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Bentley Green
Bentley Green

ITT Zig Forums approved media
Anti war
Anti nuke
Pro peace
Pro santa claus(cypto socialism)
It's literally ourgame

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Jacob Roberts
Jacob Roberts

Don’t forget anti-fascist and anti-imperialist MGSV:TPO was all about shitting on Big Boss for abandoning the socialist anti-imperialist ideals in Peacewalker

Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

outsideyourheaven.blogspot.com/2012/04/decline-of-anti-americanism-in-metal.html

I find it suspicious that the Metal Gear universe took a turn for the worse when Fukushima mysteriously vanished after MGS3. Fukushima was not only the writer of MGS1, MGS2, and MGS3 (which may explain why they remain somewhat consistent) but he also wrote Metal Gear Ghost Babel, which is even more anti-capitalist than MGS2 in some respects (Its plot is a modern take on the Babel myth, with the U.S. in the role of God, promoting ethnic chaos as insurance against being dethroned by a unified Third World.) which makes it doubly suspicious that the anti-capitalistism of the main series took a nosedive at precisely at the moment Fukushima left.

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Justin Gonzalez
Justin Gonzalez

spend half the series killing soviets
our game

Lincoln Williams
Lincoln Williams

It occurred to me recently that me playing all the MGS games when I was 12 or so might have genuinely guided me unknowingly to more leftist politics.
I have no idea if it actually did, but I do wonder.
Kojima is based and probably our guy.
also unrelated but Big Boss and Ocelot are gay and in love deal with it

Easton Baker
Easton Baker

the main charachters arent really portrayed as being morally correct when killing Soviets, the cold war politics in game really aren't "US good SU bad"

Caleb Wilson
Caleb Wilson

Was he a Maoist Third Worldist?
Well, this seems to check out. Maybe Fukushima is still butthurt over the sino-soviet split.
I remember in MGS3 you were fighting with the Americans, Chinese spy and Revisionist cornman to destroy the Based posadast Stalinists that the cornman called "ultranationalists". Which makes more sense with the guy being a turd Worldist.

Nathan Gomez
Nathan Gomez

Need to get round to editing this a bit but yeah

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Grayson Ramirez
Grayson Ramirez

IDK, MGS4 seemingly had the most blatant satire/criticism of capitalism, with the war market and the PMCs controlling everything.

Hunter Lewis
Hunter Lewis

Seems more to me like the series didn't become pro-burger as much as the later games are just badly written.

Nathaniel Bennett
Nathaniel Bennett

That's true, and if anyone sat through the 3 hours of cutscenes per 1 of gameplay that might have come across better.

Jacob Butler
Jacob Butler

Bee Movie, surprisingly.

Chase Green
Chase Green

How is Bee Movie not right wing as fuck? It compares classes to natural roles in an ecosystem and implies that society will collapse if the working class demands rights instead of sucking it up and accepting their fates.

Cameron Cruz
Cameron Cruz

The end isn't that bees go back to how they were before though, they sell their own labour to society in a mutually beneficial arrangement, the crisis in the middle where they try to live off their legal settlement is that everything would go to shit if nobody did any work and were just lumpens (which is true)

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Luis Hughes
Luis Hughes

Snake and otacon definitely have a bromance going on as well
Otacon loves himself a good gilf

Colton Edwards
Colton Edwards

What about LoGH? is it our anime?

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Jordan Edwards
Jordan Edwards

Tpo?

Colton Anderson
Colton Anderson

Nice trips but you don't need to kill the enemies
Plus it shows that the protagonist is just being used by the US

Parker Phillips
Parker Phillips

Otacon definitely has a bromance, with his "can love bloom on the battlefield?" Iine, but I feel Ocelots homosexuality is pretty explicitly shown, in MGS3 too but pretty strongly in MGS5 if I recall right

Cooper Cox
Cooper Cox

You spend all of Ground Zeroes killing US Marines so it sort of evens out surely

Ethan Johnson
Ethan Johnson

the other half of MGSV you fight colonialist forces in Africa too

Dominic Ross
Dominic Ross

there is no such thing as a good anime so no.

Ethan Scott
Ethan Scott

*TPP

Benjamin Howard
Benjamin Howard

Deus Ex
MGS
Could also be /pol/ tier, glad you guys like them too! The government and oligarchs are against us both! I really like the film My Dinner With Andre, it's a philosophic exploration about what life is about. The last 30 or so minutes are absolute genius.

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Levi Wright
Levi Wright

LOTGH and some of the GUNDAMS are really interesting when it comes to philosophy and government. I would definitely recommend both. (especially LOTGH; Gundam Seed and Gundam Seed Destiny are my favorite of the gundams from a government point of view though).

Logan Sanders
Logan Sanders

Asassin's Creed: Syndicate has levels where you act as Karl Marx's body guard, and he is protrayed quite positively

Ryan Flores
Ryan Flores

no, gurren lagann is

Justin Sanders
Justin Sanders

he was portrayed as a liberal

Mason Nguyen
Mason Nguyen

Yes

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Ryan Ortiz
Ryan Ortiz

That's an odd way of spelling Kill la Kill

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Chase Collins
Chase Collins

dude family businesses lmao

Eli Young
Eli Young

logh is a show about the great man theory of history, so no i don't think it's our show, but still it is so good that i wish some kind of equivalent existed for historical materialism, like some kind of grand space opera, where except of nations operating under the great man theory, they do so under histomat, think about it, such a thing would be awesome

Ryan James
Ryan James

For the Crisis in the Kremlin remake, I'd say the gameplay is 5-7 depending on the kind of gameplay you like and the leftist themes are at least 9. The makers of the game are explicitly anti capitalist and the game shows the bad sides of liberalisation of the USSR(it even includes the Pizza Hut thing)

Jason Sanchez
Jason Sanchez

Is that really what you got out of the anime? the bougie textile manufacturer mom was the bad guy

Nolan Miller
Nolan Miller

at the end of the show all the other student council leaders talk about how their rich parents gave them jobs

Josiah Parker
Josiah Parker

Not one mention of Patlabor
Smh tbh fam

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Levi Perry
Levi Perry

Snowpiercer is the most Marxist action film this century, change my mind.

*also can be seen as a critique of Leninism and vanguardism more generally*

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Elijah Green
Elijah Green

This for sure. I don't remember the first one much but the second one had explicitly anti-imperialist views. I'm pretty sure Oshi's Sky Crawlers was similar.

Someone who's seen these more recently should probably confirm though since I wasn't really a leftist when I saw them.

Dominic Parker
Dominic Parker

Some say its a sequal too willy wonka

Aiden Barnes
Aiden Barnes

Here's a good video that goes over some of its underlying themes if you haven't seen Patlabor 2 recently. What struck me the most was how the Mamoru Oshii openly admits to agreeing with the antagonists ideals. I know its sometimes implied in other anime that the filmwriter/director emphasizes on some level with the main villain, especially if that villain is made to be sympathetic, but you very rarely hear them say it outright. To spoil The antagonist is an anti-imperialist ex-UN peacekeeping operative who is trying to show how the current peace in Japan is a false one generated by Japan's involvement in US imperialism. The main character through the events in the story and having witnessed the inept and manipulative behavior of the defense ministry in how it handles the situation at hand comes to begrudgingly agree with the antagonist on the problem, even as she takes him in as she still sees the actions he committed as wrong. She admits she wants the false peace to be revealed for what it is as the antagonist does, just not with his methods.

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Josiah Jackson
Josiah Jackson

Forgot video
youtube.com/watch?v=ybLKmO5Kq5A

Joseph Lee
Joseph Lee

Planetes is the proletariat's anime

Luke Diaz
Luke Diaz

He is portrayed as a socdem pacifist.

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Julian Gray
Julian Gray

The one on the left isn't bad though, socialism is democracy for workers.

John Stewart
John Stewart

lol fuck off idealist utopian

socailism is when the government owns everythingn and everyone. period. if you're a socialist for any other reason you'rew rong.

Parker Moore
Parker Moore

The workers want action and results. They don't care about muh democracy. Only libs do which is why whenever they attempt to rehabilitate marx they always have him drone on and on about muh democracy like he was some big devoted socdem or some shit.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark

literally wanted to institute a bourgeois democracy in Germany just so he could later overthrow it
<liberals in 2019: Oh wow, he’s just like me!

Charles Rodriguez
Charles Rodriguez


How well does Deus Ex hold up today? Been meaning to play it for ages.

Such a good show

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Samuel Rivera
Samuel Rivera

My Dinner With Andre
Pretty great film.
Not exactly leftist, but I enjoyed it

Sebastian Clark
Sebastian Clark

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Brayden Murphy
Brayden Murphy

Seed was a garbage series. UC in general is far far better.

Julian Martin
Julian Martin

i have still yet to find any video game that makes an incredible passionate and compelling case for socialism on an individualistic level without being incredible overt with it. For me movies like "Falling Down" and "I,Daniel Blake" provide such a nuanced worker perspective critique of capitalism, and are pure kino because of it. But with video games i have yet to find something that can provide this same level of passion of critique into the system, while at the same time not telling the audience what to think, but rather merely pointing out the evidence and leading them to come to socialism as a natural conclusion. Any "communist video game for me has either been:
too vague and unspecified to be called socialist
undertale is totally socialist guys
dwarf fortress is all about working dwarfs, that makes it communist
too on the nose and preachy to be considered in anything more the propaganda
look guys, this game is about taking down a cartoonishly villainous oppressor, while fighting for the people of a fictional island, totally communist
Or worst of all, simply mentions the USSR in anyway shape of form
red orchestra is communist cos you're playing as soviet troops lmao
red alert is communist cos you're playing as soviet troops lmao

The only two games that have ever gotten close for me was "Spec Ops:The Line" but that falls short because although it makes one of the greatest and most compelling anti-war games created, it never takes that extra inch forward and shows are capitalism is responsible for it. And "Cart Life" which would be the perfect socialist and anti-capitalist game, showing the brutality and futility that faces many members of the working class on a daily basis, as you struggle to pay simple bills let alone aspire to save, the only reason i wouldn't consider it is it's dramatically short length

Zachary Nguyen
Zachary Nguyen

The problem with being overtly political in games is that they require a massive budget and amount of man hours meaning going against the status quo politically jeopardizes their potential revenue. The closest you'll get is games like MGS that are anti war but never paint capatilsm as evil since that obviously wouldn't fly with execs trying to make a profit.

Christopher Wilson
Christopher Wilson

LotGH is great man theory fashie nonsense.

Nausicaä is our anime.

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Chase Perez
Chase Perez

Nausica
my nigga

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Jace Powell
Jace Powell

Mercenaries 2, a game where you defeat the evil DPRK
pro-marxism

Lincoln Morgan
Lincoln Morgan

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Adrian Cox
Adrian Cox

muh great man theory
You guys do know that the narrator made mentions of the Republic bankruptcy, lack of numbers ( less than half of Imperial's population), weaker technoloy and explosion of refugees from Imperial as factors for its decline right.

I totally argee that Reinhard was a Mary Sue though

It was written by a socialist. He played the protagonist.

Nolan Martinez
Nolan Martinez

The workers want action and results. They don't care about muh democracy.
There is no socialism without proletarian democracy.

Chase Rodriguez
Chase Rodriguez

Probably suggested by some dangoid revisionist because it seems China is the only other " communist" faction. Wait scratch that,
Mercenaries two is about Venezuela and how you can support the communist guerillas (that happen to be allied with China for pragmatic purposes at least) against the Oil Barrons and the illegitimate Right wing dictatorship that fled to a bunker.

Jordan Bailey
Jordan Bailey

Apparently there is also the edgy choice of gouging with the pirates or the russian mafia and stealing and killing everybody lmao. What the game really highlights is how Mercs and PMCs really have no morals or qualms about War and is only in it for the money. Heck, you worked with the main bad guy the first mission of the second game. Mercenaries One is a bit dickish because it make out the DPRK like some cartoonishly evil dictatorship and also you actually lose money for imperialist UN troops in the first game which is just a dick move. Both the games had a main bad guy you had to fight that you can't join and I think they made it so that the audience views the mercenary organization as barely better than the main antagonist faction as you can go around and reap the most profit by getting the factions to fight over each other.

Jackson Fisher
Jackson Fisher

*lose money killing UN troops

Samuel Torres
Samuel Torres

muh genes
glorification of the soldier of fortune
politics is an unintelligible mess of contorted conspiracies
advertisements for gun manufacturers

Why are you retarded Zig Forums?

Andrew Richardson
Andrew Richardson

I don't know. I haven't played past mgs3 but mgs2 had that stuff and I would tend to agree that we're retarded.

Jayden Ross
Jayden Ross

watch planetes
it has terrible writing, animation, characters, plot
tfw I got memed on

Christian Hernandez
Christian Hernandez

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Cameron Bennett
Cameron Bennett

game about PRIVATE military company
Conducting operations for MONEY

lefty

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Jayden Nelson
Jayden Nelson

The pre-MGS4 story was pretty coherent, and is blatantly critical of the notion of genetic determinism. Kojima makes it clear that while some people are naturally gifted, a superior person is made, not born.

Gavin Butler
Gavin Butler

main characters are always portrayed as morally correct, there is no such thing as playing as a bad guy

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Levi Morris
Levi Morris

there was an indie game about running a hotdog stand or something that was supposed to be critical of capitalism

Lincoln Gutierrez
Lincoln Gutierrez

Otacon got a boner when he saw Sniper Wolf's tits, thats what prompted him to say that.

Nolan Foster
Nolan Foster

fug your right im a fake fan sorry lads

Levi Butler
Levi Butler

Was he the first Kurdboo?

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Benjamin Gomez
Benjamin Gomez

Mercenaries two is about Venezuela and how you can support the communist guerillas (that happen to be allied with China for pragmatic purposes at least) against the Oil Barrons and the illegitimate Right wing dictatorship that fled to a bunker.

bingo

Isaac Miller
Isaac Miller

Is La Chinoise any good? Finna maybe watch it tonight.

Parker Anderson
Parker Anderson

It's still really good IMO

IDK, it wasn't that memorable but the commie third worldist characters were interesting and it showed the tyranny of working a low paid highly skilled job with terrible conditions well enough

Levi Gutierrez
Levi Gutierrez

Soldiers Without Borders isn't just a mercenary company though, they fight, sort of, on behalf of oppressed peoples, and it develops into Outer Heaven which just decided to upend the world system because it sucked.

Zanzibar Land was leftist in the same way as 'Solo Wing' Pixy, they wanted to destroy the twisted world and start over. And the series in general displays the horrors and pointless brutality of war - especially since the most prestigious way to finish the game is a no-kill run.

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Anthony Walker
Anthony Walker

It's a comedy version of Dostoyevsky's Demons, if that sounds good to you then watch it

Andrew Lewis
Andrew Lewis

I could be wrong but I get more of a 'depraved bisexual' vibe from Ocelot

Liam Turner
Liam Turner

The moral of mgs1 is that genes are arbitrary

Mason Hernandez
Mason Hernandez

Holy shit I can't believe I got that wrong. I guess Mercs 2 is an "okay with a caveat"

Thomas Kelly
Thomas Kelly

Are there any works by Dostoevsky that don’t make you want to kill yourself after reading them?

Brayden Butler
Brayden Butler

great man theory fashie nonsense
The characters of the show have different viewpoints and ideals. There's really no main message at all.

youtube.com/watch?v=KJM3MKfYm7s
youtube.com/watch?v=fbeWISh2JVM

Andrew Peterson
Andrew Peterson

no that's what you read Tolstoy for

Ryder Nelson
Ryder Nelson

Similarly, all the characters are supported by a team of individuals, so there's not really a lot of space Jesus who solves everyone on their faction's problems

Parker Hall
Parker Hall

Persona 5 is fairly left-leaning in some regards. You get to take down a corrupt businessman and a corrupt politician.

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Lucas Brooks
Lucas Brooks

Ocelot literally namedrops Marxist theory in TPP.

Also don't tell me this isn't anti-capitalist as fuck

youtu.be/kSZl0Es_BBs

Mason Martin
Mason Martin

Wonder Showzen have some good and funny lefty themes in there.
youtube.com/watch?v=IwvrGHsjD7g
youtube.com/watch?v=YZQEJblS6tI
youtube.com/watch?v=nY7Iy-uI590
youtube.com/watch?v=stHk7tOsJTw

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Adam Nguyen
Adam Nguyen

Greed turned into a capitalist to afford gunpla
A lot more dangerous than you'd think.

Jaxon Brooks
Jaxon Brooks

it has terrible writing, animation, characters, plot
shit taste/10

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John Davis
John Davis

Revolves around stopping an Eyes Wide Shut-tier cult of elite pervert fucks
critical of the rich and literally extols Marxist crisis theory and analysis without calling it that

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Andrew Bailey
Andrew Bailey

8th MS Team
Diebuster
Kara no Kyoukai
motherfucking Dead Leaves
all that basic-ass Ghiblishit every normie has seen
all that fucking manime but no Gurren Lagann, no Getter Robo, only a token Nagai in Devilman
that entire "those that excel in" chart
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Michael Smith
Michael Smith

what's wrong with dead leaves and 08th ms team my nigga?

Adrian Cruz
Adrian Cruz

Dead Leaves is for people who think Imaishi is secretly a genius. 08th is the worst Gundam OVA

Anthony Torres
Anthony Torres

dead leaves
I figured people liked his stuff purely for the entertainment value.
08th is the worst Gundam OVA
Interesting. I'm in the middle of the series right now and was wondering if it would live up to the hype when the other ovas look way more interesting.

Brody Hall
Brody Hall

Final Fantasy VII is about Cloud, a soldier deluded into thinking he's a high ranking war hero who joins a rebel cel called AVALANCHE, with the objective of demolishing the Shinra Corporation, a company that unofficially runs the world and is literally sucking the life force from it to generate electricity. The main antagonist believes he is a superior life form with the right to change or destroy life as he sees fit, due to his genetics and heritage. By the end, Cloud realizes he was never the hot shit he thought he was, and Shinra self destructs by fucking the environment too hard (Kaiju rising up against the planetary destruction). After killing Sephiroth, who'd summoned a massive meteor to destroy and then reconstruct the world (return to glorious past?) everything is still doomed and the spirit of the planet saves it self. I'm convinced that a secret intern who was a Communist grounded in materialism and revolution would have pushed to add to the story, a subplot about AVALANCHE stirring up the proles, who would fight to build a classless society after recovering from unavoidable catastrophe. Despite it's idealism, it's definitely a Left friendly game.

Easton Parker
Easton Parker

That's Ace Combat right? I need to play through those before 7.

Parker White
Parker White

I haven't finished P5 yet but so far its struck me as fairly left leaning.
also the colour theme is red check mate rightists

Asher Richardson
Asher Richardson

story about a debt collector written by a Marxist
\ourlad\

Josiah Baker
Josiah Baker

naniwa kin'yuudo

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Alexander Roberts
Alexander Roberts

the correct center between the populist extremes (fighting for imperialism and fighting for anti-imperialism) is to SOMETIMES kill the imperialists and SOMETIMES help them plunder the third world

Ryder Lee
Ryder Lee

Peace Walker was rogue KGB agents, in MGS3 you don't have to kill any Soviets, same for V. Plus the ones in V were working with XOF to counter Cipher, which ultimately was a bad move.

Meanwhile you
1) Aid Nicaragua in attaining communism and ousting US troops
2) Destroy imperialist operations in Africa
3) Stop XOF and lay the groundwork for destroying Cipher/The Patriots, which were basically trying to establish perpetual capitalism under an authoritarian state with several data filters and the granddaddy of a MICs.
3) Personally stop god knows how many genocides between Skullface and destroying PMC operations in Africa.
4) Destroy fictional Guantanamo Bay and rescue all the prisoners inside.
5) Go on to try and end the capitalist world order with Outer Heaven and Zanzibar Land.

Big Boss/Venom aren't really ideologically aligned to anyone save The Boss, but they pretty frequently line up with leftist principles and ideals. I'll give you that Miller is pretty unapologetically capitalist even if he harbors some dislike for the US' imperialism, plus I always saw him as fairly incompetent.

Samuel Foster
Samuel Foster

Yeah that's right. And hot damn, I didn't realise they were going back to Strangereal! Woohoo!

Sadly the Ace Combat games didn't seem to work properly at all on PS2CX, if you can find some way to get them to work though I recommend 5, The Belkan War, and X (PSP) if you can manage to do it.

Brody Hughes
Brody Hughes

lefty media
Muh-lifestyle-is-revolutionary la anime

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Tyler Rodriguez
Tyler Rodriguez

Kara no Kyoukai is a bad choice

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Brayden Murphy
Brayden Murphy

Fallout 1 and 2 always struck me as games that could be read as either right wing or left wing depending on who you ask.

Colton Russell
Colton Russell

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Chase Campbell
Chase Campbell

he unironically likes Mary Sue: The Animation

Cameron King
Cameron King

Ladykiller in a bind

Wut

Lucas Mitchell
Lucas Mitchell

How has nobody mentioned the one of the most important and openly leftist pieces of media in the 20th century? Star Trek.
The show was portraying super advanced space communism. A post scarcity society in which there doesn't even exist a form of currency. The show creator and producer was Gene Roddenberry, a self admitted communist.

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Joseph Cooper
Joseph Cooper

Everyone knows Starfleet has attained FALSC

Luis Moore
Luis Moore

This is just Bonapartism. Don't give Reinhardt too much credit.

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