First female F-16 demo team commander relieved of duty after two weeks

Jordan Phillips
Jordan Phillips

Capt. Zoe Kotnik, whose call sign was SiS, was announced with much fanfare as the first female pilot to head the F-16 Viper demonstration team on Jan. 29. Labeled the real life "Wonder Woman" at the ceramony, she was relieved of command Monday due to a loss of confidence in her ability to lead and command.
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Dominic Rodriguez
Dominic Rodriguez

I'd relieve my duty on her face

Easton Gutierrez
Easton Gutierrez

Despite gommunism, we don't let wymyn fly our jets. We do unfortunately let them fly choppers though.

Christian Reed
Christian Reed

Imagine going through rigorous training, actual combat sorties and then being put in a demonstration squad and having to take orders from some grating high-pitched whumyn who acts like hot shit because >first female

Gabriel Parker
Gabriel Parker

This was the work of Mihaly Dumitru Margareta Corneliu Leopold Blanca Karol Aeon Ignatius Raphael Maria Niketas A. Shilage.

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Jeremiah Miller
Jeremiah Miller

Well, at least they bullied her back into submission and she quit

Sebastian Kelly
Sebastian Kelly

F-16V not Vagina-compatible

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Noah Phillips
Noah Phillips

The state of modern military saddens me.

Lincoln Richardson
Lincoln Richardson

Good one.

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Aaron Butler
Aaron Butler

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Evan Butler
Evan Butler

If you read the article her commanders 'lost confidence' in her ability to lead the team after a series of mistakes that they won't give the details on. Presumably it didn't involve a fatality, as I'm pretty sure that even in Wiemar America those are matters of public record - what sort of non-lethal fuck up would cost a PR friendly, face of their ad campaigns, diversity officer her position?

Mason Butler
Mason Butler

first female to go through Ranger school had confirmed assistance
first female led Marine squad was determined combat ineffective
now this

When will real Men learn not to make the same mistakes anymore?

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Ryan Williams
Ryan Williams

When the globohomo-era ends.

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Jaxon Walker
Jaxon Walker

They probably found her in the barracks sucking off all her men.

Nathaniel Jenkins
Nathaniel Jenkins

Even if we allowed women to fly combat jets in order to prevent squads from being sausagefests one should never allow women at leading roles, it's not only potentially catastrophic due to females' bad decisions but also taking orders from a woman is greatly demoralizing.

Brayden Bailey
Brayden Bailey

Just don't allow women. It's not that hard.
The only time you can is if they had one dimension less in most cases.

Christopher Taylor
Christopher Taylor

I'd imagine her ego would be so big it was in danger of collapsing under its own weight - she'd think it was 'beneath herself' to fuck her subordinates (and probably saw it as beneath herself to treat them like human beings - going from what I've seen of female managers so far). If she was sucking anyones cock it would be the senior officer who promoted/championed her. Maybe she stopped sucking his cock and that's what lead to the demotion? It would either be that or a string of screwups so major that they decided she was doing more harm than they could justify for her PR value.

Justin Fisher
Justin Fisher

That quote should not be attributed to Thucydides. The first recorded use of that saying was in a book written by Sir William Francis Butler.
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Nathaniel Nelson
Nathaniel Nelson

brap on that hOh SiS

Owen Reed
Owen Reed

We'll get the JoJ done right.

Liam Morgan
Liam Morgan

OVER AND OVER AGAIN

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Bentley Long

the first foundation repair YTP was uploaded almost 9 years ago

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Matthew Gonzalez
Matthew Gonzalez

They keep pushing women into male roles and positions
"This is a HUGE STEP FORWARDS!"
"Don't you know it's the current year!"
Consistent, and now almost inevitable fuckups. All the time, every time.
Each incident gets memory holed as soon as it happens so that they can prepare for the next time, which will definitely be the one that works.
What would it actually take to get the people who believe in this to realise that it only fails? At this point it looks like a small nuclear war wouldn't be enough.

Lincoln Moore
Lincoln Moore

You answered your own question.
We need a large nuclear war. Then just muderrape the survivors who didn't learn.

Nicholas Cruz
Nicholas Cruz

that fucking shit nip game
Why was it even relevant to tell us a long ass name like that?

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Wyatt Powell
Wyatt Powell

Wasn't looking for a solution, more wondering what sort of cataclysm would be needed to go beyond the point where they can rationalise it away/conveniently forget it ever happened.

Henry Sanchez
Henry Sanchez

Women have absolutely no place in any military.

William Ortiz
William Ortiz

This
They can be sex slaves though.

Kayden Butler
Kayden Butler

As long as they can fit the same standards as men can I think they should be OK. But that would require the military to actually enforce physical standards in recruiting, which is not going to happen with the current recruiting problems.
The only problem that would remain after the army starts doing that would be pregnancies and STDs. Dunno what to do about those.

Michael Long
Michael Long

Allow the 3% of women who can meet quals to enlist, enforce dishonourable discharge for both the man and the woman if they fraternise, and if necessary have women be relegated to all-female units.

Adrian Thompson
Adrian Thompson

The big difficulty with all-female units is what you do with them.
If you're perceived as sending them into danger too much, people will screech that you're treating women as too disposable. If you're perceived as holding them back from danger, then people will screech that you're giving them unfair special treatment compared to male units that are supposed to be treated the same. Most likely you'd hear both at the same time, regardless of how true either actually was.

Jace Diaz
Jace Diaz

If you're perceived as sending them into danger too much, people will screech that you're treating women as too disposable
Forgot to add the additional drawback of female losses potentially being a larger morale hit than male, body-for-body. Especially if they're captured alive.

Ryan Fisher
Ryan Fisher

Never interrupt your enemy from doing a mistake.

Carter Lopez
Carter Lopez

Psychological deficiencies of wymin are way more severe than their physical ones.

Sometimes you just have to napalm the shit out of that non-White orphanage.

Jaxon Martinez
Jaxon Martinez

As long as they can fit the same standards as men can I think they should be OK.
Men don't bleed out of their crotch every month.

Sebastian Robinson
Sebastian Robinson

As long as they can fit the same standards as men can I think they should be OK
Imagine STILL falling for this myth.

Lincoln Phillips
Lincoln Phillips

What about Japans 'comfort women' That seems to indicate a positive, and possibly necessary, role that women could play at least for the military.

At this point the enemy's mistake is harming us. Should we still not interrupt it?

As long as they can fit the same standards as men can I think they should be OK
Great. They've already been demanding a separate and much much lower standard for women to be 'fair'. This has been going on for years (potentially a decade or more at this point, it's hard to pin down a definitive start date), it's become unavoidably clear that only the upper ~0.0001 of the top percentile can manage that.

But that would require the military to actually enforce physical standards in recruiting
So that's never, for as long as the military remains a political issue.

The only problem that would remain after the army starts doing that would be pregnancies and STDs. Dunno what to do about those.
So the military should take their female recruits, sterilise them, and put them on a mandatory and monitored daily dose of testosterone to keep them 'up to spec' for the duration of their service?

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Jeremiah Bennett
Jeremiah Bennett

What about Japans 'comfort women' That seems to indicate a positive, and possibly necessary, role that women could play at least for the military.
whore earning more than highest ranking officers
good
Also, children and husbands of korean comfort women now run a raparations racket that's holocauster cinematic universe™ lite.

Gavin Gonzalez
Gavin Gonzalez

We live in 2018
That women belong in every field and at every level is still up for discussion
in a time where people are both educated and enlightened
says a lot about those who ask questions like these

The inmates are running the asylum.

Jack Garcia
Jack Garcia

link for those two?

Nathaniel Myers
Nathaniel Myers

Pretty sure it was just to show that he wuz KANGZ and shieeet

Woman should only ever be nurses. Even with a passing physical grade, integrated squads suffer a huge loss of unit cohesion and effectiveness as the men fight to protect the women with their uncontrollable instinct we evolved to have and women fight each other because its what they do. I would hesitate to even trust them with a seemingly lower risk job like cargo, tanker, AWACS or maritime patrol plane crew because of shit like cat fights causing the Fitzgerald collision because the CIC officer was having a cat fight with the navigator.

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Thomas Wilson
Thomas Wilson

So the military should take their female recruits, sterilise them, and put them on a mandatory and monitored daily dose of testosterone to keep them 'up to spec' for the duration of their service?
Just sentence the barren female convicts to unpaid life military services with cyanide injection collars. The problem solved.

Logan Thomas
Logan Thomas

Providing deployed soldiers with whores isn't, in itself, a bad idea. The Japs fucking it up does not disprove this.

Conscripted prisoners generally aren't all that reliable, and do you really want a new generation of commissars running around and making other units lives hell? "Just don't give them authority over other units!", yes, because every officer ever always sticks to their exact purview and never acts like a cunt just because they can

Brandon Ortiz
Brandon Ortiz

You don’t need to put them in the front line. Just give the menial jobs that can give military force profits so they can use the profits to buy the military stuffs.

Camden Bailey
Camden Bailey

When will real Men learn not to make the same mistakes anymore?
When an actual war against a country that can fight back breaks out and forces the US military to be effective (or the US losing a war that affected the home front in the form of lost territory, because of politics preventing efficient military command).

Either a sex scandal or she nearly killed people repeatedly but thankfully didn't get anything that would appear in public records (or she did and the military covered it up because they do that).

Daniel Johnson
Daniel Johnson

Generally the females they put in charge won't suck off their own men because they think they're above them. Now sucking off a room of officers, however…
Honestly even doing something like going to a rave can get you in serious shit in the Chairforce from what I recall. I know an embassy marine who got a promotion because he caught a Colonel at a rave and looked the other way.

Eli Gonzalez
Eli Gonzalez

Forgot to add the additional drawback of female losses potentially being a larger morale hit than male, body-for-body. Especially if they're captured alive.
This, honestly. An enemy force can take as many POWs as they want and do terrible, terrible things to them, and post it all over social media, and the public reaction will be to sigh. If a female combat force was ever taken prisoner and a rape video or some such was posted, it would be heads exploding across just about any country and a giant shit storm.

Angel Jenkins
Angel Jenkins

2 weeks
So was it utter incompetence? They give female incompetence some major leeway so it being 2 weeks implies it was more than just incompetence of command. The base CO also said "she made a mistake".
female
command
she made a mistake
Now that could be a lot of stuff but then I rememeber…
AIRFORCE
The airforce has somehow managed to actually become more pozzed than the navy. In such a pozzed environment the phrase "she made a mistake" seems like very clumsy pc shit. Which, if thats the case, that would mean that the mistake that she made was something that most people would find absolutely disgusting behavior.

didnt read the whole op post
whose call sign was SiS
Yup I am correct.

Anthony James
Anthony James

This, honestly. An enemy force can take as many POWs as they want and do terrible, terrible things to them, and post it all over social media, and the public reaction will be to sigh. If a female combat force was ever taken prisoner and a rape video or some such was posted, it would be heads exploding across just about any country and a giant shit storm.

We've literally seen this play out with that whore.. what was her name? lynch? First off there was a huge fucking thing about it. Guys were getting taken alive and tortured and executed quite frequently, but oh no no no some dumb whore who shouldnt have been allowed there in the first place got captured by sand niggers. It was covered every second of every day. And then there was the rescue raid. I forget exactly how many casualties there were but they were significant considering it was SpecOp raid. I remember when it first happened there were a lot of rumors that a lot of the rangers who were assisting with the raid completely disregarded their training and ran toward the objective as if it were their own mother being tortured.

Hunter Russell
Hunter Russell

giving dumb whores more coddling will make people coddle them less
just let them get raped

Jacob Hill
Jacob Hill

Except there was no "rescue" since she was safe in an Iraqi hospital.

Nolan Watson
Nolan Watson

this tbh

Owen Scott
Owen Scott

Imagine how shit you have to be to get relieved after 14 days

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Liam Ward
Liam Ward

Either a sex scandal or she nearly killed people repeatedly but thankfully didn't get anything that would appear in public records (or she did and the military covered it up because they do that).
14 days though. That sounds almost like she was coming into work black out drunk, calling her CO 'fuckface' in official paperwork, and physically assaulting the men put under her command.

Hudson Lee
Hudson Lee

Possible. She could have also almost crashed her or another pilot's plane due to deliberate orders she gave despite knowing it was incompetent to do so. Planes are expensive.

Alexander Perry
Alexander Perry

Except there was no "rescue" since she was safe in an Iraqi hospital.
Are you trying to imply that the rescue of the lynch whore was mandela effected? There was a big raid on some compound that resulted in numerous casualties.

Owen Myers
Owen Myers

14 days though. That sounds almost like she was coming into work black out drunk, calling her CO 'fuckface' in official paperwork, and physically assaulting the men put under her command.
For attitude that's about what it would take. That or she said "what a bunch of monkeys" talking about nigger ground crews.
She could have also almost crashed her or another pilot's plane due to deliberate orders she gave despite knowing it was incompetent to do so.
On a professional level that would be not even be it. That would earn you an official reprimand (career killer) and chalked off to inexperience in a new position. You need to kill someone to get sacked from a political position. Unless her CO was a women, she would have to have done that several times in two weeks, to justify such extreme.

Josiah Campbell
Josiah Campbell

Pretty sure it was just to show that he wuz KANGZ and shieeet
That's what happens when you don't know when "too much" is too much. It turned a serious cutscene in to a shits and giggles fest. Thus, ruining the intended atmosphere. That's the thing with nips, they've never heard of the concept of brevity. Felt like I was watching a fanfiction with some deepest lore.

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Nathaniel Rodriguez
Nathaniel Rodriguez

ace combat
serious

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Colton Allen
Colton Allen

Look on the bright side, she didn't get anybody killed.

Xavier Gonzalez
Xavier Gonzalez

As far as we know, anyway.

Oliver Collins
Oliver Collins

She probably killed 60 gorillion in just a few swallows

Sebastian Ross
Sebastian Ross

A serious war. Not like bombing mud people, but an actual battle between first world nations where effective combat mattered and replacing lost men mattered even more. Anything less than motherhood propaganda will fail.

Carson Sanders
Carson Sanders

What we need is men and women in the army so we have to dig twice as many toilets, build twice as many cabins to sleep in and fuck up logistics and cargo space so we can carry more tampons and birth control.
Then we only have to deal with the massive psychological differences, the physical differences and the larping retards who think this is a good idea.

Only a Jerry could think of something this stupid. No one else was raised to hate themselves quite that much.

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

They can work as medical staff. Nurses are useful for doing the cleaning, basic support work and giving the men passing through a little relief. Force them on birth control and have a stern man in charge and they will do a fine service.

Caleb Cruz
Caleb Cruz

So that's never then. A war between first world powers (with all the alliances and nukes involved) would end with both sides getting absolutely wrekt the moment one side thinks it's starting to lose. When first world nations want to fuck each other over they don't invade each other, they do economic shit at their enemies and fund terrorists/separatist groups either in the target country or their sphere of influence. We've seen the last of the big wars.

Military nurses tend to become walking STD archives pretty swiftly, they'd need to be on regular rotations between work and recovery, and under pretty much daily sexual health checks while they're in country. It's why I suggested comfort women earlier. It seems that women in the military who aren't given authority often (and rather quickly) become the units fuckhole; so it would make more sense to make that their actual job, select for it, and put them on a program designed to get them preforming that function as effectively as possible.

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

They are not at home birthing white babies? Then everything is great.

Brandon Barnes
Brandon Barnes

She could have and the military just covered it up.

Juan Evans
Juan Evans

Callsign SiS
Slut in Service
Noice.

Logan Sanchez
Logan Sanchez

That's incredibly hard to do in burgerland because of the press and almost everything being public record. Someone die in a plane crash? Press would know. Someone die from an explosion? Press would know. Someone die in an incredibly off way where nobody would really know? The family members tip off the press. Granted, the MSM would try to cover it up, some small local news stations/radio stations/newspaper would usually have something.

Carson Sanchez
Carson Sanchez

What
is alluding to is the quality of women. There genuinely are women capable of serving, although there aren't many. Most of them are of the opinion that "it's different if I do it", which doesn't work in a just society, much less a combat formation.

I really wish you could do studies on how well all female vs all male vs mixed platoons could work. Although I could imagine a harem type, i.e. all female with male NCO, would be a ticking bomb for PR, judging by most reports on all female companies. I bet that NCO would end up having to pay a lot of child support too.

Maybe some french anons can verify this, but I thought the french fly whores out to their FOBs and so on, where they live in special pink containers?

So instead of getting a ship shot at in the gulf of Tonkin, you could release rape videos once a day to verify marching in to a country of your choosing? I have a feeling that a US special forces time consisting entirely of women will be arrested in a foreign country next time the US needs a scrap.

Military medical training facilities should be renamed to guarded brothels.

Juan Cox
Juan Cox

the french fly whores out to their FOBs and so on, where they live in special pink containers?
That sounds absolutely retarded but I believe it

Elijah Jenkins
Elijah Jenkins

They did during the first vietnam war if I recall. Bunch of algerians and local viet whores got captured at Dien Bien Phu

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