If you find women attractive and enjoy how they look you're sinning and gonna go to hell

Is there any hope for straight, virile men?

This doesn't make the wandering eyes and lewd thoughts go away.

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Is the first line euphemism for something?

the desire to procreate is strong and natural. Specially with how some women are shaped by God.

Thats not what lust in your hearts mean.

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what's the difference?


lusting is the active desire to possess a woman somehow, a woman that isn't your wife, how is that not a sin?

in islam if you saw a women turn your eye away first look is forgiven second look is sin.

islam thinks pedophilia is fine so what the winnie the pooh do they know?

because that's what the Bible says
My personal explanation: God build the male body and knows it's responses to stimuli can be out of your control

If you are looking at a womans ass just to think dirty thoughts about her - that is lust.

If you glimpse at her ass and then realize what you are doing, you have the ability to look away so you do not engage in lustful ideas. Turn away from sin.
No one said it's easy at first.

But honestly I think you are a troll and you don't care anyways.
So you do you and you can faith judgement when time comes.

There's a difference from being attracted to women, and being a manwhore

This may be a dumb question but: is lusting after your wife sin? and having fantasies about her?

From my understanding it's okay if it's your wife. The real question though, in my mind at least, is the case of sodomy (non-vaginal intercourse) in marriage. I try my best to avoid it, which is easy because my wife isn't really into it anyways (non-vaginal intercourse I mean).

Yeah non-vaginal is out of the question, and I also read somewhere (From the YOUCAT by pope Benedict XVI, can't remember well) that oral sex is also not permitted since you are wasting semen… but what about oral sex to a woman?

I've always wrapped that in with Sodomy to be honest. That said though I am guilty of initiating that before, though I refrain from it now. The argument could be made that it helps prep the vagina for traditional intercourse better. I've had the same question about using my hand to accomplish the same thing.

Oral sex on wife is just fancy kissing/foreplay its not sex technically.

Feeling strong sexual attraction to your wife isn't the same as sinful lust.

You can look at it this way - lusting after a stranger is purely sexual and selfish - you have no connection with that person, you have no real desire to fulfil her needs or to cherish her, you don't want to procreate with her, you don't love that woman in the way that you love your wife. If you had sex with her, it would only be to gratify your own desires. You are viewing that woman as an object to be used in order to please yourself.

Now that doesn't mean that you cannot have sinful fantasies about your wife - you'll have to examine your own thoughts and feelings, if you have such fantasies then obviously I don't want to know the details, but you should be able to logically conclude whether or not they are sinful. Ask yourself: are my fantasies about my wife purely self-serving? Do they degrade my wife?

Gonna have to elaborate on that one

u gay?

Women can be beautiful without lust. Unlike what mass media wants you to believe.
I don't get a hard-on for sunsets but I like them, likewise should be with women. It's more difficult but when they are modestly dressed, it's not that much more.
Not finding women ugly is not lust. Not finding mankind ugly is not being a closet homosexual, it's not being misanthropic.

You're supposed to find women attractive my dude, you're just not supposed to lust after them because you're not married to them unless you are married to the woman in question, in which case it's alright so long as it isn't a total obsession

As for the lewd thoughts and wandering eyes, I find that prayer and mindfulness help. I have a beautiful gf whom I hope to marry one day and I really didn't have a reprieve from those kind of thoughts before I started praying more.

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Strong attraction for your wife, like that of a "Rutting Buck" is not sinful, from proverbs 5:


From an interesting post at Dalrock that touches on this very question: dalrock.wordpress.com/2018/11/20/does-romantic-love-sanctify-married-sex/

'enjoy' as in masturbation

you goofed

wut?

All lust is corruption.

godrules.net/articles/mat5.htm

How do we know that the common viewpoint on Matthew 5:27-28 is irreparably in error? Well, if the greek term "gunh" meant "any woman" and we take the greek meaning of the term "lust" (which means any desire in general), we discover the passage to be saying literally, "whosoever looks at a woman and desires her has committed adultery in her heart". Which means you literally can not desire any woman in general and would have to conclude that all men have sinned being in any relationship with a woman, even if they had the most innocent of "desires".

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There's also a distinction between 'looking at a woman you know (who belongs to another man) with lust' and
'lusting after the physical image of a woman'

The first has ripple effects, affecting the woman in question and her relationship…. while the 2nd is a personal temptation that doesn't hurt /effect anyone else.

lmao

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No. As someone mentioned before read Dalrock's post about it.

Within marriage, I don't think it's a sin.

Song of Solomon 4:16

I quit porn and masturbation a few months ago, I no longer find skankiness attractive at all, it's really off putting to see women dressed like hookers especially when I know they're doing it because they think that's what men want, and men think that's what they want. Pornography should be illegal.

Having high testosterone and being phenotypically "Chad" means you go to hell. I unironically belive this

In Catholic moral theology, the Wife is actually the only woman you may licitly desire. "Chastity", within the vocation of marriage is considered to restrict all pangs of the body's appetite purely to your wife.

Abstinence on the other hand, is a purposeful fast from sex, which is considered very holy, but also a bit dangerous if both spouses are not predisposed to it.


thank u fr. ripperger

You only go to Hell if you sin without repentance, "Chad" may very well be a good father and a good spouse, with a happy wife and a happy brood of children.

It is impossible to not sin, yes. That is the point. You cannot stop the sin. Even loving your neighbor as you love yourself is likely impossible for all us humans.

You must thus repent and ask for forgiveness. You must love God and attempt to live according to His law. Faith alone will save you.

This undermines the whole point of "free-will" and moral responsibility, thus judgment becomes senseless.
Calvinism/strong-determinism destroys all religions it touches

It isn't really determinism. Humans are simply far too imperfect.

Jesus makes this very clear; you're a sinner if you even think of sinning, if you even feel the desire to sin. You're a sinner if you fail to love your neighbor as you love yourself. And so on. Humans are probably not capable of freeing themselves from sin.

Being imperfect by choice and being compelled to sin arent the same.

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For real like what am I supposed to do walk around looking at the ground like a depressed retard?

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This.

hmmm 90% user really?

Yeah I can tell he's not Christian because the number isn't 99%.

That's pretty much it. Honestly if we can't refrain from looking at hot girls, how can we do the much more difficult things Christ expects of us?

Screw your wife. Literally