I'm on the fence on this issue. Do you think parents should have the right to not enroll their kids in schools and instill their own values and school curriculum instead? Is it a good way to raise Christian, non degenerate, children or will it just lead to more weirdos and autists?
Would you homeschool your child?
I think there needs to be some qualification involved. Uneducated parents shouldn't try to educate children. Further, there is the importance of socialization. Obviously church will provide some of that, but the child needs to learn how to deal with people who aren't members of their own church.
Further, there's a reason why schools don't have the same teacher teaching everything. The other important aspect of socialization is learning how to listen to a variety of people, a variety of ideas, and make informed decisions. The parents are the key to the whole thing because they should be listening to what the child is learning and discuss it with them. Parents should not use school as a babysitting service.
No. I'm decidedly unqualified in too many areas.
Home school elementary because even puppies need to be socialized young. Take ‘em out at 10 and home school them if capable to meet university entrance exam requirements and give them proper certification or allow them to take a GED.
Return them to high school at ~14 and allow them to use it more as a means of socialization. Have them co-enrolled with a college placement program so that hey have their associate degree courses completed within the first two years. Join a sport or club of personal interest. At 16 allow them to either take up an apprenticeship or take the university path.
The problem with homeschooling is that what usually happens is children stay at home all day completely socially isolated and grow up mentally ill. I believe that homeschooling should only be done when there are no better options, it's obviously not ideal, but neither are public schools. Children need to grow up in a larger community and socialize with people who aren't their family, and like the other user said, parent's are usually not educated enough to give their children a well rounded education
The people in this thread are so woefully ignorant it's actually shameful. YES I would homseschool, and I have been homeschooled. All social problems with homeschooling are solved by homeschooler co-ops and meet-ups, where kids study together, often under the guidance of extremely intellegent high-schools, in awesome and obscure subjects, or things that will help them in careers. Lesson programs from books and online programs cover ALL areas the parent doesn't know how to teach in, and those co-ops I mentioned often have such a thing. In addition to that, when you homeschool, your child can more easily advance as you typically don't have summer breaks and stuff like that, so you can get way ahead. The groups of homeschoolers also serve as a community. It's a wonderful system and should be considered first above others, especially if your child is more intelligent than most children, so they won't be held back. Not to mention, if your child truly is intelligent, then you have TONS of gifted children homeschool programs, where they can be around people of their own intelligence and above, learning from each other. It's a bliss.
Homeschooling does not lead to poor socialization, sending your kinds to an instituion modeled after prisons to be thaught by authoritarian government employed bureaucrats is what leads to poor socialization.
If any other institution had the rates of murder, assault, teen pregnancy, sexting and drug use of public schools it would have been closed down ages ago.
God bless.
I was home schooled, got through college without much trouble, outside of finances. I'm not in a terrible position, by any means.
Rubbish, it's not like I was locked in a basement with my parents throwing me a chunk of raw steak occasionally, I got plenty of play outside and associated with adults and other kids frequently. Went out and dealt with people often, helped around the community, and so on.
As far as socializing with…peers…considering the rather low quality of young men and women in college that I met (at the time), can't really say I missed out on the school scene. I hear it's gotten worse since then, and that wasn't even all that long ago.
In any event, any proper parent will create socialization opportunities for their children anyway outside of whatever other obligations the children have, in addition to allowing their kids a certain degree of freedom to move around on their own (how much, depends on their age). That sort of precludes any significant chance of decent parenting if you don't actually go out and do anything yourself.
Public school in the US is functionally segregated by income so that should be something to think about.
With the growth of internet renders traditional institutions obsolete in some ways.
Given the growth of individualist attitudes the world appears to be going through and the increased apathy towards government, educational institutions may come to be further used as an instrument for the extraction of tax revenue.
Bumping for interest
I toyed with the idea of homeschooling, but I think that despite all of the horrible experiences I had in public school, it was invaluable experience. There is a certain attitude and perspective I had gained in public schools. It taught me how to overcome tough situations, deal with the lowest of the low, and to make the best of a bad situation. Maybe it was just my temperment, but if I had to send my kids to public school, they would do fine. Same with private education or homeschooling. Ultimately, it matters more in teaching them out of school, having a connection, supporting them, and giving them practical experience.
I agree with this, largely. Technology is making the way education was done in the 20th Century obsolete (thank God). I wonder if we'll have brick and mortar schools in 100-200 years, outside of universities of course which will try and protect their prestige.
I was homeschooled up until 8th grade and something about the vast majority of people who were public schooled through those grades just seems "off" to me. They are sexually crazed and all conform to a certain set of strict beliefs and get super jittery and nervous when different views are brought up as if big brother would kill them just for hearing something seems fishy about the holocaust. Whereas homeschooled just said "Wow, that's not very nice." The sex obsession and nervous conformity to authority as if communist officer Ivan were standing behind you with a club just seems so weird to me. It's like they aren't human and have cattle souls. And they continue to behave like horny cattle well into adulthood. I wonder if the education system damages a human soul and permanently stunts its growth. It would explain why most college students are so infantile.
The fact that you can't talk about your peers without such vitriol and anger proves to me that you were not properly socialized.
I went to public school and my kids have gone to public school and none of us are "sexually crazed". If your homeschooling failed you, don't blame us.
I couldn't go 24 hours in highschool without hearing the word penis.
Ok … um … what? Were you hearing "penis" in your algebra classes? Was it the teacher or the students?
I mean … a ² + b ² = penis?
Vitriol and anger? How so?
Pleasant words are a honeycomb, Sweet to the soul and healing to the bones. Proverbs 16:24
A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger. Proverbs 15:1
I'm just sayin' …
Personally opinions aside, parents absolutely should have that right. It's their kid, not the state's. Personally, the way the schools are going these days it is something I do consider. It's also good for the kid to have lots of contact with a parent like that.
Hardly anger, I'm being rather matter of fact. Rampant sexual adventurism (leading to pregnancy, sometimes disease or abortion), outright dangerous behavior in other cases that sometimes resulted in destruction of property/vandalism, and other issues of note…it would be a little strange to at least express some disapproval over such actions, some of which actually harmed people.
There's other things I could dwell on but it's not worth it over the span of time since then. Overall it was a questionable experience, but I've since moved on to more productive situations.
Absolutely, public schooling and even private schools are terrible places for children. Public schooling is the worst, everyone is super edgy and subversive culture spread like wild fire among teens.
I definitely think homeschooling is a good idea, but kids absolutely need plenty of socialization with kids their age. I dated a girl who was homeschooled and she had some very wierd ideas and habits that came from it. My friend at church was also homeschooled and he's a tad bit strange too, although he can actually function somewhat in new social settings unlike my ex-girlfriend.
Thus I think that private schools are probably the best route. Plenty of socialization and opportunities for activities, none of the sodomite teachings (at a proper private school that is).
That's why you get them involved in groups like Sunday School and things like Scouts :)
Absolutely! Now I also recall a guy I played soccer with about 15 years ago, he was perfectly well-adjusted. So I guess the trick is to not keep your kids actually in the home the whole time you homeschool them?
I think so, don't even have kids, not even married. But think of even non-homeschooled kids who had little social contact growing up, they sometimes turn out a little… odd. Some places even have homeschooling groups where homeschooled kids can socialise, and the parent (usually the mother) can spend time with other parents too
^ Government Schools = Government Brainwashing centers. Why do you think liberal snowflakes are so rampant? Why do you think public education is so bad? If you want strong independent kids, not putting them in that environment is the first step.
Public schools are deliberately made bad to keep the sheep dumb enough to control.
Sometimes a little odd is good. We are called to be a peculiar people, not look like Johnny B Worldly next door. The older you get, the more you realize the quirks are what make people interesting to know.
How do home schooled kids make friends?
Homeschool co-op, meet-up groups, taking classes, and so on. Meeting other homeschooled kids, there are so many ways.
What is church?
How do public schooled kids make friends? I never made any there.
Why not?
There should be no compulsory schooling whatsoever. Whether to educate, and the manner thereof, should be entirely the choice of the parents. The state should provide some form of free education for those who would like to choose it for their children, but enrollment should not be forced.
Do you have neighbors kids? Do you meet people around town that you talk to? Do you have places you go to do stuff? You sort of have to be active in the world to meet people in the world. Otherwise I suppose there are websites out there where you could organize meetups with people near you.
Your arrogance and disdain for your fellow man is a clear sign of you being home schooled.
Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
You've responded to me already in that post? I am a little confused with this one, especially since you did not use this stronger admonishment as your original reply. As it stands, I've already expanded on your original concerns. Has rage has welled up in you since then?
Well, regardless, I am disappointed that you seem to have some hatred for those who do not go through state or corporate education. I can only hope you can reflect on the situation going forward and come to an improved conclusion.