Is it just me or is there an implicit homosexuality in fascist discourse? Take...

Kayden Myers
Kayden Myers

Is it just me or is there an implicit homosexuality in fascist discourse?

Take the United States: ask any American why you should support the military/police and their answer almost always ends up either in porcine rage or (if you get lucky) a lengthy diatribe about how "hard" it is.

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youtu.be/PvZOVMmRYdA
youtube.com/watch?v=Kvx2GgKyIy0
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Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

nazis were fucking gay

Juan Clark
Juan Clark

Ernst Rohm liked to fuck kids. Hitler's best friend. It must have sucked to have been him… you know, getting killed by Hitler and all.

Hunter Roberts
Hunter Roberts

ideologies based on dominance tend to be really fucking gay, I've noticed.

Jaxson Gonzalez
Jaxson Gonzalez

You a lolbertarian?

Easton Richardson
Easton Richardson

I'm ☭TANKIE☭

Daniel Johnson
Daniel Johnson

Female sexuality is seen as something of a pathology in fascism, so masculinity and its "eternal struggle" is the only refuge for the "strong" in this world against the perceived irrationality of the female. If that means taking a cock then whatever.

Also, for all the railing against d.egeneracy fascism does, they secretly think it's ok for certain members of society to indulge because they're "ascended" and can understand it in ways the pleb masses cannot or some snowflake shit. Even Evola made excuses for aristocrats to be absolutely wild in their pleasure pursuits.

Evan Taylor
Evan Taylor

Let's crash the matriarchy by fucking each other's asses!

Jackson Myers
Jackson Myers

Liberal-tier analysis of fascism. Focus on class, not muh gay people

Charles Garcia
Charles Garcia

liberal-tier comprehension of op's post

Cameron Robinson
Cameron Robinson

Have you ever noticed how much you ride Nick Mullen's and Sam Hyde's dicks?

Brody Adams
Brody Adams

Who?

Logan Bennett
Logan Bennett

sam hyde is a nigger

Wyatt Brooks
Wyatt Brooks

t. offended faggot

Michael Morgan
Michael Morgan

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Jace Campbell
Jace Campbell

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Landon Gutierrez
Landon Gutierrez

if we don't like sam hyde how does this apply to us, you are the one who got mad

Cooper Hill
Cooper Hill

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Isaiah Perry
Isaiah Perry

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David Adams
David Adams

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Jaxson Lee
Jaxson Lee

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Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson

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Blake Miller
Blake Miller

cute

Ayden Hernandez
Ayden Hernandez

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Lincoln Moore
Lincoln Moore

big fat ass jiggling on bbc

Logan Nelson
Logan Nelson

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Andrew Richardson
Andrew Richardson

that's the stuff

Dylan White
Dylan White

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John Lee
John Lee

not into the cucking part tbh, just the black cock on young white teens, i'm mexican so i have a dark dick and most interracial porn fits me right if you know what i'm saying

Oliver Wood
Oliver Wood

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Ethan Jones
Ethan Jones

ok gonna share mines now

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Tyler Collins
Tyler Collins

lgbt people which exist independently of Capitalism and modern society have historically been a oppressed and marginalized group and only under the advances in very recent human society along with human rights brought by Liberalism have they as a whole actually been accepted into society rather a then a some individual gay ruling elites who got off with gay stuff because they had power and influence.

Now this group still suffers vast social problems and even economic and political restrictions in the first world let alone the third and the mental illness rate within them in because of all of this but too say
just me or is there an implicit homosexuality in fascist discourse
It's just you because the vast majority of lgbt people are somewhat left wing or the "left of Liberalism" because centrists don't extend protections and medical care and the right want to restrict or just plain kill lgbt people you can cherry pick some homo fascists (who were almost certainly over propagandized in their homoness by the Nazis later) but you only need to take a look at lgbt people bring thrown in death camps to see where fascist discourse on lgbt issues lie. It's like the Black Nazi images and then saying it's proof Nazi's wern't racist.
Take the United States: ask any American why you should support the military/police and their answer almost always ends up either in porcine rage or (if you get lucky) a lengthy diatribe about how "hard" it is.
This is just plain bootlicking

Perhaps some lgbt people are spooked into the right-wing because Muslims don't exactly treat them very well and it's a easy point to scream about but they represent a insanely small amount of fascists and their fellow right-wing lackies. 4chan trap fascists do not exist in any meaningful amount and are mere mentally ill individuals gravitating to extremist 4chan memes rather then political ideologue attracting them because they are lgbt.

John Myers
John Myers

bad boy

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Connor Collins
Connor Collins

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Charles Gonzalez
Charles Gonzalez

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Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher

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David Smith
David Smith

If you must just post your weird porn over and over, head on to leftytrash. And at least have the decency to spoiler.

Camden Phillips
Camden Phillips

implicit
Somebody post the edit of this.

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Jack Barnes
Jack Barnes

Isn't the original one the one where Hitler starts sucking the statue's dick?

Christopher Allen
Christopher Allen

ClipboardImage.png
look at the filenames

then see

Lincoln Collins
Lincoln Collins

All right-wing ideology comes from the idealism of the Roman Empire, from the white supremacy to the glory of masculinity. If you read about the emporers, you will find out that they were all sexually deviant and permissable. Roman society was based around worshipping the penis. Roman soldiers would rape their defeated enemies in battle, raping young boy slaves was acceptable under private property laws. Homosexuality was accepted as long as it never involved "freemen" (citizens) being bottoms, since this is degrading to manhood, so you could fuck as many misfit men as possible and it be fine.

In terms of my thoughts on Roman idealism driving right-wing thought, Ayn Rand made an unusual statement in her book "The Virtue of Selfishness" in which she claimed to be wholly against hedonism (Epicureanism) because [reasons]. Later, I discovered that the Romans actually also opposed Epicureanism in all forms and destroyed all communes in Europe in place of Imperial rule. She was also influenced by Aristotle, whom believed that slavery was permissible, which shouldn't surprise anybody either.

Pic related is also an interesting piece of trivia: it is called the Warren Cup and depicts a Roman having sex with a young boy rather forcefully, whilst on the other side it is supposed to show a Greek be more tender with a boy, to show the altered attitudes concerning sexuality in both societies. One sees sex as pleasurable, whereas the other sees sex as an extension of an existential exercise in masculinity, the latter, you can relate to modern conservatives and fascists today. Obsession with masculinity could also relate to an unconscious link to these barbaric times, which is why all these conservatives seem to project guilt of pedophilic thoughts onto others, if you believe in Jung's collective unconscious and all that. I think the nazis had plans to groom the most intelligent boys in their society for [reasons] too.

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Carter Stewart
Carter Stewart

Roman soldiers would rape their defeated enemies in battle

Hot ngl

Juan Morris
Juan Morris

You're right, and the only reason why I have read so much on Roman attitudes concerning homosexuality was to get off. It is pretty interesting in a larger political analysis though.

David Cox
David Cox

ywn never be a young greek twink getting tenderly pounded by your senpai
wtf life isn't fair

David Williams
David Williams

Except ancient Romans weren’t even white supremacists. They thought most Europeans were literally shit smeared savages.

Carson Lewis
Carson Lewis

You both belong in a gulag.

Kevin Howard
Kevin Howard

They made God and Jesus white guys, to symbolise the ascension of the white race above others.

Aaron Carter
Aaron Carter

puritan

Bentley White
Bentley White

Except ancient Romans weren’t even white supremacists. They thought most Europeans were literally shit smeared savages.
That's hardly relevant, you have polish and russian nazis or black white supremacists. That Rome's reality was very different from and incompatible with the modern right does not change the ideological function 'Rome' fulfils for fascism.

Caleb Brooks
Caleb Brooks

Roman depictions of Jesus showed him as all kinds of colours. The concept of “white” as we understand it didn’t exist at the time. A Roman would kill you for suggesting that he was the same race as a Gaul.

Connor Baker
Connor Baker

All right-wing ideology comes from the idealism of the Roman Empire, from the white supremacy to the glory of masculinity.
pic related
If you read about the emporers, you will find out that they were all sexually deviant and permissable.
You mean all the emperors after Augustus, perhaps, but even that's incorrect…

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Ian Cook
Ian Cook

You mean all the emperors after Augustus, perhaps, but even that's incorrect…
M8 Augustus was the first emperor. All of the emperors were after him.

Adrian Peterson
Adrian Peterson

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporus

Evan Richardson
Evan Richardson

Well, people used to have this opinion, yes.

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Jackson Wright
Jackson Wright

Augustus was 1st emperor yes, but he was not "sexually deviant" he actually implemented a system to try and curb perceived fun.
read a history book

Noah Nguyen
Noah Nguyen

Zig Forums
reading

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

Pederasty in Rome was almost exclusively a Greek import.

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

Rome was almost exclusively a Greek import.
ftfy

Julian Bailey
Julian Bailey

Roman society regarding Greek influence was basically divided into two groups: one were Greek fanboys who idolized and consumed everything Greek and the others were hardcore conservative Romans who thought Greeks were faggy weak foreigners.

Check Cato the Elder's opinion on Greeks, he absolutely hated them and considered their habits inferior compared to old Roman mos maiorum. He especially bitched about pederasty, according to him it didn't exist in Rome as a practice at all before Roman soldiers brought it to Italy upon returning from campaigns in Greece.

Henry Garcia
Henry Garcia

any PDFs which compartmentalise this information?

Owen Ward
Owen Ward

Kind of an interesting article here on the homoeroticism of fascism: bostonreview.net/politics-gender-sexuality/daniel-penny-milosexual-and-aesthetics-fascism

Just anecdotally, I'm gay and fascism looks blazingly homoerotic to me, almost like if they stole their style from gay clubs. The ultimate fascist fantasy to me is to hold your male lover in your arms as you both die as an artillery shell lands in your foxhole. Anyways, I have to confess that I was attracted to fascism at one point. Glad I never became one.
From that article:
Exploring the motivations for gay fascist sex among Nazis and Neo-Nazis, sociologist Klaus Theweleit notes in his classic study, Male Fantasies Vol. 2: Male Bodies – Psychoanalyzing the White Terror (1989), the potential for these encounters to enforce power positions within a group. “The anus is identified as the site of aggression precisely because of its potential to produce vast deterritorializations” in unwilling victims while in turn producing “some form of wholeness in the persecutor.” One need only recall the shower rape depicted in American History X (1998) to understand the essential role of sex between fascist men as both a sexual outlet and a tool of violence and control. Yet as Theweleit notes, though homosexual intercourse is typically forbidden in fascist ideologies, the burden of shame is rarely distributed equally, such that “taking the ‘passive’ role in anal intercourse becomes a particularly pronounced form of degradation.” To be the top is to be a “moral degenerate” (as in the case of Röhm), but to be the bottom is unspeakable.

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Connor Gray
Connor Gray

ultimate fascist fantasy is to hold your male lover as an "artillery shell lands in your foxhole" (interesting choice of words)

youtu.be/PvZOVMmRYdA

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Anthony Baker
Anthony Baker

The ultimate fascist fantasy to me is to hold your male lover in your arms as you both die as an artillery shell lands in your foxhole.
this sort of shit is rife among the /pol/yps who blight /cuteboys/

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Anthony Myers
Anthony Myers

ultimate fascist fantasy is to hold your male lover as an "artillery shell lands in your foxhole" (interesting choice of words)
wtf, i love fascism now

Gavin Thompson
Gavin Thompson

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Zachary Peterson
Zachary Peterson

based

Connor Gray
Connor Gray

The gayest thing about fascism is their love of the nation. It really comes down to a homosexual fantasy of being dominated by a collective of strong sexy men. They want to be punished and disciplined, but at the same time, cared for and loved unconditionally. Being put in their place by their superiors feels great to them. It's shameful, but the good kind of shameful.

Mason James
Mason James

Someone should draw a porn comic making the homoerotic logic of fascism explicit. It would be a brilliant piece of propaganda.

Henry Anderson
Henry Anderson

Comr8…

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Christopher Hernandez
Christopher Hernandez

IIRC Cockshott proved that gays make more money than straight males so they are not working class.

Hunter Evans
Hunter Evans

so they are not working class.

He didn't say this but because gays tend to make more money the logical course of action when they are subjected to less wages they become reactionary.

David Harris
David Harris

Just anecdotally, I'm gay and fascism looks blazingly homoerotic to me, almost like if they stole their style from gay clubs.

According to one Christfag history author the Munich bar that Hitler did his putsh was a well-known gay bar.

Gabriel Nguyen
Gabriel Nguyen

Please take a statistics class

Joshua Foster
Joshua Foster

one worker makes more money than other workers so they're not workers

Kevin Richardson
Kevin Richardson

Wow! That scene
St. Sebastian!!! Hahahaha yes. He is a famous gay icon. Downright classical. I have a printout posted up on my fridge.
Cockshott has a lot of interesting and insightful things to say but he's a moron on this who mainly relies on consumer surveys from marketing companies (as a communist he should know better).

Anyways I don't know what else to say about gay fascists, but it's way cooler and more fun to be a gay communist like George Michael: youtube.com/watch?v=Kvx2GgKyIy0

Also the Communards and their offshoot Bronski Beat: youtube.com/watch?v=wcRnMfZyYrw

Pet Shop Boys too, kinda. At least crypto-commies. They did a score to Battleship Potemkin and will add Karl Marx references in songs/videos: youtu.be/UuNBJkLLnOs?t=78

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