Is there an actual turd position you can take politically that's separate from the left/right axis or is it all just...

Is there an actual turd position you can take politically that's separate from the left/right axis or is it all just cyrpto-fascist larp?

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No, turd position is a meme for "fascism isn't capitalist guys" types or reactionary socdems like Asserists. The closest thing there's been to a turd position is probably agrarian socialism

turd position IS right-wing. It’s beyond Marxism and capitalism

To clarify it takes reactionary political stances on culture, believes in hierarchy, nationalism, sometimes race and synthesizes it with radical left economic views. Strass.er also wrote about de-urbanization of society, a reagrianization of Germany and how work should not be the only goal of life

Big think if you somehow you think this isn't conservative

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Quite the opposite. Simply going back into the past is not the solution. Conservatives have failed to conserve anythinf

Fascists are just radical conservatives. In the same way that Marxists are taking the liberal ideals to their logical conclusion (freedom from masters as well as gods and kings).

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Stuff like Unabomber, The Giver.

Marx talked about Corporate Guilds to keep petty bougerious around.

I read a site that Troy Southgate's idea is that the Apocalypse would force National Proudhonism

All and all basically Anarchism which is an Idealist ideology like Fascism. It's not surprising that Zig Forums used to be full of Anarkiddies and became Fascist when reality hit them. The Nazis used to attend Anarchist meetings and Mussi liked Anarchism.

You can be anyone you want to be, and think any way you want to think. The possibilities for what kind of beliefs you could hold are practically endless. But the fact that you think there are only two choices, and you're currently struggling just to consider there might be three, just shows you are a natural slave. So don't worry yourself too much with hard stuff like thinking.

This is how braindead nazis actually "think".

Fascism is the real radical centrism
It's still shit though

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Distributism

it is all crypto-fascist larp for people who pretend to have read let alone understood Marx

Anything that is not left-wing is ultimately fascist or relies on fascist forces in moments of crisis.

Actual turd positionism would be an ideology that supports the dominance of a third class other than the proletariat and the bourgeoisie.

Russian Left-SRs were turd positionist since they believed the peasantry was the revolutionary class. Neofeudalism would technically be turd positionist. I guess primitivism is turd positionist also.

Anything that normally gets called turd positionism is just right-wing class collaborationism though.

Surely that would also make Mao a third posititionist and lots of anarchists Bakunin for example who thought the peasantry and Lumpen were revolutionary? Also the black panthers

Well the difference was that the Left-SRs didn't just recognize the peasantry's revolutionary potential, they believed it to be superior to the working class'

The Giver?

It's a book about a society where basically in order to make everyone equal everything that makes everyone different is gone.

I'm not sure if anarchist analysis of classed society would define lumpen a separate class? Given the transient nature of the very idea I don't know if it's even anything more than a subset of the waged working class

On reflection, it seems to me that the lumpenproletariat, to an extent, defy social classification though the same measures you'd use to classify the rest of society, specifically because you need to examine them through the lens of society, and by the definition of the concept of the lumpens, they are on the fringe of structured society rather than being a definite part of it.

WHO HERE
NAZPROUD GANG?

How about Gaddafi?

You would consider marx a fascist

Liberals are further right than most fascists on the issues that matter