Should homosexuals, who have rejected the Gospel and are confirmed given over into reprobate mind, be put to death by the government? St. John Chrysostom does say that reprobate faggots ought to be stoned
So, should faggots be given the death penalty?
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also would like to add where celibate virgin gays fit in
Well, I'm all in for love thy neighbor and love thy enemy part, and 'hate the sin but not the sinner" and after all, they are also humans, made in image and likeness of God…
…but if government would impose death penalty on pederasts, to be honest, I wouldn't really object it. They have proven that they are like oil: as one drop of oil pollutes several liters of water, so does small group of pederasts corrupt entire society.
If a person with homosexual attraction who has committed themselves to Christ then there is absolutely no reason they should be put to death and ought to be thought of as any other brother or sister in Christ. I think that should be established and agreed upon by everyone only Andersonites might object but they're heretics anyway so their opinion does not matter.
But as for the main question of this thread I want to see some discussion on this too and see what consensus is reached.
If someone is reprobate their demise is inevitable, it's not just a matter of public safety with such individuals but one of justice
if they are open and unashamed about it yeah why not
if someone is struggling with it and knows it's bad and keeps it on the low i think it's alright. if someone is so blatant that there are multiple witnesses to their acts yeah, stoney stone time
Capital punishment should be reserved for extreme cases of abuse/violence/murder ala Gen 9:6.
For non-violent homosexuals our hope should be for their eventual transformation, not their death. That being said public displays of homosexuality should be criminalized as well as sodomy, flogging would be the better option than wasting money on imprisonment.
We can't objectively confirm someone's destiny and state of their soul; but we can confirm that with God all things are possible, and that faith hopes for all things, and Christ called for mercy, not sacrifice. And that even the worst of sinners and homosexuals were transformed by the Holy Spirit, pic related.
celibate gays need to battle their lustful thoughts and desires just like straight celibates do, that's about it.
mods plz delete the gay pic.
Burn them all
nice, why wont we post actual porn while we're at it?
this.
This is a christian board user, we should treat it like we're in Church. No degeneracy/lewds/gayshit
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If they are private about it, leaving it to the confines of their home? Let God judge them.
If they are public and vocal about it? Denounce them, but let God deliver the final judgment.
If they try to proselytize their sexuality to children, make a public display (ex. pride parades), or are public about their sex instead of their preferences? They should be put to labor for life, if not sentenced to death.
Some of them might be in to that…
It highly depends.
Young people who are quiet about it and keep to themselves are like regular sinners with still time to convert.
People who's whole life revolves around sucking dick and showing it to the whole world (even literally), attend pride parades and whatnot not only are proud of their sin, but scandalize others with it and try to persuade others to be like them.
The latter one should get a sentence.
Brilliantly put. Well said.
Well that escalated quickly.
Feel free to explain how.
Personally, I think we should do more than just be vocal on the second one. The fall of grace begins with blasphemous propaganda after all.
Ready for some horror?
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Keep one part of the law, have to keep the whole law.
We put them in the back of the oven :^)
But on a more serious note, if we as a society tolerated "celibate faggots" we are still tolerating wickness. Faggotry is not an identity. It would make us hypocrites to put the unrepentant ones to death. In my perfect world, said "celibate faggots" would be given a choice:
Either mandatory psychological reversion (via accredited professional) or to the ovens with the rest of 'em.
Lmao, I ment wickedness. I need to get more sleep. Self sage for spelling mistake
OKAY SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A FU¢KING JOKE!
As Christians, we should pray for the conversion of sinners, not their destruction. What saith the Scriptures on this matter?
Luke 9:54-56
t. Episcopalian
Put to death? No.
Forced to give up whatever demon (literal or metaphorical) that convinced them telling young boys and girls to join their lifestyle is ok? Yes. Fact of the matter is, homosexuality is a fetish, just like cuckolding and BDSM. All of it is a perversion of God’s norm, and even the most atheistic person can see how these fetishes can ruin the lives of the participants and those around them. Yeah, vanilla heterosexual sex might seem boring compared to anal fisting on a sex swing, but the point is to have kids, not to seek after the orgasm that makes them.
He's right, y'know
This needs to be posted in every "X should be killed" thread
Urge them to convert. Otherwise cast them out of our society and/or give them uncles Pence magical treatment.
This 9001%
You can't punish people for just having temptations that they don't even give in to. That's ludicrous, and alien to the Bible. Or, if you are going to execute gays for just the temptation to sin, you would logically have to execute every dude who ever got horny seeing a girl in a bikini since that's spiritual adultery according to Jesus, and adultery was a capital offence in the OT just like sodomy was.
Another quality thread
Learn what moral law is then try again.
Too bad you're just virtual signalling yourself, and passing off problems to someone else. And that's assuming you're not just another progressive. In any case, shirking your duty is wrong, even worse making others shirk theirs and even lying by pretending there isn't a massive problem here and twisting scripture to argue people should shirk. I guess there is no depth you progressives won't sink to.
According to your logic you just judged someone else. You should first follow your own advice then and just not post here, then maybe you won't look like a massive hypocrite.
So if we're going to start executing sodomites, are we going to execute people for adultery, incest, bestiality, blasphemy, idolatry, and such?
Also, will we begin following kosher?
If they suffer from SSA and admit they have a problem, we can help them. If they start rationalizing their wickedness and adopt it as their "identity" (or worse "God made me this way heresy ) than we will have to allow the reprobate sodomites have their identity. Which is UNACCEPTABLE! Tolerating wickedness is still wickedness!
If the "celibate faggots" which to keep their sinful identity, than they will have to be willing to die for it. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
Wow. Talk about missing the fu¢king point. The point I was making is that if we have to kill homosexuals, then we all deserve the death penalty because no one is sinlessly perfect. It is YOU who is the massive hypocrite, because you want to kill a certain type of sinner, bur you’re excusing your own sins. Fu¢k off, you sanctimonious piece of $hit.
“X should be killed” threads should warrant a permanent ban. These types of threads DO NOT illustrate the love of God in the slightest. It breeds nothing but self-righteousness and pride.
but how do i get rid of that demon
This may not be the thread for it but I must ask, since the purpose of sex is reproductive and pleasure is to encourage the notion of reproduction, what exactly is wrong with BDSM so long as the sex involved is being used for its intended purpose?
The death penalty is perfectly legitimate, hippie
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Catechism of the Council of Trent
The power of life and death is permitted to certain civil magistrates because theirs is the responsibility under law to punish the guilty and protect the innocent. Far from being guilty of breaking this commandment [Thy shall not kill], such an execution of justice is precisely an act of obedience to it. For the purpose of the law is to protect and foster human life. This purpose is fulfilled when the legitimate authority of the State is exercised by taking the guilty lives of those who have taken innocent lives.
In the Psalms we find a vindication of this right: “Morning by morning I will destroy all the wicked in the land, cutting off all evildoers from the city of the Lord” (Ps. 101:8).
Your heart, filled with malice, wants people to reject just punishments.
So do you not believe any crimes ought to be punished by the state? If it's okay for the state to punish murder, why do you draw the line at the state punishing prohibited sex acts? Just secular libertarian reasoning about it being victimless? Was Moses wrong to punish these acts, as God told him to? And if not when did punishing these acts become wrong?
I’m against the death penalty, actually. If you guys would drop your medieval larping crusade fantasies for just a minute, you will notice that capital punishment does not deter criminal activity and potentially results in the execution of innocent people. Who cares about what ancient Israel and Moses did; they acted under the direct authority of God. You are placing a secular government in the position of God by saying that they have the power to execute criminals. Again, we should punish people, but killing them in this day and age is just not expedient.
Not what I asked, but okay. What other laws would you support to restrict homosexual acts, then? Assuming a Christian government and majority Christian population.
yes
Read Romans 13.
If you had a gun and I was tied against the wall, would you shoot me? I haven't had so much as a kiss in terms of sexual, just the thoughts.
Would you shoot me? Would you get someone else to shoot me?
For some reason Christians are for corporal punishment, but i don't think homosexuals should be put to death, part of the difference between God and Satan is that God gives you a choice.
The state has responsibilities that clearly fall under the "give to Caesar" clause. Fags are poison to society and should not be tolerated in any healthy society. Christians should help conflicted gays, but the ones that are open about it should be subject to whatever the state determines needs to be done about them.
The current pedo situation could have been prevented if people would socially quarantine fags.
This 400%
That's a good quote user.
I think the death penalty for homosexuality and such was a form of human envy towards the first people to discover a new sexual technology which God himself obviously created for us to find. The same thing happens within the scientific community, where new discoveries are sabotaged by envious peer scientists only for them to claim rights to discover it themselves at a later date in time.
I just had a thought: do you think porn producers should get priority over fags? What do you think?
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The fact that we have this thread every so often should tell you something's wrong with how people are being taught about scripture.
It's better for them to be saved. Pic is a joke.
If it's curable it should be cured, otherwise it needs to be quarantined.
I believe most modern homosexuals are created by a traumatic event, such as a trusted person sexually voilating them.
They then justify this event by choosing to be gay.
By death I think he means hell, faggots have fun in this life but they're put to death when they have to face judgement.