Can I still be a Marxist and think race mixing and hip hop culture are fucking disgusting?
Can I still be a Marxist and think race mixing and hip hop culture are fucking...
yeah, as long as you keep it to yourself
I don't see why you would but I guess. Just don't try go ban everything or go reactionary.
Just don't try go ban everything
Ehhhh…. Sorry man, I just think it’s disgusting.
you disgust me
Hope you can forgive me, user.
nah it's okay, just keep up reading theory or something.
De gustibum non disputum
You can't argue taste
If you only want to date people genetically closer to you that's your own business, everyone has weird fetishes of some sort
The only point where it becomes an issue is if you try and enforce it on others
Yes just be a Maoist or a NasBol
But would you try ban it?
I… really don’t know. Probably not? I wouldn’t enforce anti-race mixing but I would most likely do away with hip hop culture.
What’s the difference between Stalinism and Maoism? I know Maoism places emphasis on nationalism but I don’t know how actually reactionary it is, relatively speaking.
stupid fucking autocorrect, i said s*cially c*nservative.
Lol removing a culture is probably harder than a type of sexual intercourse, or do you mean magically erasing that genre from history? i'm mexican but i would destroy reggaeton from history so other shit arises, like Argentina that has that "national rock" genre(literally just rock in spanish and that comes from that country) with Spinetta and other cool musicians youtube.com
Stalinism turned a dysfunctional agrarian state into a world superpower while enduring the largest war in history. Maoism killed sparrows?
Can I still be a Marxist and think […] and hip hop culture are fucking disgusting?
elision of text for emphasis because all the responses will focus on the race thing as that's a more salient topic
You should look into Adorno when you have some leisure time for self directed study
eeks and ooks
Haha, oh yeah, I forgot that Mao lost a fight with fucking sparrows. How could he be so ecologically ignorant? Brilliant political intellectual otherwise.
I like jazz, love Motown/Phil Spector/rock n roll, I just fucking HATE most rap and the self-debasing culture that surrounds it nowadays. Maybe there’s a socioeconomic reason for this retard music, I don’t know, but I don’t think it’s doing the youth any developmental favors.
What even is 'hiphop culture' to you?
antisemitism and eugenics are so not cool, user. i hate israel just as much as the next guy but i can’t find anything worth intellectually savoring about nazism, and believe me i’ve fucking tried.
Is this the true power of rightist thought???
I think it’s pretty self-explanatory, honestly. Unless you aren’t an American/westerner?
I wish there was more focus on actual theory within the Nazbol community than just memes. It’s a very interesting concept, though.
it's not fuck you i was just memeing NAZBOL ALERT NAZBOL ALERT
Nah man, I think they’ve got potential, they just need to clean up and get their intellectual shit together. They could take from Marxism or Gadaffism or something.
Disagree on the racial shit, but yeah modern hip hop is complete shit.
Well no, I am, but I actually like some hiphop and it's such a broad topic to say 'the culture'. Like there's bitches and hoes hip-hop and there's hard truths about the street life campaigning hip-hop, and then there's something in between, it's difficult to separate out and say 'this should be banned and this not'.
Whatever you say Marge.
Should prolly mark off 21 Savage somehow too
But I think it's a bit lurid to say they sucked cause they died, the gang wars kinda made rap what it was and the fact some of the new crop have died kinda links back to the old, in a morbid way.
Like there's bitches and hoes hip-hop
This is my concern. The kind of shit that kids look to if one of their parents aren’t around.
And none of you motherfuckers better give me that shit about how people used to complain about rock n roll and jazz being degenerate, I recognize that drug addiction and self-destructive behavior have always existed within rock and jazz, but you are downright lying to yourself if you don’t think it’s much more pronounced in rap.
Maybe thats why the Chinese keeps flocking to Australia since they see solidarity to another country that lost a war to birds
Nigger it doesn't take your music tastes to get into fucked up shit, i prefer rock but i fap to fucked shit and watch gory stuff
Yes, you can be a half-skilled Marxist spooked beyond belief. It's not even uncommon.
That’s the average rock listener.
I’m joking but I have a very “think of muh children” stance on this.
X is dead
peep is dead
uzi is quitting music
6ix9ine is going to jail for 40+ years
kodak will be convicted of rape and go to jail for 30+ years
21 is getting deported back to jolly ol' england
juicewrld lost millions thanks to sting
Who will be the next SoundClown to get their career fucked up beyond repair?
See I sort of get what you're saying there but it's too simplistic to just call it 'hiphop culture' because there's parts of hip-hop that are incisive and needed too, it's hard to say.
Like this song for instance
I recommend listening but if not
"The ballot or the bullet, some freedom or some bullshit
Will we ever do it big, or just keep settling for lil' shit?
We brag on having bread, but none of us are bakers
We all talk having greens, but none of us own acres
If none of us own acres, and none of us grow wheat
Then who will feed our people when our people need to eat
So it seems our people starve from lack of understanding
Cause all we seem to give them is some balling and some dancing
And some talking about our car and imaginary mansions
We should be indited for bullshit we inciting
Hand the children death and pretend that it's exciting
We are advertisements for agony and pain
We exploit the youth, we tell them to join a gang
We tell them dope stories, introduce them to the game
Just like Oliver North introduced us to cocaine
In the 80's when the bricks came on military planes"
why do you need to justify your feeling that race mixing is disgusting? people who dont consider it disgusting should justify it to you
I mean i have said this before but if i have a child i would rather have them watch Ghibli films and listen to classic groups, i can see where you are coming from, but on the other hand i doubt the music it's an influence as much as it is a reaction to living in poverty and the culture that developed.
Nothing wrong with that. As long as you're with us.
Where do you think you are?
I do recognize that modern hip hop is ultimately a reflection of poverty, but that doesn’t make it any less toxic. Why can’t they listen to Motown or jazz? I hate how this shit is mainstream.
I’ve always thought that most Marxists and communists were social progressives. I am not, to an extent.
Lil Pump will take a handful of xannies, jump in his pool, drown.
Leftypol, and generally the internet and the real world, is full of people who vastly overestimate their understanding of many things. You won't really stand out as a spooked guy who heard about a dude who heard about Marx.
out of curiosity, why are you here if you’re NutSac?
i can go wherever the fuck I want try and stop me
YOU RETARD YOU UNLEASHED THE ULTIMATE NAZBOL GOD OF DOOM
Uhm, okay, you self-aggrandizing fuckface. I’ve read Capital, there’s nothing second-hand about my politics.
well obviously i just wanted to know your reasoning for it; idt nazism is very much left-wing… unless you like some leftist literature?
I am anti-capitalist, anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist to the bone. I think race mixing (particularly between black and white people) destroys the beauty of both ethnicities.
Not if that's a political priority no, if it's just an opinion sure you're allowed to be a Marxist and a fag
getting really sick of this autocorrect, i meant anti-a*erican and anti-capitalist
Is double anti-capitalist
I guess wanting races to not interbred because of the reasons you gave it's the very least worst reason to hate interbreeding. I suppose you are like those /pol/yps that want each race to have their own ethnocountry lol
putting denzel, ghostemane, and bones in the same category as lil pump and yachty
Yeah man I don’t have anything against black people, unlike a lot of people who are against race mixing, I just think mixing is nasty af. I hold a 50/50 black and white nationalist stance on this.
As for ethnostates, I don’t know man. Too utopian and far-out for me. I guess the DPRK counts as one?
Well i see some cute grills that result from mixing so idk, don't really care.
Why is race mixing so bad? But I would totally ban hip-hop for being so shit
They all came out of the SoundCloud scene.
None of those have anything to do with OP's question, retard
The real question is what would you do if your son/daughter were to race mix though.
eat the baby to gain it's racial beauty
There are certain races and nations revolutionaries shouldn't want to mix/breed with, namely Israelis, all Zionist Jews, gusanos, white South Africans, maybe even Lebanese Christians since they tend to be highly reactionary. If my daughter was dating an Israeli I'd fucking kill her.
but what if any of those gives me the nuclear code to nuke their own country? i would suck his dick
all Zionist Jews
Who or what is a "Zionist" according to you?
I know ypu guys may not believe this but R&B and pop is still a thing. And believe me, rap is still not as prominent as (post) rock.
If you watch alot of anime music vidros (AMVs) most of the music is some pop rock artist that you may have overlooked.
Race mixing is a spook. Hip-hop culture would be radically different under socialism. You nazi types need to leave
Can I still be a Marxist and think race
No. Race has no material basis, it's a modern (post-15th century) invention.
Race mixing and hip hop are disgusting
What socialist state encouraged it? Capitalism creates and popularizes it where as The USSR, China, North Korea have fought against subversive elements
As other people in the thread have said, as long as it's your own thing and you don't try to ban other people from "race-mixing," then it's your own preference, just like no one should "force you" to do it. I'll also say that I disagree that it waters down the beauty of each individual "race" (whatever the hell definition we're even using of race, but that's another can of worms). There are a lot of mixed-race qt's out there.
Also with modern hip-hop, I mean, yeah… I guess I'll first echo the suggestion of reading "The Culture Industry" (you can find The Dialectic of Enlightenment free online, and that specific chapter should only take you an hour or so to read) to see what the real problem here is. Most modern hip-hop culture is barrel-scraping garbage, but the absolute best of the genre is up there with the best of all popular music. I guess what I'm trying to say is: I agree somewhat, but don't take Aquemini away from me.
Yes, OutKast was great for their time. While all the Southern and West Coast rappers were into crunk and baggy saggy clothes, these guys used soul music and donned pimpin suits. Their Speakerboxx/Love Below album in 2003/04 was the epitome of their work.
Anyway, hip-hop was a hit-or-miss. I remember around 2009-'11 house hip-hop came on the scene and I was hoping it would replace "crunk" (which is the common type of rap you hear on radio during the 2000s with its sparse monosynth riffs and handclap drumbeats), then came dubstep, but around 2015, rap came back in the form of "trap" ( the dark meancing overdistorted riffs) and we're here.
Me, I don't hate hip-hop, I just wish it took a different direction.
Racists get the bullet too.