What is left communism? Isn't all communism left? Why does everyone mock left communism?
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What is left communism? Isn't all communism left? Why does everyone mock left communism?
Liam Martin
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Kayden Wright
Anarkiddies spout American propaganda and sat "real communism has never been tried"
Carter Miller
Infantile disorder
Levi Adams
left communism isn't meant in the literal sense, it's a form of ultra leftist dogma used by faggots who sit on their armchairs all day calling every revolutionary action "opportunist" or not actual socialism.
Daniel Walker
Anarkiddie utopians who believe literal CIA propaganda
Julian Young
It's an umbrella term that stems from various factions who were in opposition to the Bolsheviks from a left wing perspective. The main currents are Italian (basically anti-Stalin Leninists), German-Dutch (councilists), and the more contemporary communization theorists who are a hodge podge of tendencies from narchos to Marxists to post-leftists.
Jeremiah Peterson
It means left relative to communism in general. Same way that social democrats are the "left wing of capital." There's multiple tendencies, including people who think Lenin compromised too much or people who think that the only way to get communism is to wait for capitalism to collapse.
Ayden Barnes
This. They are kind of likd like "sports analysts" that bitch constantly about players and coaches but have never actually played or coached anything in their lives, but with socialism.
Joseph Hernandez
Praise Stalin btw, also, are you faggots illiterate
Lucas Nguyen
Because they were to the "left" of orthodox communists and the Bolsheviks, especially in their view of parliamentary politics, which they staunchly refused to participate in. They're also called ultra leftists. They're often viewed by "right communists" as weighing principle over actually engaging in politics (hence the the term "armchair") and historically none of them were all that successful. That said, this is mostly just a historical debate anyway, since neither the Bolsheviks nor the leftcoms exist anymore.
Isaiah Howard
Leftcommunists as in, their opposition to the USSR, don't exist anymore, but certainly there are Bordigists, communizers, councilists, etc.
Bolsheviks, as in, the faction within the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party don't exist anymore, but there are still lots of Marxists-Leninists, of which few are even a relevant force within their country.
Easton Gomez
Why are there "leftcoms", but no "rightcoms"?
Dominic Carter
en.wikipedia.org
but there is
Sebastian Allen
True enough, but both of them are well past their heyday, and in the case of ML's they're pretty far removed from the Bolsheviks of 1917.
There are rightcoms. Bukharin, for instance, was considered to be at the right-wing of the communist party since he advocated for the continuation of the NEP. Any communist whose politics are more right-wing than the mean would be a right-wing communist. It's just that people usually don't call themselves that, and the common practice is to slander everyone to the right of you as bourgeois - acknowledging them as communists would be self-defeating.
Jackson Robinson
Marketsocs and libsocs are the right-wing of communism.
Cooper Campbell
They are more often called "left of center" or "center left" or whatever.
Joshua Ross
Because we are correct
Nathan Howard
Left Opposition is the group of leftcoms who opposed the treaty of Brest Litovsk and wanted to wage a revolutionary war against Germany. They saw the peace as a betrayal of the world revolution. Leftcoms also opposed the NEP, though some people like Bukharin basically went from leftcom to rightcom.
Justin Taylor
holy fuck, that first pic
No wonder leftcoms have brain damage.
Jose King
"Left" as in "They left communism to go pursue lesser economic models".
Lincoln Murphy
Leftcommunism is usually in reference to communism/Marxism that is so far left that it pretty much disavows all socialist countries to ever exist. Maybe with the exception of the early SU but even then its only really trots that would defend that and still be leftcommunists
They're disliked here partially for ideological differences, but tbh I think the reason most people here hate them is because their almost always the most annoying of contrarian users on the whole board.
also yes, all communism is left wing obviously
Aiden Lopez
Right coms would just be DemSocs/SocDems, assuming this is an honest question
Jackson Perry
Leftcoms seem to have a quasi-religious approach to Marx, and theory in general. Rather than analysing the content of a written work, comparing it to material reality and evaluating whether it's true, they begin from the position that anything Marx wrote is *a priori* true, and dismiss any dissenting interpretation as "revisionist" because they regard their chosen dogma and material reality as interchangable
Eli Kelly
Left Communism is to Communism what Austrian School is to Capitalism.
It's 100% correct but it will never work.
Cameron Morgan
Pretty accurate I suppose, left communism is our anarcho-capitalism and trotskyism is our straßerism ("b-bro it would've been actually socialist if our guy who got purged had been in charge!")
Thomas Anderson
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Xavier Watson
Camatte was a doomer saint tbh
Kevin Price
Left-communism was the variant of the anti-Soviet left before Trotskyism took it over. As much as I despise them, and as glad as I am that the "leftcoms are well-read" meme is dead, no sane socialist can deny that if they took over the Western left instead of Trots our situation would be 100x better than it is now.
Christopher Thomas
Nobody mocks left communists. In fact, out of all leftist tendencies, they are by far the most respected and admired.
Pics related is what a leftcom might look like before he begins his reading session on communization theory.
Jackson Anderson
Why so many names for the almost same thing?
Carter Parker
That man is deformed.
Ian Hughes
That man is 'shopped.
Matthew Hill
desab
Jose Ramirez
Caleb Walker
The guy gives a somewhat accurate descrption of Leftcommunism but his description of what the USSR is considered by Leftcoms is somewhat lacking. Aufheben in fact regurgitates Ticktin's claim that the USSR was a "non-mode of production", a ridiculous claim, but some Leftcoms like Chattopadhyay do claim that the USSR was state capitalist, while Bordiga was more ambiguous about it. To make no difference between state capitalism and capitalism as communisers have done it seems to be the same sort of vulgarism to think fascism and liberalism is one and the same and there we should resist fascism. But he's generally right that the term state capitalism came from an offshoot sect of Trots, not Trotsky himself but the Tony Cliff school.
Still, Leftcommunism is completely dislodged from the real world these days, as it always have been, you will never hear these theories outside of the milieus of philosophy students or anime-posting Twitter issues, it really has been a stillborn. I assume some Italian workers may or may not heard or Bordiga because he's an historical figure in Italy but that's it.