Bad! Backstabbing RINO Cuckservatives Propose Gun Ban Bill

H.R.6747 is a Republican-backed anti-gun bill that would put a so-called "safety grant" program in place, effectively providing funding to states for the implementation of GVRO/ERPO programs.

GVROs/ERPOs result in confiscation of firearms without due process, and this bill would encourage ALL states to adopt such programs at the expense of taxpayers like yourself.

This dangerous, anti-gun bill MUST be stopped, so we need your help.

Using FPC's Grassroots Action form below, send a message to Congress and tell them to OPPOSE H.R.6747

Sponsor: Rep. Katko, John [R-NY-24] | Cosponsor statistics: 11 current - includes 6 original

Cosponsor, Date Cosponsored

Rep. Peterson, Collin C. [D-MN-7]*09/07/2018
Rep. Curtis, John R. [R-UT-3]*09/07/2018
Rep. Cuellar, Henry [D-TX-28]*09/07/2018
Rep. Diaz-Balart, Mario [R-FL-25]*09/07/2018
Rep. Comstock, Barbara [R-VA-10]*09/07/2018
Rep. Young, David [R-IA-3]*09/07/2018
Rep. Davis, Rodney [R-IL-13]09/20/2018
Rep. Upton, Fred [R-MI-6]09/20/2018
Rep. Renacci, James B. [R-OH-16]09/27/2018
Rep. MacArthur, Thomas [R-NJ-3]09/27/2018
Rep. Bishop, Mike [R-MI-8]10/16/2018

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I'm sure many conservatives will not support this, but it does reveal that (((they))) are getting increasingly desperate to disarm us……. as if they are planning something big to go down soon.

First the threat of nuking those who resist gun grabs, and now this. They are getting scared and desperate.

If they do pass it, don't obey! They can't disarm 100 million citizens nation wide without massive blowback and decades of civil war. And many in the armed forces and police forces would defect (either due to political ideology or life-threatening risks).

RE: BAD

you accidentally misspelled GOOD

FUCK GUNS

AND FUCK YOU………..

they are DEFINITELY going to do something about guns here in America, the same way they did in Australia….

AND THERE'S NOT A GOD DAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT

Oh yes they CAN, and they will

If you think you're any match for the giant EMF transmitters, Drone Stikes, or any other number of secret technologies they have in store for you, then you're delusional…

It will be 6 months of bumpy road at most, with 97% of gun owners complying.

The final 3% can be dealt with EASILY

You watch too many far fetched action movies, and play too many video games.

They'll have a strategy that requires minimal human (soldier) interaction.

1: compliance, within a set amount of time

2: give you an opportunity to comply, before bombarding you and your family with non lethal weapon, like something that would make you witness your children or wife suffer central nervous system override and seizures, or worse

3: gas you or drone strike you with other non lethal compliance enforcement

4: imprisonment, charged as a domestic terrorist

5: simply kill you

Nice leddit spacing.

Good luck waking everyone up to your blatant TREASON. Regime change would surely fucking happen the minute innocent Americans start getting killed off!

If you want a war against America, you'll get it, and that collateral damage will likely kill YOU in the process.

WE WILL NOT OBEY, SO TRY IT!!

The Patriot Act gave them the authority to imprisonment you without a warant, no right to an attorney, no charges needing to be filed, just blind imprisonment, with no time limits.

In your case, you would be labeled a domestic terrorist, and they throw away the key

They'll have to kill me first, I'm not laying down, I'd shoot right at them!

IDIOT, THEY'RE COUNTING ON YOU 'NOT OBEYING'…. THEY HAVE PLANNED OUT DOZENS AND DOZENS OF CONTINGENCIES FOR NON COMPLIANT FAGGOTS LIKE YOU

are you SO stupid, that you think the Dept of Defense is going to initiate their strategy haphazardly ?

not a problem…………..

They'd be honored to execute a 'pink mist' head shot on a domestic terrorist

Plus, you'd never even see them.

I'm so scared. Again, if they want to destroy the country, fine by me. Maybe Russia and China will pick up the pieces left over, faggots!!!!!

THEYRE GOING TO DO IT….

ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED…..

not this week, but trust me……

They're going to do it
It's coming
And it's a good thing

You are a traitor. Admit it.

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AGAIN: TOO MANY ACTION MOVIES

Russia and China aren't worried about 'civilians with guns'

That's NOT how war would happen….

The only thing I'll admit is my penis is bigger than yours, gets used more often, and I was more intelligent than you are by the time I was 15…..

NEWS FLASH !!!

RUSSIA AND CHINA ARE INVADING AUSTRALIA BECAUSE THEY HAVE GUN LAWS !!!!

If the government turns on its own civilians, you are going to get a wake up call the likes you never fucking heard, and the political blowback would make history.

Not to mention: if the government wants to destroy the nation within with mass civil war… China and Russia will be clapping with applause because NO ONE would bother trading with the THIRD WORLD we'd develop into.

You are a moron. You have no clue you are calling for the destruction of your own nation. We have the numbers against you faggots, and the guns too. If you want to ruin your own country, you are a fucking traitor.

FEMA has no plans or documentation for WWIII

none

They have plans and documentation for NW1

NUCLEAR WAR ONE
inherently meaning they are planning a limited nuclear theater, with NW2 & NW3 planned by think tanks

Anons paying attention to this? See their mentality. They REALLY DO want to kill us all!!

So much false bravado from the FIRST GUY WHO'LL COMPLY

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Not on your life. No way. Live free or DIE. Either one, fine by me! But not without a fight.

It's fine by them as well, and I guarantee they will arrange the latter before they'll allow you to proceed with the former

Okee dokee, traitor.

And what happens when the conservative Supreme Court slaps it down as unconstitutional? They just gonna start nuking America with tantrums of Anti-American hate?

They're going to do something about the gun problem in America because it's gotten out of hand, and all of you redneck white trash WWE watching hillbillies who always talk about 'your right to bear arms' and how if they 'criminalize guns only criminals will have guns' are a telic of an archaic past…

the majority of America doesn't give a flying fuck about you and your beliefs about the Constitution… Ever since the Patriot act, there has been no God damn Constitution.
..

You consider yourself to be patriotic historians who know so much about America's history and your constitutional rights, however I'm willing to bet that none of you realizes Thomas Jefferson said the United States Constitution needed to be rewritten every 19 years

The Constitution was never intended to be permanent, because they realized things were going to change, and it was a temporary measure at best….

However it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree or if your ambivalent, because the Patriot act completely rewrote history, and you no longer have any constitutional rights whatsoever…

Your John Wayne Clint Eastwood cowboy movie bulshit cliche about having to pry your guns from your cold dead hands is boring, and I promise that's exactly what they'll do if you don't comply within the allotted amount of time they're going to give you for compliance…..

Either that or someone's going to be prying their penis out of your cold dead rectum in prison after they incarcerate you… It's really simple to incapacitate a 'jJohn Wayne faggot' by pointing giant parabolic dishes at your house, and you'll have one hell of a time aiming a weapon when you're vomiting, spraying diarrhea, temporarily gone blind, head filled with a deafening high frequency ring, and so disoriented you'll think the ceiling is the floor.

Lol the supreme Court has NO AUTHORITY over the Patriot act, Homeland security, or the Dept of Defense

None of those things have anything to do with gun confiscation. What you are calling for is the death of millions of Americans and begging the military and government to aid in that mass murder.

You are, like many leftists today…. INSANE.

You have no idea how many people would see this as outrageous, because you are an extremist yourself.

ACTUALLY, SIR….

ITS YOU WHO KEEPS TALKING ABOUT DEATH….

I'm the one who's talking about the RAND Corporation's THINK TANKED contingencies to accomplish the upcoming disarming of Americans

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In a nutshell, we hate 50% of Americans, and we are going to force you to comply, or we'll kill you all, causing an economic collapse, civil war, mass murder, pain and suffering the likes the world hasn't seen in decades…. for your own good!

DESPOTISM

The Dept. Of Defense does NOT 'beg' it's soldiers to do jack shit

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You just listed a litany of hyperbole, exaggerations, and BULLSHIT

Nope. You start killing off non-compliant gun owners en mass thats what would inevitably happen. And you kill too many of those taxpayers, the govt wouldn't be able to fund itself anymore and resources would strain fast. Not to mention other economic impacts.

Then would come a massive wakeup call to the public too, and people would 'jump fence' quick and decide which side they are on. Next thing you know, people are fighting back and not laying down. Civil war.

Some thoughts from Zig Forums:

First by buyback, buybacks are moderately successful amongst the boomer and memelenial cucks. After that, they might try to confiscate the rest but I just don't see how that's viable. There's hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, of Americans who are preparing for that exact situation where the feds try to take their shit. That's a lot of bloodshed and death for really nothing gained. There's somewhere around 300 million registered firearms, who knows how much unregistered firearms there are both legal and illegal.

I highly doubt there will be many cops/nasty girls willing to get shot and killed over taking a private citizen's AR baby killer, maybe if it was one or two confiscations and they were very well convinced because of "mental illness" or whatever the case might be, but a widespread confiscation there's no way.

I guess the most sensible confiscation is first by buyback, then by slowly increasing restrictions and what the fed can legally confiscate your firearms for. So it'd look like this. First they can take away your shit for domestic abuse or mental illness or flight watch risk, people will not object to that. Then it will be for "hate speech" or other thought crime, people will likely not object to that either. Then they will change the definitions of what hate speech and mental illness, sticking people they find to be "extremist" by using data from social media on the government no fly list, thus expanding gun restriction to a higher percentage of people and getting LEO support behind it.

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My old prediction remains the exact same, nothing is going to happen. There would be buy backs and amnesties that some would take, but the majority of the 400 million guns in the US would not be turned in and their lessons from the 1990's is they can't go door to door to take them because they don't have enough men and morale. It'll be a law on the books that nobody will really enforce and many will simply not obey, they will sit and go "In like 70 years all the guns will be gone" and 70 years into it most of the guns will still be out there and the gun banners will go "Well, we'll just wait another 70 years, then we'll get it" and it'll probably be more like Finland where all those illegal unregistered war booty guns will just sit in the same closets and hiding places forever and never get turned in forever.

You've probably even heard some anti gun people lament that its too late for gun control in the US for civilian disarmament, there's simply far too many guns in the hands of far too many people who will never turn them in, with families that will continue to hold onto their guns for generations. They might pass a law just to sit on their hands. Its more likely there will be an upheavel, revolution, world war before civilian disarmament in the US would ever occur from age and attrition.

Hint: It never will be. They'll continue the slow boil. Pass a law, have a turn-in period. Maybe a registry if they're feeling frisky. Arrest a few people who weren't compliant. Have an amnesty period. Rinse and repeat. Continue to make arrests of those found to be in violation of the law. Pass another law. Rinse and repeat. First it'll be a mag ban, then deeper "assault weapon" restrictions, mandatory background checks, then semi-auto bans, caliber bans (goodbye .50 BMG), storage requirements, licensing requirements for certain types of guns, licensing requirements for all guns, gun purchase limits, ammo purchase limits, then tighten the screws on all of the above.

Pretty much exactly what they did with the 1934 NFA. Are there illegal machineguns? Yes. Do the powers that be sweat over them at all? No.

No way that any true, red-blooded American would let the 2nd amendment be infringed upon. All the based right wing militias and constitution loving patriots would rise up in a rebellion that the government could never win, just like what happened when California banned guns, or when New York banned guns, or when those lovely folks at in the NRA agreed with all of those common sense gun regulations.


You people are delusional if you think the 2nd amendment will ever be repealed outright, and even more delusional if you think the people will rise up in rebellion as guns and accessories continue to be regulated on a federal level, or outright banned on a state level as steady over the next 50 years as they have been over the last 50. Even as hispanic immigration turns Texas and Florida to blue states like California and effectively turns America into a Leninist one-party state, offering welfare gibs to hispanics and blacks in exchange for votes and fueled by the GDP of a browbeaten white (and asian) minority, I don't think the democrats will ever be ballsy enough to outright appeal the 2nd. Especially as the consequences diversification lead to increasingly pro-gun attitudes among the white-minority.

Tada, you have a disarmed country. Obviously there will still be guns, since gun control doesn't actually work, but that's perfect for the government. A disarmed country isn't one where no people are armed. It's one where the people aren't armed. If gun owners other than criminals are a fringe group, then they go from a threat against the government to a benefit. Once the propaganda turns enough of the population against guns, any failures of gun control can be redirected anywhere the government likes, since nobody will admit gun control doesn't work. Violence against women? Hate speech? Mental illness? You name it, they can use guns for it. Hell, a shooting that left only two dead over the weekend made international news because the shooter posted misogynist videos four years ago.

The only confiscations would be a few token enforcements of the slow-boiling regulations. And with those, even the cases of cops getting shot would only further the gun control. There wouldn't be enough for it to crush manpower or morale, and it would just give fodder to the propaganda, especially with each individual law being only a small tightening from the previous ones. A ban on semi-autos? You'd get some public support. Shooting grabbers over a reduction from a 10 round mag limit to 5? You'd go down as an overreacting psychopath who shouldn't have even had the five, because that particular restriction isn't a big deal and almost nobody sees the big picture.

They would never confiscate all at once. Slowly over a long period they would change the laws and minds of the people in order to take away what little is left peacefully without a fight.

Basically this. They are counting on millenials to be just as cucked as their boomer parents and they will be zyklon b is wishful thinking. If all goes according to plan, complete gun confiscation won't happen in our lifetimes. It will happen 200 years from now after the population looks like the soypod humans in WALL-E except with more melanin

Frankly, if you know what the 2A says and means and you still remain in compliance with any law on the books whatsoever, you are a cuck. People in Wyoming don't get to look down on commiefornians when they still pay a $200 tax per silencer, worry about whether their riflespacepistol is in compliance with whatever ATF pulls out of its ass, and don't have the balls to geocache a drum full of unregistered ARs with giggle switches for shtf.

Despite all the edgy marketing and arfcom boomer tirades, firearm ownership is essentially just an expensive hobby in the US that you can show off on instagram. There is no group or politician that is going to change that. The only thing that changes is it is every firearm owner in the country deciding to tell ZOG to fuck off, but right now people are too fat and content and have far too much to lose.

A gradual erosion of the classes of firearm you can have e.g. no guns without a bullet button because nobody will resist a minor tweak around the edges with older guns generally grandfathered in as machineguns were require registering etc but with Canada-style rules about grandfathering that make it really easy to seize and destroy them if the person is convicted of a crime or dies without specific instructions on what to do. Bonus points if you also come up with more weird laws about length and conversions to make it easier to convict people. This way you can slowly confiscate them as people who already hold them fuck up without causing an instant flashpoint. Anyone who doesn't want to hassle of registering them can have them purchased at full market price. Rinse and repeat every few generations and make sure any new advances in firearms are automatically prohibited so people are left with more and more outdated firearms. If there's a huge shift in technology as happens ever few centuries then civilians are at a large disadvantage.

Slowly limit who can actually sell firearms with tightening regulation. Do the same with ranges and pass laws preventing shooting on even private ground if it's within x miles of a city or town or even ban use outside of registered ranges and hunting entirely. This will lead to some areas being de facto gun free for anyone who doesn't make a huge effort to travel places to purchase and practice: if you don't have the disposable income to spend on both then you're essentially locked out of firearms 'culturally'. This is how it worked in Bongland.

Do something with ammo. Ban any new sort of ammo that comes in from civilian sales there's precedent here with 'armour piercing' ammo but think of the next step up from smokeless powder as a hypothetical example to feed into your goal of freezing civilian firearms at their current technology level or worse. If you can then eventually crack down on the actual production, purchasing and stockpiling of ammo be that through laws (need a license to purchase it, only x amount can be stockpiled without a valid reason or whatever) and banning the importation of ammo or better yet by informally leaning on manufacturers to align with your goals i.e. they should stop producing certain calibres, up the price, limit how much someone can purchase, develop new cucked types of ammo with degrading properties to stop stockpiling and so on. If you're slowly reducing stocks of civilian firearms in specific calibres through the use of grandfathering etc then naturally the ammo for them will become more expensive and eventually not worth producing at all. If reloading becomes a loophole to this then put heavy restrictions on who can purchase the equipment and the powder/primers define them as restricted explosives, that's already more or less an established concept under the NFA but it probably won't be necessary since that will be limited to a small number of enthusiasts anyway.

They've already established that being convicted of domestic abuse can have your guns removed, now you just need to expand it out to being accused as a precautionary measure already done with children then expand what categories of offence can result in this action. Women are more than 50% of the vote and are susceptible to this sort of thing. By the way this already applies if you have a restraining order against an 'intimate partner' and all it takes is a helpful incident or two to expand that to cover any restraining order.

Push all of the above with various 'tragedies', not just school shootings but imagine how useful something like another hurricane and the headline 'crazed veteran shoots rescue workers after refusing to temporarily hand over firearms'. Kebab attacks are also good. You can either manufacture them or wait for them to happen naturally and exploit them.


Why would they remove it when they can simply redefine it? The principle that certain classes of firearm are not protected is already established. Look at how Mexico gets around its constitutional requirement to allow gun ownership by having a single gun store in the entire nation.

You're an idiot if you think any modern government will make the mistake of giving people a single incident to oppose when they could simply play the long game. Each generation will tolerate the laws they grew up with and something a little bit more restrictive so you just have to keep on moving that window. Every restriction reduces the number of gun owners by a few % and the smaller that % gets the easier future restrictions become.

They banned rifles in the 1990s under Bill Clinton. It was repealed by SCOTUS a decade later and turns out most Americans didn't turn their rifles in anyway.

IF there is another gun ban, the same will likely happen.

LOL @ WHEN THEY FINALLY DO IT

NAAAAHHHHH…… THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ALL RIGHT. NOT ANYTIME SOON, BUT EVENTUALLY IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO HAPPEN… AND I AGREE WITH THE FELLOW WHO SAID THEY WILL DO IT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THEY OPERATE, AND MAKE PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA

(WHICH IT IS… IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA… I THINK ANYBODY WHO WANTS A GUN THAT BADLY SHOULD PUT IT IN THEIR MOUTH AND PULL THE TRIGGER, BECAUSE IF YOU BELIEVE IN SOMETHING SO STRONGLY THEN WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A REAL STATEMENT, BITCH?)

And it will take generations later (perhaps a hundred years) before the citizenry are mostly disarmed. Again, most Americans don't obey gun control laws, they just lay low with their guns and hope not to get caught. And most never end up arrested either. Meanwhile, it will be challenged via the courts!

Wrong……

The main agenda, stage 1 will be accomplished within 3 to 6 months….

After that comes the bumpy road part, but they specialize in bumpy roads… They're trained for bumpy roads, and they will kick your asses one side and down the other, and there's not a goddamn motherfuking thing that you'll be able to do about it… You have no idea how bumpy they are prepared to make the road for you, and failure is not an option for them….

'failing' is not what they do… They leave that for people like you, sitting hold up in your shity little shack with a rifle in your hands, clearing out your window, thinking you have booby traps set up in your front yard that will prevent them from disarming you….

They'll just hit your fucking Shaq with a drone strike and it will literally blow both of your arms off, both disarming you and dis-legging you….

AGAIN: PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL BE LABELED DOMESTIC TERRORISTS, AT WHICH POINT 99% OF AMERICAN CITIZENS WILL AGREE YOU EITHER NEED TO BE PUT IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE OR KILLED ON THE SPOT THEY DON'T CARE EITHER WAY

And yes of course I'm aware that there are speech to text typos, and I don't give a flying fuck right now

Whatever, you are a Qnon-style larper.

The US Army couldn't even win a war in Vietnam and that was a shitty third world country. You are talking about land that is massive compared to Vietnam, with a much more well armed and well prepared (and paranoid) population - WITH private transportation! With much more than just guns that can be utilized as weapons too! Do you understand how BIG the US is? Have you ever driven across the states like I have? Its fucking huge! We are well armed and well spread out. It'll take more than a few drones and a few nukes, I promise!

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Not if citizens don't voluntarily hand over their guns. You must factor the major key issues: #1 around 100,000,000 gun owners all over the country (and the USA is huge!), #2 limited supply of law enforcement and supplies (in some precincts LE is already low on ammo and has to ration their supplies because of budgets), #3 not everyone lives in the city, there are homes spread out EVERYWHERE and a decent amount of these homes have guns (many still unregistered today too), #4 press, politics and the court system too (there would be so much resistance and nightmare publicity over this you'd NEVER hear the end of it), #5 many in the armed forces and LE (including the feds) have families and friends of their own (many who own guns and/or know others who they care about who do too) so this could cause revolt among the ranks, #6 do not forget the militias and those who are heavily trained with guns, that CAN cause a LOT of problems for their enemies if they desired to.

We are heavily populated all around the country, there are over 500 million guns in civil possessions and the legal system would be absolutely overwhelmed (especially if it caused a civil war!)

…and even IF something this draconian passed the House, it would very unlikely pass the Senate, not to mention POTUS would have to sign it into law (the gun organizations would all oppose him passing this and most of his supporters too). And even IF this law gets passed (which is highly unlikely) then the courts would be forced to take up the issue…. all the way to SCOTUS (which republicans now hold a majority).

Right now, don't expect this to happen. Maybe if Trump loses 2020, it could be a possibility but it would still be challenged. The civil war would only kick off if the federal government ever decided to enforce it against the will of the people. THEN it would be on and a civil war won't last months, it would likely last a decade or more with extreme violent harsh consequences for ALL SIDES.

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Actually since you know NOTHING about war, commie, I'll correct you: it would kill me while causing national media outrage of the fact govt bombing its own citizenry. There. FIXED.

WRONG:

Because you would be labeled as a domestic terrorist, and nobody would consider you to be part of the citizenry. They would consider you to be a threat to the United States of America, and since you have no constitutional rights anymore after the Patriot act, they would samir you like a bug on a windshield and nobody would give a flying fuck. Nobody would even know you ever existed…..

Congratulations on making the most ignorant statement of the day

the national media are the ones behind the movement to get rid of guns in the first place, you stupid fucking idiot

I doubt any of you would disagree that Thomas Jefferson was a great historical American figure

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He's the one who, (knowing things were going to always be changing, and knowing they were just beginning something new that would continue to grow and change and metamorphosize as time went by) said the US Constitution should be rewritten every 19 years….

Completely rewritten every 19 years

He knew the right to bear arms referred to the revolutionary war specifically, and at that in 19 years, or 38 years, or 57 years, it would no longer apply….

And DON'T try to convince me that you know more than he did.

(This is the part where you get so frustrated you go play one of your effeminate little sissy boy multiplayer video games and shoot at a bunch of people, imagining they are me)

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THIS.


I wasn't referring to FAKE media. I was referring to REAL news that people DO pay attention too, and would find out about. Your right about one thing, the fake corporate media IS an enemy of the people.


He was wrong about that one thing, we still have the 2nd Amendment today and I'm NOT intimidated by Anti-American commie punks like yourself.

It's going to happen…….

………eventually……………


LOL

….and fuck your guns……

Not while I'm alive. I ain't giving my guns up.

AND FUCK YOUR LAWS.