System76 Thelio computer is open source, Linux-powered, and made in the USA

By Brian Fagioli

I love when products are made in the USA. Don't get me wrong, I am not against things made in other countries. Hell, it is virtually impossible to live in America and not buy foreign goods. If you look at the tags on your clothes, you will almost never see "Made in the USA." But still, I take pride when a product is made here. For instance, so far in my life, I have only ever owned Ford vehicles. With that said, Ford is moving more and more of its labor to Mexico, but I digress.

Computers made in America are virtually non-existent, but a little company in Denver had a dream to do just that. System76 has long been looking to make a Linux-powered computer in the USA using open source ideology. A lofty goal, which many folks didn't think would ever be achieved. Well, against all odds, today, System76 proves the haters wrong as it finally unveils its much-anticipated Thelio desktop computer. And boy, oh boy, it is beautiful.

"Thelio Systems are designed to be easily expandable, making personalizing the computer a tantalizingly easy process. Slip in drives, add memory, and upgrade graphics cards at will. Additionally, the open hardware design that Thelio is built upon allows the user to easily learn how their computer works and make modifications using this information. Customization is simple to ensure that the computer encompasses people’s needs, as well as their personality," says System76.

The Linux-friendly company further says, "To maximize performance, Thelio is constructed to prevent throttling of all components inside. It achieves this using oversized fans that quietly pull in cool air, while ducts contain heated air and direct it out of the system. The computer’s daughterboard, Thelio Io, is a custom chassis controller that coordinates and optimizes the flow. Moving thermal control to the computer’s daughterboard enables far more granular performance optimization. Operating on open firmware, the OSHWA certified open hardware Thelio Io also provides controls for LED settings and power."

There are three models from which to choose, and all three can apparently be configured with with Intel or AMD processors. This is refreshing news, as historically, System76 machines were an Intel-only affair. AMD has been more friendly to the Linux community over recent years, so I am happy to see System76 giving that option too.

Thelio (Up to 32GB RAM, 24TB storage) treks through tasks with ease despite its compact footprint.
Thelio Major (Up to 128GB RAM, 46TB storage) boasts stellar performance, allowing maximum configurability with up to 4 GPUs to tackle the most astronomical projects.
Thelio Massive (Up to 768GB of ECC Memory, 86TB storage) is the epitome of performance among workstations, offering maximum throughput and accuracy for demanding computational workloads.

I know what you are thinking -- is the Thelio truly open source and made in the USA when it uses proprietary Intel and AMD processors and the components are made overseas? Fair point. System 76 quotes the Open Source Hardware Association which says, "Open source hardware is hardware whose design is made publicly available so that anyone can study, modify, distribute, make, and sell the design or hardware based on that design." So while Thelio's components aren't 100 percent open source, its design is.

And wow, what a design it is! Each chassis/case looks like a work of art. System76 is offering either walnut or mahogany wood finishes on one side of the computer, while the opposite matte-black aluminum side is etched with mountains -- very classy. All the corners are rounded too, adding to the beautiful look. Taking detail to a whole other level, the rear fan exhaust grill contains the planets of the solar system. Seriously, folks, the Thelio design is unreal.

If you are ready to join the open source hardware revolution, you can pre-order Thelio starting today here. Pricing starts at $1099.99, but that will obviously increase based on the specs you choose. Keep in mind, however, the computer will not ship until December. With that said, it would be wise to pre-order ASAP -- especially if it will be a Christmas gift.

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Oh my God I wasn't expecting it to be out so soon, it looks sexy as fuck.

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the "solar system at the time of the unix epoch" decoration is almost too geeky. cringe levels. Imagine pointing that out to someone.
still, I like it.
the maple version especially.
I also like their diagrams: drives/GPUs/power/ram. That's what you can mess with.
their prices though... even if I don't care about GPUs (and I don't, thankfully), the RAM and storage prices are painful.
I probably won't be given credit either.

I can't find anything about the bios used on the motherboard and their website is slim on detail. This seems rushed in order to compete with Raptor Computing and I feel like they are straight up lying to people.

ugh, user
I just finished complaining about System76's prices
Raptor's may finish me.

Maybe something here?
github.com/system76/thelio

Nope. There's firmware for their daughter board, but not the motherboard. They don't even list what motherboard they're using.

So they are full of shit, not only do these need nonfree firmware, but they do not even work without proprietary DRIVERS, at least not any better than the crappiest igpu.
Another reason to avoid it.

Looks like this is pretty much just the and its circuitry. Better than nothing I guess.

It's buried there, this is one of them gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#kf

Bonus: Their site embeds google scripts.

*just the case

then use Radeon, or integrated graphics.

Librem laptops vs System76 laptops?

No mention of what BIOS. Gonna go out on a limb and say not Core or Libreboot.

system76 did some ME stuff as well, but librem are definitely more hardcore about open hardware. system76 has proprietary GPUs, as noted. And although I can run OpenBSD on my Galago Pro, I didn't have wifi on it until post-install when it could download some proprietary firmware blobs.

System76 has better hardware, Purism is freer.

For the money I'd rather have a Talos.

I haven't priced it but I feel like I can do better ordering the constituent parts myself while getting a case with nice airflow as well. I may be wrong though.

Do they still have shit laptops? As my very first brand new laptop I bought a Lemur more than a few years ago (back when Win7 was still new) and it was so chintzy I returned it. For about 66% of the System76 price I went to the local Office Depot and got a better-spec no-nonsense Lenovo Gsomething and used it hard until its untimely death this year.

no change in their laptops

Throw it in the fucking trash. Fuck Intel, fuck AMD, fuck x86_64 CIA_Nigger/NSA buttplug garbage. They probably won't even change the HAP bit like Purism does. System76 needs to drown itself in semen for overcharging for those Taiwanese Clevo laptops for as long as they have.
Where's the super affordable Talos system when you need it? And whatever Talos model requires a binary blob for graphics shit can fucking die too.

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I'm sure Blackbird will still cost $1-$1.5k with a 4 core CPU. Not that anyone should run out and buy a Thelio.

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This. They're like the Apple of the Open Source world.