, what edition, what whatever you were reading, because Adorno was simply redefining dialectics which he thought were ambiguous - that universality cannot be borne out from a totalizing or teleological basis. He talks about fascism as an instance of this, but he did not (read: absolutely did not) imply that Hegelian dialectics were a one-way street to fascism.

Fucking how, he literally agrees with Hegel that a "better" society so to speak applies concrete universals.

Althusser is cool tho.

reddit socialists are trained to hate Althusser because it refutes base and superstructure.

Why?

These two.

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Freddy Perlman
Just read his piece on nationalism, where he completely misunderstands the concept of primitive accumulation, claims Marx didn't write much on the subject, nevermind the whole fucking chapter in Capital. Then he goes on to compare Lenin to Hitler and expropriated kulaks to murdered Indians.
All in all, my noggings are jogging at extreme high velocity right now.

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technology and transphobia are bad

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*𝘳𝘶𝘪𝘯𝘴 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨*

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This.

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ITT: people who are yet to read their first 500 pages in their lives criticize thinkers who wrote thousands.

I'm not trying to be demeaning or anything, but there are no actual arguments in this charade of a thread.

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>Against His-Story
Pure ideology.

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His definition of populism is the only good one though

Kropotkin and Bakunin.

Anarchism will always get crushed by outside forces. It has never, and will never work. Especially not today.

Deleuze and Guattari are far more to blame for tumblr, than Marcuse.

americans need to be shot.

Why Deleuze?

This dude was responsible for the massive failure of the Second International. Luckily Lenin put him in his place.

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Holy fuck, I was waiting for someone to post this POS.

Mouffe is the only competent left-wing theorist today.

Might have also said Proudhon.

Who cares whether reactionaries are "respected" by other reactionaries?

People who think "respected philosopher" means anything as far as we're concerned need to be shot.

his historical introduction to Utopia is pretty good tho

ANYONE who advocates social democracy.

They disagree with linear history.

Any theorists who are solely based on philosophy or any Hegelian Marxists.

Because Jews have never believed in linear time. Everything in Torah happens in either circles or spirals.

Pretty much all western theorists from the late 1940s onward have been awful. Most are simply shoving shit into Marx instead of developing theory.

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Rocker
Chomsky
Proudhon
Kropotkin
Bookchin
Camus
Goldman
Marx
Mao

Didn't Camus support colonialism?

eh, more like he acknowledged some parts of the world are so stuck in the 12th century they need a helping hand to get on their feet.

Also, you're retarded and should go back to r/socialism.

Everyone who went outside of scientific economic theory should have kept marx' name out of their mouth.

2nd Internationale, pls go. read korsch

Mao and westerners who shilled for his shitty theory are objectively the worst.

Kropotkin's takedown of bourg ideology at the beginning of the Bread Book was pretty based though.

brainlet tier opinion tbqh. Kropotkin is the go-to for anthropological Marxism.

any feminist

fuck off cockshott dickrider, keep your white boy technosocialist utopia to yourself
transphobia is a huge problem in certain sectors of the left and the rest of us have every right and reason to shut it down
patriarchy is incompatible with communism, unless you're in this for the red flags and tanks. asshole

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Literally everyone whom this board has shilled for in the past. Surprised you didn't mention Debord or Kropotnut.

you're an embarrassment to Stirnerfags.