If you don't have a strong foundation of theory your 'movement' is just shit

'Radical' feminists spend more time defending their shitty little Womyn clubhouse from the evil trannies than they do actually advocating for women. They'll comb through thousands of pages of history for find evidence that a woman did something before a man and not read a single page of actual revolutionary theory. For a movement supposedly bent on empowering women and liberating them from the patriarchy, the majority of their time online seems to be centered entirely around men: hating them, berating them, belittling them, and jilling each other off about how superior women are to men. Of course, then they turn around and demand that men do more to help women, why aren't men doing more for women, women can't succeed without you stupid, violent, childish men. Then because they aren't really interested in doing anything themselves and their liberation isn't being brought to them by the men they hate they just sit around bitching about how oppressed they are.

This same pattern plays out across the majority of "radical" queer and black blogs too, except in addition to men add "cis" and usually "white."

All 'radical' movements that have survived the 20th century are nothing but clawless liberal feelgood trash focused almost entirely on narcissistic self gratification via meaningless forms of 'resistance.' Feminism, intersectionality, queer theory, it's all liberal trash and should be dumped in a bin and set on fire.

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Citation? Which ones exactly are you talking about? Literally all of them?
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Infact, you're going to really have to back up everything in this whole nonsense rant. Let's start with something simple, what do you think a radical feminist is?

Radical feminists are generally directly opposed to a lot of this stuff, you understand that, yes?
Is this Zig Forums or is /lefytpol actually just this retarded?

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I share the sentiment.

I think he's just talking about you.

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Not just that, but they keep on splitting into smaller and smaller, irrelevanter and irrelevanter little sects as time goes by. They have no real, meaningful praxis. It's all about symbolically aligning yourself with the current twitter/facebook shittery (swerf, terf, third wave vs. fifth dimensional feminism, etc.) than doing anything meaningful.

And when they move out from their online lairs they usually do it for sake of performing a bitchfight pulling each others hairs or doing a half naked performance against "patriarchy" nobody gets triggered by anymore.

t. never-been-outside guy.

cite this *grabs duck*

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Wow, so you're a literal child and you're trying to tell us how people are in the world? Are you for real mate?! When you grow up a little you will find that most women in radical orgs, etc. are in fact (*gasp* radical) feminists. Many women were turned onto radicalism through feminism.
First i thought this was just a dumb Zig Forums strawman but it turns out you're just a child that's divvy enough to legit think twitter represents anything in the real world. GJ on buying the lie, moron.

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he spoke in the past tense. people in their early 20s are common here.
as well,
This is bullshit.
Everyone uses social media shit now. Its normal now. Anyone who actually doesn't is some kind of freakish hermit. And breaking down the distinction between IRL shit and internet shit was part of the process of it becoming normal. Read the air on normalfag sites and its translateable to normalfag sentiments IRL.

Facebook, maybe. But few actual people that arn't shutins or middle class students are using it to advocate there nonsense. Twitter really isn't popular among regular people.

I literally never see any of this shit in the real world, literally no feminists that i know or that i have read talk about any of the things you lot present as there beliefs. The only ppl are literally just confused middle class kids that are entierly irreverent in the real world if you arn't on some campus.

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As a freakish hermit I can confirm that this is true. On my gravestone it will read (or would if I wasn't a loner living alone in a grotto) Here lies A Freakish Hermit. He never posted on twitter."

That's a really weak position my dawg. Lots of these fags on the alt right "never see" racism, or sexism, or whatever. Your personal experience is faulty and at best a single data point from which to draw correlations.
First, "some campus" is in the real world you bumblechump. Second, they won't be on "some campus" forever, you absolute weedlebrow.

You're the same kind of spazmotron that says 'sjws don't exist in real life no one actually cares' when that shit is all over the place in some form or another. It seems like you're the one that doesn't ever go outside.

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monthly active twitter users: 326 million
US population as of 2017: 325.7 million
IRL people have to be polite in mixed company. people restraining themselves when talking to people who might not be fully on board with their ideology is not a sign that they dont believe whatever crazy thing. I dont go on about socialism to acquaintances and coworkers, they might get the impression that im just some kind of a leftist, assume im a dem or something. just a regular liberal, not some crazy communist or something.

Lots of people are on some campus somewhere. Lots of those people will then leave some campus and go into some workplace.
What the fuck is the "real world", to you? The "real world" you're talking about is a shit meme. "The REAL world", as opposed to the parts of it you aren't familiar with or dont care about or dont want to admit exist.
How are any of the feminists you know any more a part of the "real world" than some student, or some 25 year old recently graduated student? And in what way are either of the latter any less involved in the "real world"? Is it because the feminists you know meet up at some book club? Or go to protests to stand around with signs?
The closest you got to making a valid point was that this shit is most popular with young people and most of them will probably abandon it eventually.

Yes, they will grow up and go into some profession and none of us will ever hear from them again. Like, do you think they'll be even pretending to be on the left after uni? lol…

Again, i can tell you that i've been pretty involved in and surrounded by the left in my life and it's just marginal uni kids, they simply are not this threat that you not/pol/'s keep making them out to be. Idk what else to tell you, dude

Why are you all so obsessed with what students do? honestly..

Young university educated middle class people. You realise most everyone else thinks of these people as a joke, right?

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Not using social media is the 2010s version of not owning a TV. I say this as someone who doesn't use social media.

This point will be pretty hard to swallow for the college kids on this board who have to see this shit whenever they try to get involved in anything leftism-related in real life, you know.
And I dont say that in support of your argument.

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Luckily for me i couldn't care less about middle class people playing radical to piss off there parents.
A. If they want to go do that then fine, but they really need to stop pretending there little retard bubble is at all representative of feminism, etc.
B. If they're to much a bunch of pathetic pussies to tell a bunch of wrecker idpols wreck everything then what fucking good even are they going to be to movements when they leave uni and presumably attempt to join organizations, etc?

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Do you even know what words mean?
radical feminists = 2nd wave.
idpol = 3rd wave.

This really is very basic, read a fucking book, user.

You are such an ignorant bitch

And you're an idiot. I tend not to waste my time being polite to disingenuous mongoloids.
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Do you guys want to have an argument or do you want to start using hurtful language? Pick one or the other, but I don't come to fucking Zig Forums to read people calling each other "idiot" when there's a whole lexicon available.

What did you mean by this? Uni isn't just for the middle class now.
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Cool. Why is that?
Okay. So what feminist theory would you like to critique? What's your source. So your critique can be verified?

Screen cap some radlibfemfagnigs blogs I dont come across many. Link up some libgen lit that demonstrates your point. Post a pdf. I dont disagree with your all you can eat trash bin of ideology. However, you've been too vague, and overtly quaralsome over being slighted by a comradess, whom has lacked the eloquence and brevity, to get you to spill the beans in one post.

thenation.com/article/does-feminism-have-class-problem/

Succdem trashfire, but good analogy of the failures of 'trickle down feminism'.

source: literally every single "feminist" blog, platform, or media outlet

feminists eat trash all day and are then like "prove we don't eat trash" as garbage falls out of every orifice. it's idpol and misandry from hell to sunday and anyone that calls themselves a feminist should feel embarrassed.

read an actual book, kiddo.

subscribe to a better ideology femshit weakling

you guys keep this comical antagonization of an inherently inclusive concept with inflammatory language and then cry when nobody wants to listen to your ideology, it's like watching an ape shoot itself in the foot

Reminder again, if someone needs to put some adjective or descriptor in front of them being a socialist/communist, it should shoot up warning flags. Being a socialist already means you are against the capitalist system which allows real material, structural, and economic inequality to exist. To add some other descriptor is at best an oxymoron and at worst placing the descriptor as the main focus rather then capitalism. This applies to any number of descriptors related to sexuality, sex, gender, race, etc. We're already for the liberation of the entire working class, why would we need to specify certain groups of it? Might as well put every descriptor in existence in front of socialist or communist like some retarded clusterfuck Nazbol meme.

We just call that feminism.
t. rest of the world

People have pressing problems that can't wait for a far off socialist revolution which almost certainly won't happen in their lifetimes. Even if it did, we've seen that simply establishing a socialist government does not automatically lead to the elimination of every prejudice and inequality.

Not sure what you meant by this, most modern feminist thought is sex worker inclusive (modern feminist activists fight for the sex worker's right to their body, an end to human trafficking) and trans inclusive (because gender is a 👻 created by the patriarchy or something)

Your impression is restricted to the anglophone part of the internet.

Let me assure you that these are the feminists teaching our colleges in America, not Twitter reactionaries. I also know enough Europeans to know you're full of shit.

Pretty much in line with OP and with what you are replying to.


It's called lumpen proletariat.

And by that you mean anglos.

Wtf greeks and nederlanders are anglos now

>>>Zig Forums here, good post

How many languages do you know? The answer is one (barely). What's the deal with you people always talking like you know anything about the rest of the world, making up shit, and doubling down when called out on that?

Link to your source or it doesn't exist, you fucking baboon.

See the example
Www. Origin of the material used .gtfo
A comment or critique.

Additionally, I think you need to read that article, and come up with a argument for
Or against. Or if you really are this much of a brainlet you can tell us one thing you liked or one thing you didn't like and why that was.

not the one you're replying to but ive lived in three south american contries and 's descriptors fits what i experienced too

germany as well but i didn't live there long enough to know if what i experienced is as commonplace, i was only there for half a year

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Which is why we can't have worthless theorylets like you wasting everyone's time trying to fix problems that are inherent to the class society capitalism perpetuates.

You don't want revolution or even to fix these 'pressing problems.' You just want to get your slice of the bourgeois pie and fuck to everyone else. Fuck you.

If by "inherent" you mean totally uncorrectable, you're obviously wrong. Social problems should be fought to ease the people's suffering and historically all serious socialists have done this. We've also seen that these same problems aren't automatically fixed by a socialist government.

You don't want revolution or even to fix these 'pressing problems.' You just want to get your slice of the bourgeois pie and fuck to everyone else. Fuck you.
Nah fuck you, claiming to be a socialist while not giving a fuck about actual inequality and pretending everything will be fixed by an imagined future revolution.

shit thread

Note how the idpoler says they support socialism, but believes that revolution is a distant far-off fantasy that won't ever happen in our lifetimes. So we should focus mainly on other things that we can rearrange within capitalism.

No, he meant the revolution will not fix all forms of discrimination. I agree most forms of sex and race awareness are framed within a capitalistic world, but what do you expect?, we can't start thinking about the form of feminist that would exist in a communist society.