Peter Waldo

Luther had a man crush on Hus over sola scriptura, and the Waldensians rejected going before a priest to receive forgiveness of sins.
In exactly what way were they Catholic?

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I can also post pictures of Mater Deum.

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The concept of mass, a clerical hierarchy, voluntary poverty and no sola fide.
They compromised their beliefs later on when the Reformation happened to join the kool kids klub and thus the modern-day Waldensians are nothing like the originals.

They rejected transubstantiation.

They rejected that any ecclesial body has the authority to call ministers, or give them authority to preach the gospel. They furthermore talked of the Pope as the whore of Babylon.

There is no contradiction with traditional Protestantism here.

No one doubts that they changed their beliefs over time, but the question is whether they were originally closer to Protestantism than Catholicism.
The answer is clearly that they were.

Now that's a strawman.
I said they still held mass, even the Lutherans did/do without transubstantiation.

Let me quote Wikipedia quickly:

"Early Waldensians belonged to one of three groups:
Sandaliati (those with sandals) received sacred orders and were to prove the heresiarchs wrong
Doctores instructed and trained missionaries
Novellani preached to the general population"

Voluntary poverty is completely against protestantism since it's a form of asceticism and one might even say works.

Also La nobla Leyczon:
O Brethren, give ear to a noble Lesson,
We ought always to watch and pray,
For we see this world nigh to a conclusion,
We ought to strive to do good works,

It was blatant compromising to get support from the big boys up in Zürich.
I doubt they still go out in old, simple clothes and preach voluntary poverty.

Wrong. Lutherans do Divine Service, not Mass.

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So then how does your point help your assertion that the Waldensian were closer to catholics than protestants.

Ok, but how then were they closer to Catholicism? Most Protestant Churches have clerical hierarchy under your definition.

Neither asceticism, or works are contrary to the protestant faith.

Neither asceticism, or works are contrary to the protestant faith.

So? That doesn't mean that they were not closer to Protestantism than Catholicism when they began.

Where's Waldo?
–Catholic authorities questioning the location of Peter Waldo

Because if you're a heavily persecuted group of Italian "heretics" and you want the persecution to stop so bad you're willing to compromise your beliefs, you're going to adopt the theology of a distant Swiss canton instead of the huge Europe-wide empire that is actually persecuting you

Woooow why were they trying to stop false teachers that Christ warned would come from ruining millions of souls. What big meanie heads :(

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Yup..Hus is (((Protestant)))

Hus the (((Protestant)))

See: Thomas A Fudge: JAN HUS Religious Reform and Social Revolution in Bohemia

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Waldenesian (((Protestants)))

WALDO ("Valdesius") CONFESSION OF FAITH : Catholic to the Core

"In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and of the Blessed and Ever-Virgin Mary. Be it noted by all the faithful that I, Valdesius, and all my brethren, standing before the Holy Gospels, do declare that we believe with all our hearts, having been grasped by faith, that we profess openly that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three Persons, one God….

"We firmly believe and explicitly declare that the incarnation of the Divinity did not take place in the Father and the Holy Spirit, but solely in the Son, so that he who was the divine Son of God the Father was also true man from his Mother.

"We believe one Church, Catholic, Holy, Apostolic and Immaculate, apart from which no one can be saved, and in the sacraments therein administered through the invisible and incomprehensible power of the Holy Spirit, sacraments which may be rightly administered by a sinful priest….

"We firmly believe in the judgment to come and in the fact that each man will receive reward or punishment according to what he has done in this flesh. We do not doubt the fact that alms, sacrifice, and other charitable acts are able to be of assistance to those who die.

"And since, according to the Apostle James, faith without works is dead, we have renounced this world and have distributed to the poor all that we possess, according to the will of God, and we have decided that we ourselves should be poor in such a way as not to be careful for the morrow, and to accept from no one gold, silver, or anything else, with the exception of raiment and daily food. We have set before ourselves the objective of fulfilling the Gospel counsels as precepts.

"We believe that anyone in this age who keeps to a proper life, giving alms and doing other good works from his own possessions and observing the precepts from the Lord, can be saved.

"We make this declaration in order that if anyone should come to you affirming that he is one of us, you may know for certain that he is not one of us if he does not profess this same faith."

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see The Waldensian Dissent: Persecution and Survival, C.1170-c.1570

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Wyclif the (((Protestant)))

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Wyclif

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Wyclif the (((Protestant))) who accepts Purgatory and prayers for the dead

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I've only learned about Hus recently, i don't even know the other two.
Interesting. Nonetheless, i believe they were good people and their actions were motivated only by their love for Christ and his teaching so they have my full respect.
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Yeah man secular masonic republics are best lmao XD

Hail democracy!

Yeah man secular masonic liberal republics are best lmao XD

Hail democracy!

Wycliffe on Sola Fide

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