Hi leftypol, seeking assistance of the role of the Jews in China

Evan Gomez
Evan Gomez

Leftypol I seek help in confirming and alternatively refuting the pic related which I have found on /pol/.
inb4 ban
inb4 reactionary
Hard mode: sources and citations
I just want to understand the situation, clarify and clear the contradictions

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Other urls found in this thread:

lorddreadnought.livejournal.com/37272.html
taylorfrancis.com/books/9781136835094
archive.org/details/FinnJamesTheJewsInChina
play.google.com/store/books/details?id=8Z6DlzyT2vwC
desuarchive.org/marx/thread/13097/
archive.is/AAEFe
desuarchive.org/marx/thread/7600/

Ryder Morgan
Ryder Morgan

Banned for being reactionary.

Ethan Williams
Ethan Williams

There are basically no Jews in China and Jews have had a very minimal role in Chinese history. To suggest otherwise, or even suggest that the Chinese are somehow secretly ruled by is to twist recent Chinese history and modern politics to its breaking point to serve a retarded Nazi narrative.

Brody Taylor
Brody Taylor

That is really not helping at all… not a good start to the thread

Adam Diaz
Adam Diaz

Israel Epstein
minister of appropriations
Literally the only place I can find this is other conspiracy websites like this one lorddreadnought.livejournal.com/37272.html
There is no source for it. The rest of the pic is a bunch of "supposedly"s, conjecture, and assumptions based on proximity. The picture with the journalists is described as "high level" for no sourced reason. Its just another example of making a bunch of flimsy accusations and expecting it to hold because they are all presented together.

Noah Bailey
Noah Bailey

Even so, I would like some sources on for and against. I seek help from the more learned in leftypol.

Christopher Stewart
Christopher Stewart

You won't find anything because there isn't anything. As you have already been told Jews play no significant roll in China and very few Jews live there.

Carson Gonzalez
Carson Gonzalez

taylorfrancis.com/books/9781136835094
archive.org/details/FinnJamesTheJewsInChina
play.google.com/store/books/details?id=8Z6DlzyT2vwC

Leo Wood
Leo Wood

you're going to want to be sitting down on a low surface for this:

China is behind the jews

Tyler Cruz
Tyler Cruz

literally nothing in that photo proves jacks shit, all it's assertions are unverified, the few parts that are verified is sht that has nothing to do with the overall claim that somehow jews played a major role in the creation, maintenance, and control of the PRC

Brandon Taylor
Brandon Taylor

fully weaponized autism over at >>/marx/
desuarchive.org/marx/thread/13097/
maybe even make a clone thread and see what pops up.

Easton Hall
Easton Hall

look, here's a jew. He probably did something bad
oh look, another jew, what are the odds he did something bad?
well would you look at that, it's a jew. He's definitely bad
Ebic

Parker Moore
Parker Moore

no its pretty solid evidence

Lucas Ortiz
Lucas Ortiz

/pol/ tier infographs
pretty solid evidence

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Ryan Nguyen
Ryan Nguyen

<everything I don't like is pol

why are there so many jews in China then?
Why can you never answer simple observations

Jace Parker
Jace Parker

Creating bullshit infographs is a pretty /pol/ thing to do.

Even if all that shit was true, which is isn't, the above examples I just posted demonstrate how this format can be incredibly misleading.

John Long
John Long

why are there so many jews in China then?
There are like 3000 jews in China with a population of a billion.

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Parker Thomas
Parker Thomas

Creating bullshit infographs is a pretty /pol/ thing to do.
<points I can't contest are just bullshit

Even if all that shit was true, which is isn't,
it is though and you have no response to it.
why

Grayson Price
Grayson Price

There are like 3000 jews in China with a population of a billion.
yet why are they so involved with chinese government?

Dylan Sanchez
Dylan Sanchez

They aren't. A few examples of some jews being commited to communism and helping a communist government is not proof of some jewish conspiracy.
If I can find some Americans involved with the chinese government, will that prove Americans control the CPC?
Your logic rests on jews being nefarious beings, and any jew involved with anything must be out to control it or something.

Connor Young
Connor Young

People already responded in this thread that trying to look up anything asserted in the infograph yields nothing.

Jordan Morgan
Jordan Morgan

They aren't.
they are
A few examples of some jews being commited to communism and helping a communist government
why are they so over represented in chinese government then?
is not proof of some jewish conspiracy.
I never said this stop trying to strawman

If I can find some Americans involved with the chinese government, will that prove Americans control the CPC?
You could then ask questions to why Americans are involved with Chinese government and come to conclusions henceforth

However you're just trying to evade the question at this point

Your logic rests on jews being nefarious beings, and any jew involved with anything must be out to control it or something.
more strawman arguments

Henry Hill
Henry Hill

You're either arguing in bad faith or just ignorant of proper research

David Cooper
David Cooper

Kaifeng have nothing to do with /pol/'s delusion about jewry. They're ethnically Han chinese and not ashkeNAZI, and based Xi suppresses their mythological opiate anyways.

archive.is/AAEFe

Kevin White
Kevin White

They're also demographically irrelevant.

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Parker Brown
Parker Brown

why are they so over represented in chinese government then?
Prove to me that they are.
You could then ask questions to why Americans are involved with Chinese government and come to conclusions henceforth
Because they are communists and want to aid a communist government? Not everyone is brainwashed by ethnicity and nationalism like you, /pol/.

Nicholas Nguyen
Nicholas Nguyen

Prove to me that they are.
see OP's pic

Because they are communists and want to aid a communist government? Not everyone is brainwashed by ethnicity and nationalism like you, /pol/.

arguing against points I never made

<hurr everyone I don't like is pol
2/10

Samuel Williams
Samuel Williams

OP's pic does not prove anyone is overrepresented, it shows a few jews being involved with the CPC over the past 70 years.
omg look there are some jews, it must be because jews are subverting something
not /pol/ btw i promise

Hudson Edwards
Hudson Edwards

<look at all this shit I just made up
debunk me libtards!
epic thread

Aiden Cooper
Aiden Cooper

OP's pic does not prove anyone is overrepresented, it shows a few jews being involved with the CPC over the past 70 years.
you answered your own question

omg look there are some jews, it must be because jews are subverting something
not /pol/ btw i promise
this is just shitposting due to a lack of an argument.

Easton Rogers
Easton Rogers

bumping because you saged

Jackson Baker
Jackson Baker

from desuarchive.org/marx/thread/7600/

Rewi Alley did not organize "communes" in China. He belonged to a group called the Chinese Industrial Cooperatives, which was supported by the Chiang Kai-shek government (e.g. its initial backers included Chiang's wife and Finance Minister Kong Xiangxi) due to its efforts to promote the development of Chinese industry during a time when the Japanese invaders had wrecked the economy.

Sidney Rittenberg worked as a translator, so naturally he would be in a position to "observe" the Chinese leaders whom he assisted. Observation doesn't imply control, especially considering that (as one biography notes) "[during the Cultural Revolution] he ran afoul of Jiang Qing, Mao's wife and member of the Gang of Four, and was sent to solitary for another 10 years" ("another" because he was also in confinement in the late 40s and early 50s as a supposed American spy.)

The CPC honored Epstein, Alley, Rittenberg and others for their contributions to Sino-American friendship and to helping publicize the cause of the Chinese people against internal reaction and the Japanese invaders during the 1930s-40s. Just like it honored the same contributions made by non-Jews like Edgar Snow, Anna Louise Strong, Agnes Smedley, and so on.

I could investigate other points made in these images, but I think I've already demonstrated that they contain numerous falsehoods, distortions, and stupid logic (like the one on China is largely just "OH MY GOD LOOK IT'S MAO AND ZHOU ENLAI WITH JEWS, THIS PROVES THE CPC IS RUN BY JEWS!!!")

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Samuel Ward
Samuel Ward

Jews propagate communism, what is so hard to understand?

Owen Peterson
Owen Peterson

How does /marx/ respond to "Marxism is a Jewish conspiracy"
desuarchive.org/marx/thread/7600/

Michael Roberts
Michael Roberts

you answered your own question
I didn't ask a question.

Brody Sanchez
Brody Sanchez

I seek help in confirming and alternatively refuting the pic related which I have found on /pol/
<Image has no citations except for fucking wikipedia
Here's a crazy idea: why don't you do your own research? You know what they say about teaching a man to fish vs. giving him a fish? We're not always going to be here to help out especially if you meet some /pol/tard or other autist IRL, you gotta research and think for yourself. Besides it's fucking /pol/, they lie about everything. It's just not worth it.
I appreciate the link, but you're doing it wrong. Follow my formatting, comrade:

desuarchive.org/marx/thread/7600/

Carter Adams
Carter Adams

More proof that /pol/ is fucking schizophrenic. The fact that a couple Jews are involved in the CCP does nothing to prove the existence of a Jewish conspiracy. Plus, shitty unsourced infographics aren't evidence.

Juan Morales
Juan Morales

More proof that leftypol is schizophrenic. Any mention of jews MUST be some pol conspiracy

More proof that /pol/ is fucking schizophrenic. The fact that a couple Jews are involved in the CCP does nothing to prove the existence of a Jewish conspiracy. Plus, shitty unsourced infographics aren't evidence.

the infographic is just questioning why there are so many jews in the Chinese government and why is criticizing them illegal?
Also the infograph is sources

Daniel Davis
Daniel Davis

shows like 10 jews being involved with the CPC over a 70 year span
why r thr so many joos??? just asking questons

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Joseph Rivera
Joseph Rivera

Remeber comrade these spergs are so spooked that even one jew is too many

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Jace Morales
Jace Morales

Thats just one autistic weebshit MAGA tard that has been collecting random photos and slapping made up lies and absurd conjecture next to them, pretending to be ignorant that they are pretty much all wrong. Like labeling the collaboration of a Jew with the nationalist enemies of the CCP as collaboration with the CCP, that minister post Epstein never held, the entire claim that China made an exception for Jews to join the party while they would ban any foreigners when that simply wasnt the case at the time and non-jewish Americans had joined the party already before. Or selling high profile American politicians meeting with Chinese politicians as Jew asserting rule over China.

Throws in a few meaningless or missleading (like putting "observation" of Rittenberg in quotes as if that wasnt just exactly what he did before he returned to America) and out of context quotemines and alterered (like the politburo thing) fake quotes from Wikipedia to make it seem to be backed by at least some sources.

Sneaks in completely baseless flat earth conspiracies like Jews not being allowed to be named or that bullshit about the completely irrelevant banker Robert Lawrence knowing ahead about the next president.

Hes been called out on everything already. Its just a pile of long debunked trash and the OP who keeps insiting it proofs shitall sounds like he is the same faggot who made it.

It was shorter a year ago but that tard has just doubled down on everything he got called out on and added more lies just to specifically contradict the facts he got called out on. Like adding exactly only Epsteins cover story Epstein used to infiltrate and spy on China for the Soviet Union. Or a handful of Jews all of them with irrelevant positions among several million members over decades contradicting the entire overrepresentation narrative and proving the exact opposite, was doubled down by adding that they "actually" belonged to some elite inner circles and special positions. Of course "secretly".

Gabriel Taylor
Gabriel Taylor

I would to thank the anons for post some kind of evidence for reference even if they were not immediate to my OP, the effort and though is appreciated.

As for those who just could not contain themselves in saging the thread and hypocritically accusing pol of reactionary behaviour while not ascertaining, based on evidence, background of the individuals in question. I find the pandering to China nothing short of the sort of pandering that capitalists and neoliberals have been extending while trying to cover its deeply concerning shortcomings. Like the claims in the South China Sea which violated the EEZ of several countries in the region like fellow Communist Vietnam.

Nevertheless, myself and other comrades have been ardently debating on /pol/ to clear the name of communism and socialism. The clearing of the name of communism from defamation which has gone many years unchecked has now become synonymous with religious extremists of the bourgeoisie (Zionists and Wall Street Bankers). Myself and other comrades have been borderline verbally abused and I just seek some help as I attend to other issues I know more about than jews in China.

Thanks once again to those that provided sources, hopefully there can be more development in this thread.