I just found out I have scrupulosity (essentially, a religious form of OCD)

I just found out I have scrupulosity (essentially, a religious form of OCD).

What do I do? How do I cure it? Does anyone have some experience with this?

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You know where you are, right? Nearly every (only nearly?) poster on this board is guilty of this. My advice would be to quit the internet altogether and devote yourself ever more to Christ. Advice which I will hopefully soon take myself when I find the strength, which is only in Christ.

I don't usually spend much time on this board. I came here to ask this because im desperate… But, oh well, I guess I'll find some solution. The problem is that praying to God for help just kind of adds to the problem, because the problem has caused me to pray excessively (if i dare say that…)

I'd rather have that than my OCD with washing my hands.

So did this guy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonsus_Liguori

How does one "pray excessively"?
see I'm already at it, flee this place

For example, my prayer rule consists of a set of prayers. I would repeat them and increase the rule until i feel the rule is "done". It would continue to a point where I just felt unsatisfied no matter how much I prayed, I started being angry with God because I believed it was Him that was torturing me, I said to my self: "Just leave me alone, what do you want from me?"

Have you considered with your doctors about going on a pilgrimage?

I haven't been really diagnosed, but almost all of the symptoms are there. I haven't really thought about going on a pilgrimage..

Isn't this a good thing? You're serious about avoiding sin and following your rule of prayer and fasting that way.

Live a life of repentance, confess yours sins, and know that you are forgiven.

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There's nothing wrong with that if you havebthe strength to do it.

Yeah, pretty sure that's you, bubba. I know little, but I'm pretty sure God has more reasonable ways of torturing people.

You don't have to goto one extreme to another.

You've come to the wrong place

I struggled with that at college pretty bad on and off for a couple years at my Catholic college. Man, it's tough. I know you have to do it until it feels "done" but just ignore it when you say it once. Let your word speak for itself. Pray to commune with God mysteriously, never to satisfy a compulsion. It's sort of something you learn, so don't be too hard on yourself. It'll come with practice, just remember to stop. You're not praying for a feeling, you're praying to commune with God. If a feeling comes, let it.

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF MODERN MEDICINE

This.
If you are doing it out of obligation rather than sincerely, stop. It is hard, and feels very wrong, but doing compulsions doesn't please God, and if anything it will hurt your faith since you will start to associate your faith with unpleasant rituals in your mind.
I've been dealing with this for about 8 years. It got much easier when I started talking to a psychologist and got OCD meds. I would recommend that if it won't let up.

By knowing you can't. God can. All the praying, fastening and other ascetic feats are nothing and useless by themselves. We use them as an expression of our love for God and they help us to recognise by experience our own weakness. If one thinks that the feats he does are something, then what he actually does is nothing, a bad thing.

The scrupulosity as a religious form of OCD is always about small sins. Your spiritual eyes are still closed and you don't even realise the extend and the magnitude of your sinfulness. But does God want you to die for your sins? No, He sent His only Son to be slapped in the face for you, to be mocked, to suffer and die on the cross for you. So no, regardless of your sins, you have no right to either 1. fall in despear or 2. to neglect your sins.

Leave yourself God's hands, have trust in Him. Try to acquire tears of repentance instead of long rule of prayers. Say in yourself the prayer: "Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me" and know that your prayers is to One, Who loves you more than you love Him.

I understand, I know that God loves me and he is all-forgiving, but I can't get past the fact that I have to confess in order for God to forgive me. I can't believe I'm writing this but I hate that fact, it's the truth, perhaps i'm sinning writing this but the truth is, that's how I feel. I want God to forgive me, but the feeling of going to Confession is… I don't know…

Speak out what ails you user. We are all brothers in Christ. How can a doctor prescribe medicine if you do not tell him your sickness. What is it about Confession that troubles you?

Not the confession, but as of these days, somehow religion all together. I don't have the motivation or drive to go to Confession, I have done so in the past. I know that I have sinned a lot, and I know what I would confess, but, I somehow believe that it would not help me. After I learned I do many of the things people with scrupulosity do, I became scared that what I'm doing is just out of compulsion. And sometimes it is true, I'd schedule my confession in, for example two weeks, but in reality i'd like it if the priest said "Well, I'm not available then, let's reschedule it for some time later." That way, I'd be pardoned in God's eyes, and mine. Whenever I would decide to try harder and just yeah, go to confession, why not, the temptations/passions increased. Smoking and pornography mostly. Video game addiction, and so on. I thought that it's just a signal coming from somewhere, that what I'm doing is wrong, that what I'm doing is just further developing my illness. But then again, I thought, without temptation no one would be saved.

What everyone is telling me, and on another forum as well, is that the key is maintaining a balance: not too much discipline, but not too much laxity either. But I feel like I'm incapable of applying the advice. I'm afraid of lowering my efforts. But then again, in this state, where I'm unsure of what to do, I'm doing the exact opposite of what Christ commands.

Silence user. Silence is the best medicine for what ails you. If you are Catholic go sit before our Lord in Adoration if not read some scripture and then sit in silence for an hour and pray. But sit there in Silence and converse with the Lord. If you believe the Blessed Sacrament can not absolve you of your sin then take it up with the Lord himself he will gladly listen to what ails you.

Do not take our Lord so lightly when he weeped and bled in the Garden before he was betrayed he witnessed all the evils in the world and your sins were counted in that which no man should have to witness. But our Lord resigned himself to bear those sins up to Calvary and let himself be a sacrifice so that we may conquer death.

So I tell you user sit in silence for an hour and ask the Lord what he wants. Not what you think he wants but what HE truly wants for you.

THE FOLLOWING NOTES HELP TO PERCEIVE
AND UNDERSTAND
SCRUPLES
AND PERSUASIONS OF OUR ENEMY
First Note. The first: They commonly call a scruple what proceeds from our
own judgment and freedom: that is to say, when I freely decide that that is sin
which is not sin, as when it happens that after some one has accidentally stepped on
a cross of straw, he decides with his own judgment that he has sinned.
This is properly an erroneous judgment and not a real scruple.
Second Note. The second: After I have stepped on that cross, or after I have
thought or said or done some other thing, there comes to me a thought from without
that I have sinned, and on the other hand it appears to me that I have not sinned;
still I feel disturbance in this; that is to say, in as much as I doubt and in as much
as I do not doubt.
That is a real scruple and temptation which the enemy sets.
Third Note. Third: The first scruple – of the first note – is much to be
abhorred, because it is all error; but the second – of the second note – for some
space of time is of no little profit to the soul which is giving itself to spiritual
exercises;39 rather in great manner it purifies and cleanses such a soul, separating
it much from all appearance of sin: according to that saying of Gregory: «It belongs
to good minds to see a fault where there is no fault.»
Fourth Note. The fourth: The enemy looks much if a soul is gross or
delicate, and if it is delicate, he tries to make it more delicate in the extreme, to
disturb and embarrass it more. For instance, if he sees that a soul does not consent
to either mortal sin or venial or any appearance of deliberate sin, then the enemy,
when he cannot make it fall into a thing that appears sin, aims at making it make
out sin where there is not sin, as in a word or very small thought.
If the soul is gross, the enemy tries to make it more gross; for instance, if
before it made no account of venial sins, he will try to have it make little account of
mortal sins, and if before it made some account, he will try to have it now make
much less or none.
Fifth Note. The fifth: The soul which desires to benefit itself in the spiritual
life, ought always to proceed the contrary way to what the enemy proceeds; that is
to say, if the enemy wants to make the soul gross, let it aim at making itself
delicate. Likewise, if the enemy tries to draw it out to extreme fineness, let the soul
try to establish itself in the mean, in order to quiet itself in everything.
Sixth Note. The sixth: When such good soul wants to speak or do something
within the Church, within the understanding of our Superiors, and which should be
for the glory of God our Lord, and there comes to him a thought or temptation from
without that he should neither say nor do that thing – bringing to him apparent
reasons of vainglory or of another thing, etc., – then he ought to raise his
understanding to his Creator and Lord, and if he sees that it is His due service, or
at the least not contrary to it, he ought to act diametrically against such temptation,
according to St. Bernard, answering the same: «Neither for thee did I begin, nor for
thee will I stop.»

From Spiritual Exercises of Ignatius of Loyola

Thanks for the advice. I hope I will figure this out.

Thanks. Although, I don't see why Catholics talk about scruples more than the Orthodox. I've read that somewhere. Someone said it was because Catholics differ between deadly/venial sin.