Spider-Man Villains Thread
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Spider-Man Villains Thread
Samuel Nguyen
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Jonathan Parker
Aaand we're done.
Jason Myers
>Doctor Octopus
You're obsolete now. Forgotten and unwanted.
Sebastian Edwards
Nolan Murphy
Incorrect insect
Camden Scott
the real question is where do you like the arms to attach? i like the back myself. upper and lower both give interesting looks for otto.
Benjamin Murphy
Brayden Foster
All the villain costumes in this game are great, save maybe Scorpion
Henry Harris
I'm more of a "sides" person.
Also Osborn is my favorite Spidey villain for a multitude of reasons.
Justin Gonzalez
Jose Gomez
Where are my Mysteriochads at??
Owen Foster
I love all the Spidey rogues, but I feel some of the lesser known ones deserve recognition. Characters such as White Rabbit, The Spot, Vermin, and so on hardly get enough spotlight
Cooper Butler
Not until they get big roles in cartoons or a movie. Has the game helped Mr. Negative much?
Easton Baker
is he even still alive in the comics?
Jayden Wright
The best spider-man villain
Leo Williams
BASED
Justin Lopez
Ian Nelson
Yeah. Cloak and Dagger are enemies of him now. Dark Kingdom was his last comic appearance I think?
Gabriel Reed
This is what Doc Ock actually looked like in the PSX Spiderman game, I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make
Samuel Adams
redesigns count?
Brody Long
Remember when Edge of Time tried to recreate Monster Ock with Atrocity?
Ryan Perez
>Also Osborn is my favorite Spidey villain for a multitude of reasons.
Osborn is a villain among villains. People can complain "ohhh but he's like Lex Luthor mixed with Joker anymore muh Hyde/Jeckel dynamic" all they want as if literally all super heroes/villains aren't rehashes of some other idea anyway, but nobody can deny that Stormin Norman is the big bad, the fact that he takes such pride in being a cunt is entertaining.
Matthew Kelly
Isaac Nelson
Xavier Turner
/thread
Aaron Howard
For me, it's him
Aiden Price
Osborn is too much like The Joker to me. Spider-Man is the joke cracker. An ideal arch nemesis would be his temperamental opposite.
Aiden Jenkins
So, Doc Ock?
Brody Davis
looks like shit
Jonathan Roberts
Back makes the most sense for spine and nervous system support
sides and front are cool all the same
Asher Turner
this game gave us the perfect Dr octopus.
the game is just great in everything
Joseph Evans
Osborn and Peter are opposites in different ways. The "Goblin persona" is vaguely Joker-like in some surface level ways in that he's a maniacal grinning lunatic with a bunch of themed gadgets, but their goals and character traits are very different and their dynamic to the hero is different. Where the Batman vs. Joker dynamic is very much about order vs. chaos, I see the Spidey vs. Goblin dynamic as more about moral responsibility vs. power lust.
Where Peter Parker is an idealistic "young person" who's main trait as Spidey is the need to do the morally right thing, Norman Osborn is an amoral business man who pretty much has always revolved around gaining more power at the expense of/with no regard for others. If you were to strip away the capeshit aspect and just view who Joker and Norman Osborn would be in real life as criminals, Joker would be some agenda driven terrorist trying to cause mass panic, while Osborn would be a sociopathic white collar criminal who does a lot of horrible shit but maintains a level of wealth and status.
Dock Ock is a different and just as good kind of villain in relation to Peter, in that Otto is almost a parallel to Peter in some ways, it's good nerd vs. bad nerd, it capitalizes on that aspect of Peter. Aside from that though, Otto doesn't really seem to have a clear goal outside of "I must conduct my experiments, and I've become mad so I'll use crime to do it" and also he has developed a hatred of Spidey for kicking his ass. I see Ock as having more in common with the other Spidey villains in that way like Electro and Vulture only way more smart and competent, which is why he works perfectly as the leader of the Sinister Six, a position I don't think Norman would fit very well.
Mason Cox
He's ten times the old coot Silvermane is.
Benjamin Howard
What's your ideal sinister six lineup
Eli Morris
The Original
Joseph Torres
Nah, fuck the front. Hated when they did that in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics.
Gavin Murphy
Who is the big guy next to GR?
Also GR himself, or just Wolverine could murder all those sinister hobos. Did they die?
Bentley Wright
Mary Jane with Symbiote, Black Cat, Sophia "Chat" Sanduval, Anna Maria Marconi with Doc Ock arms, Gwen Stacy spiderclone, Firestar.
Juan Cooper
Ultimate Six
Isaac Parker
Disagree entirely. I thought Scorpion's was the only one that wasn't completely garbage
Landon Sullivan
real talk though Monster Ock needs to reappear at some point.
hell I'd even take a remake of the 2000 Spider-Man game. The PC/Dreamcast version looked the best out of the versions but I'd still love a modern version of it. Such a fun game.
Kevin Cruz
Higher fidelity =/= looking better, based on the image you posted the PS1/N64 versions look the best
Jaxson Taylor
Polarizing tastes it would seem haha. I don't what it is about Gargan's PS4 look, but it looks cumbersome as hell. He's always squatting, like the weight of his own tail is hindering him. The mask could use some work too
Thomas Turner
nice haircut you fucking pussy
James Peterson
Hobgoblin is for kids that had to play with Megabloks instead of LEGO.
Christian Martinez
This comic is a notoriously bad portrayal of Venom during the dark age of Venom appearances, but I do love the contrast between Venom and the Sinister Six. It's something I would have liked in an earlier Venom story that wasn't butchering and devolving his story line and character.
John Wright
Caleb Roberts
Ethan Lopez
>no white rabbit
Excuse you?
Zachary Anderson
Doctor Octopus
Mysterio
Shocker
Rhino
Vulture
Sandman
Ryder Perry
Molten Man, Sand Man, Aqua Man, The Tornado, Electro, and Cyclone
Logan Bell
She's probably one of his best comic relief villains.
She'd make a great headlining villain for a kids' movie.
Hunter Miller
Helluva gallery
Anthony Brown
>based on the image you posted the PS1/N64 versions look the best
On what planet?
Chase James
ALWAYS
Angel Howard
Either back or side
Jonathan Ross
Only if it’s Macendale
Oliver Williams
Norman has his Thunderbolts. Or rather, he had them until Dark Reign ended. He maintains leadership not as a team player but as an overwhelming leader. He likes commanding, not cooperating, but he does it in such a way that is not nearly as domineering nor as neurotic as Doc Ock. Otto is pretty self-absorbed, but there's no doubt he's much more a team player than Osborn, who's so up his own ass and is honestly kinda nuts.
I'd say Osborn's motivation has always been his inherent need for more power. As an industrialist, he was ruthless, so it stands that in his Goblin persona, he would also be ruthless in crime in a bid to come out on top always. I don't quite understand how he lost bits of his personality like how he genuinely seemed to care about Harry after the first time he lost his memories, but maybe we can chalk that up to him straight up getting his mind more poisoned by the Formula. He has a seething hatred for Peter by the time he comes back and I think that's what transforms his character from "power hungry" to actively working against Peter himself, seeing him largely as a surrogate son since Harry had died by that time and he never seemed to love him anyway.
Even during Dark Reign he had nightmares about Spider-Man, so it can be surmised that he's still salty about 1) not being able to turn Spider-Man and b) having Spider-Man always beat him and having been the first obstacle on his way to more power. Previously undeterred, now Spider-Man is always in his way.
Hunter Harris
It's Hulk. I think maybe Grey Hulk at this time, but I think this was a reference to them being the replacement Fantastic Four at one point in time.
Thomas Morris
He was much more compelling before the Kingsley reveal.
Justin Powell
This guy's kinda scary, honestly. I forget why, but he eventually stopped talking or quipping back to Spider-Man. He's just unnerving.
Isaac Howard
gross
Jaxon Brooks
Doc...Ock, again?
Jose Rodriguez
>Mysterio
>Vulture
>Doc Oc
>Sandman
>Electro
>Hobgoblin
Jackson Brown
Thats Joe Fixit, the Grey Hulk. And yeah the Spidey - Fixit - Ghost Rider-Wolverine Fantastic Four team is one of the more powerful Marvel comics teams ever put together
Brody Gomez
Boomerang
Speed Demon
Beetle
Shocker
Overdrive
Gavin Scott
Based superior foes
Blake Jenkins
They really need the sixth guy, and it must be Rorkannu. It will be ideal punchline to "Our sixth can be everybody, even Dormammu".
Nathan Perry
>Even during Dark Reign he had nightmares about Spider-Man, so it can be surmised that he's still salty about 1) not being able to turn Spider-Man and b) having Spider-Man always beat him and having been the first obstacle on his way to more power. Previously undeterred, now Spider-Man is always in his way.
Yes, and in another comparison to the Batman/Joker dynamic and how it's similar but still totally different...think about what it would be like if both characters had their way with their respective heroes aside from killing them. For Joker, his prize would be to get Bruce to give up his iron fisted self control and fully break down into chaotic madness just like him, that is Jokers ultimate goal for society and Bruce himself, he smells the potential for insanity in Bruce and wants to pull it out. For Norman, if he had his way with Peter it would be for Peter to become an asset of his, to give up his sense of "right" and "wrong" and just embrace the mindset that if you have power it's your right to step on others and climb to the top and basically become his heir.
The funny thing about the Goblin/Joker comparisons is that really, Norman Osborn/Green Goblin is actually much more like an evil version of Batman/Bruce Wayne, and if Gobby and Joker ever existed in the same universe they would definitely be enemies, Norman doesn't want the world to be an erupting mess of chaos because then he wouldn't control anything, and Joker would be at direct odds with a man like Norman who's always trying to have complete control.
Jacob Wood
Joseph Campbell
>Ghost Rider-Wolverine Fantastic Four team is one of the more powerful Marvel comics teams ever put together
Other than the OG Defenders I would agree
Kevin Martin
There's potential in this direction, but it doesn't look good so far.
He looks like a Starbucks-drinking hipster, for starters. And those tentacles of his (of which there are too many) don't look very powerful
Also what the fuck is up with those sleeves
Jonathan Allen
Honestly, he looks like one russian religious fanatic politician. en.wikipedia.org
Andrew Morgan
Elijah Myers
You are a true Sony Shill, aren't you my friend?
Michael Bell
i hate boomerang
reddit meme character
Nathaniel Long
Needs more Osborn in this thread.
Gabriel Rodriguez
Not a Spider man villain I just like posting Absorbing man whenever I get the chance
Jace Ward
I mean god damn, dude was head of HAMMER. Still no idea what the acronym is. I know it was part of the joke but fuck you, I wanted an acronym.
Samuel Richardson
I feel like for newfags this opinion might be blasphemous, but I will submit that Bendis at the very least had a handle on Ultimate Osborn. And its alwso worth mentioning that Ultimate Norms is significantly different from his 616 iteration. I know this may not seem like a big feat but knowing Bendis this is monumental. It would too fucking easy to have them both be psychotic madmen but Bendis went a step further with both.
Samuel Flores
William Perez
I miss this Benidis. Hope he brings this "game" to Superman.
Landon Thompson
norman sucks
Caleb Jackson
Nonsense.
Tyler Moore
Matthew Rivera
Landon Evans
Even according to comic book logic, he's probably fine.
Blake Watson
He's fine....
Owen Smith
All Bendis did was give osborne his post revival personality at the beginning, I'll take murder hobo billionaire over discount hulk anyday
Elijah Harris
I'm glad Spencer's actually got big things planned for my boy Chameleon.
Jeremiah Smith
ZERO faith. Seriously none. Spencer has yet to deliver on ANYTHING.
Asher Richardson
he brought MJ back made felica normal again and put Kraven back into the grave, he's doing alright
Logan Barnes
vulture (2002 spider-man 1 video game design)
scorpion (1994 design)
mysterio (1994 design)
rhino (spectacular show design)
electro (ultimate spider-man comic, not blue design)
doc ock (2002 movie design)
Jace Howard
I;m okay with all of these choices. I'm going to throw in USM because I feel like he gets points on both a design front as well as a character front (having a much closer tie to Peter). He's like the UM Symbiote-Hulk. He was a glorious character.
Isaiah Clark
I've read that Doc Ock is basically what Peter would have been if he never had an Uncle Ben.
Doc Ock, Mysterio, Electro, Rhino, Vulture, Sandman
Here's a question: Doc Ock and Green Goblin are Spider-Man's biggest enemies and I don't think the mouse is going to hold off for much longer just because Sony got there first. So how are they going to appear in the MCU, bros?
Dominic Robinson
>I've read that Doc Ock is basically what Peter would have been if he never had an Uncle Ben.
Interesting theory, but I feel like it's very jarring to make Ben the only thing standing in the way between Peter and full-blown supervillainy.
Owen Allen
It's because both of them have had very similar childhoods, being extreme science nerds who were frequently bullied throughout life. Where Peter had a loving aunt and uncle he could turn to when he needed, Otto had an abusive father and overbearing mother.
The events that led Peter to really becoming Spider-Man was when he shirked his responsibilities and that led to his uncle's death.
The events that led Otto to becoming Doctor Octopus was his mother forcing him to call of marrying Mary Alice only for him to discover that she was dating someone, and upon getting into a heated argument, she ended up dying of a heart attack.
Ultimately both of them had their upbringings confirmed. Peter learned what Ben meant by great power meaning great responsibility and took that to heart, even at the detriment of his personal life. Otto learned that others were cruel, hypocritical, and not worth his time and sure enough, his actions as a villain shown that.
Leo Cook
It's actually interesting when you go back and read those Ditko-Lee issues, early on Peter basically acts like a potential school shooter. Over time he grows up into the Spidey we all know and love, but when he is a bullied kid in high school he is constantly angry, threatening, and swearing revenge. He very easily could have ended up a supervillain. But "with great power comes great responsibility" and over time he came to understand what that meant.
Brody Adams
I feel the opposite. Norman being as much of a shit-talker as Peter sets him apart from the other villains
Aiden Phillips
Oh hey look, it's Jared Harris
Gabriel Myers
Why did they decide to make Adam Savage Doc Ock?
Hudson Green
Have Osborn and Doc Ock ever teamed up?
Jason Hall
>early on Peter basically acts like a potential school shooter
you don't say
Jose Peterson
I know in pic related they did from time to time, I'm pretty sure
Jayden Martin
They did, until Osborne betrayed Ock. This panel is from it.
Christopher Green
Do you like reformed villains? Skipping octopus, whom else should get a shot at reforming?
Adam Perez
Jaxon Kelly
I don't get why people are so keen on Gage and Slott's writing when it's packaged as a video game. It's just as boring as it was for damn near a decade.
Game itself is fun for a few hours but gets old fast.
Landon Ramirez
He doesn't need a gun.
Asher Stewart
While Venom May no longer be a villain, I gotta say the way he and most of the other baddies were handled during Reign was fantastic. My chest legit hurt reading the conclusion to Sandman’s story in that
Caleb Diaz
I like the original Spectacular one.
Brayden Thomas
Not him, but seriously you got shit taste. The PS1/N64 looks better because it has less detail. The colors look brighter and read easier. It's the same reason Metal Gear Solid looked better than Tomb Raider and FFVII
Grayson Hall
Brayden Thompson
>peter getting btfo'd by the symbiote
what issue was this?
Jaxson Ward
I always enjoyed Sandman as an Avenger
Bentley Baker
Rhino...again.
Phil Urich, but bring him back from the dead first. Phil was wasted with Slott.
Eli White
That was the last issue of Spider-Man: Reign, the comic with the radioactive spider-sperm, it’s actually a good quick read
Ayden Hill
Spider-Man: Reign #4 i think
Brayden Ward
>It's because both of them have had very similar childhoods, being extreme science nerds who were frequently bullied throughout life. Where Peter had a loving aunt and uncle he could turn to when he needed, Otto had an abusive father and overbearing mother.
This feels like a very...generic comparison? I mean, with that sort of framing one could argue that Mysterio is what Peter would be without Uncle Ben. Beck had an abusive father and no mother at all, and the only hobby he had was treated as completely worthless by his alcoholic father.
Parker Bennett
Sure but Peter and Dock Ock are both outcast science nerds who once hated the world around them, but took different paths after both becoming "supers" themed on eight limbed animals
Landon Clark
Based user
Noah Collins
You've got shit taste if the less-detailed version looks better.
I'm not saying there isn't necessarily a charm to the lower-fidelity versions, but the higher-fidelity ones just look so much better, especially texture-wise.
Oliver Brooks
Just read Superior Foes, it's helped me apreciate Shocker a bit more. Has he done anything since the series finished?
Also, do you think disney will do anything more with the character? Homecoming wasted two good actors IMO.
Aaron Wood
I think The Spot could work as an anti-hero sort of character.
Liam Diaz
Who would be in your Sinister Six? Mine would consist of: Swarm, Abominaiton Man, The Spot, Lady Stilt Man, Paperdoll, and Black Tarantula. Rate team.
Angel Long
1/10, trying too hard
Eli Davis
don't listen to this team would be dope as fuck in a janky kinda way
Brandon Bell
I'd go for a proper attempt at "redeeming" some of the Sinister Six in a heroic/antihero team led by Otto in his Superior Octopus outfit.
>Superior Octopus
>Shocker
>Sandman
>Mysterio
>Rhino
>Dr. Connors/Lizard
Asher Young
Now this would make an interesting book. I love the idea of a bunch of reformed villains coming together and the general public think they are doing some evil plot when they are in reality trying to help them.
Xavier Johnson
The way Daredevil sees him is pretty creepy.
Putting that aside: Spot's portals, do they slice when they close or do they get stuck on obstacles?
Brandon Butler
This specific model, sure, but Spider-Man and the rest look worse despite the increased detail
John Cox
Gosh darnit, forgot pic
Ryan Rogers
Everyone would probably look pretty scary/creepy this way.
Ryan Hernandez
bump
Noah Campbell
Ryder Moore
Jose Baker
What comic is this from?
Oliver Gray
Do you think Kindred will earn a place in Spidey villain history?
Carter Gonzalez
Why is he so fucking RIPPED
Evan Johnson
I just really like the word Hydro
Aaron Moore
>The Non-Mutant Super Hero!
Did that really need clarification or was mutant prejudice real at the time?
Tyler Perry
I guess
Luke Allen
Depends on (a) who it is and (b) how the reveal plays out.
Justin Gray
No.
Landon Evans
This would've been the end of the 80s/beginning of the 90s when the X-Men were basically becoming Marvel's top dog,
Luke Morgan
So who's Spidey's greatest foe? I've narrowed it to three but your list may differ from mine.
>Osborn
>Ock
>Venom
I was gonna go with Peter as one of his main nemeses but that's too fucking played out and honestly I'm tired of it. Ock is the villain that completely "beat him", but Osborn is the one with a psychotic fixation completely unrivavled. Fucking with Peter isn't a hobby, it's a day job. And then you have Venom, his superior on every conceivable physical level and doesn't trigger his spider-sense. Assuming we're going with STAS version of Venom, he's single minded in his obsession and that goes for Eddie and the symbiote.
While I can't decide on just one, I agree that all of these villains ignite a level of fear in Peter that he doesn't get with all of his foes. Rhino is actually another villain that makes Spidey's shit list but I don't have much to say about the character beyond Amazing Spider-Man #617 & 625.
Christopher Green
Every Goblin showdown has been memorable. Spider-Man has beaten the Sinister Six by himself on a number of occasions (albeit with great difficulty), and he still has a hard time even one on one with Osborn. He has to work for every single victory.
Andrew Brown
I say Osborn, personally. Venom can't be listed as a villain anymore and Doc Ock's greatest crime is boning Aunt May.
Zachary Cook
Those three are his greatest foes. Goblin is his arch foe, Ock is his second greatest, Venom is his late 80/90s complicated villain, either way, they are all the greatest threats to his life
Evan Murphy
I think I'm going to agree. Osborn is just too much of a glorious bastard to sit at the number two spot. Ock can gloat all he wants but at the end of the day, he's a dicount Spider-Man and couldn't stack up to Norms.
I really feel like I might going against the grain on this one, but I'm going to argue that Slott has a more solid handle on the Green Goblin than Bendis ever did (or even Ellis). Bendis wrote a great Osborn, but he's only half of the equation. Ellis only had him go full Goblin for like an issue and while it was enjoyable, it felt like a highly highly exaggerated and manic verison (either due to the mental manipulation or Moonstone swapping out his bipolar meds with placebos). Slott on the other hand has been put in situations where he had to portray Norman Osborn "Titan of Industry" and Norman Osborn "Goblin working to weaponize cancer". Slott isn't afraid to fluctuate between both extremes, frequently having Norman just strut his stuff in his goblin suit. I think these are all the times Osborn's shown up in throughout Slott's tenure on the character.
>New Ways to Die - Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 1
>Goblin Nation - Superior SPider-Man
>The Osborn Identity - Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 3
>Red Goblin - Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 3
Interestingly Slott doesn't use Osborn at all during his first collection of issues and I can't tell if it's because he just didn't want to use him or was limited as Bendis was later going to bring him back in Avengers Vol. 4/New Avengers Vol. 2.
I fucking lose it every time i read the mug.
Christian Wilson
When it comes to the Sinister Six, do you think having a "big name" villain like Ock or Norms being a part of it takes it to far? I also think the Sinister Six was developed because each villain couldn't do squat on their own and decided to team up to have a chance. Ideal Six would be:
>Hydro Man (Morrie Bench).
>Scorpion (Mac Gargan)
>Doc Ock (Livia Octavius)
>Shocker (Hermann Schultz)
>Mysterio
>Vulture
I purposely left off Rhino, Electro, and Sandman because of of those people could single handedly face Spidey and have a decent shot of winning. Hydro man is incredibly powerful but I don't think has the creativity or combat experience Marko has. Scorpion was an easy choice as a physical foil but he has yet to develop his hand to hand skills to the point where that advantage means much. I think acid tail would be best. Doc Ock seems like a staple but Otto's moved up in the world so Liv would be a great substitute. Shocker is always a classic villain so of course he'd be a great addition. Also another techie is great and he could pair with Liv. Mysterio is just a fun all around character so why the fuck not. Lastly I went with Vulture. Yes he's an old man, but his flying suit has elevated to the point where he doesn't even need wings to get around and do some serious damage. Also I want to thank the most recent Spider-Man movies for giving us Vulture and Mysterio. Hate the movies, love the villains.
I really want to reiterate that Mysterio has only gotten cooler in my eyes. I knew his illusion tech was powerful, but seeing them go all out in Far From Home shows just how much of a threat he can be. I know drones are basic ass enemies, but having them outfitted to their degree and coupled with illusion tech makes them fucking terrifying. If I could change anything I just want more of the fishbowl head.
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Hudson Martin
So Livia is jumping dimensions to fight a completely different Spider-Man for fun?
Jace Russell
I see it as she was punted into another universe via that truck hitting her at the end of Spider-Verse, so if anything she's working with these criminals to gather enough capital to build another collider and get home. Fighting another Pete is just icing on the cake.
Jeremiah Jenkins
Osborn is a goddamn monster and I love seeing him in every outing I can.
>This entire sequence is devastating on so many levels.
Dominic Flores
How did you feel about Norman becoming an Avengers villain for a few years?
Bentley Nguyen
I know Slott may not have intended it, but he wrote one of the most tragic sequences in Peter's history. In four pages we see Peter trying his damndess to still be "Spidey" when he could literally rip Big-Willie in half.
Liam Green
This entire outing is one of the most vulnerable Peter's I've ever witnessed. He has just suffered from the events of Clone Conspiracy which I rate a 10 on the horrifying scale because not only was "he" the villain via Ben, but he had to experience everyone dying AGAIN. I mean fuckin hell. Give the guy a break.
I absolutely loved it. I know I just said I think Slott wrote the best combined package of Osborns, Ellis delivered what I can only describe as an inspired take on the character that incorporates all the depravity of prior versions and hides it behind medications and a powerful position. Bendis knew there was potential here, and decided to scoop up Osborn which I was all the more stoked for. Bendis may be associated with singular voice dialog, but when he sinks his teeth into a character he really gets at the core of what makes them. I'd argue Ellis wrote a more "fun" Osborn where Bendis gave us a more naunced take. Seeing him try to do good was a testament that he could have been more. And the final page in Dark Avengers was some of Bendis' strongest writing. The Osborn speech and why he's necessary was honest, and all the more hopeless with how it ends. I bought the Dark Avengers Omnibus because I loved this take. Having Bendis bring him back in the followup Avengers Series feels undercooked as his HAMMER plot is actually separate from his revitalized Dark Avengers plot.
David King
And after all of that goddamn heartbreak and soul shattering fallout, seeing all that rage and power dissipate with a single word is frightening. Peter needs an outlet. He needs a target. He needs to be pointed in a direction and everyone stay the fuck back for their own safety.
Dominic Roberts
How can you not love this guy?
Andrew Cox
Spider-Man looks much better too. He even has modeled fingers.
Same with Daredevil and even JJJ to an extent.
Gabriel Jones
Ryder Murphy
Jonathan Jones
Nurse Octopus agrees.
Elijah Roberts
I want to see Osborn in the MCU more than anything because they are more than likely going to adapt his Thunderbolts or Dark Avengers run. I'm stoked for either.
Was Osborn right in this? Did he really make a more effective Avengers? I mean let's run it down.
>Wolverine - Gorgon
I'll argue as a more effective fighter, maybe not as ruthless.
>Scarlet Witch - June Covington
I'll admit, Wanda probably wins in this category on power alone, but Doxie is terrifying on every conceivable level and she strikes me as the type to elevate science to "magic" levels. Her mind control abilities are scary in and of themselves.
>Hulk - Skaar
Rage motivated by daddy issues. 10/10.
>Spider-Man - Ai Apaec
He has all the powers of Spider-Man and so much more. He was effectively immortal as he's lived for centuries. One on one, he's ruin Peter. Unfortunately he got crushed but his abilities still stand.
>Ms. Marvel - Superia
Not only does she have the powers of Ms. Marvel, but she's also one of the worlds leading scientists. She's the whole fucking package.
>Hawkeye - Barney Barton
I know he's full of himself, but there may be some truth to his statement. At the very least he's comparable to Clint so we can call it. He doesn't seem like one to boast/
I NEED more of this. Thank god for Parker's Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers title.
Jackson Morales
Wha... what is it doing?
Alexander Stewart
I just bought the issues for the "A Death in the Family Arc". This thread made me realize I appreciate that Osborn story more than I anticipated. You don't get realer than this fucking page. I always though you needed to monologue and talk on and on and on to be a good writer, and I definitely learned from that. But Bendis fucking missed the lesson on restrained compressed writing. Osborn only speaks when necessary and only says the maximum allotted words (he gets more free spirited in Goblin outfit). In summation Jenkins killed it.
Henry Perez
Kind of weird that shocker is potrayed as an idiot in a lot of stories, when he canonicaly built his own equipment.
Nolan Perry
I feel like that's kinda the point, nigga built a suit that's strong enough to take on the likes of spider-man but his highest aspirations is to rob banks
Andrew Long
This is fucking glorious. This is looney toons level of shenanigans and Shocker isn't cracking a goddamn smile, AMAZING!
Brandon Russell
There is already a Lady Octopus, though her name is not Olivia Octavius. The character is functionally similar though and could work exactly the same way.
Kevin Campbell
Forgot the pic
Oliver Morris
>and put Kraven back into the grave
He killed off Kraven again just to replace him with a clone. That was pretty pointless, honestly.
Daniel Gomez
She looked like that in Hunted, but then a few issues later they completely redesigned her to look like Liv, even in a flashback sequence.
Austin White
It's just missing the demo that reskinned the game as a Sam Raimi movie promo in cereal boxes.
Samuel Jones
The point was to keep Kravens last hunt canon with whatever impact it had while giving writers a kraven to play with, he used to have two sons that fit that role but slott killed them when he brought the OG kraven back for no reason
Easton Perry
I loved him in this wish he was allowed to be this competent and creepy more often.
Jace Brooks
James Ross
The OG 6 but with Hobgoblin/Scorpion/Rhino instead of Kraven.
Isaiah Hughes
Xavier Thompson
Justin Scott
Give the spot his own series
William Ramirez
I don't like it, it takes the idea of "mechanical octopus man" too literally and it looks like hes in a baby carrier or is a midget or something. Would maybe work for some other kind of character but definitely not for Otto.