The founding fathers didn't foresee assault muskets!

No idea, but I remember there being a longer version that featured scenes from the movie "Top Secret"

I like this guy's accent.

Doesn't that guy run a YouTube Union or something?

What was the point of the first video? Rhetorical, don't actually care.

PEASANT MERCHANTS HAD WARSHIPS

did not mean to sahgay but whatever

Parabolic arc firing with explosive tip arrows!

Ukrainian comedy show iirc (at least some of the parts are), can't remember the name of it.

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You'd still need a fairly large group of men dumping those bolts (and their tiny little payload) into the general area of the target to do much more than blow up a few bushes.

Maski show. Funny, but degenerate.
Alzo
Of course it was (((ukrainian))), anglobuddy.

Or an explosive charge….

So it's a better repeating crossbow?

The Militias of the US are the National Guard, which has tanks.

Something doesn't become a militia just because you call it one. A militia, by definition, is composed of civilians who have taken up arms. National Guards clearly aren't civilians. Furthermore, the second amendment clearly implies that a proper militia should also turn against the government when necessary, therefore isn't part of the government but is at least semi-independent from it. That also isn't true as the national guard is joined to the US government just as tightly as the US armed forces (one can make the argument that NG also deffers to the state government and not just the federal one, but state government is also part of the same structure, therefore the argument is moot).

I made that webm, are you by any chance ChadRight?

First "JewsRock!" one (Better version streamable.com/h4g40)
Also sauce on the 2nd webm's movie?

No.

see

No user, the militias of America are rooted in the early colonial militias, when we couldnt rely on a standing British army so we had malesdrafted into a colonial militias. This is why the National Guard traces its origin back to the 1600s. They were essentially the reservist army of the colonies, acted to protect them, and served in the British army if the need ever arose (a lot of early militia leaders during the American revolution were veterans of the French Indian War)

militia=/=group of civilians with guns who try to take down a government, the militia serves the local colonial and later state government and protects it FROM uprisings as well as foreign threats and a potentially tyrannical federal government. This is why the Virginia militia was called to put down the John Brown uprising just before the civil war and he was then tried and executed for treason.

There can be militias outside the actual militia (which is the US National Guard) but it still remains that the NG is the acting militia in the trust origin of the word. The second amendment applies to restrictions on the Federal government, which is a whole different argument, but its basically ensuring the rights of the individual states against the over acting federal government, something the British overlords did which triggered the revolutionary war. Like back in our civil war, it was the individual state militias which formed the Confederate army. When someone joined the milita as laid out by the founders, they were basically just joining the state army, rather than the national army, and they could be called out to fight for the country as a whole if the need required.

law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

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And the colonial militias were obviously independent on the British government, because the ranks of the militia were filled by the average citizen. In other words, they were fucking civilians with guns. That was the fucking point - they weren't professional soldiers, because if they were, they would be part of the British fucking Army and would be helping put down the revolt.

They were in the service of the colonies because there was no British army there, but they were still subservient to the British overlords. And not just them, French and Spanish colonialist did the same thing. In times of war, the militias would fight for their European overlords, the citizens of Boston for example were British subjects and were fighting for Britain.

The American Revolutionary war broke out because the British thought the colony of Massachusetts was getting way to rowdy, was placed under martial law under the direct control of the British military, and because they had planned to seize the armory of the local militias since they knew they were no longer loyal to Parliament or the king, but the underground government of Mass. run by John Adams. This is what the battle of Lexington and Concord was, the British army realizing that the colonial militia, which was to serve them, had gone rogue and potentially might fight against them.

They were quite literally civilians.
In other words, not professional soldiers. Civilians with guns, given some training, and unleashed on the enemy when there was a problem. They were formally subservient to the brits (every citizen is theoretically subservient to the government), but de facto independent, as can be clearly seen. The point of this is that a tyrannical government usually treats its troops well or at least carefully selects them so that only those loyal get to be armed, whereas when you just have a muster of civvies, you can't do that - they come from all walks of life and from all manner of backgrounds. That's why they were supposed to be the safeguard of the freedom of the country - because if the majority of the people decided the government was tyrannical, then it would also have the majority of the armed forces on its side.

I know they werent professional soldiers, I never said they were. They always were, and still are, reservist.

Back to this original statement, yes, the militia should turn against the government if its evil and be at least semi-independent. This means the individual states have a right to resist an over encroaching federal government. Iowa can tell the President of the US and Congress to fuck off and use the Iowa National Guard to defend themselves for example. Theres this idea among gun rights people that militia only ever means civilians banding together with their own guns to fight a corrupt government as they see it when this isnt at all true. Yes, there can be militias outside the NG, but the NG is the 'official' milita.

The whole point of the second amendment and the bill of rights in general was an after thought for the constitution. Before that, we were a confederacy, but it sucked shit so The Federalist party decided to create a stronger national government at the expense of state autonomy. The Anti-Federalist feared this, so they included the Bill of Rights to ensure the rights and protections they fought the British for in case this new national government violated them to, so the militia means the state has a right to defend itself from an evil US government if the need arises. They still act as reservist for the US though, which is why the National Guard fights in places like Afghanistan.

you fucked up the details of that. the articles of confederation basically had the federal government with limited power and no ability to enforce it. when reforming the government and building the framework of the constitution the bill of rights were in no way an after thought. once they agreed of the wording of the constitution to vote on it, they then immediately added the bill of rights. the express purpose of the bill of rights was to enshrine natural law into mans law for the nations protection against the state.

then again none of this matters too much since every single one of the bill of rights have been practically nullified by legislation and most people are so ignorant of the most basic understanding they they cant even list off the entire first amendment.

This is the actual thing founding fathers have never forseen

the issue is that modern "reservists" are nothing like militiamen at the time and are deprived of any independence. The command is part of the government, the arms are issued by the government, the paychecks come from the government. Reffering to state administration as not being part of the government does not apply ever since Confederacy lost, as the state governments themselves are not in any way independent. It would be like colonial militiamen waited for some british officer to tell them to assemble, gave them arms from a redcoat armoury (after getting the order from the king himself no less), paid them for their service from the british treasury, and only then would they be allowed to rebel. The amount of centralization renders such state-administered "militias" as nothing more than yet another branch of the US army.

The Jan Lukozki has a point. Already during WW2, the national guard was used a tool for suppressing internal dissent. The town of New Ulm Minnesota had the guard sent to them since everyone there was outraged that their cousins in Germany were going to get screwed over yet again. The national guard is not a militia.

Thats not a valid excuse for why they arent a militia since the militia has always served in putting down revolts. I think a lot of people have this idea that the militia is when random civilians band together with guns to overthrow a corrupt government and that is not at all the case. The militia serves the local government and their duty was to defend the states from outside attacks from Indians or the Spanish or the French AND put down any insurections from slaves or other mobs. And this isnt really a matter of opinon, the National Guard is literally the milita of the US.

law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

pic related. the Virginia militia putting down internal dissent.

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Out of the way, gaylords. There's kebab to be removed and only square bullets can do it right.

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Kek Right on user.

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