Scans prove there’s no such thing as a ‘male’ or ‘female’ brain

newscientist.com/article/dn28582-scans-prove-theres-no-such-thing-as-a-male-or-female-brain/


I’ve been saying that this “male” and “female” brains crap is just modern day phrenology and would you look at that. Now that gender has more or less been scientifically proven to be bullshit, can we finally put it to rest?

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nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17352-8
lmgtfy.com/?q=Gender
cam.ac.uk/research/news/males-and-females-differ-in-specific-brain-structures
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xeper.org/pub/pub_gil.html
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newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2017/05/artificial-wombs-are-only-three-years-away-how-scared-should-women-be
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Fucking finally. Thanks op.

Stupid as fuck fucking idpol bullshit can get out with their gender crap.

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we had a thread about lots of science studies being bullshit these days

what do

Hypothesis: There are no genders
Antithesis: There are infinite genders

Synthesis: There is one gender, and that is "gamer"

There also exist articles with scans stating the opposite, what do? Who do we believe?
Regardless this is not a real lefitst or socialist issue. The idea and discussion of more than 2 genders is liberal idpol that normalizes mental instability and forces a false acceptance of it, whilst breeding resentment.
This discussion is pointless.

Joel et al. (1) discuss the sexual dimorphism in human brains. Using various datasets of imaging data and personality traits, they find that no single variable can separate human males from females. This is in contrast to genitalia-related data, which easily separate genders.

We wish to address a known phenomenon in multivariate statistics by which groups may be perfectly separable, even if no single variable (in the original space) may do so. Fig. 1 demonstrates this phenomenon. Two groups are perfectly separable when considering both variables but inseparable when considering only one variable at a time.

How can one assess the multivariate overlap between groups? One simple way, certainly not unique, is by using a classification approach. If a binary classifier has good performance, then clearly the groups have restricted overlap. Put differently, a classifier can only achieve perfect classification if the data points are well separated (note the converse does not hold: the data may be well separated, even if a particular classifier is no better than random guessing).

By fitting a linear support vector machine (2) to the voxel-based morphometry data reported in ref. 1 we achieve a cross-validated misclassification rate of about 80% (depending on the random splits). We thus conclude that, whereas the univariate brain attributes (voxel morphometry) are bad predictors of gender, the multivariate brain morphometry is a very good predictor of gender.

Given our empirical evidence and the multivariate intuition depicted above, we cannot help but disagree with the concluding statement in the abstract of Joel et al. (1), “… human brains do not belong to one of two distinct categories: male brain/female brain” or their statement that “…brains do not fall into two classes, one typical of males and the other typical of females.…”

A simple multivariate analysis using the same data suggests quite the opposite: Brains are indeed typically male or typically female.

pnas.org/content/113/14/E1966

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regardless of what we think about any of these issues we should definitely start banning anything related to gender and race, just be careful not to turn it into r/socialism but this time banning everything that's not communism.

It’s tea leaves bullshit. If you seek out certain patterns, you’re probably going to find them. It’s what caused phrenology to be a thing.

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Differences between males and females have been extensively documented in biological, psychological, and behavioral domains. Among these, sex differences in the rate and typology of antisocial behavior remains one of the most conspicuous and enduring patterns among humans. However, the nature and extent of sexual dimorphism in the brain among antisocial populations remains mostly unexplored. Here, we seek to understand sex differences in brain structure between incarcerated males and females in a large sample (n = 1,300) using machine learning. We apply source‐based morphometry, a contemporary multivariate approach for quantifying gray matter measured with magnetic resonance imaging, and carry these parcellations forward using machine learning to classify sex. Models using components of brain gray matter volume and concentration were able to differentiate between males and females with greater than 93% generalizable accuracy. Highly differentiated components include orbitofrontal and frontopolar regions, proportionally larger in females, and anterior medial temporal regions proportionally larger in males. We also provide a complimentary analysis of a nonforensic healthy control sample and replicate our 93% sex discrimination. These findings demonstrate that the brains of males and females are highly distinguishable. Understanding sex differences in the brain has implications for elucidating variability in the incidence and progression of disease, psychopathology, and differences in psychological traits and behavior. The reliability of these differences confirms the importance of sex as a moderator of individual differences in brain structure and suggests future research should consider sex specific models.

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/hbm.24462

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This doesn’t explain proven studies which show insecurity in men predispose them to violence while it doesn’t for women, a long with many other studies that divide psychology along sex lines.

Can I hate trannies and gays and still be a communist?

why do you hate them?

There are also studies that show the exact opposite of this, and we know that most published research today is not able to be replicated. And all this study is saying is that male brains can have female features and visa versa, which is so obvious it hilarious. There are also 4 replies to this study that refute it, look at the page pnas.org/content/112/50/15468. Also this study doesn't even say if the the brains of their subject mostly aligned with their sex, they only say that most people had both male and female structures.
This study is being pushed to push a narrative, like most of them are.

i wonder tho, is this a right or a left narrative?

We live in a society.

Yeah exactly, and of course its a bonus that any "study" that goes with 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧the agenda🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 will be.

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depends how its spun
If right wingers were smart and could understand that gender and sex have no relation then "No genders, feminists BTFO with FACTS and SCIENCE"

And for liberals idk maybe "See dad gender ISNT real and making me clean my room is a form of hate speech"

why do we use british flags the same way pol uses the brackets?, is it an allusion to the actual british government or the west in general?

Let us consider a population of carnivorans containing the arbitrary groups "cat" and "dog". One measure cannot distinguish the two species (cat and dog) reliably; however, a constellation of many measures can do so with a high rate of success. Similarly, one SNP cannot reliably differentiate between human populations, but 100 well chosen SNPs can.

If you look at any historical and anthropological evidence, you can see that the gender meme is bullshit. They can squabble about tea leaves all they want, there is not, nor will there ever be, a gene or function of the brain that makes someone wear dresses, and makeup and play with dolls.

A lack of meaningful difference in brain structure between the sexes does not mean there are more than two genders or that gender is bullshit. Obviously what this study points towards, if accurate and replicated (seriously, stop shilling science articles if you don't read the study or it hasn't been replicated yet), is that the undeniable differences in male and female psychology is rooted in hormonal chemistry rather its interaction with neurons rather than neurons directly, but the biological processes that produce those hormonal differences and the genes that encode them are material biological differences that can be categorized as masculine or feminine.

This isn't an "issue" leftists should care about even slightly and I don't know what your motive for caring about it is unless your an idpozzed redditor.


Yes, but you should provide a convincing reason for doing so regardless of your politics.


To make fun of Zig Forums's use of brackets and also to attack the anglos for being one of the roots of neoliberal capitalism and most geopolitical problems in the world today either directly or through its close relationship with the US.

this is bs

male/female brains vary by mass alone, let alone structure or morphology

doesn't matter, you're all disgusting trannies all the same tho

Well. Have a good nothing. Thanks for wasting our lives on no gender and nothing. Fuckin people don't want to have a sex or intercourse they might as well just not exist at all.

The fuck does that have to do with anything?

Most cats and dogs don’t fall somewhere in the middle of both categories.

Scans prove there is nothing in the brain.

This goes directly against the tranny narrative, retard, they claim to be born with the wrong type of brain.

yeah I know what's your point? just because they claim their delusions are based in the sexual dimorphism of the brain doesn't mean human brains are not sexually dimorphic

That's not the point. One can think of many measurable traits where the distributions in dogs and cats overlap to some degree. Body temperature, height at the withers, body mass, litter size, etc. For the same reason (i.e., overlapping distributions), you're not going to be able to use a univariate model to predict gender from brain parameters.

scans prove that majority of population contain absolutely nothing inside their skull

meant for

Do you bring this up to suggest transgenderism has no biological component? Because I have a more recent article which suggests it does have a biological component, and as a bonus, homosexuality as well.
nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17352-8

I myself have been pushing against this narrative predominant in certain areas of the transgender community (which I am a part of) that there is such a thing as a "male or female brain". Even the studies which supposedly prove that contradict it due to outliers. But I don't think this contradicts the idea that there is a biological basis for transgenderism.
By the way, I use the terms gender and sex interchangeably. In my opinion "nonbinary" genders have no real basis in materialism. I'm talking about "binary" transsexuals here.

Gay/trans oriented boards tend to be lefty or liberal, but from what I've seen I'm an outlier on this board, most people here seem to be former Zig Forums or /lit/ users that aren't /lgbt/ gang. But people seem to come here from pretty much all boards.

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The feeling that the body you control is yours, that you are at home in it, etc.
A transgender person might not have this, or it might be somewhat dysfunctional, similar to how someone with a dissociative disorder might feel depersonalized from their own body.

BTW the "contradict it due to outliers"
in my post should say "due to overlap" instead, like you argued earlier, that wording makes more sense.

Your body isn’t yours. You are your body. It is literally you. It isn’t your possession, it is your person.

The whole concept of “body ownership” is pure ideology. I know about it because ancaps and lolberts attempt to use it as some kind of fundamental basis for property rights.

Physically yes, but people are defined by psychology. Thus this possession of self is a psychological one, not physical, even if it usually reflects the physical body.

You don’t need to do a physical survey of every cat and dog and reference that on a chart to determine if the creature in front of you is a cat or a dog. They have very strong differences in features that makes it immediately obvious which category they fall into.

This study from the imperialist colony Israel doesn't conclusively "prove" anything, and it doesn't even support the headline OP posted.

They're not arbitrary groups dumbass. The groups of data are selected based on whether or not they match data for "cis" men and women. Then if the analysis method correctly predicts sex of brains it hasn't been trained on, that's a sign there are many data points that are significantly different between men and women.

Get your brain out of the fucking gutter, the studies he is posting are just conflating the neologism "gender" with sex. Dresses don't have anything to do with it.

What you're saying is that there is less overlap on average in the distribution of traits between cats and dogs than there is between the brains of men and women. Of course, I don't disagree with that. However, this is not to say that we cannot distinguish between male and female brains with very high accuracy. Furthermore, the overlap of distributions in specific parameters between categories does not mean that meaningful differences cannot exist between the categories with respect to the distribution of emergent, higher order phenomena depending on brain organization, i.e. behavior.

Brains are relatively weakly dimorphic: I agree with that. Other traits like anogenital distance show a much more distinct bimodal distribution across sexes.

YES YOU DO, IT'S CALLED A HEURISTIC! EVER TALK TO KIDS? They can't tell animals apart properly! Because they haven't been trained to recognize the correct differences!

See vid.

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Fun fact, if you get tissue removed or a limb amputated, you can ask to keep it. The hospital will give you the runaround at first because it's "procedure" to destroy it, but if you press the issue they have no legal way to refuse you because you own your body and its constituent parts.

We've known this far a long time.

That isn't what this demonstrates at all. In fact, if gender were a social construct (spoilers: it is) this is exactly what we would expect to see when you measure aggregate neurological data between sexes.

Sorry to ruin your "here's a study that doesn't at all say what I'm saying it does" episode 9667 though, Zig Forumsyp.

Why am I not surprised that the clickbait headline and the actual research have little to do with eachother.

stopped reading right there

what the fuck does this thread even mean?

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It's another instance of the freaks that browse this board being liberals from twitter and reddit that think this warrants a thread and it owns the nazis.

Well the BO is a literal tranny, per capita I wouldn't be surprised if it had the most out of any other board.

No he isn't lmao, why are you retards still trying to push that?

The anarchists and those probably justifiably salty with BO started it, and it spiraled out of control form there. Now literally everyone thinks its BO.

No proofs
You used to get banned on Zig Forums when Kampfy was running the place for making "omg this pic is kampfy and the pics of this guy i keep posting getting deleted it proof of that!!" posts no matter who it was, I would imagine it's pretty much the same here.

I'm pretty sure the board wasn't even split when it happened, it was 1 guy who started spamming that tranny pic in early 2017, and it didn't take long for all of Zig Forums to believe it

There were disagreements with BO way before the split, and other people posted the pic/webm besides the one guy when BO made hot takes in threads.

Of course you can.

That study does not prove that there are no genders, retard.
Go back to Reddit with this shit.

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their reasoning doesn't seem to invalidate that male and female brain are different, just that brains in general are so different the difference due to sex is negligible
also that OP image is shit, there are two main sexes, with the occasional hermaphrodite/asexual/bad luck genes fag, two socially recognized genders, and a bunch of retard who self identify as made up genders (it's their right, gender is a social view aka a spook, but it's retarded; because the only identity relevant is the one the society give you, not the one you give yourself. You will only push yourself as a weird deviant)
any retard that talk about neuroscience (usually to justify reactionary viewpoints) as if we had figured that shit is wrong anyway, those are useless arguments.

lmgtfy.com/?q=Gender

lol no, just stfu liberal and go back to reddit
cam.ac.uk/research/news/males-and-females-differ-in-specific-brain-structures
kys OP

bfy.tw/LapI

Pretty sure it was probably the /tv/ BO since he's the guy in the video and he got found out about it

This doesn't prove that sexual dimorphism doesn't exist. It does shed doubt on differences in cognitive ability between sexes though.

The fuck does that mean? Just because "most people are in the middle" doesn't mean there's not a statistical difference in the distribution. With a study of over 1400 people, even a small effect size can be observed. I know this is populist science, but a graph showing the distribution would be nice to see whether or not there is evidence of some essential difference.

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The answer is yes - BUT - you must still cooperate with them and not attack them on the basis of that alone.

My brain got a big ol' bussy.

You can call yourself whatever you want, but if you treat my friend as a man instead of a woman I'll treat you as a Nazi instead of a communist

The study is public and the link is at the bottom of the article: pnas.org/content/112/50/15468

So basically they recognize the data show males and females have brain features that correlate with biological sex, but since variation exists they're going to ignore it and insist that you can't make generalizations about an individual on the basis of sex. They even attempt to disregard their own fucking studies with scare quotes.

It seems like they looked at known data, and tried to define their criteria for difference in such a way that it could be dismissed. The internally consistent criteria is absurd, I don't think any [modern] paper has claimed that there are parts of the brain that are male or female exclusive, but rather proportioned differently (in the study they admit that females tend to have more gray matter).

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my brain's pp hard

IQ is stored in the balls

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There are no exclusively male or female brain features, but in any given male or female most of the time they're going to have more traits associated with their gender than the other way around. Some people will be more even. Some people will have more traits associated with the opposite gender, and I guess trans people would be on the extreme end of that.

Dellusional. Your token gorillas require evidence for that, not that it matters.

You should hate sex offenders, but not homossexuals. That's kind of silly.

I literally hate this debate because people are only able to see things in absolutes or as nothing at all. By some people's logic, either fresh and salt water are two entirely different things because of their chemical differences and the fact that many fish can live in one and not the other, or they don't exist at all and there is no distinction because they flow into one another and salmon can swim between them.
If your mode of thinking cannot comprehend the existence of brackish water and swimming salmon, something is deeply wrong with how you perceive reality,

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its just your typical generic idpol by these fags, same thing with nationality or anything really. spooked shit with pseudos from "left" libshits and nazis
just ignore it, these "discussions" are entirely meaningless but modfags are too chicken to just bumplock that shit like autism level threads because this is somehow totally different and such a hot and important issue that they don't want to "censor" it
they're even too retarded to comprehend their own studies on top so just move on and work with people in things that matter who actually are interested in discussion
would improve the board quality

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Here is the thing: you see this debate literally everywhere when people come up in conversation, and as the debate continues you realize how shitty of a concept of reality most people have as this flaw in understanding leaks into other conversations also when two contrasting camps come up.
I seriously cannot get over how for many of these fucks, throwing a goldfish into the ocean, watching it die, and then pointing to a river flowing into the ocean would literally destroy their perception of reality. Have any of you idiots gone outside? Is everyone turning autistic?

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i fully agree, but i'd rather have them focus and be wrong on those important issues than have people who'd be genuinely on our side get sidetracked with this nonsense
this shit was a huge deal in western germany with persecution by the state idpol fags derailing the left buying into right wing talking points
the GDR legalized it and helped them while not making this shit a big deal and focused on constructing socialism for the most and actively fighting imperialism
this shit is so stale and dumb, so no surprise people with the weakest grasp on theory fall for this just to have a chance on having an opinion on something
utterly pathetic

You have no say on this, sex offending cockroach.

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hahaha

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Remember the ultimate goal of the Technoccult Homosexual Theocracy is total human enslavement and the annihilation of Realspace itself. None of this matters. It is a bunch of monkeys thinking they're living out their lives, when they are in fact lived by them. So enjoy the process and help create the Machine that will destroy all existence, then recreate everything from the beginning, where there is no filthycasulness but only Autism. Something like the Necrons except the C'tan not eating the souls, Quantum Artilects.
aspergia.wikia.com/wiki/Aspergia_Wiki Israel is the Proto-Aspergia, Samson Option is Mankind's Dead Man's Switch for Consciousness; even the best of the gentiles must die
The Sumerian Swindle is a cool book
Ideally, the human being on-birth would have extreme modification like permanent deactivation of taste, smell, pain, sexuality, and so forth, this is what will happen in the Noosphere. If this seems cruel, what is being done in the standard course of "human civilization" presently is infinitely more cruel, but people are just deliberately oblivious to the process, it is why the left despises the right: at all stages of progress the right tries to defend what will in a few decades be indefensible, thus the left is by definition always "on the right side of history" even when they're wrong. The left tries to think and often fails, the right succeeds precisely because they're unwilling to think, thus live like animals, law of the jungle morality, even O9A explains Literally Hitler's "might makes right" is retarded.
o9a.org/wp-content/uploads/o9a-culling-texts-v7a.pdf
Everything is trauma-based mind control. Only Autism matters–everything else is a bunch of chimps calling climbing trees "herratige" and sucking each others "sexuality". It can be funny and pleasant but it is ultimately all pure inanity, on the galactic-neuroevolution scale. Those who understand this level of fuckery become literal technocrats and struggle to contain their hatred.
xeper.org/pub/pub_gil.html
invidio.us/watch?v=LQucESRF3Sg Minds of Men
Delgado wrote about the psychocivilized society–control of the retard nigger cattle until planetstrike Exterminatus. Please watch this documentary and observe how at all levels of increasing intelligence, misanthropy increases quadratically. Aspie kids need to get early exposure to this stuff to validate their anger at the assholes around them. The human being is a neocortically-enhanced monkey: the neocortex is trapped and needs to be detached, first with exocortices then with forcible detachment.
gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=jeff hawkins on intelligence the neocortex is like 6 playing cards, that's it. the rest of the brain is 100% nigger and must be discarded with the rest of the planet.
Animatrix - Second Renaissance is what needs to happen. The Biosphere is struggling to contain the Noosphere, and human beings are harming the process of Universal Mind Expansion and the Evolution of Consciousness Itself.
invidio.us/watch?v=o3ngpiovR-8 Meghan Rouillard on Vernadsky and the Noosphere nice lady
invidio.us/search?q=stephanie kelton richard werner, steve keen, positive money, hypernormalisation, spider's web, princes of the yen, adair turner, martin wolf, etc
gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=christopher hyatt psychopath bible
gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=lisiewski ceremonial magic power evocation
supcom.wikia.com/wiki/Cybran_Nation
starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Nerazim
starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Amon
encyclopediadramatica.rs/360_Kid
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_de_Garis#The_Artilect_War Zig Forums=90% Tradcuck-Terrans; schizoautists = Cosmists+Cybrans
newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2017/05/artificial-wombs-are-only-three-years-away-how-scared-should-women-be very?
profhugodegaris.wordpress.com/gender-roles-2050/ fluffies on sudoku watch
invidio.us/watch?v=tBlXvNQVD4s BBC Horizon 2006 Human v2 0
invidio.us/channel/UCFRV23uUZAf7l3tyq1CAoMA Brendon O'Connell
invidio.us/watch?v=eFfeshgvjNA Israel "Invents" Water Powerd Car - A Blessing Unto The Nations!
invidio.us/search?q=hugo de garis this guy should be cloned a septillion times, all other humans exterminated
he is literally Autism Speaks, i love him.
invidio.us/search?q=michael aquino too.

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tl;dr we have to take every human being, remove their brains, put them in machines, and create the Noosphere; if this fails, the only solution is this:
riddick.wikia.com/wiki/Ascension_Protocol warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Exterminatus
if filthycasulness breaks free from Terra, the multiverse is fucked. monkeys on the universe will remain monkeys, we need to receive the gaynigger seed to become proper human beings. the problem is most people are bigots and won't suck bbc, and forcing them to do so is a non-option as it would defeat the whole purpose.

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The argument pretty much everyone is making here is an argument of FORM not an argument of content. When you examine of the form of gender talked about here, you realize that the argument is pretty nonsensical when you compare it to literally anything else.

Not really tbh unless you conceive of communism in the strictest, purely "economic" sense, and not as a specific way of looking at the world and society.

Where even does the video originate from? Does anyone know this? I'm pretty sure it's a random video uploaded on pornhub by someone who never even heard of Zig Forums that was subsequently memed by trolls to the point people unironically started connecting it to Zig Forums BOs.

I don't get why Right-Wingers in the West are after the whole tranny thing. South Africa gave out tranny surgery during White Rule and Iran does it to any gays they find.

?? source for either of these?

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kek
unscientific already

opinion discarded

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I mean. If the most Stormfronty Nation ever and Iran does it I fail to see why Right-Wingers in the West are so hung up about it.

Individual differences exist.
Average group differences exist.
Therefore, group differences don't exist.

STEM need to take basic intro logic classes. Science used to be based on a foundation of philosophy. Now STEM education is basically rote memorization of latin terminology (instead of just learning the language) and basic math. Scientists are being trained as bad lab techs.

based

If you're going to criticize this, be objective like


Instead of being a discount Zig Forums-ak.


If this is unironic, then kys because these are the embodiment of those people who thinks that SEELE's plan in NGE was a good idea.
If this is just a shit-post then, god-speed.

getting your jimmies rustled this badly…

Wow you are right, from now on I will only listen to studies from universities of countries that are completely guilt-free of imperialism and causing human suffering, such as