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Sneak Peek – Possible US Army SCW Prototype from Maxim Defense
Jose Bailey
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Hudson Carter
But this can be achieved with an SMG, so why?
Jack Morgan
Ugly abomination.
i know, specifically crafted to buy abominations.
Luis Collins
What bizarre requirements have they listed that somehow exclude every single 9mm carbine and SMGs? Are they requiring that they be manufactured in designated congressional districts again?
Eli Taylor
Why would the US army ask for a compatibility with a gun they don't use?
Oh, they wouldn't? And it's entirely bullshit? Ok then.
Benjamin Flores
The main disqualifiers are total length with stock extended and the magazine placement in front of the grip.
High-cap Glock magazines are ubiquitous and known for reliability, with a focus on the former in relation to acquirement for the US Army.
Henry Fisher
Why? Can't they use an MP5K? Or something way less ugly?
Michael Bell
The MP5 was considered but the overall length was a problem. People thought they were setting up the requirements for the MPX because SIG, but even that gun doesn't fit.
Parker Brooks
I think I found a weapon that would be perfect for this! It just needs a 9mm Parabellum barrel and an ugly wirestock.
Christopher Perez
Can't they convert some MP5s to MP5Ks? Am I stupid?
Jacob Hughes
Ah shit I am. Disregard.
Jack Martin
a) cheap to acquire
b) you can "lose" some to the alphabet soup restaurants
c) law enforcement surplus won't have any trouble
Camden Morales
The C96 has a lot of modernization potential.
Isaiah Price
Jaxon Davis
I'm not sure if modernizing the C96 is a good idea, as today you could do something much better if you designed a new pistol. But given their requirements, it sounds like they want a pistol with a stock that has the magazine forward of the grip. And that's why all the submachine guns are too big.
Michael Edwards
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Henry Scott
Come on.
David Evans
"Why don't they just have a slot on the back of the grip like they did on a few old handguns?"
Oh that's right we have to do everything the stupid way because of government being obtuse, silly me.
Xavier Morris
The idea is to have the full thing holstered (with light and aimpoint), it's originally on a custom CZ-75 by b+t.
The idea being you start with a 15 but your other mags are 30. You can use it just like a really nice pistol but if you drilled it you can use it as a 9mm carbine instantly.
The main problem with old pistol stocks is that either you have a carbine or you have a handgun and you probably never have the one you want when you need it…
Leo White
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650 rounds/min
625 rounds/min (M16K-45)
John Parker
It's too long. They ask for 15'' OAL.
William Wilson
I was refering to the gas system,it turns a m16 into a grease gun.