Why do you push away "IDPOL"? Also, has anyone converted any? How?

When you can gain further support for the class struggle and build their knowledge.. make them think even if they attack you. You could recruit some… never know.

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Because it's literally COINTELPRO subversion

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Online discourse was dominated by radical liberalism before this place took hold so I would imagine conversions have been plenty.

you dont need to really try, just try. i dont like identity politics that much either but sometimes it's "necessary". but not radical liberals.

i think it was started by white feminists honestly,…. but yr theory has merit

I think you fail to realize how much priority idpol gets in media traffic, it's effectively suppressive. you can't let it dominate political discourse, otherwise we lose by default.

The majority of idpolistas are radical liberals, a key part of separating radlibs and socialists is being able to differentiate between who is using leftist jargon as a cover for social liberal beliefs and who is using leftist jargon because they're a socialist.

I mean I dont mean let them into our circles I just meant personally have discourse with them… to then let them in IF they reveal themselves to truly believe.

This image loses all validity every single time I get to the part where it starts defending Bernie Sanders.

Clinton lying through her teeth about who enforces systemic racism (the fucking banks) makes my blood boil though

i know that, where you tryna go with this?

Bernie may be retarded, but he is still a victim of subversion for suggest the working class deserves anything.

yup. I think these "buzzwords" all have merit though however are separated between so many groups of "who has the most oppression" rather than we are all oppressed, lets deal with it TOGETHER. which could have an easy road to… anti-capitalist if explained…

I don't know, sounded like you were trying to work on radlib lost causes. You can get better returns on getting right wingers to read Marx to prove him wrong.

Fred Hampton was the most based and redpilled guy in this nation and Zig Forums would still call him an idpoler

economic justice falls under social justice too, it's just that social oppression is intersectional - so it must be addressed. I do find it depressingly typical that it is mostly cishet white males who oppose these diverse movements, and that this category has been said to gatekeep a lot of power in society, rly makes me think that there is some type of position they're unconsciously protecting. It would be interesting to hear opposing positions on social justice, besides the PC aspect of it since I already reject this tendency. Do you really think that that SJWs are anti-marxist? I feel like they simply lack theory to articulate their cultural analysis which can lead to unclear thinking, but their hearts are in the right place, I feel.

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epic strawman, now fuck off

Wrong. Fuck off back to reddit.

t. opportunist minority wrecker

I don't care if 'their hearts are in the right place", complaining about what should or shouldn't be culturally taboo is not helping anybody in the slightest. they are severely misguided.
If they can't see the error of their ways they have serious problems that are out of my scope or depth, maybe they need a therapist.

We have literally never done this, in fact most anons find him to be anti-idpol and the reason he was killed.

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Obviously it had nothing to do with the fact the Black Panthers were spreading class-consciousness

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Alright let's ban race-mixing and homosexuality again, amirite?
Nice upper class college educated opinion my man

That's kind of what I was saying though, their focus was on class and not specifically identity. They reached out to poor people of all strips and were universalist in their message, which was dangerous because they were breaking down the divisions the government was trying to push.

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the fascists are not taking over, you absorb to many Clintonite spooks
where's your argument?

Don't you have a thread to post in about how it's okay to say "nigger" to black people?

IdPol is a meaningless floating signifier to label witches you'd like to burn

literally noone gives a fuck. take your revisionist politics back to your circlejerk.

basically

ignore him

Don't you have the entirety of the internet to be a whiny, social climbing, performative woke bitch in? You fucking nigger.

you're a counter-revolutionary. doesnt matter how much you think you're a badass edgy kid. you're not offering anything to the conversation. please stop.

Donald Trump retweets the phrase "cultural marxism" like once a month. We have for our entire existence been a nation built on white supremacy and imperialism. Hillary and Bill Clinton are both. Why would you think I support either?

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You have to go back.

sounds counterrevolutionary. sounds like yr against the education of the working class AND you sound like a trump supporter or even a radical liberal.

cool. bye

You showed me.

pleb

Well, I don't deny these people their freedom of association and modes of self-governance, even concerning the black nationalism of anti-racist groups. It only makes sense that emotionally sensitive people will band together for internal survival (life is traumatic, so refucing it's carnage is rational for mental health preservation), as long as they don't deny me my personal freedoms then I'm fine. Even with all this panic over SJWs, I'm still not seeing a restriction in my internet freedoms to say whatever I want. (A permanent solution to that would be public ownership of course.)

yeah, as I said, they lack essential socialist theory, but that isn't a major problem - they aren't as lost as the alt-right or anything.

Okay, now this is epic.

the only reason "cultural Marxism" is taken seriously is because of idiots like you who misrepresent Marxism.

complaining about manspreading isn't revolutionary

Yikes!

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I'm not making any points about liberty, the problem is these people dominate the media and turn the left-right dialectical into a fucking shitshow

there focus was on class with a point in preserving identity through community programs and education…. class-consciousness without uplifting the brown is bullshit. classist soft-socialism

Why do people think I'm a Nazbol guys?

false flagging? this is a new low, reddit

lol

Why does leftypol think you're a radlib, fam?

This is the argument that justifies the holocaust.

Go into trades, no on cares. Nigger, like any word, requires context. If I called some random person on the street a faggot, whore, asshole, bitch, fuckboy, motherfucker, slut, cocksucker, coon, cumskin, spic, chink, or nigger they would probably get mad at me, and rightfully so. But saying those words with no intent of offense and with friend while shooting shit shouldn't be treated as racist, otherwise my entire "multi-ethnic" or diverse, whatever you faggots call it now would be very, very racist.

you realize there's an in-between between being a literal buzzfeed-spewing SJW and a literal psychopathic nazi right?

How could someone justify something that never happened?

Every white Zig Forumslack says this but I've been to Zig Forums meetups and I know how you people are about swearing in public.

It's not really victimhood when you get off to being cucked.

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Pic related, it's the Zig Forums commander.

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Excuse me, what the fuck are you talking about? Class consciousness implies you want to lift ALL of the working class up, why would "the browns" be left behind?

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ignore this person. theres like 3 people trying to derail this thread. or maybe one bored loser. IGNORE,

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fuck off Zig Forumsnigger

this is what happens when you make a thread about identity politics. it's the only realm where right-wing brainlet opinions can be taken seriously.

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nah, the media is privately owned by the bourgeoisie to create a narrative of leftists being farcical and unreasonable as a display of right-wing reaction to solidify fascism.

I mean this is basic propaganda stuff, look at Tommy Robinson for example, he is a crypto-Jew zionist who has created this narrative that all muslims are evil, by pointimg to a few examples of religious extremism. Why do we say "not all muslims", but not "not all SJWs"? everything we see in the media has a bourgeois plot behind it, you can't abandon the proletariat because they might be a bit confused. Don't forget that a lot of this is college kids, they're allowed to make mistakes.

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Dude, I just said I went to trade school, how does that a line to being a Zig Forumsyp? I'm not even fully white and even if I was, why would that even matter?

Well, that was out of Zig Forums field

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They still can't be taken seriously, and I'm not sure why you think they can.

well, fred hampton wasn't exclusively just "LETS LIFT CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS FOR ALL WORKER." Period, It was more extensive with a focus on brown people as that is who he connected with and his family… etc we can see class consciousness without uplifting the brown in th USSR.. Cuba under Castro… Che…. a lot of anti-black and/or ignorant socialist leaders.

yes I'm sure Trump is working very hard to attack the innocent little nazis :^(

because SJWs somehow manage to double down on their retardation instead of actually refuting any bullshit they spew

BROWN 👏🏿 PEOPLE 👏🏿 ARE 👏🏿 SOCIALISM 👏🏿

yeah, i figured it would be some upset hardcore separatist white ML's but it seems just to be someone/s from POL.

That's adorable.

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join the BDS if you care so much about not eating Zionist poopie, but you don't because you're simply a self-loathing retard who's lashing out at everything blindly

i think the point they were trying to make was that we can't let their politics rule our politics in our media… we can't let radlibs enter into leftism with "cultural marxism".

stop replying to the TROLLLLLLL

We need socialism - but just for the white guys.

You delude yourself in your own self righteousness.

Excuse me, WHAT? I can't remember any of those place discriminating economically against "the brown". Maybe Che had some negative early opinions, but he never physically discriminated or oppressed "the brown". Seriously, what the fuck are you on.

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Fuck I'm sorry it's 3:00 in the morning and I can't help it, I'm easily baited

But they make independent media, it's not like there is a limited space on the internet for leftist content - the sorry fact is that more people are interested in conservative-liberal content than marxism, if we figured out how to make marxism more popular in media then we could get the revolution underway.

well Stalin/Lenin/Castro/Che didn't discriminate against brown people as far as any legislation but they did nothing to combat racism in the USSR/CUBA and use brown people as props "THE USSR/CUBA IS GREAT!!!! NO RACISM". But many brown people that went there left because of this.

How am I a troll again? user from here . I've literally said this before on this board not even a month ago.

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i dont think anyone's saying that but identity is important and I don't think alot of white people understand this when this entire society is… their identity per say… they dont have to worry about the preservation of identity. but we shouldnt make seperate groups for these specific identities…

I think you said it a few days ago actually.

I don't stay on sites that upset me. I was browsing 4/pol/ before you were born. If you think you're offending me, feel free to keep posting.

I assumed you were a Zig Forumslack because
Is a very specifically fascist justification for racism.
Oh please, that's why people let you get away with it.

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why are we still responding to trolls

I am SICK and TIRED of the NAZBOL TROLLS who are trying to take THE BROWNS OUT OF SOCIALISM

SOCIALISM WAS INVENTED BY JOSEF STALIN - A PROUD NUBIAN PRINCE

Shame on all the historical revisionists who are trying to WHITEWASH the based black man JOSEF TREYVON STALIN!!!

It has to be true because it has so many other followers

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Reddit's calling.

well this has been fun folks. i sincerely hope the trolls grow up and moderators start dealing with them.

I hope they deal with you first