Enjoying the fruits of capitalistic overabundance and the circuses that are...

Caleb Gutierrez
Caleb Gutierrez

Bro, capitalism has failed us and we need to have a working class revolution
B-but I'm still gonna get my anime and vidya, r-right?
Enjoying the fruits of capitalistic overabundance and the circuses that are provided as such is hypocritical.
(>you criticse society, yet live under it :-DDD)

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Jayden Gomez
Jayden Gomez

As long as the internet exists we'll have all the access in the world to the archives of anime and vidya. That being said revolution will probably prevent us from indulging in such frivolous activities for a good minute.

Easton Johnson
Easton Johnson

i have never heard this argument before, and you have debunked every single marxist theoretician. i can't believe Marx didn't think about this and le human nature.

Levi Wright
Levi Wright

I don't want to live in some communal, agrarian shithole dictated by ideological puritanical autists who hate any form of fun as "capitalist reactionary REEEE".

If you ideal "utopia" is the dead Soviet Union or a dead shitty anarchist commune, you are fucked in the head.
It's like you aren't being oppressed enough.

Tankies should be forced into Chinese manual labour.
Anarchists should be shot by the CCP.
Fascists should be gassed by the CCP.

Jackson Jenkins
Jackson Jenkins

if ur against capatalism why du u eat evry day????? CHEKMATE COMMMUNGISTS

Ryder Anderson
Ryder Anderson

Food, clothing, and the means of production are not equivalent to wasteful and frivolous fetishes.

Jayden Ward
Jayden Ward

So what?

Colton Johnson
Colton Johnson

My point, contrary to what a certain jannie believes, is not that you can't live in society or even have fun without wanting to reform it, but that a lifelong devotion to commodity fetishes is not compatible with a rejection of capitalist thought, unless you acknowledge you have an addiction issue and wish to overcome it.

Joshua Bailey
Joshua Bailey

commodity fetishes
Doesn't mean what you think it means.
Would you also argue that a lifelong devotion to music, theatre, sports etc is not compatible with a rejection of capitalist thought? Are you arguing that anything produced under capitalism is inherently bad?
I still don't understand your point.

Connor Sanchez
Connor Sanchez

I know what a commodity fetish is. Anime figurines made of cheap plastic in sweatshops are a textbook commodity fetish.
And none of the things you mentioned are bad on their own, nor is anime or video games. My point is that whenever individuals buy into the fetishism inherent in the industries around these hobbies, they promote a system directly. This promotion can be avoided, unlike having the basic needs for a comfortable life in the modern industrialized world.

Chase Roberts
Chase Roberts

I know what a commodity fetish is. Anime figurines made of cheap plastic in sweatshops are a textbook commodity fetish.
No.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism
My point is that whenever individuals buy into the fetishism inherent in the industries around these hobbies, they promote a system directly.
How do they "promote a system (presumeably captialism?) directly"? By giving money to the industries? This, again, applies to everything you buy, regardless of whether you have a hobby or not. I still don't understand your point, and I don't think you do either.

Josiah Martinez
Josiah Martinez

As such, commodity fetishism transforms the subjective, abstract aspects of economic value into objective, real things that people believe have intrinsic value.
That completely applies to both intellectual property that is sold at exorbitant prices for profit and merchandise. An anime figure is a commodity fetish.
This, again, applies to everything you buy, regardless of whether you have a hobby or not.
You can make the choice to limit your spending to more ethical industries or producers that respect the rights of workers.

Christopher Rivera
Christopher Rivera

You can make the choice to limit your spending to more ethical industries or producers that respect the rights of workers.
Ethical consumption is a myth. Surplus value is extracted regardless of how well the capitalists treat their slaves.

Eli Kelly
Eli Kelly

If you believe that to be so, then you can agree it is best to limit your contribution to consumption in any way you can, correct? Which means consuming frivolities is unethical.

Grayson Nguyen
Grayson Nguyen

Ethical consumption under capitalism doesn't exist, fuck off.

Nicholas Cooper
Nicholas Cooper

Not really. I dislike consumer culture very much and don't spend much money on anything. I pirate my videogames and TV shows, not out of any ethical position, but because I don't wanna waste money, because I don't want to work much.

James Brooks
James Brooks

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Gavin Lopez
Gavin Lopez

ethical consumption doesn't exist
the logical conclusion is therefore to consume more

Ethan Allen
Ethan Allen

A socialist revolution isn't suddenly gonna destroy all computers and consoles and the black block don't go around smashing videogames and having book burnings of anime last I checked.
If anything those hobbies would be more indulged in during a revolution as they are relatively low maintenance compared to something like amusement parks, golfing or yachting, the truly decadent hobbies, which most working class ppl don't have access to anyways.
Ofcourse the standard for entertainment would most likely drop during a revolution, as it does with any war, but the ideal revolution would be swift and able to restore a sustainable level of entertainment for everyone.

Jacob Lewis
Jacob Lewis

That's not at all what the OP is saying and you should feel bad.

Joshua Price
Joshua Price

Anime and Videogames are notorious for having some of the worst treated workers out of any industry.

Christopher Morgan
Christopher Morgan

That just means that quality of vidya and anime might just increase during and after a revolution. Even more of a reason to be socialist as a weeb or a gamer then.

Kayden Fisher
Kayden Fisher

Theoretically quality of games would get better in communism, because people wouldn't be doing games for money, but because it's their hobby. You wouldn't get CoD/Sonic/whatever shitty game every year and also no shitty microtransactions.

Andrew Jackson
Andrew Jackson

The best types of media that exist under capitalism are the ones that criticize it. Who's to say that when it's abolished, people are going to find more and better art to make, that doesn't have to incentivize paying for shit?

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Landon Watson
Landon Watson

video games would still exist as long as there was enough time to allocate towards producing them. Video games after all started as an innocent curiosity before being exploited capitalistically in later decades; this trend is also reflected in other media like music and movies. Same with animation but animation is a lot harder to produce by yourself.

I would say goodbye to anything that had like a huge budget though unless people were willing to wait. I could see large scale projects happening in a sort of open source community or something.

also its possible that if a revolution occurred by trying to seize the internet instead of trying to fight a completely outmatched war, the internet may not even be cut off, allowing a gradual transition without the downsides of a traditional revolution

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