Been a Missouri-Synod Lutheran my whole life and i've always disliked the whole...

Gavin Baker
Gavin Baker

Been a Missouri-Synod Lutheran my whole life and i've always disliked the whole dog and pony show of a Sunday service and find it boring. Whether you are Prot are Catholic it always seems like for mos folks it's just a check in the box routine for the soul. This man speaks with vigour and authority. This man doesn't fear to displease the service and tone down gods word for the collection plate. This man preaches AGAINST SIN with the intention to make you feel unconfortable and recognize what is wicked. What is this called and where can I find more of it!?

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Michael Green
Michael Green

Pastor Anderson is a gem and I believe he would die for Jesus Christ, but most other IFB pastors (even the ones that are associated with Pastor Anderson) that I've tried listening to come across as stupid, fake, or creepy. Maybe the closest to being like Pastor Anderson is his friend Roger Jimenez, but he still falls way short.

Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

I liked him until I saw his video where he talks about homeless people and how they deserve to suffer because they're lazy.
Homeless people are like modern lepers, outcasts from society. I see now reason why we should not provide shelter and food for them.
Even lepers in biblical times were given communes and people brought them food.

Josiah James
Josiah James

Homelessness isn't a disease like leprosy. Most homeless people today are either severely mentally ill, in which case the government should be picking them up and bringing them to an institute, or they are homeless because they made and make terrible decisions and spend all their money on drugs and alcohol. Why should they be allowed to stink up the streets and make everyone else feel unsafe with their violent, drugged out behaviour?

Connor Clark
Connor Clark

Obligitory

Aaron Sullivan
Aaron Sullivan

The man is a self admitted bible-idolater. He literally worships the bible, on top of all the other horrid blasphemies he commits.

Just because his brand of "hard preaching" seems like it is correct, doesn't make him correct. Church isn't about your feels, it's about the truth. It's about the spiritual medicine you need to grow with God and be clean from sin. There is no "one time be saved and be always saved". For Pastor Anderson even admits you can't even be sure that other people are saved. FFS he even "ordained" a unitarian and he didn't know until several weeks after the fact. Yet he strolls around bragging about all the souls he "saved".

He is a demonic snake oil salesman. I'll pray for you OP. Do not fall for his lies.

Jackson Martinez
Jackson Martinez

He's clearly not saying that the Bible he's holding is literally God, he's saying that the word of God is the only way to learn God's true nature. His sermon is about people who worship figments of their imagination that they call Jesus and then try to tell you what Jesus would do based on what the figment of their imagination would do.

And by the way, what the hell does "Bible-idolater" even mean?

Angel Smith
Angel Smith

Op Here. I feel alot of his preaching is for the camera to intentionally meme normies and shock the MSM. The church laughs at a lot of his hot preaching. I think churches need need more of this fire and brimstone. Look at how complacent Christians have become and how indoctrinated they are to the Zionist and Liberal agendas in politics.

Jeremiah Perez
Jeremiah Perez

It may not be obvious to a casual fan, but if you know your Steven Anderson lore then you'll realize that this documentary contains a lot of what could charitably be called misrepresentation. It actually made me super suspicious of other Dimond Brother documentaries.

Cooper Evans
Cooper Evans

Is there a video on this with Pastor Anderson's rebuttal?

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Cooper Powell
Cooper Powell

What is this called and where can I find more of it!?
Death cult. Look up Jim Jones, the Manson family and Aum Shinrikyo

Cameron Peterson
Cameron Peterson

OP, you could've just said you wanted good public speakers that you can listen to.

Gabriel Parker
Gabriel Parker

IFB
Death cult
Found the pearl-clutching redditor.

Thomas Cruz
Thomas Cruz

This is good stuff user, very engaging and informative. I got him on my watch list now. Catholicism seems to ha e the best for Philosophy and Political aspects of Christianity but for the pure freanzied rebuke of sin and friendly reminder of eternal damnation Babtists like Steven Anderson inspire me.

Hunter Sanders
Hunter Sanders

There is no political aspect of Christianity.

Michael Nguyen
Michael Nguyen

Proverbs 14:31 “Whoever oppresses a poor man insults his Maker, but he who is generous to the needy honors him.
it says a lot about SA and his congregation when they were criticizing the homeless man and telling him to get a job instead of chipping in and helping him get to a shelter. Just very off putting to me and made me stop watching his videos.

Anthony Lee
Anthony Lee

Found the bible-idolater

Lincoln Robinson
Lincoln Robinson

False witness is a mortal sin. Prove it’s a death cult, go ahead.

Logan Adams
Logan Adams

. This man speaks with vigour and authority. This man doesn't fear to displease the service and tone down gods word for the collection plate. This man preaches AGAINST SIN with the intention to make you feel unconfortable and recognize what is wicked.
That's a terrible way to decide doctrine.

Half the reason the planet, business and politics is in this shit is because again and again we think loud, confident people that "say how it is" make for good experts on anything.

Nathan Sanders
Nathan Sanders

For starters I'm not that user who's claiming that it is a death cult, but Mr Pastor Anderson telling people to literally kill themselves instead of repenting to God is a good starting point to the claim that he runs a death cult.

Ryan Barnes
Ryan Barnes

meme pastor lifts up the bible
meme pastor declares "this is God"
<he didn't really mean that
bruh.mp4

what does Bible-idolater even mean?
It means you idolize the bible over the Church Jesus setup for you. Literally calling His decision a mistake. Like fools you think your personal interpretation of the bible trumps thousands of years of apostolic tradition. Like fools you lead others into hell. Like fools you ignore your Master's call and choose to listen to fools like Luther, Calvin, or Anderson.

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Cooper Cruz
Cooper Cruz

It's a small group based around a leader figure. They believe that they alone will go to heaven and that their leader can decide who will burn in hell or not (everyone else). Prey on the emotionally vulnerable for members, psychological abuse. Anderson himself is mentally unstable and it shows. His cult will not have a good ending.

Jayden Johnson
Jayden Johnson

Steven Anderson clearly doesn’t believe that a Bible is God. Stop this charade.

Apostolic tradition
The fools are the ones who teach for commandments the doctrines of men. The apostles were all Baptists. It’s the Catholic Church that broke from the church that Jesus founded. Show me where the apostles were crowing images of Mary and kissing the feet of statues of Jesus. It doesn’t exist because they didn’t do it.

William Stewart
William Stewart

How is not giving homeless people money to buy drugs “oppressing” them?

Isaac Green
Isaac Green

He only tells reprobates like homosexuals, who the Bible says have been given up by God, to kill themselves because they are predators who prey on innocent people and especially children. Once someone becomes a reprobate God gives them over to unnatural lusts and they will never accept the gospel, let alone repent, but they will continue to harm other people. If you disagree with this then please explain why the Bible lists homosexuality in the same breath as bestiality and why homosexuality is punished by death according to God’s commandments, just like murder. Remember that TV isn’t real. The homosexuals on TV aren’t real. Real homosexuals are like Brian Sims or Catholic priests. Child-molesters and animals.

Gabriel Jackson
Gabriel Jackson

Just because he isn't a liberal or a zionist doesn't make him good.

Tradition is necessary to interpret the Bible because the Bible is itself part of tradition. The church itself literally compiled the Bible. You treat the Bible like how moslems treat the Koran which is alien to Christianity.

Connor Johnson
Connor Johnson

If tradition is necessary to interpret the Bible then how come the Bible says we should “search the scriptures daily whether these things be true?” You’re saying that this would actually lead to error. The Bible is highly opposed to man-made traditions being used to decide anything about God. That’s what the Pharisees did they. They worshipped God according to their own traditions but they were hypocrites who didn’t do what God actually said in the scriptures.

the Bible itself is part of tradition
The Bible is the word of God written through the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, it isn’t a man-made tradition
the church itself literally compiled the Bible
As if anyone needs the Catholic Church to tell them which books are supposed to be in the Bible. Anyone filled with the Holy Spirit can tell what is God’s word and what is not.
The Catholic Church only compiled what true Christians already recognized as being the word of God.
Koran
It’s actually Catholics who act like muslims by inventing a bunch of extra-Biblical fanfiction to justify whatever they want to do, just like muslims invented their fanfiction, the Koran.

Oliver Carter
Oliver Carter

Steven Anderson clearly doesn’t believe that a Bible is God.
Stop twisting what Anderson said. He said "The Bible *IS* God." But that's stupid and heretical. The Bible isn't God, the Bible is the Bible.

Jack Wilson
Jack Wilson

Anyone filled with the Holy Spirit can tell what is God’s word and what is not.
Ok this is just ridiculous. The only reason you would dismiss a version of the bible is if it had more than 66 books, not because of what the Holy Spirit is telling you.

How can you say that the wisdom and writings from the men who were directly taught by Our Lord and was passed down, is fanfiction? The only reason you have a bible is because this group of people decided it to be so. You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater and the price is severe. Come home, brother.

Jonathan Sanders
Jonathan Sanders

purposefully acting dumb in order to interpret what someone says in the worst possible way
Not a good look.

I don’t think the idea of the Holy Spirit working actively inside believers is ridiculous at all.
How can you say that the wisdom and writings from the men who were directly taught by Our Lord and was passed down, is fanfiction
Because if they’re not writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit then they can be wrong just like anyone else. Also, most of these “Church Fathers” were not directly taught by Jesus.

Blake Hill
Blake Hill

If tradition is necessary to interpret the Bible then how come the Bible says we should “search the scriptures daily whether these things be true?”

This quote does not imply that the Bible is all we need for theology.

The Bible is highly opposed to man-made traditions being used to decide anything about God. That’s what the Pharisees did they. They worshipped God according to their own traditions but they were hypocrites who didn’t do what God actually said in the scriptures.

There is a difference between man made traditions and sacred Tradition, the Bible does speak about man made traditions and condemn them, but it is not hostile to sacred Tradition itself (of which it is the preeminent part). The church sometimes has to distinguish between man made traditions and sacred Tradition. Moreover, the church was founded by Jesus Christ and is guided by the Holy Spirit. It is not man made, and the Bible derives it's authority from the Church which was founded by God. Tradition is the life of the Holy Spirit within the Church.

“So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.” 2 Thessalonians 2:15

The Catholic Church only compiled what true Christians already recognized as being the word of God.

I'm not Catholic. The gospels were at one point passed on orally in the early church, THIS is sacred Tradition, which was later written down and became sacred scripture which was compiled by the church guided by the holy spirit.

Anyone filled with the Holy Spirit can tell what is God’s word and what is not.

Then why was there so much controversy amongst Christian about what is sacred scripture and what is not? It was the church (guided by the Holy Spirit) that discerned.

It’s actually Catholics who act like muslims by inventing a bunch of extra-Biblical fanfiction to justify whatever they want to do, just like muslims invented their fanfiction, the Koran.

You treat the Bible like it's a Koran, which to moslims is basically their Jesus. Your iconoclasm is very Islamic too, the first periods of iconoclasm in the Christian world can be traced to Islamic influence.

Joseph Howard
Joseph Howard

purposefully acting dumb in order to interpret what someone says in the worst possible way
Says the guy purposefully misquoting Anderson to make him look better.

Logan Reyes
Logan Reyes

that's not up to you to judge. If you run a church, and a homeless man is sleeping on your doorsteps at night and your church is all aware of it, maybe that's a sign?
Maybe that's a test?
Say it is a test, say God purposely placed that homeless man to be there, or it's an angel in disguise on a mission.
Say your pastor and entire congregation is being tested to see how they react to this ONE homeless person sleeping on your steps.
and then one day your pastor starts criticizing the homeless man and calling him lazy and to go away and get a job.
If this is a test, do you think your church passed?
Always be aware that you know nothing, and be unassuming.
If this was a test, the Faithful Word Baptist Church surely failed.

William Myers
William Myers

There is no "one time be saved and be always saved".

1 Corinthians 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Acts 13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

For Pastor Anderson even admits you can't even be sure that other people are saved.
Of course, but you can know YOU are, and God knows. The saved believer can have the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

FFS he even "ordained" a unitarian and he didn't know until several weeks after the fact.
But how does this make anything you say true? I have nothing to do with him and yet I have a big problem with the lies you're telling here. You are subverting the gospel.

Yet he strolls around bragging about all the souls he "saved".
What's the problem with saying this?

1 Corinthians 9:22
To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

He is a demonic snake oil salesman.
He's just one guy. But your clear, subversive attack on Scripture isn't going unanswered.

Justin Reyes
Justin Reyes

The church itself literally compiled the Bible.
God already decided what it would be in eternity past.
You treat the Bible like how moslems treat the Koran which is alien to Christianity.
Actually the koran is a manmade invention, as is any kind of "oral" traditions that are authored by men, that God didn't inspire and preserve in uncorrupted form as His word.

So really, all that stuff apart from the inspired word of God is on the same tier with the koran. Including all of whatever other stuff you referred to. And it puts all of you together with them and outside of Scripture.

This quote does not imply that the Bible is all we need for theology.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

the Bible derives it's authority from the Church which was founded by God.
Nope that's not true. God already knew what the Bible was going to say before he inspired it and it's because He is the author that gives it authority. God already brought his word together.
2 Thessalonians 2:15
This verse is not referring to a "secret" tradition that was not allowed to be written down. Such a concept is ridiculous.
Then why was there so much controversy amongst Christian about what is sacred scripture and what is not?
Because there are always unsaved people who are confused. Even today.
It was the church (guided by the Holy Spirit) that discerned.
Right, and God is the one who truly authored and compiled it. It is based on God's authority. It isn't based on manmade authority.
Your iconoclasm is very Islamic too, the first periods of iconoclasm in the Christian world can be traced to Islamic influence.
Non-argument. I have no idea why you think nobody thought idolatry was a sin until then.

Gabriel Ross
Gabriel Ross

God already decided what it would be in eternity past.

Yes, and the Church was his vessel on earth for compiling it.

2 Timothy 3:16-17

By scripture, it means the Old Testament not the New, which hadn't been compiled or even fully written then. There was no agreed upon idea of what was scripiture and what wasn't except the Torah, so does that make pre-Talmudic Judaism the correct religion? No because the OT can only be understood in light of the NT. Also, it says "all" scripture, not "only" scripture.

God already brought his word together.

Yes, and he did so on earth using the church that he founded. The Bible did not fall out of the sky.

This verse is not referring to a "secret" tradition that was not allowed to be written down.

It indicates a separation between what was taught by word of mouth and what was taught in the epistles.

Such a concept is ridiculous.

Not as ridiculous as a doctrine that is against doctrines. In reality you can't have "scripture alone" because you are taught about the scriptures by someone else (in this case pastor anderson). That's why protestantism has split into a gorrillion different parts, because every single persons interpretation of the Bible becomes a new religion. That's why the "me and my bible" type Christians can either be extreme liberals or extreme conservatives, because each individual interpretation of the Bible outside of the church becomes it's own (man made) tradition.

Because there are always unsaved people who are confused. Even today.

And without the church Christianity would have completely devolved into heresies like Gnosticism.

Right, and God is the one who truly authored and compiled it. It is based on God's authority. It isn't based on manmade authority.

And his vehicle was the church that he founded, thus the Bible can't be understood on it's own.

Non-argument. I have no idea why you think nobody thought idolatry was a sin until then.

But your idea of idolatry is kinda moslemy and wrong.

Kayden Perez
Kayden Perez

The government gives them all money for food and shelter. If they're still living on the street it's because they want to be there.

Jordan Torres
Jordan Torres

Even Hitler had a great deal of sympathy for the homeless as he was once a homeless man himself. Really says a lot about Anderson.

Brody Reed
Brody Reed

Baptists: “Asking Mary to pray for you and looking at a statue to help you focus mentally while you pray is literal idolatry”

Also Baptists: “Stop taking us out of context when we hold up a book and call it God.”

Jackson Campbell
Jackson Campbell

HOT PREACHING!
One of the few if not the only the speaks too the new generation of kids.
Flawed like all men but his knowledge, charisma and work ethic makes up for it.

Lincoln Thompson
Lincoln Thompson

I watched this once when I was laying down. I can't give any details but i remember thinking it was wrong smd dumb

Thomas Bailey
Thomas Bailey

He's not perfect by any means. Unfortunately when you're fundamental and ExTrEme you get a lot of heretics in the.midst. for example he had a guy named Garret Kirchway or something who was there for 9 years or something like that that was a oneness modalist. He pretended he wasn't for over 9 years or something but he's like super into it. Same with Tyler Baker and Dominique who he ordained the marriage for. Adam fannin was and is a snake. Dirty Donnie Romero…people are flawed of course but man…there's some wicked people out there

Honestly, Steven Anderson's life is like my trash tv show when I need some bibical junk food. Like my soap operas since professional.wrestling sucks nowadays.

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Adam Lewis
Adam Lewis

A single service from the Pastor is worth more than an entire year of all the televangelists' pony shows combined.

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Kevin Gonzalez
Kevin Gonzalez

Honestly, Steven Anderson's life is like my trash tv show
Same here lel. Did you hear the rumors about Solomon's engagement getting broken off?

Luke Evans
Luke Evans

Kek no
Solomon is his son right?
How did you hear about this? I just watch his YouTube videos since he airs nearly everything about his life on there.

What's his kids name that he trains to be a pastor sometimes?

Sam Gipps a fag btw lol

Matthew Cook
Matthew Cook

Did you hear the rumors about Solomon's engagement getting broken off?

That's unfortunate, I dislike Anderson and his doctrine, but I don't think his children deserve anything bad to happen to them.

Logan Rodriguez
Logan Rodriguez

They don't. Noone really does. Apparently after googling Steven Anderson's wife had a miscarriage at one point.

Gavin Martinez
Gavin Martinez

Yes, Solomon is his oldest son. Saer's parents apparently made a shocker indie film called "Shit-filled Cupcakes" patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2019/01/47911/ which some people initially thought was porn. Then people from freejinger started spamming links to it on Zsuzsanna's facebook page, and I think someone claiming to be Saer's aunt also later went on freejinger and posted about the engagement being off and Saer's parents having put their house up for sale. Zsuzsanna also took down the engagement photos she posted and her mothering moments video where she discussed the engagement.

I got so deep into Anderson-ology that I started watching Zsuzsanna's youtube videos and reading the posts about him on r/fundiesnark and similar places, that's where I heard about this.

Leo Jones
Leo Jones

Yeah I don't really know THAT much about the family too where I'm added on their Facebook or whatever…what's fundieshark? I saw it once when looking at Steven Anderson on Reddit.
You should keep in touch on here so I know whats going on lol…how do you even find out about this stuff lol?
Also, opinions of Tyler Baker?

Elijah Jones
Elijah Jones

By scripture, it means the Old Testament not the New, which hadn't been compiled or even fully written then.
Scripture means what it means. Don't act slippery with me and redefine words.

There was no agreed upon idea of what was scripiture and what wasn't except the Torah,
Well scripture is the word of God, and saved people will always be able to discern it thanks to the grace of God. See for instance John 8:47 where it says he that is of God heareth God's words, and John 10:4-5 where his sheep are those that hear his voice. Also 1 Thessalonians 2:13, 1 John 5:9-10, Hebrews 4:2, etc. Also pretty much every place where something is stated about those who accept HIS word and who gladly hear it, receive it, and believe it.

Like it says in 1 Corinthians 2:14, the natural man receiveth not the things of God, and in John 8:47 again those that are not of God hear them not.

So this is the defined idea of what Scripture is. It's the word of God. This is found from the witness of the New Testament. No popular opinion polls are required or asked for on this point.

Also, it says "all" scripture, not "only" scripture.
Yes so it refers to ALL of it. Furthermore, 2 Timothy 3:17, the verse you didn't mention, takes the form of a final clause which is also called a purposive clause. This is because it states what the purpose of the subject, namely "all scripture," is. The purpose is that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Now you tell me, if the purpose of God's word is to do something, will it do that thing?

because you are taught about the scriptures by someone else (in this case pastor anderson).
According to John 14:16-17, John 14:26, John 16:13-14, 1 Corinthians 2:13, 1 John 2:27, it's actually the Holy Spirit who personally teaches saved people about the scriptures.
That's why protestantism has split into a gorrillion different parts
Because they're a state church?
That's why the "me and my bible" type Christians can either be extreme liberals or extreme conservatives, because each individual interpretation of the Bible outside of the church becomes it's own (man made) tradition.
Only if they aren't saved and guided into all truth through Spirit-led study of the word of God.

And his vehicle was the church that he founded, thus the Bible can't be understood on it's own.
The church is the safeguard of the word of God, whereas the Holy Spirit is the one who gives all understanding of all things in it.

Like John 14:26 says
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

And in John 16:13-14
'Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.'

Leo Cook
Leo Cook

Scripture means what it means.

so is the Song of Solomon literal?*

*one WEIRD trick to disprove sola scriptura *CLICK HERE*

Joshua Sanchez
Joshua Sanchez

so is the Song of Solomon literal?*
Sure, the speakers thought they were like those things.

Also you totally missed the point of that. He said the word "scripture" means something else that he tried to define but I'm saying Scripture simply means Scripture. I said when 2 Timothy 3:16 says "all scripture" that is indeed referring to all scripture. So you kinda missed the point of my post and just quoted the first sentence without reading either the post I was responding to or the rest of my post.

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Jackson Jackson
Jackson Jackson

Sure, the speakers thought they were like those things.

no, but I admit to poking fun at you in error.

but I'm saying Scripture simply means Scripture. I said when 2 Timothy 3:16 says "all scripture" that is indeed referring to all scripture.

but Scripture was not defined nor canonized when St. Paul wrote it, you are merely begging the question…which is -

what is scripture? the deuterocanon is scripture, Martin Luther had no authority to remove it. since we've gone through this dog-and-pony show a million times we already know how this conversation will play out, anyhow.

Brayden Butler
Brayden Butler

you are merely begging the question…which is - what is scripture?
You missed the point of my post, I explained that. Specifically the part where I defined it using the New Testament.

You know, and I'm just saying this generally, but diving into a conversation without even knowing the content of what you just responded to generally makes you look lazy. Because I just answered this in the post that you had quoted.

no, but I admit to poking fun at you in error.
A lot of the Old and New Testament contains quotes of people who literally said certain things, but that doesn't guarantee every person who is quoted including people such as Satan, is accurate. Only that it's literally what they said.

A famous example of this is the witch in 1 Samuel 28:13. People sometimes quote this unreliable witness as proof of something whereas Samuel was in heaven not in the earth at the time. The witch was lying.

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